Did This Bird Really Re-Evolve?

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Bizarre Beasts

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@BizarreBeasts
@BizarreBeasts 6 ай бұрын
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@HassanMohamed-rm1cb
@HassanMohamed-rm1cb 6 ай бұрын
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@graffic13
@graffic13 6 ай бұрын
Wish we'd see aldabra rails cohabed with aldabra tortoises in zoo's they're so cute
@huldu
@huldu 6 ай бұрын
I have a serious question for people using a thing like this, is it because you can't sleep due to lights/sounds etc? I used to live a somewhat rough life early on so I got used to sleeping with sounds and lights(along with sun) without any issues. I always thought this was normal until I heard that a lot of people are struggling which came as a surprise to me. Makes me wonder how long it took to adapt to in the first place. To be completely honest I do need some sort of sound going on to be able to sleep so that's the downside I have a hard time sleeping in complete silence but that isn't an issue when you're living in a big city.
@BriJBo
@BriJBo 6 ай бұрын
I already have the Manta Sleep Mask Pro from a different sponsored video and use it every day at work to take naps on my 15-minute breaks. I work in a warehouse, but finding a spot to snooze in is pretty simple. Just need three tall totes: 1 as a seat and the other 2 stacked very strategically like a table. The mask is cool cause the eye cups are modular and can be pulled off and reoriented on the mask itself due to velcro. The cups also don't put pressure on your actual eyeballs like generic sleep masks do since they're cup shaped rather than flat.
@michaelweisang
@michaelweisang 6 ай бұрын
Cant seems to use the code, is it exclusively for US?
@tylerknowsanimals
@tylerknowsanimals 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for not falling down the aforementioned media rabbit hole of “this bird evolved twice” and instead establishing the probable distinction between the two iterations. And regardless, this was a very interesting video, as per usual!
@omnirath
@omnirath 6 ай бұрын
Did you expect otherwise from this channel ?
@sleepyninjarin7971
@sleepyninjarin7971 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I ignored all media coverage of this until I saw this video and.... it ended up so interesting
@charliemcconlough
@charliemcconlough 6 ай бұрын
It didn’t even talk about the bird…
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 6 ай бұрын
I mean anyone with 2 braincells know the distinction bro.
@liamevans7661
@liamevans7661 6 ай бұрын
@@carlosandleonno, science needs taught, humans don’t inherently know anything
@windsorsa
@windsorsa 6 ай бұрын
Rail vs Crab looks like a real life Pokémon battle
@jamesoshea580
@jamesoshea580 6 ай бұрын
"Rail uses peck. It is not very effective"
@y0nd3r
@y0nd3r 6 ай бұрын
Or maybe Another Crabs Treasure?
@NinaDmytraczenko
@NinaDmytraczenko 6 ай бұрын
It really looks like a turn based fight 😂😂
@FischerNilsA
@FischerNilsA 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesoshea580 "Crab waves claw - misses."
@godshowman1878
@godshowman1878 6 ай бұрын
​@@FischerNilsArail uses bird dance and it's attack increases
@nothereanymore3941
@nothereanymore3941 6 ай бұрын
The clip where the rail starts pecking the tortoise and the tortoise looks like it’s going “hey cmon man”
@skyem5250
@skyem5250 6 ай бұрын
so sad that all the rails went extinct in the 1800s when they were killed to make railroads
@Lolibeth
@Lolibeth 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact! Their use in railroads led to breeding programs and an explosion in their populations, but it was ultimately the coming of cars and paved roads that led to their decline
@c.jishnu378
@c.jishnu378 6 ай бұрын
​@@Lolibeth Facts.
@luurankoiset9120
@luurankoiset9120 6 ай бұрын
Boo - but also, bravo!
@atgosh
@atgosh 6 ай бұрын
When my sustainability analyst sister says taking the train is more environmentally friendly than driving my car. No, Mikaela, train is murder!
@nickdarr7328
@nickdarr7328 6 ай бұрын
Yes but it was necessary. It made the extinction of Indians, scientific name: native Americans, much easier.
@Beanedict_C
@Beanedict_C 6 ай бұрын
The species didn’t re-evolve, the part just got recast
@HogBurger
@HogBurger 6 ай бұрын
clever…
@seanrowshandel1680
@seanrowshandel1680 6 ай бұрын
In the future, we will either create mutually beneficial relationships with all of these people and animals whom we haven't yet met (such as these rails) which will be worth defending, or we will be guilty of being "Against" these harmonious relationships. Some things never become less modern. People who love their job and wouldn't mind being left alone have freedom and are subject to their own intrapersonal "judgement" regarding any mistakes which they've made while "under oath". This is what guides people toward success. Some of us have no identity, nor oath. It seems like the oath is like a fountain from which identity is granted. So our focus on safety is superfluous, but success/progress are NOT. What if we were trying to MORE than simply get things "back to normal"? Do you want things to be Better Than Normal for the first time? What's the Oath for that? What's the identity of people who want things to be Better than normal? Do they not have identities yet? We don't yet have a "Steve Irwin-ist" era of journalism where "history is defined by the victor".
@zathtanks
@zathtanks 6 ай бұрын
@@seanrowshandel1680ark survival evolved story is that humans and everything on earth is Mosul extinct (except humans on genesis ships in stasis) and we leftbhind technology able to recreate any life that ever lived and even alter its code
@zathtanks
@zathtanks 6 ай бұрын
Mostly not Mosul
@bmolitor615
@bmolitor615 6 ай бұрын
hey mark that spoiler alert :)
@graemebloodworth8991
@graemebloodworth8991 6 ай бұрын
i would love to get a plants series like this. Theres SO many weird plants. Sandbox trees and exploding cucumbers!
@graemebloodworth8991
@graemebloodworth8991 6 ай бұрын
Also i would love to consult if something were to come of that...
@suzettehenderson9278
@suzettehenderson9278 6 ай бұрын
Check out floralogic
@skivvia
@skivvia 6 ай бұрын
Yes! and the Gympie Gympie from Australia
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 6 ай бұрын
That would be pretty wonderful. All the stinky plants, exploding plants, plants that just ALWAYS choose violence, plants that will both sting you AND can be used to soothe the sting they just made, plants that give you sun sensitivity for extended periods of time...
@Adi-8529
@Adi-8529 6 ай бұрын
That would be awesome!!
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 6 ай бұрын
I was just interested until they showed the clip with the chicks OMIGOSH, THE ADORABLE RAIL BABIES! They are so FLUFFY!!!!!❤❤❤
@MaoRatto
@MaoRatto 6 ай бұрын
It's the do-do bird 2.0!
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 6 ай бұрын
Tbf most birds chicks are fluffy. :D
@MatthewTheWanderer
@MatthewTheWanderer 6 ай бұрын
I also found it interesting how the babies are completely black but the adults are different colors.
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 6 ай бұрын
Oh, I am an equal opportunity lover of fluffy chicklets 😂 we are birb folks over here. I agree about the color difference, all black growing into more colorful is somewhat unusual.
@monroerobbins7551
@monroerobbins7551 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, they’re little babies!! They’re friend shaped for sure
@T0nyTheArtist
@T0nyTheArtist 6 ай бұрын
So we didn't get a re-release. We got a remake.
@RadeticDaniel
@RadeticDaniel 6 ай бұрын
Perfect description 😂
@radagastwiz
@radagastwiz 6 ай бұрын
My favorite name for a flightless rail is an Atlantic species, the Inaccessible Island Rail. Named for its home island, which is not so much hard to get to as hard to set foot on.
@messyhair42
@messyhair42 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for reminding me about the Reunion swamp hen, I'd forgotten about it since Brady last mentioned it
@leothebugnerd
@leothebugnerd 6 ай бұрын
"Did This Bird Really Evolve Twice?" crabs: amateurs
@primevalrex7266
@primevalrex7266 6 ай бұрын
This is why the rail is out for those crabs Peace was never an option in the re-evolution community
@dingchat555
@dingchat555 6 ай бұрын
@@primevalrex7266 The rails are leading an uprising against the crabs. It's a revolution
@LilFeralGangrel
@LilFeralGangrel 6 ай бұрын
Trees: 😎
@mhead1117
@mhead1117 6 ай бұрын
Crabs are ugly tho so who really won?
@leothebugnerd
@leothebugnerd 6 ай бұрын
@@mhead1117 your mom is ugly but seriously, do not insult crabs in my presence
@AroundTheBlockAgain
@AroundTheBlockAgain 3 ай бұрын
What an odd poetry that the thing we think of as "the most bird-like" thing about birds - their flight - is something they "seem to hate doing" since it's so energy intensive, and is one of the first things they ditch given half a chance and no penalties for doing so.
@thelastsliceofbread4098
@thelastsliceofbread4098 6 ай бұрын
If I had a nickle for every time a flightless aldabra rail evolved on the Aldabra atoll I'd have two nickles. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
@Essex121514
@Essex121514 6 ай бұрын
"Only 2x? Those are rookie numbers."~ Crabs
@SchuylerS
@SchuylerS 6 ай бұрын
Bizarre beast suggestion: Nothobranchius killifish Shortest lifecycle of a vertebrate species. Nothobranchius Fuzeri mature, spawn, and die within three months. They lay there eggs in mud that dries out for months until rain comes again. Bonus: they're super colorful and cool looking!
@neutralseife8419
@neutralseife8419 6 ай бұрын
OMG YES killifish are so cool! I have a species of longer living ones and its interesting how their eggs have a far longer incubation period then most fish of that size. I guess that is because their ancestors where seasonal fish that readapted to a "normal" livecycle. I don't know if this is actually the case for this genus (Epiplatys), but i heard that there is genetic evidence in some killifish, that they have switched between stategies multiple times in the past, which is just evolution at it's finest.
@moekitsune
@moekitsune 5 ай бұрын
YES KILLIFISH ARE SO COOL
@thatpandaz6094
@thatpandaz6094 6 ай бұрын
IS THIS MAN ON EVERY KZbin CHANNEL????
@greywolf7577
@greywolf7577 6 ай бұрын
Wait until you meet Simon Whistler.
@evancombs5159
@evancombs5159 5 ай бұрын
@@greywolf7577 I feel like every day he starts a new channel that I then tell KZbin to block, only for me to get recommended a new video from him on another channel the next day.
@mildlydazed9608
@mildlydazed9608 5 ай бұрын
There’s 10 people somehow creating every channel lol
@cooliipie
@cooliipie 20 күн бұрын
Science channels
@alexanderren1097
@alexanderren1097 5 ай бұрын
Omniman: “What’s another 17,000 years? I can always start again. Make another bird!”
@BlackReshiram
@BlackReshiram 23 күн бұрын
im more concerned with how insanely cute these rails are oml
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 6 ай бұрын
Wow, those rails have deep and enduring beef with crabs, I'll bet the crabs have a tendency to predate rail eggs and young chicks. Or they just don't like the look of ocean bugs? 🤔
@NinaDmytraczenko
@NinaDmytraczenko 6 ай бұрын
I mean, the crabs already won the first round, with that whole extinction of the first rail so... Maybe the new birds want generational revenge?
@Lolibeth
@Lolibeth 6 ай бұрын
They're tasty
@sophierobinson2738
@sophierobinson2738 6 ай бұрын
“I will gradually peck all the tasty bits from this pinchy bug.”
@RailfoxStudios
@RailfoxStudios 6 ай бұрын
It can be all of the above. It's rarely if ever that black and white when it comes to nature.
@deeespinal9666
@deeespinal9666 6 ай бұрын
We talking bout species that will each eat they own kind the moment any red shows from an injury
@MrT_Rex
@MrT_Rex 6 ай бұрын
That bird : HELLO BOYS, I'M BAAAACK
@YaManImCool
@YaManImCool 6 ай бұрын
Ah no, wrong bird. It's Quaids rail that's attributed with that particular call.
@GaryDunion
@GaryDunion 6 ай бұрын
Wild that I had never heard the word gallinule before! We do have one species in Britain and it's super common, but we call it them moorhens.
@dariuscasaus57
@dariuscasaus57 6 ай бұрын
Why does the rail at 2:15 have to be so rude? The Aldabra tortoise is just minding its own business
@RingoBuns
@RingoBuns 5 ай бұрын
Straight up just poking him in the eye. That’s so rude!
@mattfleming86
@mattfleming86 5 ай бұрын
Behaviorally they really remind me of chickens. Chickens do the same things. I have one who always tried to eat the little brown mole on my leg. It's like they get fixated on an image and decide "i'ma try to eat that"
@DeathlordSlavik
@DeathlordSlavik 3 ай бұрын
@@mattfleming86 They think it is something like a tick or maybe something that is stuck on you like part of plant you brushed up against or dead skin as many species of birds will clean other animals of things like ticks or build up of dead skin and plant material. Same thing is happening in the video the bird sees something like a small bug or dead skin and wants to eat it. Even birds like crows will do this when it comes to ticks which shows just how common the behavior is.
@njlkerins
@njlkerins 6 ай бұрын
"Part of a train track" (Dad joke alert!) :-D
@LeBatteur
@LeBatteur 6 ай бұрын
“Crab-shaped” is such a delightful descriptor.
@annsidbrant7616
@annsidbrant7616 6 ай бұрын
Always good to see and hear Hank Greene!
@zoolover4669
@zoolover4669 6 ай бұрын
I love rails. They are one of my favorite groups of birds.
@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen
@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen 6 ай бұрын
It seems to me that this is just convergent evolution, but happening at different times. Rather than two species of far different classifications evolving into similar forms, it's two species of far different times evolving into similar forms.
@Dr.Ian-Plect
@Dr.Ian-Plect 6 ай бұрын
Your wording is incorrect by not presenting valid comparisons, but that aside, one point; convergence doesn't require the taxa to be contemporaneous, so that part is irrelevant.
@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen
@YouTubeallowedmynametobestolen 6 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Ian-Plect Thanks, Doc!
@Noxturne09
@Noxturne09 5 ай бұрын
Please upload more rail vs crab footage!!!!
@iamsheel
@iamsheel 6 ай бұрын
This seems like Zelda games lore shenanigans
@katarinavalentine
@katarinavalentine 6 ай бұрын
Damn the rail was weaving like a boxer against that crab lol
@ChaosMagnet
@ChaosMagnet 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for remaining pro-science, pro-reality in the ugly face of anti-scientific nonsense, ‘intelligent’ design silliness, and mass belief in stupid conspiracies! This channel and the others from these creators are a lovely breath of fresh air. Fresh, tropical, island air, even!
@MaoRatto
@MaoRatto 6 ай бұрын
Then again hope these aren't the science deniers that believe in non-binary as it's a trend I am noticing. If going to be fully pro-science then you must throw all unscientific stuff out the window.
@basiliskboy17
@basiliskboy17 5 ай бұрын
@@MaoRatto nonbinary identities aren't anti-science, they're an application of the social sciences and the social construct of gender identity. Please stop acting like everything that makes you feel funny inside is somehow fake
@fko3143
@fko3143 5 ай бұрын
Evolution never ends!
@LDProductionsClass
@LDProductionsClass 6 ай бұрын
The book "Improbable Destinies" is about this feature of evolution. It covers evolutionary experiments with introducing lizards to tiny islands in the Caribbean and allowing tiny fish to colonize pools upstream.
@saucesamurai8768
@saucesamurai8768 3 ай бұрын
5:16 that crab is really pissed
@acarnold
@acarnold 5 ай бұрын
Let’s say: “near identical adaptations of the same root species evolved on two separate occasions”
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 6 ай бұрын
Wasn't the dodo a flightless pigeon, rather than a rail?
@cecillianhater
@cecillianhater 6 ай бұрын
i think he meant that there's more extinct rails rather than dodos being rails
@theapexsurvivor9538
@theapexsurvivor9538 6 ай бұрын
Technically I'm pretty sure dodos are part of the Paleaognathae
@JohnDrummondPhoto
@JohnDrummondPhoto 6 ай бұрын
@@theapexsurvivor9538 no, I checked. They're definitely part of the Columbidae (pigeons).
@mayaenglish5424
@mayaenglish5424 6 ай бұрын
He didn't say they were rails, just another flightless bird in the area!
@Gunter4life
@Gunter4life 3 ай бұрын
This birb always comes back
@Rubrickety
@Rubrickety 6 ай бұрын
I noticed that Hank carefully avoided mentioning the third rail.
@PirateOfTheNorth
@PirateOfTheNorth 6 ай бұрын
Cool, I was not expecting to see Hank Green here when I clicked on this video
@Shaden0040
@Shaden0040 6 ай бұрын
please do an episode on the Aldabra tortoise the second largest tortoise in the world and they are endangered. And you can get one from a reputable breeder causeway they are being bred commercially be aware they are the second largest tortoise they can weigh up to 500 lbs. And they're very very friendly.
@foxgloved8922
@foxgloved8922 6 ай бұрын
Usually endangered animals can’t be bought because, breeders or not, rareness encourages poaching. What’s different in this case?
@BizarreBeasts
@BizarreBeasts 6 ай бұрын
We have done an episode on giant tortoises! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJDKaoZmjthgpposi=9L_F0vwKV-PdVpVg
@keithfaulkner6319
@keithfaulkner6319 6 ай бұрын
​@@foxgloved8922 aldabras are not endangered. They're all over their native environment. Galapago tortoises, ARE endangered, and you can't get them. Totally different species.
@foxgloved8922
@foxgloved8922 6 ай бұрын
@@keithfaulkner6319 thanks for the clarification. OP made it sound like they are advocating for purchasing an endangered animal.
@JaniceinOR
@JaniceinOR 6 ай бұрын
Aldabra tortoises are vulnerable (just one step from endangered) according to Wikipedia and PBS and IUCN. So @shaden0040's comment was incorrect, but there is indeed concern about the species. IUCN's website states their status was assessed in 1996, which is 28 years ago; I wonder if they are doing better or worse now. The IUCN website notes that (in 1996, I assume) "population severely fragmented", "continuing decline of mature individuals", "continuing decline in area, extent, and/or quality of habitat".
@cmoor8616
@cmoor8616 6 ай бұрын
Thanos: I am inevitable. Some atoll bird: 🐦
@RingoBuns
@RingoBuns 5 ай бұрын
Omg they’re just little guys
@Allegheny500
@Allegheny500 3 ай бұрын
Penguins are flightless birds but water is a second home to them, many birds like seagulls can float, so the question is, did those rials go extinct when the island flooded? Or did some of them float to another island somewhere and return later after some evolutionary tweaking.
@jeremysart
@jeremysart 6 ай бұрын
How long has this channel existed and how did I not know about it!?
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal 6 ай бұрын
Bird versus crab. A rivalry as old as time.
@existenceisillusion6528
@existenceisillusion6528 6 ай бұрын
It should be noted that the variations of evolution are all the same evolution. It is only the circumstances that change.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 6 ай бұрын
Awwww... those little black fluffybutt Rails are adorable! 🖤🖤 And this is (as Hank mentioned) like how things like to become crabs, except in birds, so it's not really so surprising, IMO. Interesting, yes - very! But not horribly strange. 😊
@daniell8331
@daniell8331 5 ай бұрын
In New Zealand we have 2 that are flightless and another 2 that are/were getting that way.... .....before the greatest selection pressure of all time showed up that is.
@SmolFenFen
@SmolFenFen 3 ай бұрын
The thing that gets me, if that bird evolved on that atoll that could have been swallowed up by waves... What obscene ungodly impossible level of probability had to happen for that atoll to not get swallowed up by waves for the millions of years needed?
@robertjones2811
@robertjones2811 5 ай бұрын
All dogs were the same breed 5,000 years ago.
@alexanderno1093
@alexanderno1093 5 ай бұрын
so a creature with the same pieces, on eye level at least, put together a very similar puzzle 😱
@emmavata9159
@emmavata9159 12 күн бұрын
This tactic might work on the dodo next year
@elijahbachrach6579
@elijahbachrach6579 6 ай бұрын
Species translates to something like “semblance/form.” When the word was first used by scientists they meant “these all have the exact same form and do the exact same thing.”
@NitroIndigo
@NitroIndigo 6 ай бұрын
Carl Linnaeus.
@Zach-ku6eu
@Zach-ku6eu 6 ай бұрын
Weren't kidding about them curls! Good job though.
@Articulate99
@Articulate99 5 ай бұрын
Always interesting, thank you.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 6 ай бұрын
I would hope that certain birds like that would develop the ability to at least float on top if the water. A lot like how Ducks do.. Obviously they won't have the waterproofing effect that most birds that evolved to interact with water have developed
@lauracassidy8152
@lauracassidy8152 5 ай бұрын
Hank your new hair looks so great! I hope you think so as well. Keep up the awesome.
@Iknowtoomuchable
@Iknowtoomuchable 5 ай бұрын
"I... am inevitable." -This bird, apparently.
@alexandraleimbach8290
@alexandraleimbach8290 6 ай бұрын
Was the dodo not related to pigeons ? Is there new evidence out ?
@BizarreBeasts
@BizarreBeasts 6 ай бұрын
You are right! Dodo's are related to pigeons! We were just saying that they are the most famous flightless bird that lived on an island in the Indian Ocean, not that they were also rails.
@alexandraleimbach8290
@alexandraleimbach8290 6 ай бұрын
@@BizarreBeasts Ah ok. Then i misunderstood. Thanks
@Brian-uy2tj
@Brian-uy2tj 6 ай бұрын
What I found interesting was in the scenes where you see the bird pecking at a relatively large crab, I noticed that it was a female crab carrying eggs and the bird isn't so much pecking at the crab as much as it is stealing the crabs eggs. That is one way to keep the land crab population under control.
@Shaden0040
@Shaden0040 6 ай бұрын
the correct term for siniment around a fossil is called a matrix.
@revolution1237
@revolution1237 6 ай бұрын
When you're a paleontologist and someone says "Matrix": "Ah, the sediment or rock that encloses a fossil. Fascinating!" When you're a movie fan and someone says "Matrix": "Red pill or blue pill? Welcome to the real world, Neo!"
@Waaaghka
@Waaaghka 6 ай бұрын
Nature said "extinct". Bird said "nuh uh"
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 5 ай бұрын
a correction, dodo is a pigeon relative not a rail.
@Kimmaline
@Kimmaline 6 ай бұрын
Is the rail going after the crab, or the eggs it's carrying on it's underside? It looked to me like they were just trying to pluck off a few eggs, not take out the entire crabby boi.
@OorahhColeman
@OorahhColeman 6 ай бұрын
Just reading about the Inaccessible Island Rail on Wikipedia and had to come back to this.
@capnstewy55
@capnstewy55 6 ай бұрын
Flight is a disadvantage...until it's a huge advantage.
@futball51
@futball51 6 ай бұрын
Did I see a reference to the Réunion swamphen? The official bird of Hello Internet?
@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting
@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting 5 ай бұрын
Coral atolls form at the top of seamounts, many of which are extinct volcanoes. Extinct volcanoes inevitably collapse, resulting in gradual subsidence and causing what was once an island paradise to sink beneath the waves. No sea level rises necessary. It just is what it is. That said, the ups and downs of sea level adds it's own consequences to this and, what can I say? It's never easy!
@spoookley
@spoookley 6 ай бұрын
i mean, if they’re omnivorous, an island bird, & alive today, that makes me think that they could’ve just swam? have we observed them swimming to find food before? cuz an atoll is a great place to learn, especially if your home regularly becomes flooded. if you’re caught up in a storm at sea, it’s probably safer at the edge of the water then amongst the clouds
@NewAge374
@NewAge374 6 ай бұрын
That could have happened but it's not the most obvious solution. Birds fly, duh, but particularly the family of Gruiformes (also features cranes) are less keen on actual swimming than proper waterfowl (Anseriformes). So comparing the behaviour of extant relatives the proposal of flying from Madagascar to Aldabra is more logical. It is the first hypothesis scientists in ornithological evolution tend to explore to explain species distribution. In addition, rails and crakes are often found near aquatic habitats and feature some adaptations for living on wet surfaces or in the water. But pedalling along the 420km from Madagascar to Aldabra (or the other way around) across an ocean would be a rather extraordinary feat for a bird that's poorly adapted to marine life, without any accidents on the way.
@JaniceinOR
@JaniceinOR 6 ай бұрын
​@@NewAge374 Could the rail have swum over from a nearby island, rather than from Madagascar? Or been swept from one nearby island to another on a raft of storm debris?
@NewAge374
@NewAge374 6 ай бұрын
@@JaniceinOR I don't remember what the video showed exactly but Madagascar would've been the closest island where the ancestral species of rail comes from. What you say sure is possible, but the point of my earlier comment was to say that it's not the most likely origin, which means you need stronger evidence to suggest it compared to the theory of re-evolving that this video proposes.
@JaniceinOR
@JaniceinOR 6 ай бұрын
@NewAge374 Thank you for clarifying the relevant geography (that Madagascar is the closest other land, and that it is 420 km away). I had not looked at a map, and other comments had sounded as if there were nearby islands.
@wingedhussar1453
@wingedhussar1453 5 ай бұрын
Wow that evolution like non fligntess in animal happened in 10 thousand yeats is crazy
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 6 ай бұрын
Yeah... we need some genome mapping here!
@Terjavez
@Terjavez 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if this channel ever attached the subject of the blue iguana
@lucianonahuelmansilla4266
@lucianonahuelmansilla4266 5 ай бұрын
"they were gone forever...or were they?" *Vsauce music starts playing*
@Mumbamumba
@Mumbamumba 6 ай бұрын
You should try a Rollladen for sleeping. It's divine.
@BankruptGreek
@BankruptGreek 6 ай бұрын
the remaster everyone wanted
@Sciborg9
@Sciborg9 3 ай бұрын
It seems rails just really want to become raptors again.
@JaekSean
@JaekSean 5 ай бұрын
What if some of them were just holding their breath until the island came back?
@brookeallan2677
@brookeallan2677 3 ай бұрын
"Only native flightless bird living on an island in the indian ocean" - me in Australia fighting off emus daily......
@lydiathedragon9554
@lydiathedragon9554 6 ай бұрын
Question: do the rail birds eat the crabs? Or are they pecking at the crabs because they are annoyed?
@MatthewTheWanderer
@MatthewTheWanderer 6 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. The crabs look too big for the rails to eat, though.
@alonsogabriel9336
@alonsogabriel9336 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if its possible to recreate a dodo bird if we force a similar species to go reiterative evolution
@abominablesnowman876
@abominablesnowman876 5 ай бұрын
some evolve to become crabs and some become... barnacles. yeah, they are the same freaking family
@TestUser-cf4wj
@TestUser-cf4wj 5 ай бұрын
So this isnt two identical evolutions of the same parent species, but this _near_ identical evolution of the same parent species raises an interesting evolutionary possibility: could iterative evolution be a factor in the development of traits that are reinserted into the parent population? Say theres an island that is periodically connected to the mainland when sea levels drop where flightless birds evolve during periods of isolation, that are then reintroduced to their flying relatives when the island becomes connected again. The level of speciation isnt so radical that the two populations can't interbreed, so the flightless gene is taken up by the flying population. This process repeats many times until enough copies of the flightless gene get introduced to the flying population that it primes the flying population to evolve flightlessness at the drop of a hat. Or something similar. I was actually thinking about hammerhead sharks, but i dont think there's any evidence that they went through iterative evolution.
@KBRoller
@KBRoller 5 ай бұрын
So basically, it's a case of convergent evolution with a common ancestor. A evolved into B, and then later A evolved into C; B and C just happen to have similar traits because they evolved under similar (basically identical) conditions and started from the same form. Neat!
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 6 ай бұрын
It is good to see you back Hank. You are a prime educator who is much loved. Thank you.
@tobyihli9470
@tobyihli9470 6 ай бұрын
That’s pretty incredible, don’t you think? No, really, that’s fascinating. Did both eventual, and similar iterations begin with the same original bird species?
@sharondornhoff7563
@sharondornhoff7563 6 ай бұрын
Might be interesting to check the mainland population of white-throated rails, and see if there's a low but non-zero incidence of chicks being hatched among them that lack the capacity for flight. Off the atoll where predators are prevalent, such a trait would rate as a genetic flaw that incurs a fatal disability, but on the atoll it's a harmless energy-saver.
@TheTheiceking
@TheTheiceking 6 ай бұрын
love the background, ill get that too one day ha
@NewMessage
@NewMessage 6 ай бұрын
Man, life isn't hard enough the firs time 'round?
@NinaDmytraczenko
@NinaDmytraczenko 6 ай бұрын
Right? I would've just stayed home (Madagascar), flying all the way to Aldabra seems like such a chore. And now there are humans, to make matters worse
@Zebulization
@Zebulization 6 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for the larger crabs, it looks like death by a thousand cuts. I am not sure that the crab would be able to kill the bird any faster. I assume the occasional bird misjudges the strength or speed of a crab and gets clamped.
@seese9456
@seese9456 6 ай бұрын
Iterative evolution is kind of amazing because it shows how strong selective pressures and strict niches can generate the "same" species multiple times.
@Hughjaoses8766
@Hughjaoses8766 6 ай бұрын
Sey sells Seychelles down by the Seychelles? No thats not it
@c7iC
@c7iC 6 ай бұрын
No crab is inevitable
@t.c.2776
@t.c.2776 4 ай бұрын
Dragsters are called "rails"... You can "rail" at someone in anger... you can have a Stair rail... you can have a chair rail... and of course a train rail... I'm sure there are many others I don't know of... 🤔
@maciejrejowski4682
@maciejrejowski4682 6 ай бұрын
So that's what happens when your spawn point gets obstructed.
@grandgojira5485
@grandgojira5485 6 ай бұрын
Eistein's definition of insanity is attempting the same wrong answer repeatedly with no adjustment after it fails.
@alwillcox
@alwillcox 6 ай бұрын
4:50 Who else heard "that we know of" in Lindsay's voice?
@pressb
@pressb 5 ай бұрын
Unaddressed question, can the flightless Aldabran rails still mate successfully with the Madagascan root stock? are they separate species or sub-spieces? if the flightlessness evolved in 16,000 years from the same root stock and they can still successfully breed with their root stock it is conceivable that the pre-flood sub-species could breed successfully with their post flood cousins.
@honeylocustlavenderfarm
@honeylocustlavenderfarm 3 ай бұрын
I believe it would be more likely that these flightless rails evolved and probably crossbred with flighted rails, who took the genetics away from that area for a time, and then once reintroduced those genetics remain predominant. Meaning that the rail never d evolved or re. Evolved. But simply the genetics, we're already transfixed in its genome
@mr.pringle8466
@mr.pringle8466 6 ай бұрын
Why isn't just that the same environment prompted the same results.? An environment so rich with food, crabs and bugs and absent of predators, they evolved as the product of that same environment.
@georgeb.wolffsohn30
@georgeb.wolffsohn30 6 ай бұрын
I thought Dodos were pigeons .
@Semperdendron
@Semperdendron 6 ай бұрын
Yep. Me too. And according to wikipedia as well.
@BonaparteBardithion
@BonaparteBardithion 5 ай бұрын
He called them "flightless birds". I think people are just interpreting the video as saying they're related to rails because the immediate follow-up example is another rail species.
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