Did Turtle Wax Nail it with the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Detailing Range?

[@turtlewax]

Jon - we’re always watching! We love your honesty - we are always learning from you and appreciate you! We hear you on the feedback - the good and bad!! You know we’re always working the lab to turn out better products and improve on what we have! More to come from Team Turtle soon…

[@sb-vy8cw]

I am a complete amateur that just wants to maintain my volvo v60 paint work without any risk. Bought the ceramic coating and love it. Does exactly what I wanted, it's easy to use and looks amazing! Great product and just wanted to provide my feedback from a complete (no exaggeration) car novice.

[@MickDrivesCars]

I've been doing a lot of research into car wash products after buying my first car. Reading this comment makes me want to support you guys 110%!

[@sb-vy8cw]

@@MickDrivesCars then I highly recommend this. Just washed, polished (my first ever attempt) and then used the spray coating. Now makes my car so easy to maintain. Used it on the glass and wheels as well.

[@ForensicDetailing]

much respect back. you are a team of wonderful human beings and I personally love the fact you are innovating again, cant wait to see whats coming next.

[@charlesbardforth6738]

Great to see a company watching reviews and hopefully taking feedback.

[@hartlanddetailer5670]

Jon, I appreciate your videos, you're one of the best! How I use the line of TW Hybrid Solution products, Step 1, 2 coats of Polish/Wax, waiting 24 hours between coats. Step 2, Ceramic Spray, 2 coats waiting 24 hours between coats. Step 3, Weekly washes with ONR. Step 4, Monthly cleaning with 3 in 1 detailer. Step 5, at the 6 month mark, wash with the Hybrid Wash. Step 6, Spray on wet wax, then dry. Step 7, Spray 1 coat of ceramic spray. I first applied step 1 back in November of 2019 and now coming onto 9 months, my cars cars still have shine & protection. As you know, preparation is key, make sure your car has been strip washed, chemically & mechanically decon., before you start with step 1. I highly recommend the Hybrid line of products, because of ease of use & reasonably priced! I am not aware of another product on the market today that's works well for a non professional like me? Keep up the Great Videos!

[@Audittr2108]

I’ve ended up with the whole range in the end and have used for a couple of months on both our cars. Firstly I was not happy to find the wet wax and detailer do not come in the 748ml sizes that were sent to all the review channels. We only get 500ml in the UK so that’s a rip off. The polish is the stand out product for me and for a quick and very effective one step enhancement, the polish teamed up with the yellow Rupes wool pad is amazing. The spray coating is pretty good and leaves nice gloss levels. It can streak but is easily sorted by a secondary wipe with a damp cloth. To top up the protection, the wet wax is a nice product and on a car after drying, the 3 in 1 detailer is decent too. Use as a detailer and not a waterless wash. There are better SIO2 detailers though such as those from Garage Therapy and Bouncers. I find for topping up the protection, the shampoo is quite effective. It doesn’t foam up and you need a lot in the bucket but I’d use every 4th wash or so. It does give a boost to the beading. Should be very handy in the winter. I will keep using for now but in the long run I see only the polish being bought again. This is a great AIO and can give reasonable correction with the right pad. I rarely stick with the same LSP’s anyway as half the fun of detailing is trying new products. All the range has an rrp of £18 but Amazon sell for £14.

[@bradleypauley6036]

I was after a nice foamy shampoo for ages. For a weekend warrior i also fancied something with a nice scent. Tried loads! Ended up with one from a Scottish company, flawless car care! I'd recommend checking them out

[@johndearn9457]

Used these products recently on my Golf R, to be honest it works perfectly well, impressive shine from the ceramic coating, have to disagree about its price, I personally think it’s cheap for what you get, there’s more expensive products on the market.

[@jamest7485]

I whole heartedly agree. I think all the hype is what left many people unimpressed. I for one love the product line and obtained stellar results. There's just no pleasing some people I guess.

[@Simon-kh2dd]

Great review, I used their polish and did the whole car as a first attempt at machine polishing. It did improve and enhance. Followed up with the ceramic spray, that was in April and it still is beading. Didn't go for the shampoo, expensive and Bilt Hamber and GT one do a better job, IMO. Thanks for a great channel!

[@steveemmerson4954]

Hi Jon, Love your informative reviews, down to earth and always worth watching. I use the Turtle Wax ceramic shampoo for my wheels only, I find it keeps the brake dust at bay and you can see and feel the ceramic protection. Agree that this is not sudsy enough, use Autoglym HD shampoo for the rest of my car, like spreading liquid butter.

[@sixtysecondsofstephens2386]

The older blue style bottle is incredible as you say. On my black car or my wife's white car the shine and slickness is awesome. Great seeing such an old name coming right back to the best.

[@MithosXXI]

Surprised people in the comments are having problems with the hybrid solutions line. I had nothing but success using their ceramic spray coating and ceramic wet wax. No streaking whatsoever. With the ceramic spray coating, use 1-2 sprays per panel, nothing more!! With wet wax, I’m generous apply 3-5 sprays per panel and it cures very rapidly in just 2 wipes. More user friendly than using the meguiars hybrid ceramic line as of far. In one of my cars I have 8 months going strong with the ceramic spray coating and topping off with ceramic wet wax every other wash, and beading is like Day 1. In my other car, the ceramic spray coating is going strong as well using meguiars hybrid ceramic detailer or hydro suds for topping it off.

[@Alans6563]

Same here, I find it to be fantastic.

[@jamest7485]

Same here. My experience with it has been pleasant all the way around. I must admit I did get some streaks when applying. BUT I applied it in 95 degree weather so I wasn't mad. A simple wipe with a wet microfiber fixed it for me.

[@turkimax1]

⚠️ Many thanks for your amazing videos, and I have a question... Can this product "wash & wax" be applied as engine bay and underneath the car to protect it as well❓

[@ForensicDetailing]

No mate

[@paulborg9609]

Jon, the way I see it about the 'wash and wax' is to use it as just a top up 'wax' on a weekly wash. The polish and wax used primarily and then topped up with ceramic wet wax. So from then on you can use the wash and wax on a regular basis (or the detailer if your car is clean)

[@georgeduello]

Great test. Based on you tests could I substitute Tac System Shinee Wax for the Turtle Wax Spray Coating? Is or will it compatible? I have a fresh layer of Turtle Wax Polish & Wax on the car?

[@declanflaherty8958]

cheers Jon for this look back video. I find the product range ok but expensive. Paying 26,90€ in Finland for the wet wax which is way too expensive for my needs. The shampoo is ok but a pain in the ass to clean off if it dries in. I started off with the green bottle and it was alright, nothing really great but it did seem to give a glossy look. Protection? This is my problem with this whole range...is there protection over 6 months or is it snake oil we are been sold??

[@Alans6563]

Have to say Jon I find the ceramic detailer to be excellent. I always use it after I've washed and dried the car and give it a quick spray and wipe with it. Picks up any little bits I've missed and boots the shine and protection. Anyway the finish I get is fantastic! I really like it. I do have the ceramic spray (the green one) already applied underneath mind you.

[@peemick]

I would agree that the Wet Wax is the hidden gem in this line. I’ve been a TW fan since the Ice Polish. The clear one that everyone still has at least half a bottle of lol I think that the old Hybrid line blows this new stuff out the water in terms of ease of use, value for money and results. I just did the mrs silver car from this old hybrid range, 10hrs of work, 2 coats of hybrid sealant, 1 coat of dry and shine and washed with the hybrid snow foam as a wash and wax. I use the waterless wash for the door shuts. I’m just lazy with her car and want to spend as little time possible detailing her car, and still great Decent result. I just don’t think that I could get the same value out of the ceramics as I can get out the hybrid. Also the only iron reactive cleaner I can think of in the tw line in redline, a decent, and cheap wheel cleaner I can only hope that they continue building on the success

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Imagine AIO polish but instead of Sio2 but with seal and shine protection

[@charlesbardforth6738]

Seal n shine has Sio2......But it wont work as well. The lubricants and abrassives make it hard for the coating to bond correctly

[@jindra8268]

@@charlesbardforth6738 seal n shine doesn't have sio2

[@charlesbardforth6738]

@@jindra8268 F. Your right. I remember it having it. Saw it as part of the hybrid technology crap. Ahh well I stand corrected

[@aliwoh]

Thanks for going to the trouble of thoroughly reviewing all these products. I need your advice again. I’m picking up a brand new car next week and I want to protect it with Turtle Wax ceramic products. Typically, it’s pissing down the day I collect it. When it’s stoped raining, I planned on giving it a thorough safe wash as you’ve demonstrated on another video, clay bar and further wash. But because we have hard water where I live, it’s impossible to avoid water spots when drying. So, I want to know if it would be a good idea to use the ceramic polish and wax by hand to remove the water spots, wait 24 hours then use the ceramic spray. My plan would be to maintain the protection over summer (Australia) by none contact washing and using ceramic wet wax to dry. Or is polishing a new car excessive?would you recommend using the detailer spray to remove the watermarks instead? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers.

[@Iceberg4k1]

The wet wax is really a fantastic product for the price. I haven't tried the sealant yet but I'm more interested in the newly formulated seal n shine to be honest.

[@gaberivera7228]

I totally agree about the wash products as the priority! Most people who care about their car spend most of the time washing it. The wax, Decon, polish is every few months at most. But since most wash their car weekly, we need those products to be the best.

[@SparkleanAutos]

100% that's why I have 2 shelves worth of Bilt Hamber bottles 🤣🤣

[@DavidC1]

John, is the shelf next to the door "your product shelf" of products you use during your regular maintenance. And the other stuff in the garage is mostly reviewing products?

[@ForensicDetailing]

its all moved now. the 2 black shelves near the door are all my main products I use. Im gonna walk through this actually very good. for once Im in a good place with it where I have complete clarity dave. you will like it.

[@MegaGEZZZ]

The shampoo is actually my favourite, to me it feels like a half way between a normal shampoo and ONR it rinses so easily with no streaking and is very slick you’ve gotta get over the suds it’s all in your head!! I also find I don’t need to decontaminate as often as nothing really sticks to the paint, agree with rest of range I’ve tried and not fussed on them, the graphene range is even worse the flex wax is a nightmare on black paint absolutely awful 😢

[@gaberivera7228]

Prior to the hybrid solutions, all you ever heard about was just seal n shine. But now I think hybrid solutions opened the door to all kinds of TW products bedside just their spray sealants. That’s what it did for me!

[@Antto]

I agree 100% with you Jon about the Turtle Wax products and what they should do to improve. Great stuff.

[@MindbodyMedic]

just used BH Double speed wax on your recommendation. half car done and my arm is getting a rest, fairly impressed. I did bare minimum cleaning before hand on a fiesta from 2004 with very tired paint that's never been touched as far as I can tell. Now I find out about these glazes. They say to put them on beforehand then wax, any in particular you guys would recommend? I like the idea of minor scratches being covered with glaze

[@robertomarino643]

Don't look any further than Autoglym super resin polish

[@ianwilson2968]

Bilt Hamber Cleanser Polish.

[@capsel22]

Autoglym super resin polish then wax and you are golden. I pair it with autoglym hd wax, but the BH double speed wax is a solid choice too.

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

Dodo juice lime prime

[@Scottishboy-gg8bc]

Enjoyed that video apart for a lot of it being out of focus. Don't know what camera you're using but Sony have just released the A7S III which is rumoured to be very good. I must try your idea of putting the Ceramic Spray Coating onto a wet applicator first. My use of that on a Sonic Grey FK8 seems to leave a bit of a haze that takes a fair bit of buffing (elbow grease) to get rid of it and that is done in my garage. I could not agree with you more in that TW need to be a One Stop shop for all your car detailing. I fancy giving the shampoo a try though.

[@AlfaGiuliaQV]

Bought the wet wax in store just to try out one of the products in this line. I'm usually covered in all other areas by products from meguiars, autoglym, angelwax and carchem etc, so i have som references to a bunch of brands. Must say have to agree on the wet wax working surprisingly well, leaving a slick finish and added reasonable amounts of gloss on a car with a very difficult colour (VW Tungsten silver) So i will hold on to that bottle. Fully in par with meguiars ultimate quick wax (so far)

[@Mogsy28uk]

agree Jon, Dry & Shine & Sealant Wax are good, and less than £8 per bottle, the Ceramic ones are £18 or so per bottle, and i find Meg's HCD gives better finish stage and good for topping up TW Sealant Wax and around £15-16, lasts for months. TW Wash & Wax or Meg's Ultimate Wash & Wax are the best, but Meg's is twice the cost of the TW, which is about £7-8.

[@intothedetails1972]

I agree with you Jon. Just for giggles, I tried some in my foam cannon and the foam layer was quite thin for me. The rest of the product line have some really nice products though. Re: Your dream list for detailing products...I think you need to team up with Turtle Wax and come up with a “Forensic Detailing” Approved products line. If they can impress you, we have a winner.

[@ForensicDetailing]

if they built a line to cater for what I wanted they would probably go out of business :) this ties in with the point that ultimately TW have been the largest detailing brand on the planet since the dawn of detailing products, and they have learnt what sells and what does not. this maybe doesnt align with the detailing scene view of products that I have. But should you be a small niche scene brands or a brand that aims to serve a wider huge market. We would all go for the later wouldnt we.

[@intothedetails1972]

Forensic Detailing Channel So true! Maybe it’s time for you to come up with your own brand then! Please keep those videos coming, I enjoy every single one. ❤️

[@tobywiddicombe5457]

Hey, loving these vids. Can you tell me if Turtle Wax Color Magic black Paintwork Polish & Shine Is any good? Thanks!

[@ForensicDetailing]

im not a massive fan of sort of pigmented products. use pure abrasives to correct your paintwork with machine polishers... Anything else is non perminant.

[@tallguydetail]

I am considering trying these products on my car detail videos. Thank you!

[@ForensicDetailing]

best of luck doing you tube

[@nicorallysport]

My favorite of turtle wax hybrid is the 3 in 1 detailer !. It is very good on dust and avoid scratching the clear coat!. The ceramic spray coating makes too many streaks without use with a damp microfiber! And for the hydrophobic effect I much prefer Meguiar's hybrid ceramic detailer (this is only my opinion!)

[@SuperVitz]

I think TW sits in a different space to what you were asking for, I think their main customer base is the less experienced. They won't buy a good concentrate APC, and if they did they'd be disappointed and would complain. I think the Hybrid Solutions is a good middle ground between "prosumer" and "chappy who walked into Halfords and wants to 'buff his car'".

[@steverabbits]

'Turtle Wax are dividing opinions, some will love it and some will hate it' and some Jon (me!) are just confused by it all. I will stick to my BH shampoo and also won't use the TW 3 in 1 detailer, I think I'd rather stick with ONR as a rinseless wash than use a waterless wash. I'm not convinced instant detailers are safe tbh. So I've machine polished my car, the paint is bare, is this the time to use the TW ceramic wax spray coating (green flashed bottle)? Then use the TW wet spray car wax (gold flashed bottle) as a drying aid to add more siO2 when I wash it in future? The TW ceramic polish and wax (red flashed bottle) is an AIO polish for my sister's car where I don't have time to do a full correction yes? Can it be used with a DA machine? And to top it all off they do versions of some of these items for black cars. Jeeze it's no wonder the world is in turmoil! 12:45 you are bang on the money here in my view Jon. If just one company could get this right it would be a Godsend. Better still if all companies could do exactly that life would be so much simpler, you could just find your favourite range and say 'I'm a BH man, or Autoglym or Meguiars etc etc and buy their range where everything dovetails perfectly into each other and works spankingly as an integrated system, wouldn't life be wonderful! So many companies, too many categories and waaaaay too many products. Back in my day in sales and marketing we used to call it 'confusion marketing' because we knew it sold us more products. It's still alive and well in the detailing industry 🤬

[@kevinbegley5881]

Could you review the new Carplan No1 Super range? I've used them and I've thought they were brilliant, very impressed with it. They are set up in the 3 stages; Super wash, Super detox and Super gloss, although I didnt risk with the No1 super gloss it is apparently meant to be really good. Hopefully hear what you think, in the meantime I'll stick to hybrid protection to finish!

[@benclimo461]

Great video, I just got some tw ceramic spray coating. Just wondering when you mention about heat, what temperature do you mean? Some people say 35c is a nice summers day, while others think 15c is too hot.

[@ForensicDetailing]

if the sun is out and you touch your car and it even feels slightly warm, this creates problems. its because your literally atomising product onto the car and the tiny trace elements of water can vaporise instantly leaving you with no carrier and product that will insta streak. so if sun is out be carefull.. and the hotter it is be even more carefull. Above 25-30 deg I would not wash the car.

[@benclimo461]

@@ForensicDetailing what would you recommend during summer time if you don't have a garage? I've got a motorbike but don't have anywhere to put it besides on the road. As you know it's pretty warm in the UK currently.

[@jackwest5506]

Totally agree! Love turtle Wax as a brand but feel there not offering enough. Might use there ceramic spray on my mini. Would love to see you do a soft 99 package video as I'm using it on my s15 and they take durability to another level!

[@davestewart9146]

Love hearing your opinion on these products, keep it up Sir 👍😁

[@allistairbarratt2880]

Jon, is it viable to dilute the wet wax shown here? Seems to work well with some other things you have recommended. Great vid as always, cheers 🍻 👍

[@SparkleanAutos]

I wouldn't highly recommend that - it won't do any harm but if you think about what the product does, you spray it onto a WET panel which is already diluting it... So if you dilute it beforehand, your doubling up on that dilution, thus making the product (potentially) much less effective.

[@deevick4270]

Is it safe to change ceramic coating brands?

[@Papatroll]

This Jennychem stuff is amazing, why have you not tested it yet ?!

[@TheDokoBG]

He is a detailer, he wants specifics things regular folks like me dont even care for... Just give us easy to follow 3-4 products. We don't de-contaminate, we don't degrease, we don't use IRON-DESTROYERS or whatever they call them... This simple range of products is perfect for our needs. All i do is use MR Pink from chem guys for my soap with my foam gun, and then i go ham on these Turtle Wax bad boys - easy.

[@ForensicDetailing]

your right and for everyone of me there are 1000 of you. this refers to the point I made about turtle wax understanding their customer base better than anyone else. And they have stayed number 1 because they know what they are doing. Catering for what I want would probably destroy their company and they would go bust... but never-the-less thats kind of what I want.

[@Raptors0524]

How would you say these products stack up against Maguires ceramic lineup. If you only had to choice one which one word it be?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Turtle wax seems to win on durability, potency, like they load these products up with active ingredients. They try and make them the longest lasting on the market. This can make them a bit harder to use like the ceramic spray. But tbh you would have to do a product by product comparison. I can says ceramic wet wax, cermaic spray and the ceramic polish are 3 classy products that perform well. The 3in1 detailer and the ceramic wash product Im not so in love with. Meguiars historically tend to be more about ease of use with lower durability with their ultimate wax and ultimate liquid wax etc.. meguiars new hybrid ceramic wax though is also pretty powerfull but a bit prone to streaking with its application, but their hybrid quick detailer I found superb. And meguiars M205 and 105 are still top draw abrasives even buy todays standard. TW have some of the best spray waxes on the market. Meguiars perhaps more credible in the pure abrasive catagory. hope that helps.

[@Nigel_S452]

Good review , I love the polish and the ceramic spray, but the retailer is useless and leaves streaks no matter how small amount you use. I bought a bottle of the blue stuff after watching your last review and it’s amazing and only £8 at Halford. I need to watch your reviews of shampoo’s next.. thanks

[@7071t6]

IMHO i would never use a wax/SIO based shampoo, better off using something like a Meguiars soft gel ,which is just a mild shampoo which gets rid of the dust and mild dirt which is on the car with the proper shampoo dispenser ,then rinse with hi pressure water and then apply the SIO based ceramic spray on sealants and if the cars surface is only mildly dirty, i use a quick detailer and then a dedicated SIO2 Detailer or spray on ceramic coating. I guess its out each person to use what ever they think works for them? also noticed that there's no new formula yellow added sticker on the bottles,which i would say its a kit you buy, but i know depending on where you live they have different bottles and labels, still the same products just different labels that's all? Also seen a test's done on the spray on SIO2 based turtle wax product on youtube and it outlasted most of the competitors spray on SIO2 based sealants, so my next buy will be either nova jet and laser or turtle wax's SIO2 based spray on sealant? cheers and keep up the great work your doing. 🏎🏎🏎👍🙌✌👌😊

[@pwrshots]

stop saying how cheap it is. They'll charge more and make you happy :) on a serious note, i have the original seal and shine and not happy with the streaking. took your advise on using a moist cloth. have to agree with the wash. no suds. I mix it with other shampoos. probably won't buy it again.

[@davymac5366]

The ceramic spray coating was poor. No matter how sparsely applied, it left shadowing. Took alot of (to much) effort to remove this. Complained to Turtlewax, they passed it to their technical department on 1st June, as yet I have heard nothing.

[@MrHipwell1989]

Is it that bad really? I've just bought a bottle based on how good seal n shine was!

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Use a damp microfiber towel, then buff off

[@mact153]

@@MrHipwell1989 it can be a pain sometimes to take off the wet wax is very good

[@MrHipwell1989]

@@Carlos.Rivera apply dry with a pad, then damp, then dry buff? Or apply with a damp cloth?

[@Carlos.Rivera]

@@MrHipwell1989 remove with damp cloth, then buff off with dry cloth

[@Kev5F]

I'd like another review of the Farecla product! Super cheap and interesting results 😁

[@DavidC1]

"Give me the best pre wash" , Bilt Hamber fans laughing and pointing :) :) :) :) :) hehehehe

[@SparkleanAutos]

100% 🤣 we all know his pre-wash comments was purely a BH plug! "I want an APC that does everything - exterior, interior, engine bay" haha Surfex HD is just the best undrinkable liquid on earth!! . Love it Jon, great video as always 👍🏼

[@SparkleanAutos]

@@To0l0oT 😬😬😬

[@ptvfr800]

Don’t see the point in shampoos with ‘built in protection’, much better and faster to use a spray on drying aid, leave the shampoo to just remove the dirt.

[@ken3923]

The three-in-one detailer smears like crazy and is hard to use

[@SAylottdesign]

What camera are you using? The AF is bloody annoying

[@ForensicDetailing]

canon 750d. woefull auto focus I know.

[@SAylottdesign]

Forensic Detailing Channel love your videos regardless mind! Was going to give the TW ceramic polish a go next but all the comments below have got me nervous. I’m currently using the maguires ceramic wax spray and was thinking the mild abrasives would be a nice addition.

[@MrZimmaframe]

What do you think of Halfords wash and wax? 😄

[@ashali4151]

Great vid with proper explanation. Any chance you can do review of Car Gods 54 you can buy them from Halfords. Thanks

[@ForensicDetailing]

will try and take a look Ash. cheers mate

[@ashali4151]

Thanks for that. 👍🏻

[@r.k862]

No water spot testing on ceramic coatings yet?

[@JMNTN]

I like it but it’s not better than any other sio2 product. The shampoo seems like a good deal but it’s very diluted so you have to use a lot of it, i wish they made it more concentrated.

[@DavidC1]

high concentrate is the way to go! :) 2000:1 prefered

[@monkey-ik6ws]

Wot do u think about chemical guy cleaning products

[@ForensicDetailing]

they done well as a company, one of few companies thats gone from 1 man band to big brand. They have succeeded by continually offering new product lines. You will hear lots of people say their products are awefull but in the same sentence praise another company thats using the same blender as being the next messiah.

[@01123581321341]

Too much in the range for me and bit fussy. ‘Ceramic’ attached to it a little bandwaggony but some do perform fantastic from experience.

[@EazyDuz18]

agreed, its all lame buzzwords

[@MikesAutoDetailing]

Great video

[@JC-wq4jb]

Totally agree - The detailer spray is the streakiest horrible thing I've ever used. Tried it once and it went in the bin. Avoid !

[@jackwest5506]

What spray?

[@JC-wq4jb]

@@jackwest5506 the 3 in 1 detailer spray

[@jackwest5506]

@@JC-wq4jb yeah I wouldn't bother with waterless wash sprays

[@owensteele1274]

Meguiars Ultimate Waterless Wash and Wax Anywhere sounds like what you're after. So easy to use and leaves a very nice streak-free finish when buffed off. It's not cheap, though.

[@ognenmancevski4210]

First viewer/comment :D Keep up the great work Jon. And yes, they nail it, especialy with coating/protection :D

[@ognenmancevski4210]

Only the first are always remembered 😁😁

[@hakman239]

Jayswax ceramic shampoo looks really foamy and only need 2 caps haven’t used it but hered good things

[@terencejay8845]

I'm puzzled by the 'ceramic' aspect of any of these types of products. In what way are they ceramic?

[@ForensicDetailing]

long discussion but ceramic coatings are equally as "un-ceramic" as these water based ones.. so really you could argue anything goes.

[@user-tj3cf7se6h]

Watch out for Those's Seagulls .. In - depth as always with The Products . Hope U ain't got a 🚙 outside . 🙂

[@audriulis]

So much controversy online about TW products, will be interesting to hear your opinion, watching 👍🏻

[@JMNTN]

I only had bad experiences with turtle wax up to this point. This range is good but not particularly user friendly, the results are good if you do it right.

[@DavidC1]

@@JMNTN i hate turtle wax and im outraged how they pushed their product all over youtube trying to make it seem like its the best thing since sliced bread. I refuse to buy it since they did that.

[@SparkleanAutos]

@@DavidC1 you're saying that as if the KZbinrs themselves won't give an honest review, which may be the case for some, but certainly not the majority... The successful channels like Jon's, Paul Dolden, Specky to name a few are successful BECAUSE they're honest in the criticism and to imply that they'd back a brand because they sent them a nice big box of products is a bit unfair in my opinion!

[@audriulis]

Tbh the biggest problem I see in this range off tw products is that you have to wait 24hrs between coats, and there are many other products which are more user friendly

[@DavidC1]

this stuff is all really expensive

[@steverabbits]

Turtle Wax from memory started in 1941? Or thereabouts

[@TheBearbertie]

The next Turtle Wax brand development manager in the making 🐢. What's your price?

[@paultaylor9652]

Lovely Jubbly video, sadly TurtleWax is the brand, maybe they should of thought of a new name for this range of products.

[@andyupton5851]

Sounds like you need garage therapy in a year or 2 time when they have more products.

[@paulf1767]

I’m disappointed, won’t be buying anymore

[@AlbionSupreme]

Hi, Meguiars gorilla marketing departement

[@paulf1767]

StormWatcher Really? so just because I don’t rate a product for my car you automatically assume I work for a rival company; or are you introducing yourself as Meguiars marketing department?

[@SuperchargedLlama]

Sounds like your detailing company would be Bilt Hamber? 😂

[@-Kenneth-9161]

He actually nailed why Turtle failed for me. The 24 h waiting period on the product. The ceramic spray was an pain with streaking, even if you used an damp towel and made sure you don’t use to much. The durability is very good , the ease of use is an total failure. Not gonna buy any of this again, before they fix this.

[@ForensicDetailing]

its interesting isnt it. the misconception with Turtle wax is the products might be perhaps less premium or less potent. The reality is they are trying to make highly durable, high performing products. When you try to max out durability products tend to become harder to use. I dont find the ceramic spray difficult though. its all about forming a film with it first. if you do that it cant streak.

[@-Kenneth-9161]

Forensic Detailing Channel tnx for your response. To be more specific. You have to make sure it does not rain when you apply the Ceramic coating spray. If you don’t have an garage, good luck with that with overnight humidity etc. also if you only have 1 car and need to use it, you struggle with this. 2 point you get this transfer to windows, that’s an dust, streak collector. Other sprays on the market you get to use it on the entire car, no cure time and instant protection. My point is, the steps needed to make this work optimal is in many cases not competable with every day life and use of the car. Or should we say, not everyone have 2 cars and an garage.

[@stenblann9784]

Please don't sign the box. Sure to devalue! LOL.

[@Chris_8270]

With the products they offer I still feel turlte wax are falling behind other brands when it comes to choice of products

[@ForensicDetailing]

depends what you mean by falling behind. they sell the most detailing products globally and the gap is getting bigger not smaller. comes down to the point I made about we do not understand what selling car cleaning products is really about (me, you anyone) compared to how TW understand it from doing it for 100 years.

[@flemmingjensen3202]

Let's be honest, the vast majority of car owners just want a clean car and have one or two hours to wash and, maybe, wax it. Then they think "uuh shiny" and all is well. I think that's the key selling points to the masses, fast and shiny. And then there's us, the last 5-10% car nerds. 😉

[@ForensicDetailing]

@@flemmingjensen3202 yer thats it the scene is a very small % of the market. Even this channel is majorly scene focused.

[@flemmingjensen3202]

@@ForensicDetailing I did have that impression, yeah... 😄

[@audiovideotech9777]

Except that none of those Turtle Wax products have any Ceramic in them.

[@ForensicDetailing]

depends what you mean by ceramic. Do you mean, pottery? Sand? Do you mean liquid inorganic silazane. liquid inorganic silazane isnt really ceramic either, its silicon and nitrogen based, and this was just the backbone of most gen 1 coatings. other resins are used now. You can literally call anything ceramic because the term was adopted to coatings because of the silicon element and the fact the coatings were deemed to set like glass. But they are not Silica based either in fact they dont even fall into the SI02 catagory. Coatings are made from speciality resins, there is nothing ceramic about them. The adoption of water miscible forms of Si-material came from the far east and the first few companies that made water based Si sprays also used the same catagorisation (ceramic, si02, quartz, silica) in the various guises of the products. So you have to be consistent if you are upset about TW using the word ceramic or SI02 for water based forms of SI-material then you have to be upset with the whole industry and the people that invented them and brought them to market. Im playing devils advocate because I have also critised companies for calling stuff ceramic. I believe there should be industry standards and "ceramic" should only refer to the speciality resins, we typically buy in glass bottles, which alter their state to a rock hard crystalline like material. but even that definition wouldnt be 100% appropriate.

[@audiovideotech9777]

@@ForensicDetailing Im talking about it not having SiC (Silica Carbide) content. SiO2 is Quartz but not Ceramic but you know that. You are correct, there should be standards but companies are out to make money and capitalize on the coating craze even if they have to falsely market products to uneducated DIY'ers and detailers. Fortunately for me, I've been using coatings since 2007 here in the US and thats I do. Love your videos btw.

[@ForensicDetailing]

@@audiovideotech9777 the vast majority of the first generation ceramic coatings dont have silica carbide in them. Are they not ceramic? Is the definition of a ceramic coating based on it having SiC? that would cause even more chaos.

[@audiovideotech9777]

@@ForensicDetailing true...the vast majority of Coating's are actually just Quartz (Si02 or TiO2 added) and not really Ceramic (SiC) because of Silica Carbide being so expensive.

[@jason0870]

I don't get it, whats with guys having to have foam during a car wash. Lol I guess we all have our preferred method.

[@seaneaves9733]

"ceramic"

[@paulclark1309]

Their spray coating sucks balls! Much easier, better products out there that dont leave you with biceps like swartzenegger! I just got my refund for this pishe

[@s1mpleenigma311]

Which one do you suggest then ? What about seal and shine ?

[@paulclark1309]

@@s1mpleenigma311 Garage Therapy /TWO and /THREE

[@jamest7485]

But... I want biceps like Arnold. Lol

[@chitung2277]

I tried. In my opinion no.

[@simondarrie666]

Be a better video if you used them and shown us the results

[@ForensicDetailing]

like I said at the start, ive already done videos on them and shown you the results...

[@Mark-cw3io]

This line lacks impressive hydrophobicity. No thank you.

[@ForensicDetailing]

that blue bottle rinse wax product has superb hydrophobididity.

[@roscopervis]

Sometimes, that isn't the type of water behaviour you need as it promotes water spotting, particularly in hard water areas. Sheeting products here (like some of these) are more effective.

[@ShadowSmelt]

first like

[@user-tj3cf7se6h]

Watch out for Those's Seagulls .. In - depth as always with The Products . Hope U ain't got a 🚙 outside . 🙂