DID TYLER GET HOOKED?! | Orange County Cup Recap, Paddle Testing Cheating + MLP Waiver Wire Period

Tyler and Jimmy talk about upsets and drama at the PPA Orange County Cup. They also talk about the MLP waiver wire period.
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0:00 Intro
4:58 PPA Orange County Cup Recap
6:10 Men’s Pro Singles Recap
14:16 Women’s Pro Singles Recap
17:40 Mixed Pro Doubles Recap
30:03 Women’s Pro Doubles Recap
37:12 Men’s Pro Doubles Recap
1:04:09 Cheating to Pass Paddle Testing?
1:08:26 MLP Waiver Wire Period
1:15:50 Q&A

[@PBlvr777]

Tyler thanks so much for being so accessible , appreciate talking with you and getting a pic with you and Allyce Jones and yourself!!

[@morekingofthecourt]

You got it! Have a great 4th!

[@williamstevenson755]

Tyler, you played some incredible pickleball in Orange County! I hope that you and James get to team up again as you compliment one another very well. That line call that hosed you in men’s doubles further underscores the need for the PPA to roll out a better replay system/ line call automation. It’s an ongoing eyesore (pun intended) to a league claiming to be the utmost representation of the sport.

[@sorrynotsorrypickleball]

I actually corrected myself and said the ball was in after a new camera angle came out It was as close as it can get tho

[@DinkSmashMedia]

Dang was hoping to get a shout out for pulling the court noise out of that hot mic and sharing it everywhere lol!

[@morekingofthecourt]

Well get you next time!

[@DinkSmashMedia]

@@morekingofthecourt would take a podcast battle in SLC over a shout out 😂

[@jerryshandrew6453]

Did Jimmy ditch the insurance business and start farming full time? How about those farmer tan lines!! Ha 😂

[@dcoffey07]

Megan and Etta have made two finals this year and the last one was the 3rd tournament of the year in Mesa

[@kyleanderwuji6461]

Another great pod! Everytime! Appreciate you guys! Also fun short story.. Went to get a ball that flew into tennis court and hit cobwebs walking through the door to tennis courts.. 😂 what a metaphor 😂

[@Mr.Martini549]

I guaran-damn-tee you if Jimmy ran into any net, including a C&D Net, he’d destroy it.

[@krazieecko]

I mean has anyone ever seen Jimmy run?

[@dcoffey07]

Jimmy - nice call on the Johns upset by H and Pablo

[@lindacarreras7088]

Shout out to Jimmy! Enjoy watching your podcast wz TL and your honest style👍

[@jamesaguirre2537]

CJ needs to get over the net cords and just play. He lets those situations get the best of him and he plays bad. At the pro level, he needs to forget about it, refocus, and play. Or BJ should seriously consider replacing CJ.

[@dcoffey07]

Ben and Colin's last win was in LA, 5 tournaments ago.

[@jorgeferreiro9783]

The Johns brothers say the new Vulcan ball is AWFUL

[@morekingofthecourt]

They do…they’ve also been losing more, I wonder if they would say that if they had similar results with the previous ball?

[@vanadyan1674]

Is there a ball they have liked?

[@TimPlunkett]

Tyler was close, it's rule 12.L.1: "In an event based upon skill rating, the higher-rated player determines the team’s ability level" A 5.0 and a 3.5 *can* play together, but have to play 5.0

[@rukpack]

The venue is beautiful, but the seating is limited, and sitting on cement is uncomfortable. Also, it's not the best venue for vendors with booths surrounding the center court. Due to the limited seating, people who cannot find a seat stand three deep in front of the booths, preventing traffic. A sponsorship opportunity to provide cushions would be nice. Just FYI.

[@ryanpinon564]

I was there HOOKED! for me if is too close it should always be called in.

[@morekingofthecourt]

💯

[@kimleith1378]

Need PIKLR in San Diego. Parking for spectaors is a nightmare at that LIFETIME. JUST GET CAMERAS!!! Grand Stand and Center from quarters on. So testing paddle face temps is gonna become a thing? WAIVER GATE! Tyson & Tyler YES!

[@jjjjpppp123]

Very nice. Thank you.

[@gilbd]

Correction: Haworth beats Staksrud for Gold; Johns beats McGuffin for Bronz.

[@philmeyer2367]

Was at Proton Sports last night. They have a C&D net in their colors.

[@morekingofthecourt]

Yes yes, we love that one!

[@nymetsqwerty]

ya'll didn't even acknowledge the interview - go jimmy miller

[@erb0476]

Nothing is easier to book courts than court reserve app

[@mattherner2060]

Noticed that Tyler has pretty good foot skills on the court. Hacky sack club at college?

[@jackandjose]

Definitely a hook! Don't think it changed outcome of game. You still got next 2 points, momentum and match point.

[@garyanderson4988]

The half the courts in Logan have bad lighting.

[@corinnaburrows3275]

Why are pros putting their paddles in the fridge? What does it do?

[@The_pickleball_fennec]

jw and jorja were up 10-4 😢

[@ADJoshua1]

Haha Ben and Tyson played the bronze match for singles… That’s what happens when comments are based on mainly scores and prior to an event’s completion…

[@philmeyer2367]

They will have Colin "retire" and keep him on the payroll to coach.

[@davegtigard]

Really getting tired of hearing about line calls. Pay for the damn technology and put it to rest. Let's quit the blush league and start acting like a pro league. Time to grow up.

[@Kalamabbfan]

About the balls. I ordered a paddle and they said they were sending Selkirk balls (it was a Selkirk paddle) and when I got them, they said they were out of Selkirk balls and sent me two DuraFast 40's.

[@timmsanford5750]

Tyler, when are you playing a tournament with Riley?

[@morekingofthecourt]

Great question.

[@paulelkins425]

I was courtside for Tyler's R16 against Tyson and Dekel. I was sitting behind the baseline where the controversial call was made. I couldn't tell if it was in or out. It was too close to call from my vantage point. It was an awesome match and it was very unfortunate to have a controversial call play such a big role. It's inexcusable that GS doesn't have a replay system. For the Rd of 16 matches they only used two courts (CC and GS). PPA can't pony up for a replay system, really?!? BTW, you guys failed to mention that the main deciding factor on that call was Pablo Tellez weighing in from the sideline saw it out. He did have a very good view of it since he was standing parallel with the baseline. Tyson didn't see it, Dekel thought it was out but wasn't positive. If Tellez didn't confirm his call I think Dekel and Tyson overturn their call. Great match regardless though.

[@morekingofthecourt]

Thx for adding your observation. Agreed with not having challenge on gs, very bad. We did fail to mention that, also Travis R was there who he claimed it was out, however knowing his public dislike of me, hard to believe what he says. As we said, there were also many that did see it in, I’d still say probably 80% saw ball in…and myself included. Hoping changes are made so the right calls always happen.

[@LavinaThomas]

@@morekingofthecourt why is Travis such a grump and why does he think he's the gatekeeper? I find him unlikeable.

[@evakohutova9477]

it was actually 10:4

[@Kirk.television]

Let's go!

[@rickrzendzian2228]

I was at San Clemente, agree that level of play is getting more parity, competitive. All levels except women singles. ALW is just widening her level against everyone else. She is just a beast, needs to play with the men.

[@bucklau3933]

Where’s Jimmy’s neck?

[@chadlecates2742]

Wow Jimmy. Awful predictions on men's gold and bronze singles matches 😆

[@chadlecates2742]

Granted, I thought Ben would withdraw

[@lanesmith5598]

I think Ben and Collin would start dominating again if Collin would change his mentality of being only defensive and relying on Ben for all offense. Dylan is the best right side player because he is not only defensive but aggressive offensively. Collin has trained to not be offensive and let Ben do it all. The level of play is too good to continue that strategy. There are so many balls that Dylan would have crushed that Collin just resets. Collin has the skill to be aggressive, now he needs the will and the nod of approval from Ben to actually be aggressive.

[@chrispaulsen5746]

JW and Jorja were up 10-4 on Ben and ALW

[@roman2011]

That was painful and frustrating to watch during the comeback. I wanted them to win so bad just to see new champs. Definitely a choke they were so overwhelmed they forgot to use their time outs.

[@chrispaulsen5746]

@@roman2011 they took one at 10-6, but ya probably should've taken one at 10-10 too

[@brainsurgerydropout]

jimmy 🐐

[@morekingofthecourt]

Wow wow wow. Thanks thanks! ❤️❤️❤️

[@plumbedout7282]

Hey guys you were singing the praises of the 1st gen Vulcan ball. When there were a lot of complaints. Now you sing the praises of the 2nd Gen ball and acknowledge there were problems with 1st gen.

[@morekingofthecourt]

What did we say back then? That it was the official ball of the PPA Tour and MLP? That we love the color? I don’t recall saying it’s perfect, in fact I’ve always said every ball is imperfect, even this current gen2 ball. The main complaint with gen 1 was that it got out of round, this new gen 2 ball, seems to have improved significantly on that.

[@lanesmith5598]

There's no way Ryan beats AL

[@middaySquare]

Tyler. Why did you not change up any strategy against Tom. Looked like you gave up or knew you couldn’t do anything different. You did nothing after that second game.

[@morekingofthecourt]

Against who?

[@sarahdaly516]

Love you guys! But Tyler's throat clearing is concerning.... Please go get the checked out

[@carlhillier2301]

It amazes me that you are now just realizing that the right side player should be aggressive. There have always been 2 sides of the court so why would you ever think that only one side can be aggressive. Just like a couple of years ago everyone said you shouldn't lob, well everyone's lobbing now. Don't have the mindset of absolutes , keep an open mind and your game will keep moving forward.

[@JimmyMiller_PB]

Because Ben and Collin have won a million titles with Collin not being aggressive. So everyone was emulating a winner.

[@larrykonis967]

Storing a paddle in a climate controlled cabinet does not seem like cheating.

[@MichaelPickleball]

Guys, I'm yawning during this show. You should display video of plays rather than covering contracts for so long. This reminds me of having to sit through history class.

[@thirtydayjeff]

It’s crazy everyone’s getting leaner and it’s like Jimmy’s taking their weight and putting it on. Maybe it’s just the camera that had 50 pounds.

[@jasonpeery]

Not true, clearly he's losing weight

[@caseyclancey3308]

Women’s doubles is boring compared to men’s. Men’s is way more fun to watch and I would have never thought I’d say that year or 2 ago.