The Majin boosts allowed Spopovich to survive Videl snapping his neck 180 degrees. If Vegeta doesn't have that ability after losing the Majin mark, then I think it's unlikely that he kept the boost. He even lost his unnaturally veiny appearance.
@danielhenry4365 Жыл бұрын
Good point. And didn't SS2 Vegeta have a much inferior performance vs Kid Buu, than SS2 Goku did? That would make sense if so... since Vegeta needed Majin just to equal Goku's SS2.
@rjb4031 Жыл бұрын
The goku ss2 portion of that fight was filler. Plus kid buu was warming up regardless, it'd be hard for someone that's been fighting ss3 to go back down to 2 and not make it look like a joke. If we go by cells logic, or supers God logic,if a saiyan gets a taste of a higher power level, they seem to retain some of it afterward. The Veiny juiced appearance was most likely due to how roided out the spell and the situation made him, he was at full power and piiiiissseeed off at that point.
@HectorGarfria Жыл бұрын
That took you 45 mins to read? You got bigger problems
@antoniop5739 Жыл бұрын
@@HectorGarfriaright lmao
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
It is obvious that he lost it permanantly after dying.
@bulldawg986 Жыл бұрын
4:25 The blow was so huge to his pride that the guy had to put on sleeves in the next panel
@giodawg45 Жыл бұрын
I believe he kept the power attained from it. Babidi brought out his hidden potential. His Saiyan biology just grew accustomed to the power and it became his normal after death and when given back his body.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
It dosen't seem like the majin power was kept in afterworld,( besides the obvious physical loss like the m on forehead,the veiny muscles or that mascara he seemed to have on his eyes😂),kid buu beat him easier than fat buu did,if he had majin power it would be a bit more even and less one sided but kid buu would win still inevitably.
@Mikey04251 Жыл бұрын
@@justinarzola4584kid buu may not be stronger then buuhan, but he is stronger vs base super buu, who was said to be stronger then fat buu
@OverRule1 Жыл бұрын
@@Mikey04251 Fat Buu when vs Majin Vegeta is stronger than the Fat Buu that versed Kid Buu because he wasn't separated. Kid Buu is about the same power as the second Fat Buu on supreme Kai's planet however what made Kid Buu so deadly is his super fast regeneration since he is in his original pure state and that's why he was able to even beat Super Saiyan 3 Goku who was stronger than Kid Buu but lost since Goku's SSJ3 drains him quickly and Kid Buu can regenerate instantly without losing any health or stamina no matter how many times you blast him to nothing. Also the only thing that could have killed Kid Buu was another Majin or the spirit bomb which damages beings the more evil they are and since Buu is 100% evil the spirit bomb would destroy his powerful evil magic regeneration
@Mikey04251 Жыл бұрын
@@OverRule1 i wasnt talking about fat buu vs kid buu because its literally said that super buu, is stronger then fat buu, and kid buu is stronger then super buu (not buutenks or buuhan tho)
@jpdicey789 Жыл бұрын
@@Mikey04251I share this view when it comes to the manga, but in the anime there are apparently a couple of remarks by Goku and the narrator in the original before dubbing that suggests that Kid Boo is the strongest Boo! But it really depends on which you take as source material or whether or not you think the anime sufficiently expands upon source material! Goku's fight with Bootenks as an SSJ3 and teaming up with Vegeta as an SSJ2 against Boohan and base Super Boo's mini avatar inside his head didn't happen in the manga! They also never fought or encountered round worms in Boo's body or fake Z-fighters in his head that the Daizenshuu said were comparable to the real thing in power (though I believe in shrunken down less than a hundredth of size and power state like Goku and Vegeta were while inside Boo). That being said though I would still say in the anime enraged Boohan was stronger than Kid Boo, since Super Vegetto struggled to break through his defenses! But Boohan enraged state isn't the norm for Boo's power, so Kid Boo can still be argued stronger! The other thing is that the Buff Boo form Kid Boo got absorbing South Supreme Kai might be stronger than Kid Boo, since in the source material it was stated by Kibitoshin that it was only after absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai that Boo got weaker!
@Viroh Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how you came back and now have a really nice catalogue of videos dude, Dragon Ball was the first complete manga series me and my bro got when we were like 5-7 years old, and I kept reading it again and again. The series has a really good flow, but I haven't read it again for ages now. Listening to your takes is more interesting. Cheers
@shephardburnout3 Жыл бұрын
He definitly did, he managed to piss off Kid Buu for a while (if he didn't got his majin power boost he would've gotten smacked from the start against him when Goku was gathering ki in his SSJ3 state)
@lightyoshiman Жыл бұрын
Didn't buu put him down instantly in the manga?
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta got man handled by Buu he definitely didn't keep the majin boost
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@Bejitajap he was getting toyed with and in the manga got folded instantly
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@Bejitajap he had a dead body which is naturally more durable
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@Bejitajap hercule survived a blow "Hercule" and ss2 Goku put up a much better fight against Buu then Vegeta did who was even with majin Vegeta
@TheZephyrsWind Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. It's amazing that you're able to put out unique videos on a regular basis after all this time! I doubt I could, to be honest! That's a testament to your creative mind if you ask me. Note: Ya goofed, that was Lot's wife, but the comparison you made between Vegeta and her was somewhat poetic.
@Champ1988 Жыл бұрын
At 7:15 you were going into a beautiful analogy about how Vegeta's fate was similar to that of a person named in the Bible. I just want to correct you - it was Lot's wife. And she turned into a pillar of salt. Genesis 19:26 states: "But his (Lot's) wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt (KJV)." Just wanted to clarify. Great video!
@Pauzix Жыл бұрын
Mike you are like machine! 2 videos in 1 day?
@nicodemusedwards6931 Жыл бұрын
I mean… I can’t see why Vegeta would keep the boost after he died, since he no longer has the Majin Mark. However, Saiyan Biology is extremely weird, so it’s entirely possible that he did keep the boost.
@HauntedStopwatch Жыл бұрын
Well i think he did keep the majin boost in the form of a zenkai
@RockdownPlus Жыл бұрын
Wasn't really a boost. His internal power potential was accessed. After death, he retained the ability to access that power.
@shaynelewis1587 Жыл бұрын
Maybe just a massive zenkai boost?
@josiahcombellick8559 Жыл бұрын
I watch your videos while driving for work if it was posted an hour sooner I could have been able to see it on maybe before I was done with work but no matter what keep up the great work love your videos Edit: I don’t watch them but I put a few in a playlist and listen to them
@WhaleFuego Жыл бұрын
The epic topics you come up with!!!! I just wanna say thank you its so dope how you doing these videos its different definitely 🔥💯
@dud_of_man Жыл бұрын
Vegeta has torn up sleeves in the top panel around 4:35, very strange seeing him in the full body suit but no armor lol.
@Magikarp-4ever2 ай бұрын
The "everytime a Saiyan almost dies" turning into "Well only sometimes and doesn't apply if you get beat by a washing machine" lol
@jordanwendt1825 Жыл бұрын
Looking good Mike ! I hope you get a million subs ❤
@mainboysmusic6985 Жыл бұрын
I love it when you do these analysis videos solo, you cover all your bases this way. Collaborations gives an extra voice in your content that may or may not be as good as your level of analysis. But collaborations are more fun for you, which is what matters. Still, as a spoiled viewer, of course I'm gonna want quality over your enjoyment because it's more enjoyable for me😅
@LSMMIKE Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support. Whenever I do collabs it’s typically for a topic I think is best reserved for one. As a result, there is no alternative solo video that would have been made. Or, in my estimation the video ends up being better than one I would have made on my own. Sometimes, I come up with topics just because I think it would be fun to do a collaboration with another channel. Like my dual series with Geekdom101 where we compare movies and arcs. Personally, I think recent videos such as my collab with Blackenfist “Why The Androids Didn’t Obey Doctor Gero” are far more insightful than if I had done that topic on its own because of the interesting perspective Juan supplied. Just as my upcoming video about Gravity Training will be with another channel I finally had the pleasure of working with. But, I appreciate that you and many others enjoy or even prefer my solo content. It’s interesting to me which videos people tend to prefer, since often times my perception and standards appear to be quite different from the audience.
@mainboysmusic6985 Жыл бұрын
@@LSMMIKE Ooh okay, I see now. Thank you for your response!
@ramaziotivegito6853 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I always believed Vegeta did keep the power Babidi unlocked for him just like Gohan in Namek. But considering how strong each Buu was, it ended up just been pointless. But if Vegeta had somehow reached SS3 at some point now that would be a whole other story. How about a new What if (it's not Vegeta related but I still like it) What if Dende had been more proactive during Cell and Buu saga? And yes proactive meaning he plays Healer for everyone. I am pretty sure a healed Trunks after getting a hole in his chest and SS2 Gohan getting his arm healed would have obliterated super Perfect Cell in a blink.
@Kenjitsuka Жыл бұрын
Another awesome topic! :)
@rrose9161 Жыл бұрын
Even though it's easy to overlook it was stated by trunks that gohan is just a smidgen stronger than ssj3 gotenks so it can be argued that ultimate/mystic gohan is roughly equal to ssj3 gotenks ( making goku's and vegeta's anime feat against clone ultimate gohan and clone ssj3 gotenks respectively could be seen as being basically the same feat for ssj goku and vegeta)
@EckerKyle Жыл бұрын
I thought watching in the first hour meant i had no life lol
@NickMorrison78 Жыл бұрын
I believe Vegeta kept the added strength, but not the capability.
@williamcatala154 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Mike. Funnily enough, I have that exact same shirt that you’re wearing.
@theking8347 Жыл бұрын
IIRC Toriyama said that "zenkai" boosts (the boosts Saiyans get from near-death experiences or struggling in battle) were still a thing after the Namek Saga, it's just at that point, everyone is so strong that the boosts are negligible, too small to make any difference.
@rich355 Жыл бұрын
Toriyama's statements are often inconsistent though. We saw throughout the Future Trunks Arc that Goku Black repeatedly exploited the zenkai boost to get stronger.
@frankcasamento74 Жыл бұрын
dont ever trust the guy who forgot what ssj2 was
@imjustadog1897 Жыл бұрын
If Vegeta was even with Goku’s ss2 power, he kept his body in the afterlife, and he was aware of Goku’s ss3, he should’ve been capable of going ss3 even if he was less experienced with the form.
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
No cause he wasn't even with ss2 Goku he needed the majin boost to be equal
@imjustadog1897 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I meant after the majin boost.
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
He couldn’t even go SSJ2 before the boost, so there’s no way he would’ve been able to achieve SSJ3
@imjustadog1897 Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoir Where are people getting that Vegeta achieved ss2 after his majin boost? He had the transformation and he already knew how to access it.
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
@@imjustadog1897 He never accessed it prior to getting taken over. If he already had it, the boost would’ve allowed him to go SSJ3.
@shanewright344 Жыл бұрын
DUDE! I've been asking this question for a loooong time
@paulhiggins6433 Жыл бұрын
We've seen the bodies of Sayians (and Cell), remember the power level of temporary forms before, and later access it or retain a large portion of it. I would be willing to say that Vegeta retained part of the power in the form of a zenkai boost, but was easily able to reach the same level again fairly easily thanks to the sayian biology. He did however lose a good portion of the durability that the Majin form would have given him, as the magic of Babadi is gone.
@elijahwatjen9839 Жыл бұрын
His durability would've been ridiculous if he had the halo and the majin boost
@paulhiggins6433 Жыл бұрын
@@elijahwatjen9839 no kidding. That would have been near Cell level, minus the generation. And we never saw one of Babadi's lackies get an amputation, so it's entirely possible the magic would have dealt with that too. Literally every kill of someone with a Majin mark was blown up or eaten whole.
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
Does majin even count as a form seems more like a power up to me like the kaioken
@paulhiggins6433 Жыл бұрын
@@kristianschuff1723 it's not like that Kaio-ken, as it's not something that can be turned on and off. It's definitely caused by a technique, yet it causes physical transformations. For Spopovich, he lost his hair and got twice as much visible muscle mass. Everyone under Babadi's control also had the Majin mark on them as something akin to a tattoo. I would call it a transformation, though a forced one.
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhiggins6433 we don't know that Buu as far as I know wasn't under the majin boost (no M on forehead) and the only other person we saw resist Babidi was Vegeta who babidi was so confident in buu's victory that he may very well have forgotten to turn it off
@wititorac Жыл бұрын
Wait, people actually argue wether Vegito was a SSJ2 vs Buuhan? Doesn’t pretty much every piece of media imply he was just a super saiyan?
@RealJuiceWrld6 ай бұрын
Nobody argues it. This channel is just run by a improperly socialized hack.
@newhybrid101 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt that big of a boost,the mark unlocks potential you have at that moment,its not a stationary boost for everyone. I also think its fair cause Goku had the advantage of training in the Otherworld. As for keeping it i dont think he did,in the ANIME however it is stated in a Toei guide that he had a Zenkai upon being revived,which propably put him back at his Majin level
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know allowing you to survive getting your neck snapped was unlocking your hidden potential Vegeta has the gravity room and time chamber to go too as well
@newhybrid101 Жыл бұрын
@@kristianschuff1723 He did not use the time chamber from what we know,the gravity room isn't that special after the android arc,its pretty much just a normal gym for him. In the Otherworld you never get tired,your body can take more,you dont need to eat etc and Goku had MANY people to train with and teachers to learn from In the Cell Games Goku had stated that he was already near his full potential,but absorbing god ki unlocked a whole new world for him. The Otherworld allowed him to get much stronger and achieve SSJ3,all due to his dead body advantages. Thats the difference between a low class saiyan and a super elite,Vegeta is naturally superior but Goku gets more advantages,more teachers,trained more,more training partners,more emotions that help him with transformations and overall a better mentality that helps with growth. But Vegeta is genetically superior and has more potential but his attitude cost him a lot of growth. He didnt need a dead body or god ki to get much stronger than Cell Games Goku
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
@@newhybrid101 we don't if he did or didn't it was a 7 year time skip just as we don't know what the other world training was assuming the Grand Kai ever got around to actually training him
@TurrettiniPizza Жыл бұрын
*Lot’s wife. (Not Saul)
@jayswindonley1128 Жыл бұрын
Nice One🎉 I believe he did retain it without the Majin Mark
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and i agree! I always believed that vegeta kept it!
@tolkienblack Жыл бұрын
The same way goku kinda kept the god ki when they did the ritual. He just adapted into his own power
@dereckkessler Жыл бұрын
The uploads lately have gone even further beyond
@sunnyraoul Жыл бұрын
The problem with the majin boost is not that his energy was drawn out, but that Vegeta was not holding back a single bit when he ''became evil'' basically It is similar to Gohan, who has a lot of hidden potential that he simply cannot use because he is too soft Vegeta, he also has that a little bit of his soft side, which he even admitted while fighting Goku I can just imagine that Vegeta suddenly let it all out with no holding back whatsover, which is why Vegeta might've said that Goku is still stronger than him, because he was holding back and didn't really want to fight Vegeta (I mean he has SSJ3, doesnt he?) Im sure he kept all of the power boost he got, it's just that he isn't able to rage and not hold back the same way he did when he was still in his majin state
@donovanbradford8231 Жыл бұрын
I want to say he did or at the very least kept the power he got from the majin boost, because in later lore when Goku fought Beerus and went super sayian god fron a ritual but the ritual wore off Goku was still able to tap into that power because he had experienced it before. Almost like a weight lifter that hits a new high they can do it again after the fact. So maybe Vegeta got a boost but more than likely he still had a similar level of power otherwise Goku wouldn't have thought the fusion would have worked because the fighters have to be of similar power for the fusion to truly work and you create a stronger fighter.
@donaldo141194 Жыл бұрын
4:30 what happened to Vegeta's clothes? I thought those kind of erros were exclusive to animation
@danielsantiagourtado3430 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Mike! They always make my day! Keep up the great work 😊😊😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@blaketindle4703 Жыл бұрын
I always figured his Saiyan body retained the power.
@justinarzola4584 Жыл бұрын
I doubt sayain biology could retain something supernatural like the majin magic.
@paulneligh5095 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how self destruction works. Like the saibamen self destructed but Yamchas body didn't also blow up but he died? Vegeta I guess turns into a dust version of himself after he does it? Chiaotzu and Cell blow up the way you'd expect, although in Cells case it actually does vaporize everyone around him.
@DefinitelyAGoodGuy Жыл бұрын
Maybe because of the Majin durability magic he turned to stone. Spopovich had his neck snapped which should have killed him. Perhaps his self destruct caused a disruption in the magical durability.
@DefinitelyAGoodGuy Жыл бұрын
Saibamen were like Cell Jr's. Think mini bombs. If you got hit by a small kamehama or final flash.
@paulneligh5095 Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyAGoodGuy now that I'm thinking about it the ghosts of the ghost kamikaze attack sort of self destruct also. There are a ton of examples of it when you think about it lol
@makisbizarreadventure4669 Жыл бұрын
Majin boost seems to almost make you zombie like with the beating you can take. Spopovich or w/e his names neck being broken. Vegeta taking constant blows but getting back up vs Buu and Goku. It’s almost like it also gives you pain resistance aswell. He certainly didn’t have that vs Kid Buu.
@joshghz Жыл бұрын
7:08 - *Lot's wife Neither notable Saul in the Bible would be born for several centuries after that.
@bigrob8517 Жыл бұрын
People need to understand that zenkai boosts are from near death experiences. Vegeta killing himself does not fit that criteria, obviously. Saying that he kept the majin boost is very, very unlikely. There is literally no in context evidence or statements that prove he does. It's a boost from babadi, signified by his insignia that can turn a character that hercule can beat to being able to survive his head being spun around 180 by videl. It also obviously gave all of babadi's minions a significant boost in power from the contrxt of the manga. Revived vegeta is most likely weaker than majin vegeta, somewhere between ssj2 gohan and majin vegeta. His feats vs kid buu is very debatable, kid buu is such a difficult character to judge in terms of how hard it is really trying. He could have gone into that scenario 10 different times and not lasted 10 seconds, depending on how kid buu played it. Vegeta also underestimates opponents in almost every single fight he is in, his confidence against kid buu is not surprising honestly and he clearly stands no chance against him in a one on one scenario. I think it's a strange conclusion to tell you're audience that he most likely kept that significant of a boost without proper evidence.
@elijahwatjen9839 Жыл бұрын
Cell got stronger after blowing himself up, I think this is fair, not to mention fat buu almost killed him moments earlier, and in super saiyans retain a large portion of the power they get from temporary forms
@bigrob8517 Жыл бұрын
@elijahwatjen9839 cell got stronger from a near death experience, not from an experience where he actually dies. Fat buu does almost kill him, but there is no implication that it made him any stronger. They always have to be healed first. I feel like the best description for a zenkai boost would be someone in real life doing bicep curls to the absolute limit and recovering to gain muscles from the process, but if you go too far and tear the muscle while working out (die in dbz) then you aren't going to make a gain from that.
@mike0133 Жыл бұрын
@@elijahwatjen9839after the explosion Cell was still alive, his last body's cell survived while Vegeta d13d completely.
@luCid.the.book. Жыл бұрын
Unrelated but the scene with the mini buus surrounding piccolo always scares me. I'm like GTF OUTA HERE MY GUY!!!!!!
@drowning.macaco Жыл бұрын
you be looking sick with those hair
@sirsir9665 Жыл бұрын
Since Super Buu was absorbing so many good hearted fighters, Gohan, the boys and Piccolo I wonder if and or why it didn't influence him as the Kais did. Surely Gohan has a heart as kind and innocent as the Supreme Kai?
@SuperLuigi1025 Жыл бұрын
4:38 I just noticed that Vegeta's arm is blue.
@cosmosofinfinity Жыл бұрын
Babidi unlocked Vegeta's power, and then Vegeta wiped the M off his head. Babidi's active magic wasn't the power unlock, but the mind control
@Magikarp-4ever2 ай бұрын
@cosmosofinfinity damn.... Good point thx
@tobig.1765 Жыл бұрын
The boost has multiple effects like unlocking latent potential and increased survivability and enslavement. The last two have gone. We habe to see spoppovitch again to tell for sure
@ancientking224 Жыл бұрын
I think I sort of agree with this. I definitely think Vegeta kept things like the physical power obtained from the Mark along with whatever of his potential had been awakened but lost the Marks unique properties like surviving lethal attacks.
@rashadbeckham7141 Жыл бұрын
I was always wondering that.
@nostalgiaverse9892 Жыл бұрын
A more interesting question is did Spopovitch & Yamu keep the boost? When they get wished back to life do they just forget all that knowledge of Ki too like flying & shooting Ki blasts?
@KDAaron14 Жыл бұрын
You hear that? I’m a hero.
@MrKunecke Жыл бұрын
7:11 Saul's wife? You mean Lot's wife. And she turned to salt. Lol. 😂
@DarkSayian91 Жыл бұрын
I say yes that his body adapted to and kept the power. Like Cell regaining his perfect form even without 18 and Goku keeping the god power being able to fight Beerus as a regular Super Saiyan.
@abominationdesolation8322 Жыл бұрын
No, he actually got stronger when he lost it.
@vnep5743 Жыл бұрын
Well. So when vegeta went super saiyan during babidi's spell, I just assumed it was him fighting it. But it was maybe a result of vegeta's power being released?
@ghostwriter1440 Жыл бұрын
I never gave that one much thought. Though now that you mention it I’d lean toward the notion of vegeta losing the Majin boost but perhaps the loss of the majin boost would largely be offset by the zenki boost he would have received upon having his wounds healed in the afterlife perhaps? I can’t imagine vegeta being weaker after the fact.
@ghostwriter1440 Жыл бұрын
Reasonable but would you agree that vegeta does not seem weaker when he came back to life than he did when he went up against fat buu?
@tonyshane8842 Жыл бұрын
A good video would be if you have 4 characters 2 finger fuse and other 2 finger fuse could the 2 beings then finger fuse together or use the earings to fuse? Always wonder that
@VGamingJunkieVT Жыл бұрын
You know, Vegeta becoming a frail statue makes a lot more sense if, like me, you're a fan of the Metroid series. Much like Vegeta, they become a dried husk that easily turns to ash on touch. I thought maybe the fall cemented his death, but nope, he burned his life energy and died.
@ididntaskverified3663 Жыл бұрын
When will laughingstock get jacked
@kimitachi22 Жыл бұрын
it's hard to say if vegeta kept his boost or not but it is possible that he kept to the extent that after the control of babidi, vegeta resisted babidi and remained free to fight against goku then fat buu so we can say that despite the loss of control of babidi, vegeta kept his power up against fat buu and that once he died and then returned, it is possible that this new power up remained in his body but it's not sure because we don't know how babidi magic work however this story of death zenkai does not make sense, nothing in the manga shows that a sayen becomes stronger after his death, it would not even make sense, zenkai is a mechanism that makes sayen stronger if he manages to survive and they are close to death, it is a mechanism that makes him become stronger when they face great danger but this mechanism can not take into account the resurrection, when you are dead, you are supposed to stay dead only dragon balls, a mystical power that goes far beyond the race of sayen, can resuscitate the only thing we know is that zenkai is to be stronger after surviving a state close to death and that zenkai has been more or less abandoned by toryama since the end of the namek arc people should stop talking about zenkai death as if zenkai knew about dragon balls, zenkai exists precisely because it is supposed to give a boost for a sayen close to death, if he dies it's game over
@clintwoods9995 Жыл бұрын
Is maron, krill dog (human) and 18(cyborg) baby only half human, and/or does she have infinite energy like 18???
@bprangerz5088 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered if he did because I was watching the kid buu fight at the end and questioned if vegeta was using all he had or was he reset to before the Majin mark
@SS4Moogle Жыл бұрын
Since he had the boost at the time of death, wouldn’t he have received another boost on top of it when he was revived?
@pikichugo Жыл бұрын
Mike... If Ssj2M Vegeta could do that much damage against Majin Buu... What what do you think 4x that would do?...
@ianhadlock2405 Жыл бұрын
Vegetas technique...
@zanzax6438 Жыл бұрын
0:54 hey, I watched it within the first hour! Woo hoo
@runin12 Жыл бұрын
The majin mark is a potential unlock so he did keep it
@lightyoshiman Жыл бұрын
Honestly hard to tell the end of the Buu arc was just a cluster that's why we have the Gohan vs SSJ 3 Goku discussion to this day I doubt even toriyama knows or care
@yvonnecox7534 Жыл бұрын
yes akira does know if look at the manga he gives us some clues to a person strength level you just have to use some common sense to figure it out it was really dragon ball gt and dragon ball super that some power scaleing goes out the window
@yvonnecox7534 Жыл бұрын
if this helps this is kinda the power scaling in the buu saga vegeto>buuhan>gotenks buu>piccolo buu=>buff buu>gohan>gotenks>super buu>super sayian three goku>cocoon fat buu=>kid buu>evil skinny buu>good fat buu>vegeta>dabura>piccolo=>supreme kai>yakoon>pu pu
@xlro8f853 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta boxing Gotenks is absurd, it was just a magical organ ghost, Vegeta prabably focused on defense, coupled with an already dead body. Idk tho.
@ElKabong3345 Жыл бұрын
He kept the boost, because it was a creative decision to make Goku and Vegeta equal prehand. The original roughdraft was going to have Goku and Vegeta fuse in the afterlife since they had about equal ki That's why Toriyama made Vegeta die too.
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@mymouseaintbroken Жыл бұрын
4:30 animation error
@crackball22 Жыл бұрын
It says upload time 1h ago so I'm gonna take that 😎
@jewilliams13jw9 ай бұрын
Most likely not seeing how bad kid Buu was dragging him
@jiggycalzone85856 ай бұрын
Probably lost it but the revival zenkai would make up for it and then some
@rogersanchez8872 Жыл бұрын
Lots wife, neat animals application
@frankcasamento74 Жыл бұрын
the zenkai makes more sense considering the massive damage vegeta took during the final explosion and then having his body healed and preserved by yamma.
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
You don’t get Zenkais from death
@frankcasamento74 Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoiridk where you got that idea but they get them when their body takes massive damage then gets healed like yamma did for Vegeta
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
@@frankcasamento74 From the guy who made the series.
@frankcasamento74 Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoir never take anything toriyama says seriously because he forgets everything. He couldn't even remember that there was a ssj2
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
@@frankcasamento74 This is not a case of forgetting.
@TheLonelySoulja Жыл бұрын
Would Kid Buu be weaker than Majin Buu because the Kai’s are gone from the body
@Citizen_Nappa23 Жыл бұрын
I've always saw it as biological armor, the body learns and adapts from the experience. So logically it's an acceptable theory that they can receive Zenkai boosts after they are revived and their body is returned the the physical realm.
@mike0133 Жыл бұрын
If zenkai was still a thing during the later sagas, coming back from the afterlife doesn't count as a zenkai because it isn't a survival from a near dead experience, but it is a dead, you should be naturally alive to get zenkai, and not turning back to life thanks to external factors. Honestly, it's never been a question I've asked myself. Vegeta doesn't retain the Majin boost.
@salvatoreocello Жыл бұрын
Quick answer 0:15 “Yee yee”
@Est_1.997 Жыл бұрын
Vegeta did decent against fat buu but his fight really shows the huge Gap between ssj2 & ssj3 > you need ssj2 bare minimum just to “play” with buu
@Jim_Lahey101 Жыл бұрын
I believe Vegeta did or else he would have been so severely outclassed by even a SSJ2 Goku around the Kid Buu fight, that it would have been completely pointless for him to have even attempt to fight Kid Buu.
@kristianschuff1723 Жыл бұрын
He was stalling and was outclassed considered Buu was going even with ss3 goku
@elijahwatjen9839 Жыл бұрын
He would've been destroyed like fat buu did gohan
@DefinitelyAGoodGuy Жыл бұрын
He kept the potential unlock but lost the Majin durability. Unrelated, all the minions with a Majin boost get a form of durability like Majin Buu.
@marcusfrazier4923 Жыл бұрын
I don't think so. Majin Buu even called him on it when he was revived.
@blowinback_4209 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he kept it once the power was released can't put it back in the bag lol
@barrington93829 ай бұрын
I can’t agree with that he kept the boots but not the magic that goes with it remember he was never fully under his control
@elpopman2055 Жыл бұрын
Laughingstock Media... In your opinion, how powerful Gohan would become if actually train for 7 Years.. Realistically He should of Trained. There is no reason that she would prevent Gohan from training.. As a reasonable woman, she would allow him to train As long as he keeps up his studies... I'm just saying that with the training, I'm just pointing out that if he's going to have the ultimate form that he should at least be Worthy and Show Hints That he still has a lot of dormant power in him before He obtains the ultimate form.
@Thromaz Жыл бұрын
Still good.
@jdrmanmusiqking Жыл бұрын
Im going to type this here because the other video is 4 years old but its obvious that only certain energies can defeat Buu and the Spirit Bomb was the only technique Goku had that could do it. Reasons Why: (Keep read for the best evidence. I'm saving that for last) **Disclaimer! : NOTHING IN SUPER IS VALID HERE. Super came 10years later and has completely different logic. Jiren dont exist *** 1. Watch the first 5 minutes of Laughingstock's video breaking down the lore of the spirit bomb and how it seeks evil 2. Buu was ATOMIZED many times (waaaay worse than Cell) and still regeneration. Power of the move had no effect on his regen. 3. God Ki and demon energy can kill Buu this can explain why Buu IMMEDIATELY went to run Dabura's fade (although Dab was still to weak to do anything regardless of type advantage). Supreme Kai did the best against Fat Buu despite being weaker than everyone there. Ultimate Gohan, who HAD God Ki until Super destroyed everything, was the only one who could do longterm physical damage to Buu 4 (BEST EVIDENCE): While fighting Kid Buu, Goku obliterated him many times and it did nothing. But when he spit out fat Buu and they started fighting, Vegeta said something VERY important: "Kakarot LOOK! The 2 Buus are damaging each other and their energies are decreasing!". Then, after crunching the numbers for a second, Vegeta IMMEDIATELY suggest that Goku uses the Spirit Bomb. #4 By itself is really enough but when combined with the other 3 reasons, its a clear cut 100% certainty that the Spirit Bomb was the only thing GOKU or VEGETA couldve done to defeat Buu
@jimjoebob12 Жыл бұрын
Wait, imma real hero?!?
@Quitt_Chan Жыл бұрын
In my opinion majin vegita goes completely against what vegita stands for. He would consider this cheating
@gumpyflyale25423 ай бұрын
Just being dead gave vegeta a power boost
@eranshachar9954 Жыл бұрын
I believe he kept his power after death if not stronger and his Majin abilities. You made me laugh about something Mike- You said that both Kakarrot and Bejita are small when they are mocking Kid Boo. What are you talking about? Kakarrot isn't small. Bejita is small and he is about the same highet as me in real life if he was real. I just wonder how tall is the freaking hair, it looks like between 20-30 cm of hair.
@tk3828 Жыл бұрын
I'd say no. So ss2 goku vs kid buu was stronger than ss2 vegeta. Vegeta likely already knew this otherwise he would've challenged goku at his standard ss2 form
@Sideqazxsw Жыл бұрын
It wasn't Saul's wife who was turned into salt; it was Lot's wife who was turned into salt. Lot, his wife, and their two daughters were visited by 2 heavenly messengers who warned them that the city in which they resided, Sodom, would be completely annihilated by Jehovah. As they fled while Sodom was being deatomized, Lot's wife disobeyed the angels' command to not look back and was turned into a pillar of salt.
@mykol17 Жыл бұрын
So far we see that whenever someone gains a large amount of energy from a transformation and then loses it the transformation, an advanced martial artist's body is able to rememeber the power and is then to utilize it in battle. We first saw this with Cell retaining his perfect form after blowing himaelf up, then we saw it with Vegeta and his Majin potential unlock after blowing himself up, then we saw it with Goku mainting his god power after losing the super saiyan god transformation against Beerus.
@DRGN-TYPE Жыл бұрын
I dont think Spovovitch or Yamu kept their boost, but I think due to saiyan biology, he keeps the power-up.
@mannyswift Жыл бұрын
I think vegeta lost the majin boost after. Vegeta trained hard for 7 years so he was already somewhat strong