Did we NEED Gears of War: Judgement...

Much like the Gears fanbase, I find myself in a love/hate relationship with the game.
People like when there are changes to their games to keep things fresh, but its the kind of change that matters...
Do I think Gears judgement is a terrible game? Ehh no I wont say terrible, but its hard for me to say it was a great game either cause it really could have done alot more..
If you liked this video, be sure to check out the others if you havent seen them yet! And stay tuned for Gears 4..
0:00 - Intro
2:07 - Gameplay changes
5:54 - New stuff
23:31 - Story
54:01 - Aftermath
1:01:45 - Conclusion

[@willmelvin2351]

Still working on audio setup, dont have a consistent mic yet, but hopefully the sound quality is better than it was before lol.

[@coletrainhetrick]

Really good, I think the sound mixing is a tad quiet. I like to listen to these videos in a really loud factory and being able to Max out the volume is crucial. But that's a me problem, really great and consistent in my opinion.

[@markus5237]

What mic are you using? Kind of sounds like my yeti x.

[@ChemistForHire]

If this was just a massive 40$ DLC or even 60$ DLC for Gears 3, I don’t think anyone would’ve complained especially if it was marketed as a DLC, but the fact is was marketed as a fully fledged out and complete game is the issue. If it was a Gears 3 DLC that added Overrun, FFA, Judgement story and Aftermath, as well as the handful of maps that judgement had it would’ve been amazing. Gears 3 would be like one of the greatest games ever without a doubt. Such a missed opportunity. The lack of characters, locust faction, maps, and game modes on judgement all show that it should’ve been a massive DLC for Gears 3.

[@THEchosenDIN]

I thought Paduk implied Sofia was kidnapped by COG. Since he only “killed one of them” and the cog tags is what he dropped.

[@Enzo_honey]

Yeah same lol

[@skullyinc.]

She was. I don't know how this guy missed that.

[@chad.chester7876]

She was kidnapped by the cog and is still alive but we don’t know where she’s at or why they took her.

[@riverking8258]

Xbox not releasing a Marcus Fenix collection is a crime

[@shawnjackson3764]

They probably don't know how to monetize it post release.

[@NomadMonkey396]

If Microsoft want easy money they should release fable 2 and gears of war 1 to judgement on pc.

[@TheUnplanted]

That Digger with a D joke kills me every time💀

[@sirsurgenor]

Given that the person Paduck shot dropped cog tags, I'm prettyyyy sure he was cog, not a locust. I think that's the whole point of it, it's meant to be a dark shocking twist, hence why Paduck tells Baird he doesn't want to see him again.

[@willmelvin2351]

Ahhh thought it was her tags he meant they dropped. But it being a Cog that took her is way darker but would add a lot more to Paduk’s anger towards them. Makes sense

[@littlebadassgaming]

​@@willmelvin2351psst. Little funny considering paduk shows up in 5.

[@MrJohnnyonfire979]

Headcanon me likes to believe ragers went extinct after ukkon's death as he had experiments in making the locust stronger and their warbeasts

[@jishhernandez5008]

Nice video dude. Only thing is I felt as though Paduk was insinuating that Mariah was kidnapped by another gear to further boast his distrust for the C.O.G: but I only guessed that since I know some lore stuff like the Birthing Creche program that Presscott pushed through. Might be a spoiler for the books so search at your own discretion.

[@willmelvin2351]

Ah that could be it too, I just read a little of the Creche program as to not spoil it and yeah I'd definetly believe that too. I wish Paduk specified what "he" was as in locust or COG but if its explained in the books then I look forward to finding that out

[@phantomnova8711]

I love these videos not many people talk about gears of war. So keep it up! I can’t wait until you get to gears 5.

[@marioKILLEDyou]

Gears 2 lobby was glitching so I played the Judgment Campaign. 1. Campaign completed co-op open hardcore and insane. 2. All declassified completed, 3. Aftermath completed Insane solo, 4. Tai unlocked. Jan 2024

[@schreck1]

I don't like that they have MK 2 lancers because they weren't even made until a year into the war

[@ryanthomas9633]

I think gears judgement was just as good as any of the other games and it gave more background into some of the characters

[@rustyfool3740]

1:00:00 Paduk throwing Baird the tags implies it was some cog soldiers that kidnapped her hence why he says he doesn’t wanna see him again not the locust taking her

[@cerebralcloud92]

Gears Judgement is in the same boat as H3 ODST. It's the two possible outcomes of the same situation.

[@coletrainhetrick]

Outside the game play, the campaign killed the whole thing for me. This was not a story worth telling the way they told it. I would have loved to see Baird and cole meeting for the first time and fighting locusts together for the first time, Baird becoming the brains and actively learning g about the locusts while Cole acts like Cole. They feel hollow hear, especially Cole. Just so soulless.

[@willmelvin2351]

Seeing Baird and Cole meet and interact for the first time wouldve been sick

[@ChemistForHire]

I came straight from your gears 4 critique video and thought that video was great so decided to watch another one of your videos... just now realized after an hour and 2 minutes in that ive already watched this video. I actually left multiple comments 8 months ago... well great video lol. kept me entertained a second time around.

[@willmelvin2351]

Lol, well glad you liked them so much

[@tito3640]

I've played all of your Gears videos in the background and enjoyed all of them, you're funny as hell man. I hope you plan on covering the dumpster fires that were Gears 4 and 5 in the future

[@willmelvin2351]

Gears 4 will be coming out pretty soon long as I continue to have the time for it lol Im excited to get into it cause damn theres alot to talk about

[@GoreGutztheImpaler]

Never played this game and just watched a video today about it. Looking forward to see your opinion on this too. But really excited to watch your videos on gears 4 and 5

[@HolyBlu-fb2kd]

After watching this series, I've realized my genuine interest for the gears series. Only played 4 and 5 once, so with this series, I might go back and replay them also Ps: I always thought that those mutating glowie mf from gears 3 was once ragers.

[@ChemistForHire]

1-3 are the strongest of the series. definitely worth the time even to this day

[@HolyBlu-fb2kd]

@SmilezStan trust me, I know. I've played all the first three on the 360

[@ChemistForHire]

@@HolyBlu-fb2kd ahhh my fault i thought you were a bit new

[@willmelvin2351]

If youre talking about the lambent then nah i think theyre completely separate. But I would love to know what the hell Ragers even are like how we got to know about the other indigenous species.

[@controlschemekeaton]

Just recently discovered your channel and dude this stuff is so good. Criminally underrated retrospective channel. Who else loves watching other people who had a similar childhood talk about their opinion? Lol

[@willmelvin2351]

Thanks man!

[@codylego]

I believe the stronger enemies as kilo gets closer to Karn are not due to karn knowing about their plan. It’s just a natural consequence of karn being the general, like how onyx guards loomis the locust guard their general. When Baird says karn knew they were close it’s because kilo squad has the fight through a bunch of enemies meaning that karn would hear of a bunch of his soldiers dying as this random human squad pushes closer

[@willmelvin2351]

This makes a lot of sense actually, thanks for pointing this out!

[@codylego]

@@willmelvin2351 it doesn’t help that other parts of the game still don’t make sense, such as paduk and Sofia testimony just stopping

[@ChemistForHire]

55:02 LMAOOO you not slick

[@Jack-lb1hn]

The problem for me with Judgement was that it ret-conned some important lore. I was an avid Gears book-reader, I loved the lore. Don't remember what the clash was but I still hate it.

[@Slender_Man_186]

It mainly has to do with when and why the Mk2 chainsaw lancer was invented, and Kantus priests being on the surface so soon into the war when Gears 2 heavily implies that they had never been encountered by the CoG until the invasion of the Hollow, and we don’t see them on the surface in Gears 2 at all if I recall correctly, we don’t see Kantuses on the surface until Gears 3 which is set 2 years after the Hollow was flooded. In other words, the Locust even after 15 years of territorial gains didn’t feel comfortable sending their priests onto the surface, for obvious reason, until they were all forced onto the surface which is also when said rare priests got proper armor.

[@ghettomeatloaf-7808]

thank you for bein a goat and keepin the courage to upload/covering gears you're amazing g, it brings back so many memories for me and keep up the great work and videos.

[@gregoryberrycone]

the two weapon limit is one of my least favorite elements of modern shooter design. just let me carry two primarys and a pistol! its the perfect compromise. Honestly i like being able to carry a games full arsenal doom style but i get that doesn't work for every game I blame halo, even though it works well in that game since the combat is built around it, and your melee and grenades are so good that they practically count as separate weapons

[@willmelvin2351]

Yeah it really hinders the gameplay experience when you have to constantly decide between so many weapons with only 2 slots when a pistol can take up a slot where a boom shot could go.

[@xXSleepyFluffyx]

49:53 AND THE WRETCHES GO FOR SLAM DUNK

[@MrNoble]

Love the hyper-analysis of everything man, very well done. This was a great take on things.

[@Midnight_Wesker]

Judgement goes hard, love this game, sure its not as good as Gears 3 and it sucks that locust didt return, but Judgement is still great. The story was great in my opinion and aftermath was a really cool and good edition. Survival was really unique and interesting, i enjoyed this mode greatly, i like to go back to it time to time and just play survival, horde in my opinion is better but survival is still cool and unique and should definitely come back someday, same with Overrun. Overall Judgement didn't necessarily need to exist but im glad it does.

[@EliteKnight97]

The term “Indies” that Loomis calls Paduk is short for ‘Independent’ in reference to the Union of Independent Republics. And yes Loomis definitely uses it as a slur

[@MetaITurtle]

I remember they brought back that sniper from Judgement into Gears 5 but it was only for a limited time

[@FilthyGaijin]

I just finished watching the original trilogy videos. Good job, they were pretty entertaining. Now, about Gears Judgement. I agree the campaing wasnt that memorable but it actually was pretty entertaining, this game is the one i replayed the most because i enjoyed the declassified missions. While the gamemodes weren't everyones cup of tea i remember back in the day free 4 all was a gamemode everyone was asking, even in gears 3 there were custom King of the hill lobbys with friendly fire activated so you could play a version of free for all . And for the Overrun and survival modes at least for me they were pretty entertaining, mainly because i used to play with 3 other friends and the co op aspect made it pretty fun but I can understand why playing singleplayer could make it feel boring or not as appealing. Sorry for the wall of text

[@willmelvin2351]

Walls of text are always welcome! Yeah I still found judgement to be pretty entertaining, I think I just wish the game had more in it. Mainly the campaign despite the cool mechanic of the declassifieds. And I still miss overrun to this day. Hopefully we’ll a return of it someday in e day or 6

[@theperson2411]

Paduk was ok for me. If there is one person I don’t get it’s got to be Sofia. I decided to play judgement for the first time a few weeks back (was the gears game I haven’t played). By the time I beat the game I wasn’t a big fan of hers. All that I knew was that she was a Onyx recruit and she slept with her professor who was some big hot shot. I have no reason to be impressed by the Onyx because from what I can remember I don’t remember the Onyx ever doing anything (I have only played the games in my defense, and I don’t remember every little thing from the games)

[@willmelvin2351]

Thats pretty much what I got from Sofia too. I wish she showcased more of what makes the Onyx Onyx you know? But she was really reduced to sleeping with her mentor lol was sad to see

[@5hane9ro]

I enjoy judgement for what it is but DAM there is a reason why the community (including myself) just kept playing 3 afterwards

[@shawnjackson3764]

I like the game for the characters and the coop, but yeah after GoW3 it felt off.

[@spartanq7781]

The controls,challenges and the lack of anything really happening in the story are my big problems with the game. They're not nearly enough to sink it though. What I do like is the locast finally feeling as monstrous as they did in the first game. While the story is meh I do like seeing more of the early stages of the war and consequences of insubordination. Something I desperately need to see happen to Kait in Gears 5. But that's a rant for another day.

[@narutoedw1n]

Overrun when played with a squad against another squad were some of the most intense games back then it a fun

[@whysoupset3137]

I see judgement as like the advance warfare or mw2019 of gears of war. It was a new idea to the series, that changed a lot, and it just didnt click, so they didnt continue that system.

[@Swh-xb1hn]

I played a lot of the multiplayer but overall i really feel the main trilogy was just better. I find the campaign a grind to get through when replaying, so I tend to skip it. I don't like how it messed with the lore like for example, lancers were made years after E Day meaning them being here is dumb. Just this shows how much they didnt care about pitting it into the universe. Other than my rant, really enjoyed the video Will, lokking forward to gears 4👍

[@nna23422]

love these man you got a bright future id hate to make you suffer but any chance we get a gears 4 and 5 version of this

[@willmelvin2351]

4 should be coming soon my friend..

[@nna23422]

@@willmelvin2351 thank you🐐

[@FilthyGaijin]

15:32 thanks for the view Sofia, but not right now

[@ImaginArt24]

ppl forget to talk about the amazing ally AI they are actually very reliant on picking you up. No joke like why are the older game not great about this

[@willmelvin2351]

True, I dont think I mentioned it but I remember being excited when I got downed and realized the AI were able to pick up teammates. Was a good change

[@tankervalenzuela2959]

Whens gears 4 critique coming out

[@carlosrobles8036]

when do you think you will do a gears 4 or 5 review, im desperately waiting for those ?

[@therealestmedel5337]

For some reason on the Gears wiki Sofia Bio said she is romantically involved with Paduk

[@St.GRo0VIYE]

Honestly my favorite part of gears of war judgment was the constant action and no vehicle mission 😂 my least was only having 2 weapons

[@NickMorales-wy3zh]

You doing 4 and five? If so I’m excited

[@lionsfan3581]

The stim grenade is in gears tactics

[@willmelvin2351]

I havent played that.. Yet. After I get through 4 and 5 Ill probably get to Tactics. But happy to hear the stim is somewhere else I loved it

[@lionsfan3581]

Honestly I liked this games story and I think it would’ve been accepted if they didn’t change the core mechanics of the weapon system. If they ever remastered it I hope they just revert that change.

[@Khornecussion]

" The Locust prolly kidnapped her. " Ah yes. The Locust. Known for dropping COG tags. Clearly. Astute work, detective. :P

[@Slifer29]

Sofia’s fate was left ambiguous hopefully maybe in Gears 6 we’ll know something.

[@TheDarkkilla12]

Aftermath heavily implied she got taken out to avoid being a prisoner, as the game has shown. We would have had mention of a kid of Sofia by 4 and 5 given how long development took post Judgment and the sequel games.

[@Slifer29]

@@TheDarkkilla12 this is what I found from the gears, Wikipedia, and this is some behind-the-scenes stuff: Sofia was not confirmed to be dead as the writers wanted to keep as many storytelling possibilities open as possible. A writer named Rob Auten stated that "We are not saying if Sofia was dead. I actually tweaked the Gearspedia reference myself a few days ago as it said that she was murdered which Paduk never actually said. It was intentionally left unclear."

[@Slifer29]

@@TheDarkkilla12 in addition, there is also this: By 42 A.E., the Coalition of Ordered Governments erected a memorial wall of soldiers who lost their lives during the Pendulum Wars, Locust War, Stranded Insurgency and Lambent Pandemic. Despite Baird receiving her fate, her name is not on the memorial wall, indicating that she may be still alive.

[@TheDarkkilla12]

@@Slifer29 That's actually cool. Maybe we might get something in 6 then.

[@Slifer29]

@@TheDarkkilla12 hopefully I’m sure that the people over at the coalition are cooking right now

[@MattyGears1583]

After listening to the Audiobooks, the judgement story makes 0 sense chronologically.

[@tayderryberry8326]

Overrun was soo good

[@BentleythegamerYT]

Cool video

[@MrJakeros]

All things considered, this game had one of the best trailers I've ever seen just from the music alone.

[@513JearBear]

Subscribed 😎

[@kevinmiller5674]

Kinda torn, it was the first game played with my then age 6 grandson played .. has a special spot for me.

[@JoeyP7998]

My biggest issue with Judgement was how they handled Cole Train and Baird’s relationship. They don’t seem like best friends at all. Cole is barely a character in this game! I wish the game would have focused around them becoming as close as they are. They really missed out on the brotherly themes that the OG trilogy was based around. I realize the game is in more of an arcade style. I just would’ve appreciated more character depth.

[@willmelvin2351]

I agree, i could feel the characters being there but they never spoke with each other much. They didn’t make anything of it until the end of aftermath with Cole calling him sir but he never even called him that in the main game lol

[@jalejablonsky2396]

You aren't kidding in them staying away from this game because I can barely find anything on it in later talks about it like in the 10 years of Gears of War being a mention and even the later entries lightly touching it

[@willmelvin2351]

Yeah they really don’t wanna acknowledge this games existence lol

[@jalejablonsky2396]

@@willmelvin2351 This game truly has become the red headed step child

[@dark2deeds]

I just played through it again I think it's a good game

[@samuel10125]

Every series has to have a black sheep for Gears it's Judgement for COD arguably Ghosts for Dragon Age it's a mix up between DA2 or Inquisition.

[@willmelvin2351]

True, it’s weird too cause Ghosts had one of the more interesting campaigns to me and I thought there’d be a sequel but it was just forgotten about lol

[@caseyhorrocks4458]

I loved judgement I wish they would do more w the universe before gears 1like raams shadow maybe even do more of the pendulum wars like in gears 4

[@willmelvin2351]

Yeah I would love that too! I've really wanted to see more of the UIR

[@ProphetJigalo]

I’m disappointed you didn’t include the best line in the series “House!” 😂

[@littlebadassgaming]

House?

[@ProphetJigalo]

@@littlebadassgaming a random boomer says “house!” before getting killed by the commander judge dude, its so stupid its funny

[@littlebadassgaming]

@@ProphetJigalo damn i never knew that

[@que-tangclan5856]

I loved overrun mode

[@willmelvin2351]

Same man, wish we could get it back

[@nadaesfacil]

IDC what anyone says this game is bad ass. Only down side for me is you can't be locust in multiplayer. Other than that it's a game that is loveable for me.

[@willmelvin2351]

I honestly cant remember if I mention this in the video, but I loved playing the game despite frustrations. The Karn fights actually might be more fun and engaging than the RAAM fight personally and the music is great. There were just a lot of issues I had with it as well. But both opinions are very valid for sure

[@RoyleVegeta]

What do you mean NO horde mode it's called the campaign in judgment.....😅 😢 Lol Yeah I never touch this game until game pass my self, only played it because I a huge Baird fan.

[@Drewsapher]

More videos please

[@jalejablonsky2396]

Weird topic/question: Am I the only one that feels Baird in Judgment feels out of character and not keeping up with the lore? Because in one of the books Dom suggests that Baird might be personally self sabotaging his chance for promotion because it means he needs to be emotionally responsible of others but wants to assure people he's good enough to be a sergeant. Baird also feels too patriotic when even in the games they make it clear he doesn't care for authority or being bossed around and wants to be left alone. This Baird feels too clean for me. He's not really flawed. Even in the books and comics they make it clear Baird is a bastard but is competent enough to know how to survive. This Baird is too suck up to authority to be even the same person when he knew what authority was and that was his parents telling him he can't go for his dreams because he's a BAIRD and he's gonna sign up for the service or he loses his inheritance and that he so anti social with anybody that he talks and relates more with robots than actual people, which is why he can sleep soundly at night than other Gears because he doesn't hold strong attachments with anyone even thinks that Marcus needs to stop sweating over Anya because its gonna emotionally ruin him. Literally saying he needs to stop caring. Even think to himself Dom needs to stop hanging out with Stranded because he's getting too chummy with them and needs to worry about himself first off. This Baird feels a totally new person. He feels too much like Marcus for him to be the same asshole we come to know. I'm not saying I love Baird as a character. In fact, I can't stand Baird because he's a classist sexist pig who claims to be using this as a coping method but to me is an excuse for him being an asshole. However I'm not saying that Gears 3 made that same mistake, because Baird did progress as a character as time went on. I don't mind that. What I do mind is the start of his character arc. I never saw him as some old war hero who became more cynical to full blown nihilist as the years started to wear down. He felt more he already resented authority and The Locust War came at the wrong time which basically ended any sense of leaving to work for his own means and more stuck in this ongoing hell that always seems to get worst before it ever gets better which by the near end leaves him to start actually caring about others in his own way because they've been losing so much at this point that he needs to give people at least some element of kindness even if he wouldn't call it that as fact which should tell the audience that things must be getting worst if Baird starts to actually give a shit about anyone openly. My theory is they wanted to do more with Gears 3 Baird and find him more fun or they knew how problematic he is so they wanted to water that down to make him more snarky than bigoted even though Cliff himself calls Baird a bastard and based on a friend who was a real hurtful person. (Before you say it I have to play it PG otherwise KZbin might just delete this comment).

[@willmelvin2351]

Yeah I totally agree. We never see how Baird got to be the way he was in the original trilogy. He acts a little too altruistic here, maybe since they made him the main character of this story they didnt want him to be too abrasive? But then that undermines his character in the later titles so pretty weird choice on their part.

[@jalejablonsky2396]

@@willmelvin2351 I'm just saying this Baird wouldn't tell people Dom is the good guy and that he's a 'realist' and that he doesn't care if Gorasni have a petty vengeance spree and murder people despite crossing the line, because they're not Gears or part of his squad. He just saids, "Fuck'em." This isn't a Baird who if you said Stranded are no different from the COG but he said to your face, "The Stranded are not us." That's all what Trilogy Baird would do and does. How do you go from Captain America to full blown Vegtea levels of asshole behavior?

[@baals_5000]

The Markza is in gears 5?

[@GodyP]

Reminds me of halo odst

[@benw4401]

Or 4 or 5?

[@kami7845]

people who on a hate trend for no reason, the game was good, yea it had a different mechanic and story telling but who cares I'd rather have another judgement than another gears 4 or 5, fuck the swarm it sucks

[@Karmitify]

I hate to admit it was my guilty pleasure of a game despite its flaws.

[@the_mr.e_guy6066]

Ok hear me out🙌 judgement wasn’t that bad

[@willmelvin2351]

It wasnt that bad, just had more moments than others that made me think of what they could have done better with. Still a fun game especially with the declassified missions

[@bockbuster60]

Bro check out spec ops the line except the gameplay in that game all flaws you told in this video are fixed in spec ops the line especially the dead bodies flaws

[@privateinferno3034]

no we didn't

[@garylococo2401]

I didnt like gears judgement it was the worst i hated they changed the controls and they ignored important lore stuff they completely ignored definitely was the worst game in the series

[@christophervalentino6692]

I didn’t like this game personally.

[@brianachim2670]

No it was garbage😂

[@willmelvin2351]

😂

[@brianachim2670]

@@willmelvin2351 Seriously the terrible immersion, character development, transitions between cutscenes and lore inconsistency are atrocious.

[@NanakPrasad-be4yi]

Gears of war judgement is not a very good game please don't defend this game this game suck

[@headhunterxxx2423]

i swear in my memory of judgment they went "is that a " "yeah it is i thought they died out" somewhere similar to that

[@willmelvin2351]

Do you mean for the ragers? I think they said it somewhere I can’t remember for sure tho