Did You Spot the Secret Autobot in Transformers 4?

The Chevy Sonic in Transformers Age of Extinction had some Transformer vibes. Was it a Transformer named Rollbar?
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[@demyacon]

What happened to Jolt before Dark of the Moon? - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n328fJKZm5ysock

[@margarethogan4882]

Hey Demyacon Did You Spot The Secret Autobot Under The Chevrolet Sonic Rs Rally Car In The Bottom In Transformers: Age Of Extinction?

[@truicide4054]

it wouldve been cool to maybe see him transform and shoot lockdown or something before he throws the grenade

[@TheChickenlittle11]

Yeah, like he could’ve transformed and gave some cover fire as Optimus could escape with Cade, Tessa, and Shane and possibly even T.J Miller’s character. Which would’ve most likely been his last few moments before getting cut down my Lockdown.

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

Rollbar was already a transformer, and he was tracking and about to find Optimus. He already knew if he interacted with humans he had to do certain things to blend in. He had been watching the two ?farms? and had seen Shawn go back and forth and had scanned and copied Shawn's car. However, Rollbar never divulged his identity to Shawn, therefore Shawn didn't know that Rollbar was a replacement for his normal rally car. This makes sense to me.

[@buster56speed]

I had an extremely similar theory to this.

[@Plxdge]

😭bro,the theory of yours was fun to read because it would make sense for that to happen

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

And this just occurred to me. What did Rollbar do with the original Rally car, put it in his alternative dimensional subspace pocket like it has been explained happens to Prime's Trailer?

[@superfighter064]

Shane* Not Shawn

[@Tingmanlik_prime]

Shane never mentioned how he gets the car, and Rollbar appeared in the ROTF toyline, so maybe Rollbar was going to be in the film, so I think eventually the team decided to remove the character, and it appeared in the Breakout Battle pack, and I was wondering that why Optimus didn’t communicate with Rollbar, I still always think Rollbar is an autobot

[@shamelessnjc]

Shane mentions that he had his life savings invested in the car, implying that he bought it or modded it himself.

[@DCTRC]

Rollbar definetly was going to scan the car and maybe becomes Shane’s but I don’t think it would’ve ever been originally rollbar

[@twistedyogert]

Using a sentient vehicle when you're a racer seems like cheating and one of the Autobots becoming a submarine takes "more than meets the eye" to a new level.

[@Ultimate_Hater75]

My god. How it would have been soo awesome if the submarine transformed. Gives me the Devastator scene from Revenge of the Fallen vibes.

[@cinfernoproductions392]

Actually back in 2014 I remember seeing transformer concept art of that vehicle and I still haven't forgotten.

[@harrishyatt6283]

rollbar appeared in the rotf toyline, also when we saw the red jeep in the dotm filming people were saying the red jeep we saw in dotm was gonna be rollbar

[@greendecepticon6148]

That was a fan car

[@Deadput]

The Red Jeep was a fan who kept trying to get their car into the movie, I believe they even tried again with the same Jeep in the filming of AOE or TLK.

[@Deadput]

Of course while the truth is that if it was a Transformer the idea was cut early enough that no major toys of the character with an original design made it through (I don't think the Step Changers would of been his actual form in the movie considering it's designed as a homage and that doesn't typically happen, in addition to his head design being a simple X-Brawn styled mask) I like to pretend that they are a Transformer although not necessarily an Autobot who was hiding as Shane's car with their idea assuming that Cemetery Wind would never think to look in a public place like the racing business. They didn't intentionally go there to rescue anyone, they just so happened to be dragged along there by Shane due to being their car and simply did some control of the driving to stay alive, and the moment the humans got out they drive away, either escaping Lockdown or being pursued by the Bounty Hunter (thus why Lockdown didn't continue to pursue Optimus). The reason I say not necessarily Autobot is because a neutral or Decepticon would more likely not want to go with Optimus for obvious reasons, but of course it's a flimsy head canon interpretation anyways. Besides this I think in the end the reason that car shot remains in the film or alternatively was filmed like that in the first place was it being yet another of Bay's misdirection's, it's possible that Rollbar/The car was never meant to be a Transformer but Bay wanted the audience to think so (and hence why the car had that marketing photo as well) only to reveal that the rescuer was instead.....some boyfriend we never met before (the idea probably sounded cooler in their heads if this was the case)

[@aaronbradley430]

Yeah I also like to pretend he’s a transformer one who came down do to Optimus message in revenge of the fallen and my head cannon is rollbar and Shane are good friends like bee and Sam and when he says he doesn’t know how he’s driving so good he’s lying because he doesn’t think he can fully trust Cade and Lucas however he did want to tell Tessa but before he could get the opportunity his best friend was blown to bits Shane was devastated but didn’t let it show to preserve his masculinity some other random information 1 Cade had an assumption the car was a transformer but didn’t have time to ask amidst all the chaos 2 the custom race track in the whare house was made by Shane so him and rollbar and could race

[@aaronbradley430]

And 3 rollbar doesn’t speak to Cade and friends because he was traumatized by seeing his kind hunted and killed by humans so he became shy but I Iimagen if he had time to open up and meet up with the other autobots In monument valley he would be similar to crosshairs

[@Roadblock213]

It's funny before Shane was on screen and I saw that car and it had no driver my first thought was ok so even though Optimus has masked his signal maybe a new autobot manged to track him down then I started thinking for all we know this could be a decepticon who is working with lockdown but unfortunately as we all know that wasn't the case at all

[@MyPhone-bl8pm]

The reason I thought Rollbar was transformer was because how did Shane know that Cade and Tessa were in trouble, unless Rollbar recieved the message that Optimus sent out when Cade was proving to Lucas and Tessa that the truck was a transformer.

[@trippinfo]

Good theory

[@NH_Shadowhunter260]

I’d rather see Rollbar as a transformer then Shane to be fair but I was disappointed when he didn’t transform bro I was waiting to see what was about to happen

[@xolter1013]

3:34 This is my favorite part of the comic. It was just crazy when Mudflap said, "Its revenginin' time!" The whole comic book store went wild! Truly a revengin' moment.

[@ShadenBSmith]

Conclusion: either a headmaster nor pretender

[@tbwarrior_airsoft]

7:01 I think the only reason that scene made it lika that in the movie is because Michael Bay's lack of attention to detail. During most of his movies you can even see how the aspect ratio of the image changes abruptly for no reason.

[@clarencevaughan5798]

Also this car was in the toyline as well. So yes that Chevy was a transformer.

[@Dragon_Apex]

Yes I did, I just didn’t know if it was really rollbar or not, cuz the vehicle looked EXACTLY like him.

[@Zodiac3107]

0:58 Love the new intro, goes hard!

[@Scourgeisoptimusprime]

I wish Sam would come back

[@MicrowaveableLemon]

No

[@Scourgeisoptimusprime]

@@MicrowaveableLemon why

[@Scourgeisoptimusprime]

It would be cool having Sam and Cade in aoe

[@MicrowaveableLemon]

@@Scourgeisoptimusprime because all he did was scream and he was annoying and had no character depth

[@MicrowaveableLemon]

@Krimzon because I understand movies and that characters need depth right definitely an L anyway bumblebee is the best live action movie we have had and will be until rise of the beasts because we see the transformers for more than 3 mins and the humans are interesting

[@Brandongriffithmakesart]

He would of make a great movie Evac

[@RobiticDuck]

As a very casual fan of this series, I ended up seeing this movie twice in theaters.

[@patrickmahomes5103]

I never even noticed this in the movie theater even watching it over and over on DVD 😂

[@Rackcoon929]

I think the movie would have been better off with rollbar being a transformer, would be nice for him to help Optimus

[@jevonsims900]

Depends on what type of bot he is if he's like Jazz he'd end up dead.

[@Rackcoon929]

@@jevonsims900 better than nothing 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@CoffeeMug2828]

The reason why the shot was kept was probably "We got the coolest shot yet. I guess this goes into the final movie"

[@rebel_alpha_gaming]

I honestly thought it was Smokescreen when he pulled up, but then it did nothing so I was very disappointed

[@gqshen1815]

When I saw the movie, I asked my dad is that a Transformer? My dad said no it’s just a car.

[@Horizon1722]

I honestly thought that was jolt when the car first appeared since no one was in it.

[@aldrinclementina4297]

The moment I saw the rally car on scene I thought it was Wheeljack ( Rally Car) who was watching from a distance before making his move..

[@Skullman8970]

Who is this transformer is it the third brother from skid and mud flap

[@aaronbradley430]

Not exactly no I feel like he’s just a random new character Adeded in for the sake of selling toys which he did but he we never saw his robot mode in the movie wich is kinda sad but this movie was all ready long as is but still would have been kinda cool

[@TOSTlE1]

This is my opinion, please don’t hate. So I don’t think the Chevrolet was a transformer because it got destroyed after Lockdown threw his grenade. Sadly he never came back in TF5. So he might be dead at this point.

[@aaronbradley430]

Yeah I think him and Shane were best friends and when he got blown up by lockdown Shane was devastated but decided to press on because he didn’t want to seem weak in front of his gf and her dad

[@iiEco-Ryan3166]

I'm still pretty sure Shane's car is Smokescreen

[@davomartico]

Ohhhh that would be cool if smokescreen appears in the movie but no not gonna happen

[@Salt_163]

The weird thing is I was rewatching this yesterday and thought the same thing!

[@TACTIK00L]

yo can you make a video on the cut scene from age of extinction thats in an abandoned nuclear powerplant? I think it featured leadfoot

[@DBlock_11x]

I thought that too when he pulled up to the farm and no one was in the drivers seat. But then Shane was shown driving the car in a close up shot. Most likely had Cuts in production

[@ju-87b9]

I like to think this is mirage, i know that dino/mirage was in dotm, but maybe he survived, and took a new look/colourscheme more fitting to his G1 appearance, would've just been cool ig

[@Sn1perBeen23]

Wait. About the driving better line. Does that mean autobots are actually real?

[@aaronbradley430]

I think it’s Shane lying to Cade and Lucas because he thinks he can’t trust them with the identity of his new friend rollbar but he was ok with telling Tessa privately

[@johnp6101]

Originally it was meant to be a Decepticon, and was taking Cade and his family to Lockdown , but they felt it was too close to the Original Bumblebee reveal and Soundwave in DOTM

[@elizabethleotaud2529]

I think that the sonic might have been a neutral transformer hiding on earth, and that he used a holo-form, or something along those lines, to help the humans. Particularly one that looked close or identical to the other guy(I can’t remember his name). He might have been an accidental kill, a car that lockdown didn’t realize was a transformer.

[@jovensworld2037]

How was the making of the Fan Edit of The Last Knight coming around, it has been two years since that teaser trailer came out on your channel

[@demyacon]

I still have my eye on it. I’ve been far less active with KZbin stuff the last couple of years so I’ve dedicated less time to it than I would have hoped but while it’s on the back-burner, it’s still happening as long as I can find a good way to release it

[@MicrowaveableLemon]

I feel like there was something about this in the transformers annual

[@calebcardinal3867]

Another point for rollbar would be when he punches a guy with his tire, a human couldn’t do that but a transformer totally could

[@dylanpajuelo8352]

So why didn’t the car never transform when the time was needed is he just a bot did he lose ability to transform on the war on cybertron or something else

[@aaronbradley430]

My head cannon is that he was traumatized seeing his autobot pals slaughtered so felt frightened to transform in front of people that weren’t Shane cus they were good friends

[@hangman6414]

Because its just a regular car, autobots/transformers cant have minor damage like the rim being cracked completely make them immobile and useless

[@charlieretro]

@@hangman6414 I remember in one of the Cartoons there was one Transformer that would never show his rebot mode he would always stay in his motorcycle and we would hear him talking to himself.

[@zpecterghostnecr]

I think there are two chrevolet One is a literal car And another is RollBar/ other transformer I guess Shane have his car scanned by rollbar While Shane real car maybe got destroyed, rollbar may just run away with different car form.

[@aaronbradley430]

Here’s my theory when rollbar drove up to the hill he had the seat reclined because he’s a show off and loves to race while Shane was sitting in the back seat in order to let his friend have his moment before they rush in to save Cade and friends

[@Pupperling-rm9kq]

I knew that it was a Transformer! Me and my dad were just talking about that, and I needed to add another won argument to my board

[@henryyoung2116]

No cap when it first drove up I thought he was coming to save Optimus

[@NH_Shadowhunter260]

I wish I got to see him as a transform

[@davomartico]

Me too

[@redboyamaji8581]

I thought it was an autobot but since it didnt transform i just thought it was a normal car

[@davomartico]

Same

[@jameshebert5430]

In The Last Knight Josh Dumels says, "That people at the Naval Museum saw the sub jump off its mourings and into the water!"

[@BRD_Stinger]

I could've sworn that a different channel already covered this a while back. I think it was TransTheories possibly FireBrothers

[@aaronbradley430]

Oh ? 🤔 interesting can u give the link if not that’s fine I’m actually very interested in the idea of the car being a transformer theres a lot of evidence supporting it and I made a theory about his timeline like trans theory’s

[@BRD_Stinger]

@@aaronbradley430 here you go mate. It was made 2 years ago i think kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGSvpKqIe6hoo6M&feature=share

[@titlingcape]

I love that they used a hatch back version of the Chevy sonic LOL !!

[@melvinpearse5630]

Rollbar probably survived the bombs and fled somewhere in the earth after everyone abandons him and the shot where Shane was not there he was probably taking cover P.S when I was a kid I was like is he a transformer

[@shadowdemangaming6270]

What if he was a Transformer before he came to Earth he saw that car destroy the humans car and then take that car to transform him into his car and then left or he got killed by lockdown or he escaped to everyone and we will never know if he's an Autobot dissecticon or dead or we don't know only Michael Bay knows

[@billyjoshchew7575]

Either Shane was the pretender a headmaster, or a God master without wearing the exo suit...

[@isaiahwelch8066]

That scene goin' down that country drive? Looks like it's in my county (Lenawee County, Michigan). Additionally, in the movie, the white farmhouse that's right next door to the barn was the house a classmate mine lived in when we both went to Sand Creek High School.

[@carl3673]

Maybe he transformed and jump away or behind some walls to avoid death of lockdowns grenade

[@officerzarius9958]

So is ROLLBAR Shane's guardian just like Bumblebee is to Sam? Or does Shane not know ROLLBAR is a autobot?

[@aaronbradley430]

I think he does and when he says he has no clue how he’s driving so good he’s lying cus he doesn’t fully trust Cade and Lucas. Tessa however he was willing to tell but never got to cus he died and i think him and Shane are good friends like bee and Sam in the og movies

[@aaronbradley430]

And by “ he “I ment rollbar

[@lostalone1271]

I liked the idea of standard car being a hero vehicle.

[@aaronbradley430]

Same

[@thatdragon4988]

Alright folks.. Who here knows what a professional stunt driver is? Because from what im seeing, or actually not seeing, they simply painted out the rally driver and seemingly forgot to paint shane in or perhaps there was a deleted scene not mentioned. Continuity errors exist and honestly this may be another example to add to the list.

[@vacswolk5674]

There was a huge possibility that this car is a transformer because the designer or something of transformers said while the filming of Transformers Age of extinction that they always gives every transformer car a facelift so it gives a character to the transformers car and this sonic car have facelift so it was a transformer.

[@westernengine11]

You forgot to mention that Rollbar was also released in the breakout battle 3 pack

[@GTO_CAL]

Shane was hidden to give the exciting illusion of it possibly being a TF because it is a TF movie ,its one of those tease to the audience tricks movies do sometimes

[@Deathbot884]

Yeah I have his toy I thought it was strange his vehicle mode looked just like that car

[@twistedyogert]

Remember ladies, if he isn't human he's just a friend.

[@winterpurple4587]

Yeah most fans noticed it. Or at least many die hard fans did. But there could be a few theories. 1. Is that he's originally intended to be introduced as a transformer, though latter changes to the script dropped the idea. But a scene of him with no driver, and another with Shane alluding to him had already been shot, and that there was no time (or too impractical) for reshoots so they used them anyway. 2. MB intentionally did it that way and that he's still a transformer in the script.

[@DeltaXV]

The perfect chance to bring back the twins

[@riversteeple627]

Roll bar was actually featured as the main human transport in a Universal theme park 4D simulator ride

[@demyacon]

That's Evac :)

[@riversteeple627]

@@demyacon dang, i thought i actually knew something for a sec🤣🤣

[@APX....69]

I was thinkin of that

[@gialanamoon5094]

Ok. The first bit of “proof”; Bay’s just a disorganized mess; Shane was supposed to be in that shot. He just spliced in the wrong scene. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@NicBOfficial]

Or.. The producers/director wanted us to think Shane's car was initially a transformer, so they made the first scene we see the car in look as if it doesn't have a driver. Edit: Spoke too soon, didn't wait to see the part about the toys. It could be possible that they just wanted to make the featured car into a transformer in toy form to make that much more money by having an additional toy to sale.

[@jacobshakespeare2715]

Maybe rollbar was checking the situation then went back to shanes house and acted like he never move like the submarine

[@neontoxicstorm8811]

It may just be there in the future as remember we don't know how many movies there will be

[@maxrander0101]

the twins were in dark of the moon they get killed by sentinel when he attacks the base you see the two of them still in car form get cut to pieces while he is going mental in the garage

[@SupergirlJLM]

I miss Micheal Bay's Transformers

[@lonelypotato5352]

ok so im just realizing that the guy from the JUST DO IT meme looks like Shia LaBoufe with a beard Edit: As a Rescue Bots fan, the only person that comes to mind when I see the giant submarine autobot is Hightide

[@aaronbradley430]

And the name cade

[@Klatts2]

It is Shia LaBoufe.

[@raptor79]

Would like to hear thoughts on why silverbolt was removed/ changed like rollbar in dark of the moon as he is in the hanger marked with the N4500X tag that blackout had in the 2007 movie.

[@james_no_last_name]

I’d be down if they released a studio series figure of Rollbar like how they did Thundercracker in DOTM

[@kdrapertrucker]

Well he was going to be in the movie, but being a Chevy he was broke down.

[@HellisErth]

That sub was hiding in a inlet in the Mekong I found that punk months ago

[@anthonygray2077]

Intro go hard asf I’m subscribing

[@juanchoguerrero9143]

Please collaborate with the Fire Brothers and Trans Theories please

[@josunday7081]

I think that transformer actually could’ve been Cliffjumper

[@VirtualBilly]

lol, I’m sorry, were we supposed to have WATCHED Transformers 4?? You know they’re Michael Bay movies….

[@demyacon]

Yes, yes I believe watching the movie would be a requirement here.

[@bubba8751]

Yesir

[@evankimani6598]

I think I've seen a car with no driver in Eldoret

[@harrishyatt6283]

rollbar also appeared in the rpm toyline and the 2010 toyline

[@farrdawgjoker7087]

It's a Michael Bay film so it doesn't have to make sense or be plot hole free because it has explosions and slow motion fights scenes and slow motion shooting with explosions in the background or a slow motion shooter jumping or falling threw an explosion.

[@coopermetcalf7131]

that would have made 4 and 5 better if they added those tow transformer anyways this was alot of info so thanks

[@fatboyshadetree5139]

Skids and Mudflap were removed because they were deemed to offensive for the brand. As for their in universe removal they were simply explained as not wanting to work with humans after the whole desert fight. As for the scene in the field. That could have been rollbar that was there and then he drove off seeing his real version arrive. Maybe he drove off to locate other autobots and let them know what had happened and where to meet Optimus in the mountain reunion with Hound and them. He probably took on another form to blend in as he was more a scout than a fighter. Just some thoughts.

[@redagonzillalillizzie5822]

I think rollbar before it exploded he scanned the car and drove as fast as he could away from explosion.

[@user-zw6hm9xc3k]

So was the submarine in The Last Knight really a Transformer, or was it Dive Dive from the. GOBOTS?

[@pedraogamer5795]

Yes this is autobot

[@whirltheflightbot8076]

Yep also there was another Autobots in Transformers 1 if you look at the tow truck that bumblebee was on you can see a Autobot symbol and that was a autobot named long arm and one of

[@scarlett_phoenix3174]

hell if I care why these changes were made, if they weren't made, I guarantee the franchise would be way better, but it just adds pointless confusion.

[@sonxicor254]

I saw the Shane wasn’t holding the steering wheel while drifting

[@gabriellecalachan245]

Maybe lockdown already knows that the car is a autobot maybe idk

[@iangabrielbarrientos9850]

Shane's name is on the door of the car u will see it

[@nitrozeus7781]

Call me crazy but they actually talked about that Chevrolet being a transformer in the movie back in 2015 behind the scenes 🤔 but the movie tells otherwise

[@DragonPlayzedits]

sadly he was killedby lockdown

[@34._Jerome]

if u remember rescue bots from hasbro the submarine was probably hightide

[@Salvage-Warrior]

I also thought it was a transformer