Diddy Laid in Bed With 2 White Girls and Invited Me To Join All 3 Of Them In Bed.

Diddy ex-bodyguard Gene Deal details how Diddy offered two females to him.

[@MOTV583]

This dude got wild stories for days, but what blows my mind is that he stayed around him as long as he did. I wouldn't last a full weekend around a guy like Diddy.

[@rayraydewitt4132]

U feel me

[@nuggz22]

When money is involved people become blind to evil.

[@allpraisestoyah5033]

@@nuggz22I’m good on that bread fam diddy a devil

[@oskartgrouch8757]

Puff's toxic energy would make the average person physically ill. Unless they were on that wavelength. In Gene's defense though he worked in law enforcement and did child abuse cases. So he is to some degree resistant to Puffy's kind of negativity.

[@ck-ur8hw]

Diddy paid his bills,

[@jesuse.9395]

Damn. Not even Gene was safe from Puffs advances 😂

[@AlexGarcia-pm3mf]

😂

[@rgdavisrd]

Yuk

[@bouche8503]

If you think Diddy and bust in Gene you stupid

[@JOHN-zl5kw]

Puff had his Own Security Walking around in Diapers! 😆 🤣 😂 They Protecting Diddy, and gotta Protect their Azz 🍑 from Diddy.

[@HoneyLove77]

It's an orgy not advances on Gene!

[@keithc1725]

Gene got Diddy stories on deck for us for the rest of his life 😂

[@PoeArtryCreativeMovementLLC]

This is entertainment I never knew I needed😂😂😂

[@Mar-hm9eo]

What does BBC mean?

[@eddieestrada636]

British broadcast channel :-)

[@GoddessPrincessZariaWilliams]

Lmfaooo hell yeah... story after story 😂😂😂😂😂

[@GoddessPrincessZariaWilliams]

​@@Mar-hm9eobig black cock lol 😂

[@JOHN-zl5kw]

Diddy said "GENE, I BET YOU CAN HANDLE ALL 3 OF US DADDY"

[@_dark_170]

The cops coming to get you because you just KILLED me... 💀 💀 💀💀💀💀

[@BostonGhost617]

😂😂😂😂

[@AlexGarcia-pm3mf]

😂😂😂

[@rgdavisrd]

Gross

[@TDoubleYu]

LMAOOOO

[@M3GANdoll]

I have to admit that I find myself waiting for the next episode (video) from this series...Total guilty pleasure binge watch!

[@latashasmith1778]

Me too - Art always here with ☕️ served hot

[@JohnSmith-pg9ns]

This reminds me when I was following the Amber Heard versus Johnny Depp court case saga. Now it's another soap opera Diddy the gay woman abuser.

[@bzb8554]

Man lol. I feel I like gotta wear a condom before these interviews, and take a shower after! 😆😂

[@zzizahacallar]

Same

[@Trasee_theRealtor]

Don’t feel bad Mee too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@colossus112785]

These stories just keep coming 🕶🍿

[@russianwolfhound2138]

That's what they are. "Stories."

[@Ayeunc]

FREE DIDDY ‼️‼️‼️👉👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmaufmmLr8SKmZosi=XcfOy5ix1Jd6m5tX

[@AlexGarcia-pm3mf]

🐸 ☕️

[@kufarimahdi9636]

🍵☕

[@kv8673]

He waited for the right moment to tell the rest of the stories. This is it baby!

[@JohnDRambo]

Didy always trying to invite somebody to a freakoff 😭💀

[@kingpauljoel6827]

Take date,take dat

[@TreeHouse2023]

Tried fabulous on drink champs👀💀💀💀

[@newera5238]

😭😅😅😅

[@JohnDRambo]

@@TreeHouse2023 that still the funniest shit ever the way fab was responding to Diddy freak off invitations and Jadakiss reactions 😂

[@ColdHoops]

If we see him in the Freaknik documentary next year, it's GG😂

[@94462]

Diddy is the Caligula of the modern era lmfao 🤣

[@beautyforashes1948]

😅😂😅 I understand 🙃underated comment

[@Manny-nm8dh]

The industry is littered with Roman emperors. Im sure i would bet 9 out of 10 executives were just as bad or worse with their perversion.

[@TSixSix]

😂😂😂 all he missing is the horse 🐎 😂

[@Bosschicksherion1]

😂😂😂 shit is wild

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

@EUCvibes we get it dude, you're a degenerate 😹 diddy still a weirdo.

[@Gustavo22222]

This guy got more stories than a library😂

[@makavelli7211]

😂 I like that analogy

[@trenellbullock9160]

I like the stories 🤭

[@judgeeviecourt]

😂😂😅

[@trenellbullock9160]

@@judgeeviecourt 😉

[@trenellbullock9160]

@@judgeeviecourt 😉

[@viodon48]

When he said we had 2 snow bunnies I was dying 😂😂😂

[@user-kz3ur2ph1l]

I have had six in my life 😂😂

[@HoneyHoneyBaby]

🐇🐇😭

[@AmaniThurman]

🤣🤣

[@TeeTV22]

I’ve had a RACK of em… my baby mother white… shiiiiiid, if you know you knowww!!

[@shonuf5152]

Like y'all got a platinum prize. Can have that.

[@stryfetc1471]

Diddy wanted to see Gene's DEAL!!😂😂

[@cameronuzokatv]

DAYYYUUUUUM *Keefe D Voice

[@fredkilhefner3828]

LOL

[@GHOST91141]

😂😂

[@TruthSpeaker4]

😂😂😂😂

[@beatsbydivine]

😂😂😂😂HUSH😂😂😂

[@iamjdaniels]

Gene Deal has been saying all of these things for years, so his story is the only story i trust 99%. Everyone else late to the party!

[@ms.niecey2953]

I been listening to him for about 4 years everything he said came to the light

[@Ms_T_Perfectly_Imperfect]

Gene And Mark Curry for me.

[@ms.niecey2953]

@@Ms_T_Perfectly_Imperfect I brought Mark Curry book couple years ago it was very interesting

[@TRAVELPRENUER0830]

Exactly

[@oldmanjesus9855]

50 Cent

[@The_torero]

Gene spilling ALLLL the tea.😂😂😂

[@bouche8503]

Scored loved

[@HoneyHoneyBaby]

Haha 🍵😭‼️

[@AmaniThurman]

😂😂

[@amanithurman1274]

😂😂😂😂

[@JeremiahDavis-2894]

Yeap he even got a tell all book coming out

[@gabriellehanks6850]

Puff didn't spare Jlo cause she's from the Bronx lol. He kept his hands off of her because she was more famous than him at that time and she had handlers that weren't gonna let a nygga from Harlem hurt their investment. Her fame and proximity to whiteness kept her safe. Misa, Kim, and Cassie were only known in the black community, so they were fair game to him. If he had hit Jennifer it woulda been on the news. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@christines1821]

Yes this was it, she was the one who got away unscathed and this is why. Gene said it best she was high profile and it wouldn’t fly.

[@j04370859]

You could say it was because of both. Her being more famous and being from the Bronx. Jlo would've fucked him up if he had touched her 😂

[@ultramag0343]

🧢🧢🧢🧢

[@2423yay]

Dummy how was She bigger ??? BIG been passed away. Puff was on top of the rap game with bad boy. U sound dumb. , only one part I do agree with she was just as famous. So that wouldn’t fly

[@imperialstats]

If she was just a broke Puerto Rican girl from the Bronx not famous she prolly would've ended up living the life Cassie had with diddy

[@nessarey13]

Damn!! Gene is getting it in with these stories.😂😂😂

[@captaincoon_]

I wish I was on that tour bus. Me and Wolf would’ve been wearing that thang out !

[@cw6072]

Your gorgeous Ms Nessa😏😏

[@kingofuseddurablecars.ls6040]

Gene is LYING for money. Y'all believe anything

[@AmaniThurman]

😂😂😂

[@waynemarshall8836]

Genuinely surprised Gene is still alive at this point 😂

[@tajsandhu7914]

He can't off him at this point it would be too obvious 😂

[@lourday7194]

I woulda been done it cause bruh overdoin it

[@lisadeloachstewart7214]

Diddy know who to fuck with Gene not the one!!!!!

[@Dempsey222]

Storytime with Gene is the best content on KZbin.

[@TheHumanBallsack]

Probably not a suitable storytime for kids though 😂

[@kodeh7931]

It’s story time with uncle gene. Uncle gene

[@jaycee9258]

😂

[@GodIs4u8888]

I can listen to unk all day 😂

[@VegasNights702]

Fr though…the type of uncle you sit at the table wit yo parents and listen to his stories.

[@AmaniThurman]

🤣🤣

[@amanithurman1274]

😂

[@GodIs4u8888]

@@VegasNights702 Facts 🤣

[@TScott-vp9zv]

It’s disgusting how some men treat women and how women allow themselves to be treated!🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Nonameers]

More genderneutral please you cant assume that

[@TScott-vp9zv]

@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0 Let me guess, you have kids you don’t support???

[@Sam-mr2sy]

Hoes are hoes

[@bloodcurdling3581]

​@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0i am a woman and i totally agree with you. Nobody ever forced me to do anything that i didn't want. If i allowed sometimes something to happen,it was my choice. I feel like this is all just money grabbing and it is disgusting. Puffy is obviously an a**hole,but nevertheless they could have walk away. It is all about the money

[@patrickmacon9059]

Jenny from the block probably would've beaten puff a$$ 🤔😭🤣

[@AldermanFredCDavis]

Diddy always struck me as the kind of guy who knows EXACTLY who he can do what to. All these guys Diddy is alleged to have walked up on, and he's still breathing.

[@asamanthinketh2024]

Everytime he says the word orgies I bust out laughing! 😂😂😂

[@amanithurman1274]

😂😂😂😂

[@Chimera_166]

When all your needs are met and everything and everyone taken care of. Your sexual appetite start twitching. Pussy start getting borin and you start liking weird sexual shit. This is why having God in your life is important. The devil can't overcome you never.

[@RawDogTV]

Brings back memories for you?

[@katvorshae]

I laughed too!! 😂

[@Scuba_Bro]

Bro knowing Diddy they may have been white transformers!! Gene probably dodged a bullet 😂

[@rm-vk3dz]

Diddler wanted to see Gene in action

[@SaltyDogSEAL]

Gene be on Diddy like Charleston White be on the rappers 😂

[@AmaniThurman]

😅😅😅

[@murphydaquan]

Puffy over-freaky as hell😂

[@Karl671]

Yes

[@AmberColeman-gq1wn]

You clowns are gay. Slutted out by that human trafficking porn y’all love to watch. Wanting other men to be involved and thinking it’s cute - but judge the hell out of women for even daring to like sex.

[@ripwins]

MANE we need a Dave Chappelle skit😂😢😮

[@gqgq6038]

Diddy a Rick James times 10 lol 😂

[@GHOST91141]

😂😂😂😂

[@Blackstallion007]

Tru' but listen ppl gotta remember tina marine was Rick's (sorta girl - gf - fuckbuddy & singing partner & friend) they were VERY CLOSE she even said that. but she also KNEW Rick was a sure fire Freak. but a Decent Freak *if there's ever such a thing. - diddy is nexxxt level.......like Criminal Minded Shite. like wtf bro. again NOT defending Rick James (even tho he's not present with us to defend himself) and i hate talking smack about some1 who's not Living and or present company to defend themseles......cause thats some boetch shit right there !! Salute'

[@HoneyHoneyBaby]

Haha 😂

[@bmorelo6551]

“ He couldn’t play fight with her “ : Gene Deal 💪🏾

[@SaltyDogSEAL]

😂 Gene , just send Diddy the price

[@AmaniThurman]

😂😂

[@unapologeticallytish9372]

Jennifer said years ago.. she went to a hotel room and was banging on the door and he wouldn't open it! Girl BYE!

[@saintblades]

Diddy couldn't do it to J.Lo because of, Tommy Mottola. Diddy would have had an "accident" real quick 😂

[@LisePlansandJournals]

🎯

[@schoolcounselor6479]

Makes sense.

[@Ms.A.Matthews415]

Big Gene has been telling these stories for years, and now people see that they are true. Diddy was a man who had no morals. He is an undiagnosed narcissist with paraphilia. His behavior is borderline criminal. I believe Cassie and these women. I hope they get justice.

[@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom]

Borderline? He's had several people killed. He is a criminal, a big one.

[@LetsHavaChat]

Borderline criminal?! It’s straight criminal..

[@HoneyLove77]

It's an orgy yall really act like this is a crime!!

[@Ellie80681]

I don’t really give af about consensual exploitation. Everyone is different it’s only if it’s not is a problem. Having ppl killed is a problem imo- trafficking, abuse, etc.

[@stevejones3495]

True That.

[@MookMeen-pd7me]

Diddy being freaky and violent is wild

[@champsvizion7801]

I want a movie or mini series about this dude P Dirdy

[@XantoS771]

"And you can tell the people you roll wit whatever you want But you and I know what's goin' on" 😂😂

[@Syte425]

Gene said “nah I’m good” Puffy said “oooooh I like it when you’re scrape’n & scramblin’ daddy!!”

[@bouche8503]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MT-yx5cu]

😂😂😂 Drink Champs

[@fatstaxx1247]

Damn....😂😂😂

[@DevvGaming101]

Ayooo 😂😂😂😂

[@tellmesomething2412]

The saga that never ends.

[@user-py8wu3kz1l]

Gene telling them to file a suit 😂😂😂

[@not2mention97]

Definitely threw the alley oop

[@toyita4431]

😂 ho shit can't be misinterpreted as SA just saying

[@amiianectar]

⁠@@toyita4431SW can be victims of SA. Honestly those white girls would probably be heard out because of their skin color.

[@Mzkhalifa259]

You got me hooked😂😭I just got off work hoping you dropped a new one.

[@cactusjack2264]

This full interview need to drop already

[@lashundamartin7777]

Gene answered that quick asl you know he not lying 😂😂😂😂

[@jumpman23madj1]

My man big Gene is hilarious lmao

[@cornellbrown8489]

Moral of the story.. don’t tell Gene your business

[@The_torero]

😂😂😂. Dude's singing like Mariah Carey.

[@a.n.3610]

😂😂😂😂

[@marcelletebao2158]

😂😂😂 It was working not been told so is different

[@ahkeeferguson3447]

Damn he telling everything, that could be a human trafficking charge

[@LordHaveMurcielago]

😮 oooohhhhhh….snap!

[@nanamoon7328]

I literally come back every couple days just binge watch 🍷 🍿 🎥

[@TreeHouse2023]

Ya know Gene, It comes to a point where one stops being a bystander and starts being the look out boy👀💀

[@yrnx9334]

Nigga family had to eat at the end of the day. Him quitting was not gone make diddy stop his crazy actions

[@foreverflylove]

bingo

[@burningspear90]

Facts

[@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH]

That’s what I’m saying.

[@magkatcar]

Yeah, I don't think I could have just stuck around for all of that. That would have been just too toxic for me. But, that's just me.

[@naeakanuk]

He really wanted to see what Gene was working with 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Princess-yr2tj]

my thing is he wouldnt dare abuse jennifer lopez but didnt mind putting his hands on black women.

[@zzizahacallar]

1000%

[@Solotv84]

Because Jennifer was high profile, Jennifer was at that time a Superstar, not saying it's right just saying Jen was an A-List actress at the time and also A list Music star

[@livingoodtv2136]

Jenifer would fight him back, she didn’t need him

[@LisePlansandJournals]

You’re shocked?

[@The_torero]

Jennifer was too well known. If he'd done it to her, it would have been on the news straight away. Evil doers who are quite smart instinctively know who they can fuck with and who they can't because they worry about being exposed. Diddy was still building his brand too and didn't want something like that to ruin things for him either.

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Big gene giving those raw and uncut stories man

[@CoachQ773]

He's being a goofy... This is a grown man dancing like a jester

[@Realviews603]

​@@CoachQ773Puffy is that you?🧐

[@CoachQ773]

@@Realviews603 I'm a Chicago ni$$@ ... NOT a New York ni$$@ .. and any ni$$@ over 30 oking a ni$$@ getting mad at another ni$$@ for not taking care of his son and then telling is a 🤡... Puffy??? Puffy is a 🤡 too...

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

@@CoachQ773 damn

[@glorymatondo]

Raw & uncut????? Ayoooooo

[@Mr.International82]

Could you imagine if Charlie Murphy was still alive?! Charlie would play gene deal and chappelle as diddy in a comedy skit for Chappelle show! Sucks the show is no more though.😂😂

[@AlexGarcia-pm3mf]

These stories gettin wilder and wilder 😂

[@achilles8936]

Gene been the only one for YEARS and he finally is getting his shine. Persistence rewarded 🙌

[@scorpio-yp3hu]

He sure is spelling the tea on everything tho in general wow 😂😅😂

[@skinnyminnieog]

not really all of what he saying Gene has said yearsssss ago, it’s only “new” to some ppl

[@WakeAndBakeWithUncleRay]

The Saga Continues ❤❤❤❤

[@Geeksq]

I don't even read the caption of your videos. . I see Gene thumbnail and I jus pushed go🤣🔥

[@Mercyless301]

Diddy turned out to be the freak man of the new millennium🗣Freak man, freak man, yeah that's me!🤣

[@zim_ko-boxing3553]

Bro Aubrey asks one question per interview and Gene special beam cannons the rest 💀

[@Suupaaaa]

Ain’t no strong woman playing those games!😂😂😂😂😂😂 s/o JLo i love you lol

[@user-kz3ur2ph1l]

She probably learned over time nobody starts out strong 😂😂😂

[@Suupaaaa]

@@user-kz3ur2ph1l JENNY FROM THE BLOCKKKKK😈😈😈😂😂😂

[@TB-cg1jk]

She was also a little older when she got involved with diddy. The same crap you accept at 20 is not what you'll tolerate at 30.

[@nancym6089]

I’m so relieved and glad to hear than Jennifer didn’t go through any of the extreme Sex crap and abuse. I feel bad for all the other girls that made bad decisions. No money is worth that. Sad.

[@B1GJOHNSTUD]

jlo was like "idgaf about a hundred dozen roses"

[@mmegwa31]

Gene: (No reaction. He don’t look astonished enough.., AND THEN AND THEN!!) lmaooo

[@Jenna-Sheehan]

Keep ‘em coming

[@macrillatv1502]

Please put a whole interview together 💯

[@zakiasimpson8928]

I like that he said, “ misuse them” and said “ it wasn’t funny’

[@user-py8wu3kz1l]

Why Gene just now saying this 😂😂😂😂 Gene got them secrets Lmmfao Gene got right to it… YO ONE TIME WE WAS ON A TOUR BUS 😂😂😂😂

[@The13thTruth]

I cant wait for the Gene Deal and DJ Akademiks interview

[@GrimeyDex]

How is this channel not at a mil frfr

[@quefrmmts2751]

Everyday I see dis man say some more freaky shit Diddy did 😂😂😂😂 y’all Breakin dis interview down perfectly

[@kingjames2857]

He's rich and famous, should we be surprised 😹

[@stryfetc1471]

I think that's a bit of a stretch bruh! You wanna put this jacket on EVERY "rich and famous" person!?...wow!👀🤣

[@kingjames2857]

@@stryfetc1471 not every, just most lol Jacket seems to fit perfectly👌🏽

[@ThomasCBrownIV]

Looking up is a sign of someone telling the truth he going through memories.. he really not lying 😂

[@Eastpointe]

AD is thee best with interviews!

[@frankshamatey2883]

We need big gene on the show always

[@saveit4last]

Gahhh damnn the stories don't end with this dude😂 gene got all the tea

[@rosequartz7939]

Jenny was in that studio moving speaker boxes 😂😂😂

[@chillborn7945]

Diddy was going to bless Gene's cheeks frfr😂

[@mrocto4839]

Women will do anything for money damn

[@j04370859]

You mean anyone will do anything for money.

[@BC-go5yl]

Them groupies will suck, and fuk just to get on the tour bus.

[@mrshadrich]

Gene is determined to tell everything he can on Puff

[@theatlantaspectator]

It was like .003 seconds between asking the question and Gene answering.😂😂😂😂

[@KritikalPowers]

These stories getting more wild by the day 🤣

[@Mikedaboss123]

I be watching hours of this guys interviews everyday lol

[@BlackGirlUnLOST]

Me too! LOL 😂😂

[@Mikedaboss123]

@@BlackGirlUnLOST shit be having me in a chokehold , sometimes the same Story . It be the same no matter how many times he tells it for YEARS

[@user-rr7pk4er5z]

Gene is just saying anything at this point 😂😂

[@user-kz3ur2ph1l]

And you are obviously here for it.

[@Kalifornia_Dreaming]

That's not true.He held back before because of his book.

[@user-rr7pk4er5z]

@@user-kz3ur2ph1l yea cuz it’s funny and goofy like you

[@real..life..action8034]

Been heard this bc I been rocking wit Big Gene since day 1... salute 😂😂

[@steadymovement6272]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 this dude questions are unmatched and funny as hell !!

[@YungVoice]

P diddy & the P stand for promiscuous 😂

[@TreeHouse2023]

💎💀

[@HoldenMuhKnutz]

(Laughs) “That ain’t funny but that’s what happened.” 😂😂 He wild. But for real, stop acting like these loose women are innocent. They got on that bus and your knowing their role. Remember their body, their choice, right?

[@AmberColeman-gq1wn]

And what kind of men are these ? Loose, bisexual freaks of men- that did any and everything ? Why do some guys feel like this kind of behavior is justified simply due to their gender? You like orgies, with several other naked men and one or two drugged up women laying around? Decent men don’t sit up doing all this wild crazy sexual stuff with multiple people .

[@Threadbow]

​@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0you mean their pimp

[@keithkelsey1946]

How fast gene responded hahahaha😂😂😂

[@CherryClayton]

Big G..you so Real St. Louis cause we don't go behind nasty dude's..frfr You answered my question before I finished typing..frfr

[@znhait]

I know Gene doesn’t like Diddy, but this pure girl talk 😂. These guys with money are freaky. It’s not news.

[@CoachQ773]

I said the same thing... This nigga grown as hell and get mad because Puff don't give him money for his son's criminal case??? These dudes are clowns... They making our generation look soft

[@dradra2day]

Don't be that guy. Know your place.

[@foreverflylove]

@@dradra2day says the 2pac stanley

[@enmodelife]

Just nasty and disgusting! I try to tell other women (married and single) ALL the time, that males pretty much see us as a way to get relieve a daily bodily function...like using the toilet pretty much 😢 and they do NOT consider the consequences (health, legal, emotional, etc) in a logical way like women think they are 😢

[@enmodelife]

​​@@foreverflylove I know from personal experience that what you're saying is true, but it seems to be more rare as time passes. And it is even worse with wealthy men.

[@enmodelife]

​@@foreverflyloveI will forever see BOTH sides of males (married, single, broke, and rich), and advise women to protect themselves accordingly. No one will EVER change my mind about what I see, hear and experience. Because of males, for the most part I feel sorry for women and children.

[@enmodelife]

​@@foreverflylovebelieve whatever helps you sleep at night 😊

[@intrepidfashion]

Talk To Your "God"😮

[@cjlaw228]

Umm…DUHHH !!!

[@ajsassy788]

Damn! Is he getting paid for these tell all interviews? I mean he telling all!

[@vicg3206]

He’s said I’m good… I’m aight 😂

[@bettyboop1568]

Why no one is asking was Clive Davis at those FO parties?! 🤔🙄

[@patrickromanowilliams4878]

A price is always paid for out of control self-indulgence.

[@WestCoastTruckingCEO]

Yep sooner or later it will come back to you and you have to pay the piper. It's about that time

[@intrepidfashion]

Except During Slavery😮

[@blaghdad]

'Hold up imma check the perimeter real quick.'

[@keezemojito1278]

These stories keep coming no pun Intended

[@leroygreen9227]

Jlo had her own money. Thus, she wouldn't put up with the nonsense. Cassie was gold digging and was down for anything to get to that bag. Let's call it what it is.

[@earningthomas4640]

Might be true

[@TheLakers81]

You had me at 2 white girls lol!

[@Forgemno]

Amen

[@sincere8367]

The title alone is CRAZY

[@Ellie80681]

“Daddy” Diddy is the modern day Rick James! 😂

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

Now this took a qwhite interesting turn. Not even surprised because clearly when Suga Puff is intoxicated he like many others releases their inhibitions. As the saying goes "Drunk words and actions are sober thoughts" or something like that