Diesel Treatment - BG, Power Service & Howes

[@billmalec]

Seriously? What are you checking with that, pH? Stick them in a freezer and see which gels first and at what temp. Smoke and mirrors.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Bill Malec This test simply shows that a a few drops of BG treats more than Power Service or Howes. BG is more efficient and requires less to treat more fuel. This test is just to show that the user there is no need to "over treat" and that each ounce of BG treats more fuel than each ounce of competitors treatment.

[@jamezc63]

Bill Malec if he doesn’t bring the temperature of the liquids to below freezing, he isn’t checking the “cloud” point.

[@justincase7524]

I agree. Dumb test. Freeze and show The results

[@maxpain1947]

Used Howes on 3 different Duramaxes and my my cummins i got now. No complaints. Ran off road diesel for years and not 1 fuel problem on any truck.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Howes is a great product! We just feel BG is better and showed that in our test.

[@adamradtke1029]

Max Pain so what you're saying is that you run illegal fuel for road use?

[@maxpain1947]

Adam, where the fuck did i say i was running it illegally for road use you idiot.

[@KH-hg8mf]

Just had my 08 duramax gel up on me , its -15 degrees f ...just prior i tried adding power service that was in the back of my truck that i use just in case on every fill up, and it was like jello and wont come out of the bottle.

[@trickmytractor7187]

Power Service here👍

[@justincase7524]

How do we have any idea what that is you’re putting in there. Isn’t the point to show which prevents freezing better?

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Correct! Freeze point is exactly what this test is! This test shows how much more potent the BG is than the others. As far as what I'm putting in there us a Tyrant solution that emulates freezing.

[@justincase7524]

@@MerzFarmEquip sorry you’re getting hammered here in the comments bud. We just wanna see gel or no gel. Or more gel or less gel. We live in a post truth society. If we can’t see gel or no gel, you ain’t selling the BG, if that’s your goal.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Thats fine your entitled to your opinion. We have seen the results and know the truth. You don't have to believe us. We believe and have seen BG work better than other products. BG also has more lubricity than other antigels which is critical in Tier 4 engines.

[@blackericdenice]

I have a video where I put 32 ounces of the white container in my 2001 Deville. The mpg increase by 4. The only problem is I have a po125, engine running too cool.

[@probuildjohnsonify]

still don't tell you how well it works in cold weather. Doggin on power serves, I've never gel on it

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Luke Johnson You are correct! Power Service is a good product and will absolutely prevent gelling up! However it will take more Power Service to treat the same amount of diesel fuel than BG. 1 quart of BG DFC+ will treat 250 gallons of fuel. As you can see in the video it treats more with less. BG DFC+ also helps clean fuel systems and includes lubricity. Careful not to over treat with Power Service, it may not have enough lubricity...

[@probuildjohnsonify]

I've heard good things about BG but never actually tried it myself. But as far as howels, I always said the reason they call it howels, is because it will leave you howling when you gel up.

[@arthursmith643]

Luke Johnson check out BG224 for Diesel engines.

[@breworbebrewed]

Just got my Ford F250 out of the shop. $286 repair for gelled fuel with a double dose (as directed) of Power Service white.

[@rfusco9251]

I just gelled yesterday with double dose of Power Service. Outside temp was at about 10f with wind. I have used Howes for the last 15 years with all of my various diesels and never had problems with gelling. The store I went into didn't have Howes so i bought PS and paid the price. Never again!!!

[@mattsprayberry0]

Well I use power service in my 2018 Freightliner cascadia when I run I-90 in the winter months in Minnesota North Dakota Idaho Montana and Washington state i see absolutely no problem with the power service it's all I ever use in my teir 4 engine and I've never had a problem with it

[@MerzFarmEquip]

It is good stuff. Just doesnt treat as well as BG and doesnt have the same lubrcity. Nothing wrong with it, just could be better...

[@chadmeirose]

FWIW I-94 is in ND and I-90 is in SD.

[@blackericdenice]

I been driving 13 years and I don’t use any additive. Anti-gel is already in the fuel when it come out the pump.

[@kostasgt500]

I used power service in my 2005 E350 with the 6.0 motor on every fill up, regardless of weather from about 1k miles, up until I sold it few years back with 150k miles. Truck run flowlesly. I also used it on my 2008 F350 with the 6.4 motor. Same results. Maybe other products are better, but for sure you can't go wrong with power service.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

That is an awesome habit to use a product at every fill up goes a long ways to protecting engines! Power Service is a great product. We used it for years! However for the newer Tier 4 engines with tighter tolerances for high pressure common rail systems it is important to maintain lubricity. BG has enough lubricity to keep the proper lubricity in the injection pump.

[@davidmeissner5010]

It would be nice if you mentioned what BG product you are using, maybe zoom in on the label, or maybe just provide a link to the product so we know which BG product it is.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

The BG fuel treatment is called DFC. Diesel Fuel Conditioner. merzfarmequipment.com/shop/parts/all-season-conditioner-2/

[@davidmeissner5010]

@@MerzFarmEquip thanks a lot.

[@clintongraham7226]

What is DCA titrant? What are you measuring, chemically? Is this an ASTM method?

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Clinton Graham This test shows that a a few drops of BG treats more than Power Service or Howes. BG is more efficient and requires less to treat more fuel.

[@clintongraham7226]

That may be so. Maybe not. I cringe at the 'term' efficient. You may have made the formulation more concentrated allowing you to put less in per application. That's all fine, but there are treat scenarios that require a more dilute product. For instance, a product more dilute in solvent is more likely to disperse well and flow in cold temperatures. What is most troubling here is that you equate nitrogen level with detergency concentration/effectiveness. Could it be that different detergent chemistries have variable nitrogen contents? Only testing in an engine test will show which molecule performs best and I see no engine test claims here. . DW10B? DW10C? XUD9? Not even the old L10? Only engine testing will show the true efficiency of the product at preventing or cleaning up deposits, reduction of emissions, or increase of fuel efficiency. Also, nitrogen is not specific to the detergent component. For instance a cetane improver will have nitrogen in it. You can formulate your product with some cetane improver and that will raise your nitrogen level. You may not be providing more detergncy, but have a cetane improver that is not a part of another product and show superiority in this test. Additive customers. Decide what you want to do with your fuel and and the conditions in which you may use the product and look for the best product that will do everything you ask of it. Don't be fooled by dog and pony shows that don't back themselves up with industry testing.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Clinton Graham You are correct. We could have messed with concentrations and fixed the results. BUT we are just a couple guys that sell farm machinery, we aren't scientists and won't claim to be. We don't know how to change the results. We just used eye droppers from our local vet store and diesel treatment from the local auto shops. We simply put drops of products in diesel fuel that we took from our tank in our shop. Simple test at a local level. We didn't show all the manufacturers test results because that's what they are paid to do. We aren't. We are just some simple guys showing this in a simple real world test. If you want industry training use the manufacturers tests, BG has them available. So this "Dog & Pony Show" is just a simple real world test. Not designed to show in Chemistry class at Harvard or anyone wearing a white collar. Just showing farmers, truck drivers, machinery operators that don't even have collars on the majority of our shirts!

[@ErebosOnTwoWheels]

@merz farm equipment You say that the power service product is straight rubbing alcohol, however power service says that the product contains no alcohol. I'm no product fan boy and have never been one to use fuel or oil additives unless it was a necessary treatment at the time. But it's just plain wrong for you to make false claims against power service. That one outright lie in this video kills any legitimacy that you may have otherwise had.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

@ringram0790 - Sorry you feel that way. What we are meaning to show with that statement is the lubricity of the product. We have seen injection pumps from Tier 4 engines fail because of the lack of lubricity. Those same injection pumps had Power Service being used. This is what we have seen. It is simply our opinion and we respect your opinion. We do have a right to state what we have seen. If we have seen this it is 100% true and in no way a "false statement". As an authorized dealer for machinery we recommend using BG in our products. We have seen different products used and we have seen what can happen using any of these products. Therefore because of our experience and history of working on products we have chosen to make these recommendations.If you feel otherwise, we respect your opinion. You are free to use whatever product you would like in your machinery. However if you bring a piece of machinery with a Tier 4 engine to our service department with injection pump issues and have used Power Service it will not be covered by our warranty.

[@ErebosOnTwoWheels]

Merz Farm Equipment I agree that lubricity is important. However, what you said and what you claim to mean are two completely different things. "...It's basically straight rubbing alcohol that's in that power service..." Stating that straight rubbing alcohol is in their product is a blatantly false claim. I don't know that much about any of these products, but I do know that telling everyone that power service is straight rubbing alcohol is a lie and you're wrong for doing that.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Agree to Disagree, and that is perfectly fine. You can interpret it that way and We apologize if you did not understand our comparison. When we start a comment with "It's basically" we are trying to show the similarities between. "It is basically" is like us saying "It is like"I would be happy to watch your video in which you show how much difference there is between rubbing alcohol and Power Service. If you would like to create content I would be happy to watch. You are 100% entitled to your opinion and we are ours. Again our apologizes on you misunderstanding what we were saying. We did not intend to mislead you or any other viewer of this video. Its a simple test to show we do not need to "over-treat" with BG.

[@ErebosOnTwoWheels]

Merz Farm Equipment I understand the comparison now that you've clarified. However, what you said and what you meant were two very different things and that's very misleading. I come from a training and line of work where you say what you mean, doing otherwise often costs a lot of time, money, work and can potentially put people's safety at risk. It would probably be a good idea to add a caption/pop up at that point of the video to clarify what you mean when you say that.

[@jamezc63]

Why don’t you guys simply say what your experience has been, instead of a comment on P S being “rubbing alcohol”.

[@tubecoatue]

I'm not clear on what bg product is being used for anti-gel. Can you clarify please?

[@MerzFarmEquip]

We are using the All-Season DFC+ BG offers a Summer Conditioner and an All Season. The All-Season DFC+ prevents entrained moisture from icing. Obviously the summer conditioner is just conditioner without the anit-gel. In the 1 Quart size the part number is 23232 - 1 quart treats 250 gallons of diesel2321 is part number for 1 gallon & treats 1000 gallons6 oz container is part number 2476, which will treat 25-40 gallons of diesel fuel

[@lovedcups1999]

my 32 oz bottle of HOWES CLEANER & LUBRICATOR SAYS TREATS 320 GALLONS .

[@6ix13ree]

which would work best of a small car diesel? I have a VW TDI Jetta

[@arthursmith643]

C55 try BG224 for Diesel engines. You can Google BGprod.com and go under the catalog section for diesel fuel additives

[@jamezc63]

You can run fryer grease from your local McDonalds. It’s free, but if you get a whiff of exhaust, BOOM....you will find yourself in Lina at McDonalds ordering a Happy meal.

[@qfdforme]

Forget the syringe test.

[@honey8784]

Thanks, Please listen to your audio. Not very good. echo plus low volume, Please redo your audio, thanks foe trying

[@myleshansel7950]

You're audio SUCKS I can't understand a darn thing he's saying,

[@Dyusik]

DK is swelling the rubber plunger as any petroleum lubricant does. Thanks for the BS.

[@blhornertube]

That dont prove shit you can change colors put it in the freezer at -40 °F that's were it counts I'm in alaska and dont use any of that crap in my diesel and have never gelled my fuel.

[@BWWGL9]

Audio SUCKS

[@dhillonsavee]

No clue what he is doing ,what he is saying, , what is BG he is advertising..

[@MerzFarmEquip]

He is testing the potency of the products. Showing there is no need to over treat with BG and how much better a small amount of BG is than competitive products. This is explained in the beginning of the video. BG being used is their fuel treatment.

[@PalRider2000]

I love all your biophysics and chemical engineers in here smh

[@_baller]

Zoom in and get a tripod

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Thanks for your expertise. Next time we will have you be the video director. Until then we will do the videos the way we choose!

[@dieselangel9958]

FPPF and MotorKote have worked best for me, I think BG is Fraud?

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Happy to hear that FPPF & MotorKote are working for you! Everyone has their favorites. We can promise that BG is anything but a fraud! BG is a quality product as this video shows and many of our satisfied customers will offer the same opinion. We would love to see a video that you produce of the FPPF, MotorKote and BG! Let us know what results you get!

[@MerzFarmEquip]

@@abradley211 We would love to watch the video of the side by side test. We proved our point, we will wait to see your proof. We will put BG products up against any other and have shown that. Show everyone your proof...

[@abradley211]

@@MerzFarmEquip You could just send some free product to everyone and let them test it themselves, if your so sure of it.

[@armedfarm3429]

WHAT?>? What's that you say HUH, mic must be in yer shorts. Looks like some kind of goofy experiment using yer product. Did it ever occur to you that none of this make any sense? Use the treatment that works for you, after seeing this garbage I wouldn't use BG if you gave it to me. I've been using Howes diesel treat since forever, it's cheaper, & says on the bottle to use 2 oz' per 5 gallons when below zero. It still cost a lot less. I'm from MN & Huge bottles make up for the double rate. The glass cup starts to thaw the minute they are set on the table, this has something to do with BG's red dye, this is a scam people.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Believe what you want. Howes is a good product. But it doesnt have the lubricity of BG. You can continue to use it, but because it is cheaper and the bottle is bigger are not selling points to us.

[@armedfarm3429]

@@MerzFarmEquip Well they are to real people. I'm not invested in the product.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

@@armedfarm3429 the cheapest route is to not use anything and take your chances. But if you want a product that will keep you from being gelled up AND be good for all fuel systems than a few extra bucks you can get BG. Injection pumps and injectors are expensive.

[@armedfarm3429]

@@MerzFarmEquip You won't have diesel engines & use nothing in Minnesota. Several yrs. ago we had 21 days when the temp never got above zero, I was running. We figure it out.

[@death2pc]

Dude, lose the toothpick. Get a shower AND a shave.

[@MerzFarmEquip]

Were Sorry this is a video on diesel engines. But good luck buying diesel additive from prissy, clean shaven guys who has more of your style in the etiquette department!