VEG OIL VS DIESEL DYNO on the OM606 PATROL Y61, MORE POWER???

Something I've always wondered about but never had the chance to test, this is SVO (straight veg oil) used in this test.
This patrol is fitted with a stock not rebuilt OM606 fitted with our quick spool race turbo kit and our 8.5mm injector pump and a mechanical lift pump, the test was conducted at 20-22degrees air temperature.

[@KingArthurr33gtr]

I used ex veg oil after being used to fry doughnuts, Oh the smell i would pull up down the high st and watch people looking around to see where the doughnuts are🤣🤣🤣

[@mihaly1555]

Hahahaha

[@westtexastll1978]

😂🤣🍩

[@banhitam9696]

Superb bro

[@robingroeneveld4169]

Be careful: you will be a cop-magnet ;-)

[@xmysef4920]

@@robingroeneveld4169 *I see what you did there* ;)

[@billywilliams8833]

I ran a 2001 Toyota Hiace Van on cooking oil for 5 years and it never missed a beat, it was definitely faster running on oil too. In the winter I used to add a couple of litres of petrol to a tank of oil to thin it down.

[@jamesward5721]

50% kero, 50% veg - Mint.

[@fbeale3537]

answered my question without me asking, thanks.

[@joshthomas2536]

Acetone goes well too

[@andyplage6590]

I had 300tdi Duscovery it ran better on Bio Diesel and smoked less aswell

[@jamesward5721]

@@tripplefives1402 Here it's cheaper. It's sold as home-heating oil. You might want to look into sources & what they market it as.

[@Drugaskan]

Driving veg oil for 10 years now in the engines: OM602.939 OM602.962 OM603.972 OM606.964 Never had problems. They key is preparation. You want to start veg in a mercedes diesel? Rebuild the pump and the injectors. Bigger Fuellines min 8mm better 10mm. Keep in mind that you will work with the fuelfilters. Vegoil will pull all crud up from the bottom of the tank. ALWAYS keep a spare main fuelfilter in the trunk and 500ml of veg oil or diesel to prefill the filter !! Also 10mm and 19mm wrench for the screw. Make sure ALL orings are VITON. Buy them at ebay because MB here in Germany still sells them not useable for biodiesel/veg oil. You get the orings and rebuildkit (O-Rings) for the mechanical fuelpump from shops like MONOPOEL Germany. I run 100% veg oil in summer. If you want to drive veg oil in winter, 10-15% gasoline to thin out the veg oil. You can use diesel but it will not reduce the viscosity like gasoline. If the coolant fuel heater works, additonal heating is not required. Adjust the injectiontiming to 11/12 n OT. Sugestion for the injectors are MONARK KCE 27S3 140 Bar for the OM606. Not over 140 bar or the engine will start to knock but not have additional power is my experience

[@SB-pc8iu]

Danke für die ganzen Tipps 👍 Hab da noch ein paar Fragen: Ist der Abgasgeruch wirklich so extrem wie von manchen erzählt wird ? Wurdest du wegen dem Geruch schonmal von den Männern in Blau angehalten & darauf angesprochen, Thema Kraftstoffsteuer ?

[@Drugaskan]

@@SB-pc8iu Moin, ja der Geruch ist nicht zu leugnen. Fahrzeuge mit Katalysator riechen noch merkbar aber nicht so streng wie ohne Kat. Nein noch nie. Die standen schon öfter hinter mir, hat die aber noch nie gejuckt. Auch bei der AU, die Prüfer riechen das und man quatscht drüber aber das wars.

[@SB-pc8iu]

@@Drugaskan Alles klar, danke. Ich denke, dass sich das in Zukunft noch mehr lohnen wird. Ab 2035 soll ja EU-weit das Verbrenner-Verbot für Neufahrzeuge kommen, echt eine Schande. Und damit am Ende so viele Bürger wie möglich von ihrem guten alten Verbrennen auf Elektro umsteigen, werden unsere Politiker schon einen Weg finden um die Kraftstoffpreise weiterhin steigen zu lassen.... 🤮

[@supernovadw]

Nice video, in around 2007/8 I used to have a Ford Escort 1.8 TD and back then cooking oil was about 60p a L. Used straight cooking oil in it for about 18 months with zero issues.

[@Shkafnoe_56]

Мой форд curier 1.8 тоже ездил на масле после картошки фри👍💪🇺🇦

[@lukecowell7516]

Same with my mondeo 1.8dt veg oil or red diesel whichever I was closer too at the time both were around the same price 4 years no issues car unfortunately rusted away

[@kevr4698]

I used to run my Isuzu engined Vauxhall Astra 1.7 on veg oil in the late 00's when it cost approx 54p a litre opposed to around double for diesel. Ran sweet as a nut on it but it was short lived after the price soon increased to approx the same price as diesel 😩

[@christopherhampson265]

Tee Hee ! The Vauxhall diesel engined variant was poo ! Diesel 205 and Sierra with 504 2.3 Pug engines were the business at the time if you could find one !! Good old days 😁😁😁😁

[@kris-english]

I used to run unfiltered WVO in my ZX Volcane (306 DTurbo lump) and just cleaned the chips and rice out of the filter every now and again. Shops loved it because they didn't have to pay a disposal fee. Different take aways, different smells 😂

[@neoquest2012]

I loved my zx td advantage, It had lekky windows Power steering And a blipper to open the central locking... My neighbours were so jealous 🤣🤣🤣 I used to dream about the Volcane 😉 #Technology

[@kris-english]

@@neoquest2012 🥰

[@paulpaintshop103]

Use paint filters £10 for a box of 100 .

[@TheGalifrey]

Diesel engines were originally designed to run on peanut oil. A separate tank with a warmer to thin the oil is the way to go. Start on diesel, switch over when warmed up.

[@ricknel76nelson54]

Canola oil.

[@jakespeed6515]

ATG Diesel Therm kits - I did over 80k miles and claimed 38p a mile when it was 49p a litre, I made so much money back legally I bought a house.

[@TheGalifrey]

@@ricknel76nelson54 Peanut Oil, Canola/Rapeseed wasn't even available in large quantities in the west until the 1950's 🤣

[@ricknel76nelson54]

@@TheGalifreyThank you, you learn something new everyday. Rapeseed oil has been around as a lubricant for a lot longer the 1950s.

[@joshthomas2536]

@@TheGalifrey please educate yourself before responding, rapeseed comes from the Latin word rapum meaning turnip, which is also directly related to mustard and other products like Brussel sprouts, they all come from genus Brassica which the entire Brassica oilseed families are over 4000 years old with oil extractions beginning more than 2000 years ago by the Chinese and Japanese. It's been made millenniums and used decades before it came to market in the mid to late 50s. Tell me more of what little you know😂

[@RoryRevs]

Yet again another fantastic video from you guys! Cannot wait to start running my old Pajero on filtered WVO!

[@danielthornton3277]

I love the comparisons you do. It takes time and we all appreciate your efforts big fella. Cheers, Dan

[@Ephry73]

My question was in the injectors and pump. Thank you for including those details in the video. You guys rock!!!

[@BoostWorx]

Love your videos glad to see you back doing more KZbin stuff again. I was wearing my DPUK t shirt proudly today 😁

[@LaGarajShow]

Hi mate. You should do an emissions test also. Great vid!

[@Alex-bs3ml]

Cand vedeam asta chiar ma gandeam la tine ca ar merge facut un test asemanator si la noi:))

[@LaGarajShow]

@@Alex-bs3ml m am apucat deja sa caut ulei ptr test, dar vreau sa fac ceva diferit

[@MihaiGradin]

Ah... Man of culture. 🤣😂

[@keithrushforth4019]

Veg oil as a fuel is actually carbon neutral as veg oil is not a fossil fuel. All the co2 coming out the exhaust is the co2 the veg absorbed whilst growing. The only carbon footprint associated with it is all the fossil fuels used during the production of the veg oil.

[@christopherhampson265]

Your a fart smeller !! Sorry I meant your a Smart Fella !! My 200 tdi loved the stuff but when I stopped to talk to mates they didn't stop long as it made them starving !!! Ace work Sir 😎😎😎😎

[@guyvanderveken5595]

Brilliant Vid, sign of the times testing alternative fuel source, cleaner and greener, would be great to see more comparisons, fuels and modern vs older diesels that run clean due to fuel. Really enjoy your vids Mate, love this Patrol build, cheers

[@supertramp6011]

Excellent video, busted a few myths, and absolutely no nonsense. Great advice about not leaving veg in the system when laid up. I have used veg oil a lot in the past,but it was too much hassle in the end,usually just run red diesel now . In my tractor,of course.😉

[@daved2352]

Isn't it a bugger when you buy an old site vehicle and they have traces of red diesel in the tank for years and years and years. It's almost like it had some in the tank yesterday ;)

[@fatfalcon3434]

What's red diesel!

[@daved2352]

@@fatfalcon3434 its regular diesel but for agricultural and industrial use which means there's much less tax paid on it so it has a red dye added to it so the police can test your fuel tank for traces of you using agricultural diesel on the roads. If you buy your vehicle from a construction company its a given that there will always be traces of red dye in the tank and you can get away with it easier.

[@fatfalcon3434]

@@daved2352 I see. I doubt the cops would test the tank very often tho, would they?

[@daved2352]

@@fatfalcon3434 no it doesn't happen very often at all. The coppers have to have reason to suspect you're dodgy. Though knowing coppers if they want to they'll find a reason to suspect you

[@C-M-E]

Years and years ago, I helped a friend with the engineering of running his heavy duty diesel on WVO which he got for free from the Chinese food places (they normally fry food cleaner and have to pay to have it hauled out anyway). After filtering, we would add 2% methanol and a few additives and he'd run it all year. Granted he eventually invested in a barrel and pump system, but it was a sweet setup. The smell was fairly pleasant, and this was when we were all freaking out when diesel went from $0.88 a gallon to ~1.45 US. It really only makes monetary sense if you get the oil free or very cheap and you do it in bulk.

[@lowdailys]

This is the best video on the internet to this day, you’ve answered a lot of questions people talk about! Yes if using everyday should be fine if not flush it. I did use Cooking oil which was waste oil for anumber of years in a Polo SDI without a fuel filter I found the fuel filter stock made it run lumpy when I did away with the filter it run fine I did 100,000 miles init just on vedge I was surprised about the numbers it made on the dyno I always thought it felt more torque on vedge.. interesting by the way I run the Polo SDI into the ground an still running when I sold it never did pump or injectors, I did change a starter or 2 I must say. I’m planning to run he om601 onit too 😀

[@ronaldaberson5478]

We converted more than 180 Trucks and 60 cars from 2004 up to 2011 to svo . When you use the DIn Standard 51605 for your could pressed rapeseed oil there will be no problem when you have the right car brand . The hole VAG group PD Technology are the best from 1999 up to 2010 but only the 1.2tdi , the 1.4 tdi and the 1.9 tdi . We change Software in the ECU . We use an oil filter instead of a paperfuel filter and a different pump in the fueltank . The converserion of cars we did with this System comes from Bavaria Germany. When you know what you are doing engines last longer than diesel . The glycerine in the veg oil is a better lubricant than diesel Maybe use for the OM 606 a Mann filter 713/18 and an extra pump in the fueltank . Adjust the high pressure fuel pump 3 degrees earlier injection time . Use coldpressed rapeseedoil DIN 51605 with low Phosphor and Calcium and Magnesium. Don‘t use biodiesel or used veg oil . That contents salt, water etc and will damage your engine .We also converted 270 CDI commonrail. For cogenerators we use the Euro 6 engines from MB . Look at www.pressebox.de/inaktiv/john-deere-gmbh-co-kg/Teller-und-Tank-ein-nachhaltiges-Nutzungskonzept-fuer-reine-Pflanzenoele/boxid/472120 For more questions : [e-mail]

[@keithrushforth4019]

I used to have an old Renault Clio that I ran on veg oil for years with no ill effects. At the time diesel was about £1,30 / litre and new veg oil was about 90p, so the savings were worth the hassle. It seemed to run a bit smother on veg oil than diesel, which I think was due to the veg oil burning a bit slower.The only down side was the lack of any viscosity control additives, so during the winter cold starts could be a problem. I got around this by using a diesel veg oil mix during cold weather. But during the summer it ran fine on pure veg oil. I did toy with the idea of making some sort of inline fuel heater but never got around to it. As for leaving it standing, when I eventually stopped driving it due to a gearbox problem I left it standing for about a year. When I decided to scrap it I trued to start it just to see if it would, and it started right up no problem.

[@steveunderhill6570]

I used to use 100% veg oil in numerous cars, amazingly everytime derv went up so did veg oil fact

[@ori4640]

The high-pressure injectors not only spray more efficiently and more quietly engine, but the injectors can also spray diesel fuel at high RPM, so more power in less time in milliseconds. Thanks for your video. 👍

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Awesome stuff man!

[@onkelt2624]

Dear DP, nice Video. I'm a Waste-Vegetable-Oil-Driver on my OM606 W210, the Specs: DN0SD265 with 160Bar, 8° past OT, heat Exchanger for WVO . Thank you.

[@shaun6547]

I use that oil in the pizza shop I work in. For a 20 litre tub of it, it's gone from about £30 to over £40 in a few weeks

[@tobulus2969]

Great Video. I have been running veg oil in my 124s and 140s now for 18 years. Cant say it is no problem or I never had an issue. First: Letting the car sit for some time is no problem. I have cars I only run in the summer, not even every year. No problem at all. I always keep the fuel tank full. The problem ist with veg oil: It will glue up when it has contact with air. The bigger the surface, the faster that happens. An injection pump filled with veg oil and sitting on the shelf will glue up in two or three weeks. In a sealed fuel system, you can let it sit for two years without that happening. But be sure to always keep the fuel system out of leaks. Even tiny leaks will make a huge mess, because the oil will stick and glue up an build up huge crusts of resin... If you begin with veg oil, change all the sealing rings in the fuel system, they will begin to leak soon and make a huge mess: O rings in the lift pump, o-Rings in the later fuel lines, O-Rings on the pressure valve holders on top of the pump. Replace the leak-oil lines on the fuel injectors, they will break soon. All fuel-touching metal surfaces will change to a brown color that looks like rust, but it isnt. You can clean it off, but it will not affect the function Glowplugs will die a lot more often than on diesel fuel, you can minimize it with good injectors and a higher opening pressure for better atomization. Do not install a big preheater for the fuel system unless you really have to. High-heated oil will build up resin in your fuel tank, that would normally not happen.

[@philipptruveller7829]

Wondering how good the w140 is on oil. Are you running it in a Om603 or 606 engine? Turbo or NA? I’m looking for a OM606 turbo w140 to convert as the 603 had rod problems. What’s the best course of action for me? I’m in North America so w140 OM606 was never brought here. I will need a 1996-1998 w140 gasoline and throw a om606 inside.

[@tobulus2969]

@@philipptruveller7829 It was a 350, but swapped the engine for a 606 using the 350s mechanical pump. Also swapped in the 6mm elements for better power.

[@philipptruveller7829]

@@tobulus2969 how hard is the swap to 606? 2 good w140s near me both 1992 om603.97 engines. I’m a little scared to be honest. Retrofitting an veggie oil system only to have rods bend 😢. What say you?

[@tobulus2969]

@@philipptruveller7829 Bent rods do not happen very often, blown headgasket or cracked heads are the problems. The swap is not that hard to do, build sth for the throttle linkage and fit the intercooler if you dont want to go hot turbo

[@philipptruveller7829]

@@tobulus2969 what would you do? The w140 I’m looking at, 2 of them actually. One has 280k km and the other 475k km. No way rods would be an issue right? I plan on doing head gasket anyways because it’s 30 something years old. I will rebuild top end anyways. Both cars are 1992 350SD. Would you bite the bullet? And if the engine shits the bed go look for a om606?

[@jaffasoft8976]

Spot on. I ran the stuff, didn't flush with diesel at all. The injector pump stopped at 3000 kilometers. After taking apart 1HZ IP it was putrid inside, rusty sticky gooey film on everything metal which is about everything inside the pump. It cleaned easy with diesel and a tooth brush. The original diesel metal tank was double putrid and have rusty looking stuff in there. I had twin tank system heat exchanges, filter etc. The wvo tank was 100% svo and it was clean and good. Plastic everything as much as possible is the go. I took the HE off and drained it, it was putrid too. This was travelling on the road and probably much rougher svo then recommended. I was new at it so a learning experience. I filtered through 20,10 Micron cartridge house water string wound filters. The filter in the vehicle was about 5-8 Micron. Motor was newly rebuilt, IP was brand new, injectors were brand new. Coldest i started stopped was 8 degrees Celsius. It started after couple turns over but under normal temp it was starting any old time of the day pretty much straight away, little puff of black smoke then clean and clear. Slowly that changed and got worse until was running rough, had to floor it to get going sometimes in second gear, pump was failing a week or two then finally died. The injectors were caked up, i tested out of vehicles and decided to buy new. Been a nightmare to be honest. Would have rather just buy diesel. But i've come this far, i'v rebuilt IP myself with a new head and rotor and about to see if it will start drive again. I will run diesel and looking at filtering the oil VERY well in an upsettling system for a long lot of months. See my vid for what i built. Will 100% start and purge well on diesel and only use the wvo on long trips. Got to be very careful with oil selection and still you can go wrong, so easy to get water or bad batch and you can't see it. Esp with tin oil containers in OZ you cant see whats in the container. Maybe running a blend or some call it a mix is better too so viscosity and flowing better burning cleaner and all general systems.

[@jfv65]

You should see what they use in diesels on ocean going ships. I believe they pre-heat the low quality fuel oil before they can inject it in the engine. It's full of sulpher as well.

[@MrFunkia]

I used to run a Skoda Octavia 1.9sdi on bio-diesel, which I bought at 200 litres for £160 - that was a long time ago! Bio-diesel is what you should be running as it's viscosity is closer to diesel. Things to watch for are it picks up all the crap from your tank, so don't be surprised if you need to replace your fuel filter. Sometimes it can lead to swelling of rubber seals also. Run it mixed with normal diesel during the winter as this stops it from "freezing".

[@6ettinold]

Used to run an old MK1 Pajero back when veg oil was 39p a litre from Lidl & Aldi and diesel was £1.10 - £1.20. I used to sit the bottles in a bucket of hot water and would stand outside pouring each one in the car. A full tank would take about an hour to pour in. But the savings made it worthwhile. Ran this and an old Citroen Synergie ( XUD with Bosch fuel pump ) on SVO for 50k miles+. Apart from initial issues with fuel tank washdown, both ran flawlessly with no injection or filter issues.

[@klikboers]

My brother has been running both a Cummins 6BT and a VW 1.9 TDI on nothing but filtered waste oil. His Jetta still gets something like 50mpg. Completely free fuel source that we were previously paying to have removed.

[@Bryan-wo6gx]

Kyle, have any info on a good filtration setup?

[@florianlindinger6430]

All the old oil from the tractors and combines go straight in my Nissan Micra with a 1.5 Diesel engine. Made 58 HP stock now about 100 with an 2.5 Tdi turbo.

[@TheBlibo]

Hi I used to run around in shoguns a few years ago and through the summer ran 100% veg oil waste or fresh but come the cooler months I would add up to 30% diesel to reduce the viscosity, there was a greater price difference back then but you could see the price of oil go up and down with the price of diesel Have fun keep up the good work

[@TheNiekerk]

Great content as always. I enjoy these videos very much. I would like to know more about your water to air intercooler setup. I have a 1KD-FTE with top mount intercooler and am going to upgrade. I was thinking about the air to water but there is not too much info. I see you like running these setups and would like to know what you think. Cheerz

[@DrCrunkMusic]

Another banger boys 👌 I want a billet intake mani for my mini 🤣

[@darrendean21]

I ran a Citroen ZX for four years on pure untreated waste oil from a kebab shop. Did some pretty high mileage. All I did was crudely gravity settle it to let the water settle out. Never had a single issue and sold the car on. If the pump went the savings more than covered it .... but like I say I never had any issues. Now I chuck used engine oil in .... again no issues so far.

[@mw3goymw3goy]

Thanks for the honesty

[@OverlandTT]

Used this over 20 years ago and again when CRD diesels came about. Never had any issues...

[@napraznicul]

I was using vegetable oil for TWO YEARS on a vw AAZ engine (VM pump, not in line as your om606 got) but same injectors. After some ten months did not start anymore. I just changed the pump, then everything was just fine. So is no permanent damage for injectors. Pump was miserable inside, probably if i would dissasembly and clean .. would work just fine. I was using veg oil (short time) in direct injection too, but in a low pressure one (vp37 -@230bar)

[@liamhollin8265]

Hello mate, just discovered your channel, well interesting. This one I can add to. Years ago I ran an old Peugeot 405 naturally aspirated deseil on chip oil deseil mix( 70 percent chip oil 30 percent deseil) it ran better on used chip oil, than fresh brand new oil. I ran it past me scientice mate. He instantly replied" that makes sense, when you cook in oil,the food releases carbo hydrates, which spelt another way is hydro carbons. By cooking in oil it becomes enrich in energy, so fuel has more energy in it" it totally made sense what he was saying. The old Peugeot sadly died, when the sills rotted out. I kept the engine. Use to have alot of stray dogs following me, it smelt like a mobile barbecue. The neighbours use to complain about the smell, I use to tell them" thats the smell of success". In the process of resurrecting me nissan ld28 to fit in to me defender. The crappy 300tdi died a few years ago, the nissans been in me shed for years. That used to run on chip oil, it loved the stuff. I'll keep you posted on the progress. Keep up the good work👍👍👍👍

[@machiningbasics1729]

That patrol is incredible

[@mightyfinejonboy]

cut the diesel with waste hydraulic oil?

[@upperroomtoo]

I had a 1984 F250 with 6.9 IDI diesel. I drove it three years to college on WMO. I put over 30K miles on it in that time. It had dual tanks and I would switch to the tank with diesel in it about ten miles from home so that I shut it down at night on diesel and start in the morning on diesel. That engine had 320K miles on it when I broke off a glow plug that fell into the cylinder. Instead of pulling the heads I put a new engine in it.

[@dieseljett1]

I had a VW Jetta with a veg oil kit. Had a standalone tank in the trunk with an internal engine coolant-fed heating loop to warm up the oil. And had electronic switched valves. So would run the car on diesel until at operating temp, then switch over to oil. Then switch back to diesel again before shutting it down to flush all the veg oil out of the system. And it also had a purge valve that would switch the diesel return line from the main tank over into the veg oil tank to flush all oil out of the lines back to the tank. It was a great system that always worked well. I used it for many years just for my work commute, and would only fill the regular tank with diesel like once every other month. Saved me loads which was great for a broke teenager! Although getting used oil got annoying and I would never do it again

[@bjrnarlangeland434]

How long did you let your car run for when you changed back to diesel before shutdown?

[@dieseljett1]

@@bjrnarlangeland434 I would switch it over from the veg oil to regular diesel like 2 or 3 miles before I reached my final destination. Then after parking I would hold the Purge switch (which was a momentary rocker switch) for about 15 seconds. Then shut down. Ran that car thru 5 Montana winters with temperatures regularly deep in the sub-0°F and never had a single problem.

[@alkhashtee]

Great video, thank you. Also I have question if you can just answer it please, where is the ECT sensor is located on OM606 non turbo engine?

[@antoniohinojos3808]

I'd be interested in seeing blend test, maybe a 20/80 or 10/90, something that you can realistically run for a lil bit.

[@bigfatnick]

I used to be the guy doing it in Garforth Tesco car park 15 years ago when it was 30p/litre ago in my £300 naturally aspirated 1.7 mk3 astra. I only ever ran it 50/50 mix ,with diesel. In a car that'd only do 90 on diesel, i was convinced it was faster. Out of interest, RE your injector hole size comments. If its been running for hours and the liquid in the tank is bathwater warm, would you get different dyno results with veg oil that might squirt a bit easier?

[@krausrepair1171]

I bought a 1984 300D that had been sitting for around 6 years with veggie oil. First time I started it she revved straight to redline then shut off. It wouldn't restart until I figured out the IP fuel rack was gummed up! 4/5 injectors were fine, the one that was bad wasn't horrible, just not good enough to put back in. Fuel tank and lines were unbelievably nasty and took a lot of effort and solvent to clean. The turbo OM617 runs fine to this day on regular diesel

[@andrewmoroney2381]

Great video. I think it would be interesting to see if there are differences with different types of oil ie peanut oil, rapeseed oil etc.

[@xyoungyx]

yes baby.been waiting on a video like this for a while.i used to run my old tds on cooking oil now and again.always said it loves it and felt a bit faster.just swapped to a m57 now.cant run it anymore lol.i never used it pure btw.used to just put like 20L on top of 20L or so.was always like a half n half mix.wouldn’t ever see oil goin to lard to me only lard goes back to hard.oil stays oil next test please old used engine oil and ps cooking oil smells better than diesel death breath if anyone ever followed me home to close i used to put the smoke mod on-evry mod and smoke them out.almost guaranteed to make them hungry too lol good work mate 👌🏻

[@willshaw24]

Vegetable oil from bookers at clifton moor went straight in my nissan bluebird 2.0 dlx back in the day and ran perfectly, I also used to empty the tesco shelves at the time for there vegetable oil, 47p per litre, probably 2002ish. Put it in my 1997 audi a4 1.9 tdi at the same time (non pd) and it didn't like it from cold. Also used it on a 306 d turbo but the pump failed (2 different types apparently)

[@tombush4000]

Great video bub! Enjoy your break down of everything your doing and why I work for biodiesel plant in Maine USA And how there are misconceptions Now I can share this with my customers

[@tombush4000]

Just got my first 606 doner yesterday

[@dominicwebb8000]

I used to run the Costco veg oil in two Toyota’s. Thinned down by adding 10% petrol and it seemed to work ok. That was until the 200l drum I used to mix and store it developed the dreaded algae goo like stuff, pumped 70l into the tank and it blocked the filter and the tank outlet- gave up after that. Makes the exhaust stink as you pointed out too.

[@TheGuruStud]

add fungicide and keep it dark.

[@MrAndrius12]

Never thought I'd finally see a video addressing this topic :D I wonder how kerosene would perform.

[@Nicks675]

Need to add automatic transmission fluid or 2cycle oil in order to use straight kerosene. Kerosene has less energy than Diesel #2

[@markburnett7461]

I add a bit of engine oil to kerosene so far no complaints

[@MrAndrius12]

@@Nicks675 from my experience I have noticed a tiny bit of laziness (nothing dramatic, you can easily mistake it) but was wondering how much of a difference it would be.

[@MrAndrius12]

@@markburnett7461 yeah, I sometimes did 50/50 mix with diesel or oil at times for my 2.5TDS when it has been sitting up for long and I hadn't been driving it much just because it's cheaper. Not gonna lie, it worked very well. If I used straight kerosene, I may have noticed a tiny difference, but nothing of significance.

[@markburnett7461]

@@MrAndrius12 I'd always have diesel in tank as well,was running rough few months back and started using kerosene with oil and it seems to have cleared problem inpa showed injectors all within tolerance with flow when no3 had initially been showing +5.0 and above,e46 330d

[@davorinrusevljan6440]

Have you made any of necessary VO mods, like fuel heaters? It is not good idea to run it on unadapted engine

[@orbisaustralis7608]

Just did it on the 2.8 Pajero , 15% reduction on EGT temps , and the turbo seems to spool faster .. filtered it down to 5 microns and cut it with diesel 50% , Diesel in Chile is about 1.3 USD/Lt .. im getting wvo from a few clients who run restaurants.

[@johnblair2939]

can you mix the veg with the diesel in the same tank together?

[@bert5003]

in a perfect world do you need to change timing to compensate for the change to veggie oil? from this test it wouldn't seem so but I'd bet I'm missing something here

[@lukeparker9548]

I had to jump on this 😁 ive ran loads of cars on svo definatly the best ones are the old NA peugeots and vag diesels and the old NA benz engines. I was suprised watching that patrol i had a standard e300td and even on a mixture of svo and diesel it was terrible sounded like a old cement mixer 🤣🤣. Nice and simple 70/30 mix in the summer and 50/50 in the winter was ok unless really really cold. And then every 10 tanks or so good wash through with just diesel. All my cars were fine filters were normal. Good vid btw

[@BinneReitsma]

I'm using used engine oil filtered with a centrifugal micro filter, after that I mix it with 1-50 with petrol. Runs like a clock and I feel allot of more torque coming from the engine, also less smoke then with diesel. Engine is a D24t in a Volvo 740.

[@RoryRevs]

Oh wow! I had a 940 with that exact engine! Wish I'd never sold my volvo :( I'm about to start doing the same as you but in a '94 mitsubishi pajero, can't wait!

[@samgraham4168]

A litre of petrol into a cube of veg helps. I went all over Europe in a Rover 45 TDI on straight fresh KTC cubes thinned with a little petrol. Glorious stuff, but not for the faint hearted if you're not mechanically inclined.

[@beardoe6874]

@DieselPumpUK, how do you think it would work with 130 BAR injectors and maybe slightly larger pump elements? I would like to do it in an OM605 but would be happy with 200hp at the wheels. I will probably build a trailer with a barrel on it to collect WVO and a pump to transfer it to a gravity fed filtering system at home in the yard so very minimal mess and it will all stay outside. Another pump will be used to transfer the filtered WVO in to my tank so that should not take much time. I should be able to fuel my vehicle for practically nothing doing it that way. I'm also going to have an "overlanding" trailer that can haul lots of extra fuel and eliminate the need to pay for lodging on road trips around the US. I might possibly convert my WVO to Bio-diesel if I can scale up the process to reasonable batch sizes and do it cheap.

[@Theriangirl673]

We all ways ran a 50/50 mix of veg to diesel in the winter months and summer went to 80/20, the diesel helps thin it down and stops congealing, would like to see you do another run on 50/50 mix

[@R3Cat]

Yeah i really wish he went to fill it up at the petrol station to get the mix right nice up to 50/50, do some bumpy driving mix it up and come back. the results will probably be boting right because it'll be indistinguishable from the first and second test, something in the middle, but for the sake of science and getting the test done i just really wish he did it.

[@user-et6ti3vd3k]

I from Ukranian and I have Patrol with M57(218hp BMW). Its very nice car))) I changed engine zd30 2 mounce ago. I dont try veg oil))) You have an interesting car, I subscribed. shake the hand)

[@mmontiso]

To make it make since you’d need to have a setup to filter used veg oil or WMO with a heater and other sorts of processes at your house and pump it like at a petrol station. It would likely take a year or so to come out net positive financially but it would be a cool learning experience.

[@RickBaconsAdventures]

Can confirm the main concern other than cold places is it making a mess in the tank.

[@warrengage9536]

I've been running my Gen 1 Pajero with 4D56T on UVO since 2016. I blend about 10% paraffin or diesel with it and she's been happy. Cost me nothing to collect the oil. Smells like popcorn mostly.

[@TheFrancisHuffman]

Nice to see this being tested. Any chance you'd test it on used veg oil as I've found used veg oil definitely burns better than new. Only problem is it'll be thicker and needs to be cleaned fully. You may also have to warm it up so that the fuel pump doesn't struggle to pull it through. I'm like you, I'd never leave veg oil sat in a fuel system, so by twin tanking it you always leave diesel in it. Win win.

[@1oldskoolluvr]

Not sure how "common knowledge" it actually is, but everything i've ever read on forums (regarding using SVO/WVO systems) everyone has said to run twin systems - especially in colder climates. Start up/cool down on regular diesel, and run the veggie oil while crusin' down the road. A few guys had run in-tank/line heaters so they could run their systems year-round (they lived in colder climates). With diesel prices having been steadily above gasoline over the past 10-12 years (& diesel skyrocketing the past 18 months alone) it's definitely an alternative i'm looking deeper into designing a system for my trucks.

[@TheFrancisHuffman]

@@1oldskoolluvr 100% Agree. Always twin tank.

[@nuvey7939]

Buddy of mine put a 20L veg tank under the hood of his truck, and plumbed a heater core inside the tank. He runs diesel, and once at running temp, he switches it to veg. Then he switches back to diesel about 15min before getting where he’s going. He has similar concerns as you with veg solidifying in his fuel system. And if he ever runs out of veg, he has a full tank of diesel as a reserve until he gets more.

[@jmills1549]

Good information....lad I knew put cheap heating oil in his car..... And it never ran again.... Pump, injectors fkd......i tried vegy oil.... Yes it works... But diesel best..... My old citroen 1.6hdi.... 213k on clock, 65 mpg.... Bought for £100, 7 years ago... Still going strong.... Good vfm.

[@christianh.8408]

I use wvo for over 150k km and dont have any problems, also my pump builder didn't had any problems with the build of my 606 pump it only gets chewy and glue like if it sits with air around it... my price is about 70cents cheaper with buying dewatered already cleaned wvo. In my shop i have usually 2-3.000l and an electric pump one fill up takes around 5min.

[@hamilton3072]

Thanks! this is the video i have been waiting for. is there a good idea to make another tank to start and stop on diesel. And switch to the outher tank while driving? Can u do that electronicly/automaticly? relayes and stuff?

[@stevebygrave831]

Yes you can get the relays on ebay.

[@numbersix8336]

As soon as I can afford it I would like to have these boys remap my 2012 E220!

[@AntiGooseAction]

would you be able to try using "homemade biodiesel" by adding some methanol/ethanol into the veggy oil? its supposed to thin out the oil somewhat

[@Noncreativecontent]

Used veg oil works well for me. Use it in a 1.9tdi pd130. Getting it from an Indian place put it through a paint filter. It is time consuming to set up. But once the oil in pre filtered then it just goes into the paint filter bag. It holds close to 10l at once. Mix it with 40percent diesel ⛽️ then its all good to go. Only downside is the cold starts below freezing and I'm always wanting pakora when driving 😄.

[@Noncreativecontent]

Use it in a car that you don't feel sorry for.

[@AKA_Wolfhound]

Very interesting results. Do you use the Jet station? I’ve found over 15 years their standard diesel gives a noticeable difference in torque over every other forecourt, and an extra 1 or 2 mpg. Tested this over the years on a VW T4 2.5, E320 w210 and a handful of mondeo mk3s.

[@dianawalker9320]

what about running 50%veg and 50% diesel , do you need to run a preheating system or just run it as is ?

[@nagyandras8857]

Indeed in its raw form its a bit thick.. In the late 80's people used pre-heaters to make the stuff Flow better. However give used veggie oil a run too. Sure filtering it is a pain, however its thinner by a lot. Not sure, maybe some parts of the oil get burned out while coocking, not sure. Anyways it had no issues, expect for heavy Winter Times. Cold and thick oil don't mix well.

[@Savagetechie]

when my dad was running SVO he was getting single use stuff from a TA base for 15p a litre, single pass through a filter into a drum with a pump... Crazy cheap at that point.

[@joshthomas2536]

Hey Luke what's the price range to have a built OM606 landed in Australia?

[@francocozzo7235]

Can you get your hands on B100? Would be interesting to see what B100 biodiesel would do in comparison to regular petrodiesel. Company in Adelaide, Australia was making a very high quality B100 from tallow, which is a waste product from our beef industry and it worked well with better lubrication properties in comparison to petrodiesel, until the government applied fuel excise to bio-fuels and killed it overnight when it wasn't economically viable anymore.

[@positiveaspect5730]

im just wondering what you mean about the car liking wvo because of the low pressure engine? where can i find that info on the specs? i want to run my 09 ford ranger on a 50/50 blend wvo/diesel. the engine seems to be the same as the patrol (patrol is my dream truck). i just want to check the engine pressure is similar. i not know much about cars. I live in Sydney Australia but I hail from Ossett

[@tim8505]

I have a fuel filter sandwich plate that heats the oil up and I start and stop on normal diesel (second tank) on a Bosch ve 300tdi landy works real good! I disassembled the injectors and pump and it seems to be all good after 20kkm Cool video by the way!

[@sim6699]

Do you run a closed loop or any other heaters?

[@tim8505]

@@sim6699 nope I just have two Ball valves to switch feed and return and just run the cooking oik when the water temperature is high enough.... it will mix a bit but not to bad

[@polaris6644]

Gotta love the marshmellow motor mounts

[@angusnz7910]

Was as keen as anything till I heard for say ‘these low fuel pressure engines love it, not so much the new stuff’. I’ve got a 2016 bitdi VW….is this any good for that or do you have recommendations?

[@nehuengabriel2103]

What can you do with commo raíl engines? I heard that if you heat the oil, it gets a better viscosity.

[@Stale_Mahoney]

i wonder if used veg oil is less viscus than unused as it has been boiling over and over and maybe some of the more viscus stuff stays to the food?

[@JParkes43]

Would the injection system on a mk4 golf 1.9 pd be capable of using the veg oil

[@mglmouser]

Thought you were supposed to mix in some diluter in there, like ethanol, for this to work well?

[@malcolmyoung7866]

Used veg oil in my Hijet diesel van (1200cc.....yeah...I know) and my Pug 106 1.4 non turbo. Kids always thought they were getting candy floss because of the smell, neighbours thought I worked in a chip shop. Anyhoo, they both ran very well on veg oil. BUT starting during the winter was a 'long crank' so to speak. Having moved on to VW LT 35 with VE pumps I would still use it BUT have a greater mix of diesel to veggie oil..Bought a 'scrap pump' off 'Fleabay' for shits and giggles...it had been run on veg oil and it was a right mess...moisture having corroded a lot of staining and corrosion. My sisters Chevy Trax(1.7 VDCi turbo) will NEVER get the veggie treatment... In 'Modern truck applications'...McDonalds trucks are run 'soley' on reclaimed vegetable oils...IF you believe that....

[@1pikeybob]

I used to run SVOin my Mitsubishi Pajero 2.8. Ideally needs to be mechanical fuel pump. Ran 50/50 veg/diesel in winter as the veg oil thickens up. Had to change the fuel filter about 3 times when first running it, as it clears all the shite out of the tank and fuel lines. You can use a preheat system. You have to keep a record of how much veg oil you use including receipts and if it ember rightly only 2500lts per year. If you get caught running it the tax man can slam you unless ya keep records👍

[@p38ligtning]

Important detail if you want to run veg oil. It rots the rubber fuel hoses, and they eventually start to leak. It's a good idea to replace them with silicone hoses

[@neoquest2012]

Veg oil will clog not rot the rubber, methanol in badly made bio diesel is the problem for most modern silica/rubber components...

[@mrsmith906]

New Rapeseed/Sunflower type Vegetable oil will not solidify in the tank in U.K. conditions, it will initially clean up any condensate water and can also collect sediment etc. which is then held by the filter. New users often experience a blocked filter after a few hundred miles - possibly several on an old system that is full of crud. After the initial use period it'll run fine. Some users thin with 5% petrol to help it flow & run smoother, some users thin with diesel perhaps 70% diesel in winter, 70% veg oil in summer. To get the best from veg oil you need to be collecting used oil, settle it to drop out water & sediment then filter to 1 micron and run it through a twin-tank system with solenoid switchover valve for mostly FREE motoring.

[@denzel_2379]

do the same test on used engine oil. I heard that people use such fuel (waste oil 80% + 20% diesel + settling + filtration) and change nozzle nozzles every 50 thousand kilometers. or tell us your opinion about this option. good luck

[@GreaseMonkeyVIP]

Your dyno results, is the torque output at the wheels or at the engine? I've heard you explain multiple times the horsepower side of the results but I have never heard you say the torque aspect whether it is at engine or at the wheels? Im guessing it's at the engine?

[@homer23422000]

I live in the U.S. and everything I've read about running waste veggie oil (or new, I guess) is to run two fuel tanks, have the second smaller fuel cell in the trunk with the waste veggie oil with a heater element in it to make it thin out, especially in cold climates, and only run it when you're driving around, and to use the diesel for startup and turning off the engine. It's more expensive to build that system, but much more reliable, if it's feasable.

[@onlyfamz]

Very interesting video. Goes to show how much money we give to the oil companies.

[@ledeuce4820]

Good sir, I am very curious as to what kind of mileage you get out of your Nissan, if you could tell me the value in l/100 km I would be very grateful

[@djredhareaus38]

I used to run wvo with 15% petrol it would be interesting to see what power difference there would be

[@positiveaspect5730]

What motor was that in please?

[@lolesoffroad]

I drive on west veggie oil for about 10 years in a Nissan td42 with dual tanks Start on diesel switch over when engine hot finish up on diesel so you flash the system. No issues and I drive on it in the winter to. Depends how you clean the oil I’m running a centrifuge 6000 rpm and heat the oil to eliminate moisture. And to answer your question Luke I opened the tank to change the sender clean can’t tell that’s veggie. I’m Olson running a ford 6.0 for 3 years with no issues But it depends how you are setting up. Do I use a single tank system no I would never use it that way dual tank Never an issue.

[@COM70]

So basically if you thinned it out (heat and maybe something else ?) you would have a bit more power ?

[@gamingxbox]

you can find used for 20p a litre tbf, but then theres the messy ballache of straining it, settling it ect. It gets everwhere, it stinks of whatever was cooked in it, need a inline pump heater hooked up in the winter to even get the car to start.

[@dorsk84]

55gal drums, with a filtered pump. Local catering company had a 2 trucks with 2nd tanks for the oil. Yes they had to heat the tanks in the winter, and they had to switch over to diesel for 20 miles or idle for 30 min before shutting down. They would burn less than a gallon of diesel a day. And the oil was free. They just collected oil from restaurants.