Difference between Mountain House and Wise Freeze Dried Food

[@ForbiddTV]

Here's a taste test video I did a couple years later between three brands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@chaniatreides9513]

There really hasn't been a brand that has been god awful as far as taste except for augison farm banana cereal and their lasagna. But their taste in general is pretty good. I like mountin house, I never tried wise though but yes that price is better and I'm fine with soy here and there. Also I highly recommend Augison farm honey cornbread its the best cornbread for the price.

[@jericho1-4]

I work in the disaster response field and often wonder if this would be a viable option for meal distribution to those in need. Though the company I work for is a privately contracted entity that performs multiple task during a disaster food distribution is not one of them and in performing the tasks we are contracted for often come across those who are in desperate need of food and end up giving away our MRE's which we are readily able to replace. Especially here at home, unless you have lived through a flood hurricane tornado or wildfire like those currently burning in California or are there during the aftermath you truly can't grasp how rampant food and water shortage really is. FEMA is a damn disgrace and should never be relied on for any help so I'm wondering if this product is something we could use in our field.

[@ForbiddTV]

@@jericho1-4 Mountain House has been supplying the military with freeze dried rations since the 60's in a type of MRE called Long Range Patrol: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LRP_ration

[@dewayneearley9103]

@@ForbiddTV if you buy the cans how long are the good for after opening?

[@ForbiddTV]

@@dewayneearley9103 The manufacturers make no claims. Once you open the cans, you should consider them leftovers. Then figure out how long you would keep leftovers.

[@wcody777]

This is one of the best, most researched videos I've ever seen. Cheapest vs. Less Expensive is an excellent starting point. I also appreciate Portion Size vs. Cost; Real Meat vs. (TVP) vegan; Freeze Dried vs. Dehydrated. Price isn't everything as you so succinctly illustrate. The end result is to have shelf-stable food that you can eat when the time comes, that kids will not reject. Let's face it: it's always about the kids, but childless adults are also consumers. Keep up the good work. My neighbors' child has a tree nut allergy, and I have an onion and shellfish allergies. You make it easy for your viewers to make informed decisions. Please keep up your good work.

[@mac11380]

You could always eat the kids....lol

[@meusatrumtempestas]

'When all of your neighbours are eating bugs and grass..." Simply priceless.

[@michaelmongillo1237]

Laundrew .. WHATS WRONG WITH BUGS N GRASS. "LOCUST IN THE WILDERNESS" and SMOKE THE GRASS.... YOU WILL FEEL FINE.🤣😄😅😂

[@donaldhicks3359]

my neighbors will be eating each other

[@susana5052]

@@donaldhicks3359 lol mine will try too!

[@susana5052]

@Brutally Honest I won't be around any neighborhood so I suppose I'm guessing about what any neighbors will do. LOL I'm guessing you will not be around any neighborhoods yourself!👍

[@MyRockHoMama]

Bugs have a bunch a protein Grasshoppers are very good

[@optipwr40]

Simple, informative, straightforward. Somebody give this man a handshake.

[@maikutsukino4743]

I worked for Oregon Freeze Dry which makes the Mountain House products. However, I did not work in their food plants in Oregon, I was freeze drying probiotics in a new plant in NY. OFD would send us some of their new product lines to help test and I did not find one I did not like. OFD processing and packaging is second to none. I know- I have worked for several freeze dry and food processing companies. When vacuum sealing the product, the O2's (Oxygen content) is taken very seriously because that has a direct effect on product self life. Though I am no longer with them, I still think very highly of their products because I know their SOP's inside and out and the fact they would rather waste anything that is questionable (100's to 1000's of dollars) than give a customer bad product.

[@manofthetombs]

I appreciate the difference between "cheaper" and "less expensive"

[@johnceglarski9460]

One of the most honest and thorough analysis I've ever seen. Thanks so much.

[@mymaria3580]

Yes I invested in Wise! But would like to stock up on Mountain House...prepping is expensive!!!!

[@mymaria3580]

I think along with your long term food storage You need rice, beans, pasta and canned food'

[@ForbiddTV]

Susan Upton Bulk grains can be bought in 20-50 pound sacks very inexpensively, but it needs a lot of preparation to make those into a meal. Grains = inexpensive, but not convenient Freeze Dried = expensive, but very convenient

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

I looked at the ingredients and Wise has fake meat and preservatives. And you need to double the serving size. Any company that has a product called "Noodles with Beef" but has no beef in it is a red flag.

[@ForbiddTV]

haywood jeblome You lie. Look again. Wise has two entrees similar to what you speak of. One is called "Noodles with Beef in Mushroom Sauce" and clearly shows freeze dried hamburger listed in the ingredients. The other is called "Savory Stroganoff" and contains no meat, but you will note the.word 'beef' appears nowhere on the label. Some companies will decieve by using the phrase 'beef flavor'. Both Mountain House and Wise contain preservatives as do most all freeze dried brands, and they also are measured by one cup (8oz) as a serving size, just like most other freeze dried brands. If you don't like that, then yes go ahead and double it.

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

I missed that. I just checked the ingredients in the Wise Noodles with Beef and it does have beef but the ingredient list is a mile long and full of preservatives. The Mountain House meals I have seen have no preservatives.

[@engineer775]

Very informative. Thanks.

[@ForbiddTV]

engineer775 Practical Preppers You are welcome Scott.

[@suryawayne]

here's a few ideas for surviving any situation 1. Have food stock: 2. Find a shelter: 3. Know the dangers: You have to be prepared for the most common dangers at such point of time to ensure that you are able to make preparations against it. This can be wild animals or the weather or other people depending on the situation you are in and therefore, you have to identify the immediate danger and after that you have to start the preparations to safeguard yourself from these immediate dangers as well to ensure that you are able to face them if at all you come across them. So, whenever you are speaking about survival situations, these 3 are the most basic tips which you have to follow at all points of time and once you are able to follow these simple tips, you can be sure that you would be keeping your family safe and yourself as well from all such types of dangers. (I read these and why they work on Marla Survive System website )

[@neoadviser8056]

here's some suggestions for surviving any situation You never know when things are going to go bad and that is why it is important that you ensure that you have some knowledge about the survival skills in order to keep yourself and your family safe when things go awry. Most of the people just think that these situations are not going to happen but the truth is that these situations can happen any time and it is not just for the end of the world but you would need such survival skills even in times of natural calamities as well and that is why it is important for you to learn such skills and we would be highlighting 3 of such important skills. 1. Have food stock: You need to understand that in times like these, you need to have a spare food stock and you need to have foodstuffs which can last for a longer period of time like canned food and dry fruits like cashews as well. These would provide you with energy as well as other nutrients which are required for surviving as well. You need to ensure that you are having foodstuffs which do not require any additional processing and can be used directly as well. 2. Find a shelter: In times like these having a shelter which can product you from weather as well as other living being is important. If you are out of your home, you have to first and foremost search for a makeshift shelter or you have to think about building one if natural shelters are not available. 3. Know the dangers: (I learned these and the reasons they work from Marla survive system site )

[@rvsteve583]

this man knows his survival food. i feel much more informed as i have no prepping experience. thank you sir!

[@ForbiddTV]

Don't forget to look into growing your own, hunting/gathering/fishing, bulk grains, MRE's and what you can get in the grocery store.

[@akeeperofoddknowledge4956]

Been using MH products for years. First time was on a camping trip in the early/mid 70s. I keep them as part of my hurricane preparedness kit here in Florida. They came in handy when I was laid-off in December of '08. Lived on one pouch if MH per day for about six weeks or so until the money started coming in. Great stuff!

[@ForbiddTV]

Wow, one pouch a day would only be about 1/4 of the calories recommended for an adult daily. Unless you had other things to eat with it, I would bet you lost weight!

[@lourdes-amaliatalbert748]

I bought a box of Wise foods several months ago. I wish I'd seen this video before buying Wise. I'm new to this "prepping" stuff and taking a better, deeper look at the many survival foods bambarding consumer's of these products. That said, this guy's presentation on Mountain House foods has convinced me to go with Mountain House products.

[@KPHVAC]

The mountain house pouches are good. I occasionally eat them when I don't want to cook at home and they are great for camping or backpacking. It's real food not some sort of mush from Ready Wise or the other cheap bucket brands.

[@ryanrust6244]

I've been researching these two for a few hours, this video helped me decide to but the mountain House. Thank you!

[@mikef.2316]

Wise was giving away free samples and the one I tried was the worst freeze dried meal I have ever had and with that said I have always bought Mountainhouse and loved it!

[@MeTreesndirt]

Too salty.tho.

[@ForbiddTV]

Most freeze dried food brands do have a pretty high sodium content.

[@Bumpyi64]

I actually thought the Narrator was a salesman for Mountain House until I discovered differently listening and reading the comments. I so appreciate the unbridled honesty. IME, that is very rare.

[@ForbiddTV]

Well I think I mentioned I was a dealer for both Mountain House and Wise, but I do keep it real. Here's a blind taste test I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@Fannieannie2024]

Thank you for clarifying what can be a very confusing purchase.

[@55Quirll]

A very informative and enjoyable video. Thanks for telling how to compare products from different companies. Though Mountain House is more expensive, I believe it provides more of what you need to survive in an emergency situation - flood, hurricane, blizzard, etc. I will look more carefully at the labels on the products when comparing them. Again thank you very much for this video. I have subed.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

M.H. is worth it, believe me.

[@FreedomAndLiberty2024]

I knew very little when I started building my food storage, so I spent a pile of money on My Patriot Supply meals - which taste very good but are protein deficient. The other thing, as he pointed out about Wise, is that they count orange drink as a serving. The other issue is that their "servings" are 1/2 to 1/3 the calories of what an adult should have for an adequate serving - meaning a six-month supply is really only a two-month supply. After learning more about food storage, I purchased several cans of freeze-dried meat and eggs to supplement the MPS low protein meals; consequently, the great deal I got on a six-month food supply has turned out to be a bad deal. Lesson learned: I ONLY buy Mountain House now.

[@ForbiddTV]

You might want to look into something else (I don't know if I covered this in the video): Find out how common protein deficiency is in your country. Here in the US it is exceedingly rare, in fact when I used to look a people's blood under a microscope I would invariably see protein excess that was making problems in the blood. You might be focusing on the wrong thing...

[@FreedomAndLiberty2024]

@@ForbiddTV Good to know. Thank you!

[@iambassador3868]

Also, too much protein is bad for the kidneys and can take them out

[@JSMbiker]

Seriously the most thorough and truthful comparison I have seen. We have over 700 servings of various mountain house products and use them regularly on camping trips. We are now looking into the cost per package and such to see if a Harvest Rite freeze dryer be worth investing in.

[@ForbiddTV]

shane mathews Thanks, there are videos reviewing the Harvest Right freeze dryer on my channel as well.

[@Sixbears]

If you want grains for breakfast, buy things like oatmeal in a 50 pound bag.

[@kevinerose]

That's what I was thinking.

[@thomasmusso1147]

Yep. 5 tablespoons Oatmeal, salt to taste, a tablespoon each Honey and Crunchy Peanut Butter with a chopped banana. My regular daily startup and good to go all day. One can substitute the 'Wet Ingredients' with Dehydrated / Crushed Alternatives .. although Honey and Peanut Butter have good shelf lives.

[@marte1a256]

Sixbears does it ever expire?

[@janjbowman]

Sixbears seriously .

[@lindathompson5464]

@John Taylor I like to freeze my oatmeal a few days and then put in my vacuum sealer. Maybe not as long a shelf live but I am 70 so I'm sure it will last as long as I need it.

[@jbirdtristar1]

Wow!! Absolutely stellar review big guy!! Totally objective and HIGHLY informative and STRAIGHT TO THE POINT WITH NO BLOVIATING!!!! Seriously man, thank u so much for your expertise

[@ForbiddTV]

You might like the taste test video too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@ejames6431]

Great review! Thank you so much! I have both stored but if I buy more I will go with Mountain House. I have tried and I know I already like.

[@flpirate45]

Super review. I'm a Mountain house buyer for years and will always be. Thanks

[@TheDynasty84]

Mountain House = Gold

[@cptcosmo]

The MH Lasagna has remained my favorite over the years. I miss the MH Beef Bourguignon they made in the 80s, that was another fav.

[@googleuser1385]

Or you could just make your own at 1/8th the price and 10xs the shelf life?

[@darwinrodz8733]

@@googleuser1385 how please

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Hell yeah and my father introduced me to M.H. while backpacking. However, Dad was a die hard conservative and my brother and I were subjected to consuming the Off Brands which would not be thrown away or discarded. Some of those brands tasted like wood for lack of a better description. God Bless M.H.

[@Badcode0101]

Great comment! when your neighbors are eating bugs & grass… I'm a prepper and I did purchased Mountainhouse for the food value and calorie count.

[@GarouLady]

My worry while looking for Emergency food supply, since I am a diabetic is the sodium content as well as carb count. Main thing I know is that Wise has extremely low sodium versus Mountain Houses brand. One the freeze dried meat entrees most Wise Brands had 2% sodium while the MH brand had anywhere from 48% and higher. If you have high blood pressure as well as being diabetic, all that sodium over the course of eating those day in and day out adds up FAST!

[@ForbiddTV]

Really? Although your assertion that the sodium is high on these foods is certainly true, you haven't really looked at the labels. Codes for below MH = Mountain House, WC = Wise Company Both comparisons are for similar menus of one cup (8oz) prepared. Since most Wise entrees do not have meat, I had to use their camping line which does have meat for a fair comparison. Chili Mac w/Beef MH 780mg, WC 960mg Chicken Teriyaki w/Rice MH 660mg, WC 1020mg MH Beef Stroganoff w/Noodles 800mg WC Noodles w/Beef in Mushroom Sauce 890mg Don't be fooled by whoever told you what you thought you knew. If low sodium is important to you I would skip the entrees (although MH has some "low sodium" varieties) and go with the straight fruits and vegetables that generally add no salt. If low carb is important to you, again skip the entrees because almost all of them have either rice or noodles as their base ingredient.

[@DanielSnedden]

GarouLady - I have the same issue along with food allergies. I have some of the complete meals from Mountain House but most of my purchases have been individual items . I buy peaches, pears, apples, bananas, green beans, corn, broccoli, cauliflower etc. in #10 cans. That makes it possible to better control nutrition quality. Not perfect but much more versatile as well.

[@lindaturner628]

Very good point, thanks....

[@AngelZLopez]

Every cell in your body needs sodium. Not so much carbs. Go on Keto to help you diabetes

[@tracker5849]

Mountain house will not last that long....not in MY house...lol. I LOVE their meals..i eat them frequently for everyday food..not just emergency..camping hiking traveling etc. I keep several in my car at all times for just in case!! NOT long ago my husband went to hospitol by ambulance at midnight...i sat in ER for many hours...around 10 am I was beat..exhausted!! Went out to parking lot and got my alcohol stove and canteen set..boiled up water and made a mountain house!! While it was steeping for the required minutes I went back inside and had a hot delicious meal sitting in the ER. THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE

[@user-uj3kw5wt3i]

What's the best meals? I'm new still looking

[@edyoung6573]

Fantastic Break down of the two!!! Thank you for making this.

[@grigorirasputin5020]

Thank You for affirming that I have chosen wisely by purchasing Mountain House for my prepping needs for several years, now. Great info!!!!

[@steveyaworsky6170]

Good comparison video. I only buy pre-prepared meals for short term emergency use, but I much prefer Mountain House over any others I've tried. That being said, the Mountain House line is not totally TVP free. FYI - I just picked up one of their "Breakfast Skillet" meals, and TVP is listed as an ingredient in the pork sausage patty breakdown. However, that one item is certainly not enough to change my positive opinion of MH meals. Had it not been for this video I probably wouldn't have looked, but I thought I'd pass on what I found.

[@michelefoord4635]

I just made a pretty large Wise investment.. thank goodness it was BOGO so I don't feel cheated but I will definitely buy Mountain House the next round. I've watched a lot of really good reviews but yours was the best and educational! Thank you!

[@ForbiddTV]

Michele Foord Thanks, chances are you won't need it anyway, but if you do, you won't be going hungry which is the main goal, no?

[@michelefoord4635]

ForbiddTV probabaly my retirement food, lol.

[@yourmother1850]

Mountain house has TVP too, dudes blatantly lying. Also likely getting paid by mountain house. Sounded too fishy to be true, check mountain houses website, even the pictures of the ingredient list shows that they have TVP. Hell, all he'd have to do is show you both ingredient lists.

[@gnawster8835]

because you cannot effectively store food cheaper than this. Honestly if people were smart they would just get Thrive and make their own meals

[@tractorman1946]

Gnaw Ster, I considered Thrive, But I decided it is more time-consuming. You have to open numerous cans and measuring each. M. H. in the Packages is ready after you rip open the package and pour in hot water. Way easier. We will be washing clothes after heating water( hauled the water from your lake, pond, river, or other water source). Cutting wood etc, etc. The quicker I can get tastey food on the table, the better for all. That's just me.

[@kb9oak749]

Just got a wise bucket. Next one will be Mountain House.

[@lordkrythic6246]

Mountain House is better in every way, shape, and form. You get more bang for your buck.

[@ForbiddTV]

@FRANCISCO POLLARDO Sorry to tell you, but many think Wise is better than Mountain House: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@ForbiddTV]

@John Taylor Show where Mountain House is "three times as much". You lie.

[@ForbiddTV]

@John Taylor Fuck you asshole. Liars never get far on this channel.

[@thealize808]

@John Taylor 🍆

[@ForbiddTV]

@Uniroyal Mish Mountain house doesn't have potatoes, and you don't boil the apples, even if they had any.

[@humbleevidenceaccepter7712]

Stock up on a bottle or two of multivitamins in addition to any any stockpiled food.

[@jimmcginnis8830]

I would have not know differences if I didnt read all labels or watch this first. Just found your channel. I subscribed and lined to learn more. Thanks.

[@shannamoody7034]

Thank you so much for your video! I learned a lot about what to look for and quality vs cost! Thank you again

[@annmarieparker7045]

So glad I watched this before I spent money. Very informative.

[@ExtremePrepper]

Excellent point . . . you really have to compare apples to apples, and to know what is meant by "serving". Serving is not a well defined quantity, and what the seller considers to be a serving might be very different from what a hungry person considers a serving. Also, watch out for empty calories. A lot of these survival packages are a lot of highly refined, nutritionally void, carbohydrates and other empty calories. I would suggest that before anyone buy a lot of any type of survival food, try going one week eating NOTHING but what is in the packs, in quantities they consider to be servings, and see if you think you could really survive a year on it. Try before buying in volume.

[@ForbiddTV]

Yes, with most companies you would need about double the servings. Sometimes companies will have a packet of powdered drink mix listed as a 'serving'. As you said, empty calories, and no one would be happy with that as one of your meals for the day.

[@aarons6707]

Excellent video! If you're thinking about buying these packets, this is a must watch!!

[@greylocke100]

Have you considered offering a subscription based food storage deal? Some of us can't afford to purchase a large enough order to get a better price, yet if we could get a two or 3 package deal a month, as long as we agree to purchase at least 6 months, could they get a better price on the food and the shipping?

[@ForbiddTV]

greylocke100 No I haven't considered it and I really couldn't do that since I work alone and I live on the road traveling from show to show. Mail order is very difficult in my situation, and I am not in any position to hire someone to do this at some base location. There are too many internet dealers selling freeze dried food at cut-throat pricing that it's hard for me to compete especially when they offer free shipping. I am not saying you don't have a good idea, I just don't see how I could do it in my present situation.

[@greylocke100]

Possibly set it up with your suppliers for them to drop ship and you just handle the subscriptions. I"ve seen it done with some franchising deals my parents worked on back in the 80's

[@tractorman1946]

Walmart has sale prices on M. House #10 Cans and when you divide the serving number to the cost, most of the meals I catch on sale are under $2 per person and sometimes it is $1.50 a person. Watch Walmart online sales and also Amazon. Sometimes Emergency Essentials has good marked down prices too. They sell M.H. as well as their own brand.

[@timothyguay]

@@tractorman1946 Costco has some good deals from time to time

[@ChivalryPro]

PM me about ThriveLife freeze dried food.

[@kirkstinson7316]

A big one beyond price is what is the calorie count per serving? I'll pay a bit more to have better flavor and same or higher calories. Now, on chilli mac. Mountain House is 230 calories per 1 cup serving, 575 per pouch. Wise is 260 per cup and 660 per pouch. For the 30 calorie difference I'll still go mountain house for texture and flavor but remember, in an SHTF situation you'll need 2000 calories per day or more if your bugging out/working

[@Dalik1000]

I've bought a few wise buckets as a first purchase to stock up and here is my findings. I went through most of the pasta meals and soups as well as the meat bucket. Every pasta dish is runny and many of the noddles often don't cook through even if you let it sit for 15min. Taste was maybe 4/10 (5 = Okay) for the pasta and soups, so it wasn't good but I would finish the whole package. Most of the pasta and soups don't fully cook so if it has beans, expect tuff bits, this includes the noodles so try and let it cook longer and sit for an extra 15min. Yes I followed the directions. I've yet to try the rice or breakfast item dishes. The meat bucket is the best part of the package, I can eat that as a snack. Taste is maybe 6/10 but the meat packages are small, maybe a small serving of cereal in a bowl. There are difference flavors but it basically tastes the same as the "sauce" is slightly flavored water so when you eat the meat, you taste meat (ground beef or chicken) and little flavor of the "sauce". The meat are tiny balls of meat bits and the chicken is cubed chicken, a little dry but it's decent (6/10) so this is ideal to put in something else. Would I buy this again? No I wouldn't if I had the option I would go with MH or do my own food prep. If I had nothing else and maybe budget was a concern, wise is fine it will get you through an emergency, but even during SHTF you might not look forward to eating the wise products but it will fill you up.

[@ForbiddTV]

Thanks for the reviews.

[@EasyOhh]

Been stashing a bunch of mountain house pouched meals for a while. Broke out their breakfast skillet meal the other day and oh my god, if I’m stuck eating mountain house for the rest of my days in an emergency situation I’m am more than happy with that. Phenomenal stuff.

[@ForbiddTV]

It's not a real popular one, but it is their best breakfast dish in my opinion.

[@johnhall9228]

Very informative Sir, thank you. Getting ready to drop 2 grand on food preps and you made my decision a lot easier. MH It is.

[@dadlovesalex9857]

Thanks for all the great info. One time, I called Wise and was informed by their representative that they use GMO's in their products. Not sure about Mountain House, but I'll check.

[@ForbiddTV]

DadLovesAlex I'm not sure what they will say to you, but as a dealer they tell me that they buy from non-GMO sources. To be able to get the certification for this and label it as such would increase the price of the product even more.

[@WanderingVeteran]

Thank you for this great review. I have not tried all to many freeze dried rations quite yet.

[@jamesholland1497]

best comprehensive review I could find out their thank you for your time and information and I will damn sure stick with mountain House

[@ForbiddTV]

There is also a taste test I did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@belowme4927]

WHEN YOU'RE STARVING YOU'LL EAT ANYTHING

[@propanedaddy5577]

WHEN BOOMER HILLBILLIES FROM THE MIDWEST TYPE THEY DO IT IN ALL CAPS

[@rneedham667]

True I'll eat the bag! LOL!

[@fiddlesticksbessette398]

THATS JUST SOMETHING YOU HEARD,LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE..WELL,DONT BELEIVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR.THATS HOW BAD SHIT GETS AROUND,..

[@ForbiddTV]

Apparently three out of four people today can't figure out how to use that pesky caps lock button.

[@ForbiddTV]

@Richardo Frankie Not only camping, but some people also use them as meal replacements.

[@Scottyrock1000]

I never had any of these foods until about 5 years ago when I started prepping. I started buying MH at Walmart and thought it was very expensive, but still kept stocking up. I ate a few of these MH meals and really enjoyed them. Now that I have seen this video, I feel even better.

[@ForbiddTV]

If you are buying at Walmart for the apparent low price, look at the package weight. Those pouches are half the size as what everyone else offers.

[@Scottyrock1000]

@@ForbiddTV So like buy from Amazon maybe?

[@ForbiddTV]

But wherever you want, just so you are not buying at WM because it's 'half price' of elsewhere. The potential downfall of online purchases is the paper trail you create.

[@Scottyrock1000]

@@ForbiddTV ok... never mind.

[@rvboondocker2559]

You made this two years ago and I just saw it. Thanks! Great video. I subbed and looking to buy some Mountain House soon. That said, grains do have there place.

[@ForbiddTV]

I always tell people to prep with multiple sources. Grains are going to be your cheapest, but least convenient.

[@Carmen-no7bb]

My brother was given a bunch of pouches from mountain House that were very old over 20 years old, he open them up and use them and he said it tasted like it was made today. I heard several complaints about wisethat their food does not last more than four years that it had turned black in the and some people got sick as well. I bought mountain House pouches but I have not tried it yet.

[@mikerogers9711]

Just found this video. I love the old civil defense patch.

[@singkewlaw1594]

I HAVE BEEN WATCHING PREPPERS AND ALTHOUGH TASTE IS A VERY GOOD WAY OF TESTING THESE FOR ME IN A "SHTF" TIME, ANY FREEZE DRIED FOOD IS A LIFESAVER. LUCKILY WE HAVE HERE IN QUEBEC WHERE I LIVE AN ARMY SURPLUS KIND OF STORE WHICH SELLS MRE'S. SADLY I WENT ON AMAZON TO ORDER JUST ONE TO TRY IT OUT AND THOUGH THE MEAL WAS ONLY $8. ,THE SHIPPING TO CANADA WAS ALMOST $35.00!!!

[@ForbiddTV]

The Canadian military has a version of an MRE called an IMP. I think I show one in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5jLlJyYotd8qJo

[@susana5052]

Thank you! Great info for me to know! I appreciate your time for doing this post.👍

[@chaosncheckt9356]

Late to this but I have several buckets of the WISE and would regularly have a few meals when out camping. I always thought they were lacking. Then, I got an offer to purchase some Mountain House and I've never looked back. Just waiting to slowly go through what I have left of my WISE meals, and then I'm sticking with Mountain House. Now, what I need is a source where I can buy cases like you have, at a reasonable price.

[@ForbiddTV]

Some people like the taste of Wise better: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI If you buy MH in quantity, the most you will likely ever see is 30% off MSRP which is what is shown on their website.

[@keithsimpson2492]

While I don't have a problem with TVP generally, I have it in my stockpile along with real meats, I do have a problem with the flavor of Wise foods. It just doesn't taste good to me and I no longer stockpile it. Most of what I had I gave away to new preppers. I do have some Mountain House, but the bulk of my stockpile is either from the LDS store or Augason Farms that I get from Wal-Mart. Those two, plus the foods I've canned are what I've tried and liked.

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

My problem is when a company calls its meal "Noodles with Beef" when it is really noodles with TVP.

[@ForbiddTV]

haywood jeblome They don't call it Noodles with Beef, they call it Savory Stroganoff. If you are going to continuously lie, move along to a channel that will put up with that.

[@capemaxi]

In the intermountain west, Western Family affiliated grocery stores often carry Augason Farms supplies too. I don't know the geographic area Western Family covers besides Utah and Idaho.

[@ronstryker]

Thank you so much for the updated video. I have a friend who was recently redpilled and in food recommendation I also suggested Mountain House but i will definitely send the link to this video to him.

[@danrattenbury2697]

My wife and I have bought damn near every brand out there as samples before we invested. Mountain House flat out smoked everybody else with regards to taste, they flat out rock. We have also bought from Honeyville in #10 form TVP products and we like them (as part of our mini prep) as they add value and variety in taste. The vast majority of what we have so far is bagged mountain house. We also supplement with canned goods from the store when we find super sales. If you have the budget go mt. house for taste, if you can't afford it, I can relate.

[@petermccracken2247]

THANK-YOU !!! I have wise food, in my food storage , it is all freeze dried meat. Bought it to try it out - taste is not to bad, compared to some. To be honest, I have not tried Mountain House, YET !! I WILL !!

[@winterburan]

In Europe they say that REAL Turmat products are the best, did anyone taste any of them in the USA? I'm curious to taste Augason Farms?

[@ForbiddTV]

Never seen that brand in the USA. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKKXoIx_i9uhrpI

[@abram730]

I bought some Augason Farms products. Make sure to check on volumes and weights, as they have lots of half empty #10 cans and buckets. Make sure you calculate the actual costs based on weight and volume. A #10 can is 12 cups full. They also don't have mylar bags in their buckets so they can get breached in transport, and shelf life is questionable IMO. Their products are like a cheaper wise. Most of their products also requires cooking. Their vegetable stew blend and cornmeal buckets, were good deals last I checked, and mostly full. Their butter is OK, but not good to fry with. Gluten-Free Black Bean Burger, is good to stretch things as freeze dried meat is expensive. I bought their peppers, onions, egg powder, potato shreds, Peanut Butter Powder, and some other items. I would however recommend Emergency Essentials over Augason Farms products. Their buckets were full to the top and packed in mylar bags, inside the buckets. In terms of just add water meals, Mountain House and Campfire Meals/Daily Bread are good and that is important, because you will need to eat the stuff.

[@theartofwanderlust]

After spending a career in the military I can eat just about anything, my favourite freeze dried meals are mountain house they are high in sodium but these are based for high activity situations were you are sweating a lot. Having said that at the very end of my 14 day-backpacking trip with my 16 year old son, and we were starving neither one of us could eat the back packers pantry meal, I have tasted stamp glue that’s more palatable

[@thesurvivalist.]

Isn’t Mountain House already cooked food!, so the prep time is far shorter, I think it is better to buy their #10 cans!

[@ForbiddTV]

The Survivalist Most freeze dried food is already cooked, including Mountain House. Exceptions are usually things like freeze dried fruits and vegetables. Cans or pouches, same food and same shelf life -30 years - according to Mountain House.

[@maryjane-vx4dd]

Freeze dried absorbs water quickly. If using #10 cans after opening should be used QUICKLY.Shelf life is unopened.P.S. I freeze dry my own

[@jeffreyyeip1915]

I would buy the pouches to try. See what I liked the best then buy the #10 cans.

[@mom.emma2010]

How about bags of rice?

[@mom.emma2010]

@@maryjane-vx4dd how? ❤️

[@billcat1840]

I used to buy into this. I bought hundreds of dollars worth of Patriots Pantry stuff. For what I was spending I could buy four times that amount in the grocery store. Bought a food dehydrator and vacuum sealer. So many things from the store will last longer and has a great shelf life if properly repacked

[@ForbiddTV]

The stuff you package yourself won't last as long as freeze dried, but as long as you "use-to-not-lose" your prep food you will be fine.

[@BEder-it4lf]

I remember Mountain House from the Boy Scouts when I was a kid. 30+ years.

[@ForbiddTV]

Yep, Mountain House has been around for more than 50 years.

[@tln25]

Thanks for making this- straight forward, no BS.

[@zolozek3327]

From my own personal experience I had Wise. and it messed up my stomach so bad. and i also had mountain house. and had a much better experience ..😉 breakfast skillet its pretty good

[@zolozek3327]

meaning i rather pay a little more and know that if SHTF or for other matters that i won't be getting either sick or uncomfortable while eating all this kinds of foods.

[@humbleevidenceaccepter7712]

We mix the breakfast skillet with a real egg or two; very good.

[@ForbiddTV]

@@humbleevidenceaccepter7712 The Breakfast Skillet already has eggs, yes real eggs.

[@humbleevidenceaccepter7712]

@@ForbiddTV You are correct; I should've said a couple of _fresh_ eggs.

[@msnpassjan2004]

@@humbleevidenceaccepter7712 We know what you meant.

[@k.loftin7746]

I bought some 4 Patriot and some of the packages were literally blowed up with air... Guess I need to pick all the puffy ones out and use them in my first crisis... My mountain house and Wise foods were all very flat and sucked in.

[@TheHauptsturmfuhrer]

Wow, an expert. Very impressive.Thanks

[@COVID-cm4rn]

What about Augason Farms? Are they any good

[@SaltyReels]

Backpackers Pantry is gross.. at least the vegetarian ones are... Great vid!! Thanks for sharing the info!!

[@MyRockHoMama]

Anything vegetarian ia gross

[@shashakeeleh5468]

Great video, Craig! Always solid info.

[@bigtom3422]

I've always purchased Mountain House, I tried Wise one time and didn't like it, I've also tried other brands and didn't much care for them either

[@tritchie6272]

I think maybe the most valuable advise/info I got from this video is 1-Look at the label and ingredients closely. 2- TVP ain't meat.Now personally I like having meat to go along with my other food. I got nothing against vegetables but I don't want to live on a meatless diet. So for me that's valuable info. Plus I'm over 40 so I don't think I need any more soy than I already get out of a can of soup or occasional TV dinner.However I will agree that having something to eat is better than having nothing. I need to get started on some things. Although it's not easy when money is tight. On a side note it took awhile but I finally got the wife to come around to the idea of buying an extra days worth of food when we can. Although I'm getting concerned that she may be starting to forget those lessons. The lessons learnt by a late pay check a time or 2.

[@lonewolf2364]

Mountain House is better on all counts.In my experience.

[@HighSpeedNoDrag]

Yes and believe me.

[@mixmediaproductions]

American Civil Defense, in my life too. Grandfather was in Fire Department, and introduced me to it. He had a white military helmet with that logo you have.

[@danielc.1169]

Dont compare serving size when doing food comparison , you need to compare the CALORIES PER SERVING and TOTAL CALORIES PER CONTAINER to get a TRUE comparison based on "serving" because one company serving could be alot less calories than another , we live based on calories not servings. The serving method is a trick these companies use to get u to buy them over someone else. Like patriot foods, the claim for example in a month of food supply to have 100 serving lets say ( number injust made up for illustration) but the servings are like 250-350 calories wich is not enough to really live on properly . So take in mind that your age, size and sex and how much calories u should have to live on and get your food storge based on calories needed per day, not serving

[@danielc.1169]

You will find out that companies that base their monthly food supply based on "SERVINGS" and not CALORIES , that a month will really last you about 15 days if you know your caloring intake based on age and sex. Wich for most men is around 1800-2300 a day

[@ForbiddTV]

Daniel Charette I covered much of this in the video, perhaps you didn't see it. If you had three 'servings' a day of these or other brands of these foods you would only be getting about 1000 calories a day.

[@itsabouttogetreal8051]

@Daniel charette you also have to consider what will little kids eat. My dogs wouldn't eat the wise food. So while I have the money, I'll get the good stuff for the kids. I can eat the crap.

[@DanielSnedden]

He did cover the caloric content. He discussed fillers by Wise. MH uses the real meats, no fillers. You can up calorie content just by adding sugar (flavored drinks) etc.

[@robbabcock_]

Good analysis. I eat a ketogenic diet and I'm not a prepper in quite the same sense that you are. Most of the camping/backpacking/preparedness stuff is high in carbs which isn't really good for long term health. That said I do buy a lot of Mountain House stuff, mostly for hiking, backpacking and backcountry camping. IMO the best products out there for that purpose are the Mountain House Military/LRP meals. I've tried a few of the various Wise Food packs including the chili mac and IMO they're substandard. As you say, TVP has nutrients but it's not as satisfying as real meat nor does it taste good. Most of the Wise Food 'entrees' are little different than dried mixes that you could get at a supermarket by Knorr or Lipton. It looks cheaper but it's a false economy IMO.

[@myalaskanlife]

I have a video on my channel and I eat a 30 year old can of mountain house was damn good!!!

[@timcross9815]

Thank you, this has been the first useful information that I have found on the topic. The short version, buy Mountain House.

[@mazecentric4124]

Thx for the info! 👍

[@CP140405]

As others have mentioned, it would be interesting to compare the various brands on a dollars/calorie basis. Serving size doesn't really matter... it's how much energy (and of course nutrients) per dollar that is a good indicator of value. And for what it is worth... my son does a lot of hiking and camping. He prefers Mountain House over Wise... although (his opinion)is that, "...all the breakfast egg dishes are crap..."

[@ForbiddTV]

CP140405 Problem with the calories comparison is the count can be artificially elevated by just adding more sugars. More calories does not necessarily mean more nutrition.

[@CP140405]

True enough... although adding fat would be more effective at adding calories (gram for gram) than sugars... and the relative nutritional value between two servings/meals of comparable caloric content would of course be the basis for another review.

[@ForbiddTV]

CP140405 Fat content is a difficult thing to increase with freeze drying. High fat content foods just will not freeze dry properly. The third brand I briefly show in this video (Backpacker's Pantry) addresses this by including a separate fat packet (like olive oil) in with the main entree that you add to and mix in before consumption.

[@clayyates2416]

Awesome vid

[@thebeliever5337]

yes MH seems to be the best hands down. If I had 1 issue it would be the sodium content. Are there any freeze-dried low sodium foods other than cereal and fruit snacks?

[@ForbiddTV]

Mountain House and many other companies make low sodium varieties. The taste generally suffers when they do that since higher fat foods are difficult to freeze dry (fats and salts usually improve taste). You can always go with straight fruits or vegetables which usually have no added ingredients.

[@kamikazitsunami]

Personally I would rather eat 30 year old TVP than 30 year old meat.

[@cheapreviews0]

Is there a diffrence in the quality of the meat only packages , basised on brand?

[@ForbiddTV]

Check the labels. Some will say simply beef or chicken, where others may have a lot of additives.

[@georgevaldez1449]

good vid

[@CoolTaxiDriver]

Thanks for sharing this. I’ve contacted them (Wise) because our family cannot have soy products because of health issues. I never got a response...now I know why.

[@ForbiddTV]

Some Mountain House has soy too. Most all of the brands do.

[@VinnieSutra]

Thank you. You've answered a plethora of questions I had in my mind. 👍

[@winstonsmith3433]

Wise taste like ..........poo

[@itsabouttogetreal8051]

@winston smith. Just be honest. It tasted like shit

[@chaniatreides9513]

Augison farms lasagna is sooo gross. I think its poo.

[@sunrizes71]

Costco had mountain house for awhile. Stocked up on that....don't regret it...delicious every pouch

[@gordonwiessner6327]

This is a frigging advertisement.

[@ForbiddTV]

Gordon Wiessner And how is it a 'frigging advertisement?' I was comlaring brands against each.other.

[@yourmother1850]

IT IS, mountain house most definitely has TVP in it. Checked the website after you were so adamant about saying it didn't have it over and over and over. Your main point is false. It's an advert.

[@TheMajorActual]

Your Mother -- Truth, right there. I just checked Amazon, and Mountain House products do contain soy additives in several of their products (I checked the Beef Stroganoff, the Chicken Ala King, and the Chili Mac w/ Beef). Some MH products also contain maltodextrin...At the very least, MH and Wise are using similar ingredients, so bashing one over containing "texturized vegetable protein" (i.e., "soy products"), while insisting that the other does not (even though it clearly spells out that it contains soy proteins in at least three places), is disingenuous, at best. Definitely an advert.

[@xxentre]

Where does Augason Farms fit into this picture? Like their 30 day food buckets.

[@ForbiddTV]

xxentre You will have to dig deeper on that answer yourself since I have no experience or knowledge of their products. After watching this video you have a good idea of what to look for.

[@greenlawnfarm5827]

They have a short shelf life.

[@richardanderson6874]

This is a very informative and valuable report. Thank-you for the information!!!

[@relsba]

A few years ago I did purchase. My biggest complaint was no smaller co tai ers. A family of 2 do not need so much that needs to be used with 2 weeks. Another, I believed ( not researching enough) was able to use when my power was no longer available. Have learned, too late

[@ForbiddTV]

They can still be used with no power. If you can't use hot water, you can still re-hydrate them with cold water. It just takes longer and you won't have a hot meal. Just be sure the water you are using is safe as is, because adding it to the food won't change that.

[@nick3572]

would you please do a comparison between mountain house and augason farms freeze dried foods. please

[@ForbiddTV]

No sorry, I have no plans of doing that. I did a comparison between three brands and it took me months to complete: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHqzZ2OGqrmlg7c Examine the labels of both and that's half the battle. The tasting is simply your preference.

[@MsJoose59]

At what temperature does the Mountain House products need to be maintained in order to not compromise the shelf life?

[@ForbiddTV]

I haven't seen data on Freeze Dried Food, but perhaps MRE charts will be helpful: 2.bp.blogspot.com/-VxrkUHjhOmY/Tdwy6oUyGEI/AAAAAAAAACk/SVEr2O7ypnQ/s1600/mre-shelf-life-chart.jpg www.survival-warehouse.com/media/wysiwyg/SHELFlife.jpg

[@MsJoose59]

@@ForbiddTV Thank you for your assistance. Though MRE chart only shows temp for a period of up to five years. Mountain House has a significantly higher shelf life claim. It seems there would have to be some kind of specifics for it to last that long. Heck, I would be happy with a general or approximate temp.

[@ThisTall]

Anyone know if they all package with BPA free plastic?

[@colleenpritchett6914]

Invest on your own, or with friends, in a Harvest Right freeze dryer and make your own! You make your own favourite recipes, determine your spices and salt content, and package the way which works for you. Makes far more sense to me!

[@ForbiddTV]

It's a lot of work and rather expensive, but you are correct. I have one.

[@OhioPrepperOne]

Very informative thank you. I own mountain house, Auguson farms and honeyville farms only.

[@bevintx5440]

Thanks for a very useful review of these products.