Differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Daytona Charger

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A lot of people think that these cars are identical to one another that they just have different names... We wanted to take some time and point out the differences that make these cars different from one another. Hope you enjoy!

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@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad somebody with the ability and desire to preserve these cars has them
@ericnoble3475
@ericnoble3475 3 жыл бұрын
Expensive taste them mopars aint cheap
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericnoble3475 especially these in particular, I remember a friends mom had a mint 340 Cuda with like 28K miles on it when I was in high school, late 90's, i don't remember what she sold it for but I remember her turning down 30K for it on several occasions
@neilaji4221
@neilaji4221 3 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is that there were conversion kits back then to turn them back into chargers
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericnoble3475 very true lad
@joebone3151
@joebone3151 3 жыл бұрын
They don't deserve to be preserve they deserve to get raced.
@KCFlyer2
@KCFlyer2 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was a travelling salesman in the 60's and 70's and drove strictly Mopar. He put so many miles on that he got a new car every year. One year he drove up in a Superbird. My jaw dropped and I asked (incredulously) if he really got this. Sadly, he didn't. The dealer just let him bring it home for the weekend. But our house was the coolest one on the block for that weekend.
@tommissouri4871
@tommissouri4871 3 жыл бұрын
Back when dealers would left you drive off with the car, go pick up the family, and see how they liked it. Often you could keep it overnight and for some customers, for the weekend.
@mattjacomos2795
@mattjacomos2795 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommissouri4871 it's known as the "puppy dog close".
@h8er627
@h8er627 2 жыл бұрын
Your father was a saint.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 8 ай бұрын
​@@tommissouri4871They couldn't give away Superbirds, lol.
@livebassngames
@livebassngames 5 ай бұрын
@@deeremeyer1749right it is such that some roadrunners are actually disguised superbirds (with nose/spoiler delete)
@somerandomeguyonyoutube
@somerandomeguyonyoutube 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see that there is somebody on earth that possesses these two cars and wasn't stupid enough to modify the engines or do anything weird to them and has preserved them as they are
@highjix
@highjix 3 жыл бұрын
I have never even seen either of these cars in person so I am sooo jealous that he has multiple ones, not that I could afford to buy or restore one, so I guess it evens out.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 3 жыл бұрын
@@highjix When I was a kid in the early 70's there was a yellow Daytona just like the one in this video that sat on a used car lot down the road from our house for well over a year that they couldn't sell, it's price continually dropped until they finally got rid of it. I remember seeing it covered in snow from my bedroom window and the wing on the back was the only way you could tell it from all the other snow covered cars, people go crazy about cars like this now but the fact is back in the day hardly anyone wanted them.
@jcnpresser
@jcnpresser 3 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 yep pretty much,they were built to win on the speedways on Sunday and to sell cars on Monday’s.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcnpresser It got even worse for cars of that era further down the line, by the time I was in high school in the early 80's your average late 60's early 70's muscle type cars were going from $500 to $1500 depending on condition, now that doesn't include some late 60's COPO Camaro of course and by then the aero cars like one of these started to rise in price, but your run of the mill V8 powered Camaros and Mustang's and Polara's went for that kind of money, high school kids with after school jobs could buy them because by the early 80's no one wanted a 10 to 15 year old car that was a notorious gas guzzler, the general public didn't want something like that and the only people that cared about them were gear heads, and back then your average dentist or doctor weren't gear heads, they're the ones nowadays that are driving the prices of cars like that through the roof, but back then they didn't care about them, back in those days people with money considered something like that a bad investment.
@tharifdzulfiqar789
@tharifdzulfiqar789 2 жыл бұрын
He got 3
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 3 жыл бұрын
The proper music would have been the sound of that hemi talking...
@aspiceronni4462
@aspiceronni4462 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt.
@waynewilliams5802
@waynewilliams5802 3 жыл бұрын
440
@waynewilliams5802
@waynewilliams5802 3 жыл бұрын
@@held1823 lol he said they are both 440 engines bone
@dadi2450
@dadi2450 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynewilliams5802 how do you manage to browse the internet when you're this blind
@eyeofforus
@eyeofforus 3 жыл бұрын
Prb used music because all u would hear is the drone props. But I agree
@KinleysClassics
@KinleysClassics 3 жыл бұрын
This is the video I've always wanted someone to make. Nicely done, can't wait to see more!
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duston! More to come soon. Bob
@thehouserocker
@thehouserocker 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to explaining differences on collector cars, THIS is how all the videos should be done! no BS just facts
@stripervince1
@stripervince1 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt Mopar went bonkers with winning and this was the pinnacle of hp style and performance. 1970 best year for American muscle. Mopar ruled. Great video
@davidthayer6969
@davidthayer6969 3 жыл бұрын
well no, actually they did not, the winged cars only won 12 nascar races in 1970 compared to 26 for their standard Road Runners and Chargers.
@stripervince1
@stripervince1 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidthayer6969 I didn't say they won more than anyone else. This was the car that brought petty back to Plymouth. It was the car that Bobby Isaac's drove over 200 mph. They were the most far out thing Detroit ever produced. 1970 was the best year for every muscle car made. LS6 450 hp 454 chevelles, 427 copo yenkos camaros, novas and chevelles, Baldwin motion cars, ,L88 Corvettes, stage 4 ram air GTOs, 440 six pack challengers, 426 hemi cudas, runners with ramcharger and air grabber pop up hoods ( most menacing deterrent for opposition on the street.) coolest item ever put on any muscle car. There were 455 GSX Buicks, 396/427 SS novas boss 429 mustangs. 428 cobra jet cyclones, AMC 390 scramblers Yeah. R/T charger 440and hemi coronets, super bees and chargers. Every car was at the peak performance, design and horsepower. 1970 was the best by far
@BoundlessPLYR
@BoundlessPLYR 3 жыл бұрын
@@held1823 exactly it's almost like they got banned from racing or something
@BoundlessPLYR
@BoundlessPLYR 3 жыл бұрын
@@held1823 I was agreeing with you, sarcasm doesn't come across well online sorry for the misunderstanding hah! I was more so referring to the other person not paying attention to win % etc.
@BoundlessPLYR
@BoundlessPLYR 3 жыл бұрын
@@held1823 ah that's fair haha for the record I enjoyed it lol
@danfarris135
@danfarris135 3 жыл бұрын
I remember riding the school bus in 70/71 and they had three of these in the front row of the local dealership. Not sure whether they were Plymouth or Dodge but it seemed like they sat there for a few years before being sold. My dad would always say who the *%ll would buy that when we drove by in our station wagon. 😁😁
@luffararnesugerkuk
@luffararnesugerkuk 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, easy to be clever in 2021, who could have imagined? Would easily choose to go back there and buy a few of them, long term storage and just wait cause today they would be worth a fortune
@kelleybryan4775
@kelleybryan4775 3 жыл бұрын
I have MY 71 RR that I bought as first car Dad said no to the Daytona in 73 because he thought it was ugly!
@paulorchard7960
@paulorchard7960 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, my first thought was designed by a 4 year old on the kitchen table with a box of crayons!
@DK-lz7kg
@DK-lz7kg 2 жыл бұрын
While they are collectible, aesthetically they are atrocious in design. Heavy, disproportionate, American junk design. Its not an appealing looking car I don’t know why people are into these, especially when there are plenty of other American muscle cars that look so much better
@garymcmullin2292
@garymcmullin2292 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your dad!
@rockeroller
@rockeroller 3 жыл бұрын
Differences: all exterior body panels.
@fastlx3901
@fastlx3901 3 жыл бұрын
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 2 totally different cars... 69 Daytona is a charger.... 70 superbird is a roadrunner... body panels are different
@vincentkujawski5159
@vincentkujawski5159 3 жыл бұрын
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism this is a comparison between a Charger Daytona and a Road Runner Super bird! They both are factory original. Not a Charger and a Road Runner. Next time know what you're talking about before trying to sound like it! Js
@denniswilson9317
@denniswilson9317 3 жыл бұрын
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Listen to the very first statement in the video again.
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544
@amichiganboiwhosereallazy1544 3 жыл бұрын
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism did you watch the god damn video?
@mikamika9781
@mikamika9781 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism 'Differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Daytona Charger', the title of the video
@kenswitzer4133
@kenswitzer4133 2 жыл бұрын
As an old hard case Chevy guy I really appreciate this video. I bought a 1970 super bee in 1971 drove it for 10 years then let it go for a family car. Sure miss it now, most likely never have another one because of the cost. Old Mopars buddy of mine told me one time that Chrysler didn't make cars to slice through the air they just beat it into submission. He was pretty much right. I love the old Mopars.
@seanoleary1979
@seanoleary1979 Жыл бұрын
Chevy = 💩💩💩💩 😝
@shtupidmate
@shtupidmate Жыл бұрын
lmaoo beat into submission I gotta use that when talking about the F4 phantom
@grey5135
@grey5135 3 жыл бұрын
The vents over the wheel of the Daytona are functional. It bleeds off wind turbulence out of the wheel well reducing drag at high speeds. Alot of modern super cars actually have this design on their track focused cars. You can tell the Daytona was built by engineers and the Super bird was built by designers. The Daytona is by far the model I'd rather have if I could pick 1.
@jackschwartz1783
@jackschwartz1783 2 жыл бұрын
Also, as it bleeds off air it aids in brake cooling. Take Care All
@themagician2008
@themagician2008 Жыл бұрын
one example is the AMG project one in "race mode" but theirs are just flaps that fold down but same concept
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 Жыл бұрын
From what Ive heard, the vents are to allow more clearance for the wheels. If you didnt race or intend to race the car there is no hole, but the vent is still installed.
@themagician2008
@themagician2008 Жыл бұрын
@@dezznutz3743 they allow more clearance but there mainly for reducing drag.
@sergeantmasson3669
@sergeantmasson3669 8 ай бұрын
@grey5135, those front fender bumps/scoops were for tire clearance and not for heat venting
@rileywallace1132
@rileywallace1132 3 жыл бұрын
"We are, same same, but Differeeeentt... but STILL same" -james Franco
@leestaggers2583
@leestaggers2583 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@leestaggers2583
@leestaggers2583 3 жыл бұрын
That movie cracks me up lol
@halfmaul2095
@halfmaul2095 3 жыл бұрын
Anyway, they are diffrent
@colbyclemons3917
@colbyclemons3917 3 жыл бұрын
Folk legend: Richard petty said he wouldn’t drive a super bird unless the wing was 4 inches further forward.
@toddaulner5393
@toddaulner5393 7 ай бұрын
I noticed that!
@kingjames8283
@kingjames8283 2 жыл бұрын
Between the two, I go for the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird. Glad you are keeping the memory and legacy of these cars. My uncle up in Indianapolis who back then worked for Chrysler 30th Street and retired from the Foundry on Tibbs Ave had Dodge Chargers every year in the late 60's and early 70's. I remember the '70 real well back then when my little fingers got caught between the door and the door frame by the latch from the outside when it closed unexpectedly. It was quite painful I remember.
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 3 жыл бұрын
Two of my biggest dream cars side by side. Thanks for both the knowledge and giving us such an in-depth and close-up look at such iconic cars!
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it Tripp, and your screenname is a good number!
@georgesbrodeur9608
@georgesbrodeur9608 3 жыл бұрын
Having driven my buddy’s Super Bird with a 440 six pack and 4 speed, at high speed, it was practically glued to the road. Hit a bump and the down force slammed you back down. Absolute joy to drive when we would go Porsche hunting on the freeways of San Jose.
@georgesbrodeur9608
@georgesbrodeur9608 2 жыл бұрын
@Peter Angles 😂 no Camry, an Acura MDX, but would love a Subaru or a Mazda Miata with a standard tranny to race through the Santa Cruz mountains. As for the Superbird, at speed on the freeways, the aerodynamics kicked in by pushing it down. Yes, on mountain roads it sucked, and the brakes on cars back then were garbage after a few hard slow downs. But FUN to drive.
@TCUsouthpaw
@TCUsouthpaw 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in '97 and I saw a Plymouth superbird rolling down the interstate a couple months ago in Austin, TX. I've seen plenty of nice cars, Porsche 911's , Lamborghini's, Rolls Royce's, and even Bugatti's; but this car was the one and only Plymouth I've ever seen in my life and I was late to work because I watched it ten miles past my exit and had to loop back. Beautiful car for sure!
@garypic4083
@garypic4083 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 70 years old, I remember back in the day we all laugh at those loads, even Dodge & Plymouth guys did I had a 69Mach1 428cj back then
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 3 жыл бұрын
I am embarrassed to say they were so weird back then they were just too crazy!. Thanks Gary
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 3 жыл бұрын
Fastest production cars in the World in 1969-71. That’s not weird.
@Leatherface123.
@Leatherface123. 3 жыл бұрын
They were just unusual and a little to far ahead of their time It’s like Black Sabbath in 1969 creating heavy metal before guitar shredding was even a thing At a time where fast was medium speed and muscle cars where still growing
@thebusterdog6358
@thebusterdog6358 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 69 Buick GS with a 400 CI "slap stick" automatic transmission. It would have embarrassed either of these posers. That goofy spoiler served absolutely no purpose below 180 mph, and that nose cone was just an add on to allow for retractable headlights, that proved to be a nightmare for those stupid enough to buy either of those cars. Constant maintenance onnnthe lights and overheating issues. Most of the people I ran with in those days thought Mopar was a joke, except the Plymouth Challenger, it was an awesome design.
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 3 жыл бұрын
The rest of us laughed at you on race day. Maybe you shouldn't include what car you had when attempting to down a Mopar. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
@jackofalltrades7469
@jackofalltrades7469 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at those and decided they were too long and flashy, insurance was high, bought a 1970 Barracuda AAR 340 for $6800 in 1970. Was tempted to buy a hemi road runner. Wish I had kept it. Those were the days.
@whatswiththissassylostchilld
@whatswiththissassylostchilld 3 жыл бұрын
Those were great times to be alive.
@sloanramon6004
@sloanramon6004 3 жыл бұрын
Those were the days indeed. I have a couple #s 340 cars, but no sixpac
@Prince_.A
@Prince_.A 3 жыл бұрын
Thats roughly 50k in today's money. Thats crazy man.
@kingboagart899
@kingboagart899 3 жыл бұрын
Owned a 70 roadrunner 440 pistol grip 4 spd. 70 challenger 383 auto, 70 amx 390 4spd. 70 chevelle 375hp 4spd all at different times. Believe it or not challenger was fastest at 154 mph, while amx was quickest to about 90. Now that I'm old I've got a little black 67 camaro that pulls a sub 11 qtr mile and my grandsons don't yet appreciate!
@Prince_.A
@Prince_.A 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingboagart899 I'm about to start working on cars myself. Im looking at getting 83 3rd gen Camaro to start working on. I could get a 2019 1SS, but I love the older muscle man.
@electricimpulse7
@electricimpulse7 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, quality internet content
@ericball6000
@ericball6000 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the info on both of these awesome Mopar's, glad that you got the red one running, cheers.
@sandersondavis
@sandersondavis 3 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one of these cars. This video changed my mind. Not trying to be snarky, I just wanted to thank you for quality content. Seriously.
@ScottDLR
@ScottDLR 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! The rear end of the Daytona does it for me. Next time, maybe give us a shot of those wing supports in the trunk and you never did show us the rear window "plug".
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct Scott-we need to show that plug and those braces, and we will, promise. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Bob
@justonemori
@justonemori 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always wondered what the differences were past the obvious vinyl and wing. They're so rare it's hard to find both parked next to each other. I suspect the fender holes on the Dodge are to reduce air pressure in the wheel well which lowers turbulence and helps stability.
@dezznutz3743
@dezznutz3743 Жыл бұрын
Its for clearance so the tires wouldnt rub.
@DavidB7474
@DavidB7474 2 жыл бұрын
As a Chevy guy, it’s great to learn this. Wing cars, mopars have always been more rare. The prices for any classic have gone crazy in the past years! Nice to see original type cars, not some over the top, modified restomod. I appreciate the modified cars and the work, but sometimes it’s just to much. Stock is just plain cool!
@hbuzgon9557
@hbuzgon9557 3 жыл бұрын
what a great overview... great camera angles show at the end with the holy grail ....
@Omnihil777
@Omnihil777 3 жыл бұрын
It's wonderful to listen to a man talking about his honest passion. He's glad with his two birds and he shares it. Good man in my book!
@pb68slab18
@pb68slab18 3 жыл бұрын
I've read dealers as well as buyers pulled those extended nose pieces and cut-off or removed the wing/spoiler because they couldn't sell them.
@arnoventer226
@arnoventer226 3 жыл бұрын
These 2 cars are so awesome. I never know which one I like more, the Daytona or the Superbird. Good video explaining the difference between the cars.
@rodneybadger734
@rodneybadger734 3 жыл бұрын
My dad bought a 440 pistol grip 4spd bench seat SuperBird back in 1983. Restored it and showed it for many years. Sold it back in 1997 for 20Gs. I heard the story for many years on how much their worth day, till he just passed. The fender scoops were there for tire clearance for NasCar racing. We still have have a mint 1969 340 Dart with only 34,000 miles. Best of times.
@dash4191
@dash4191 2 жыл бұрын
That red lawnmower cuts the grass pretty good . The yard looks great !!
@danvandal4127
@danvandal4127 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was always fascinated by these cars but didn't know the differences all too well.
@gerald4133
@gerald4133 2 жыл бұрын
My dad bought a 69' 440 cuda' it was one of 500 made. He also had a 66' Charge 383. Both of these cars are beautiful!!! Congratulations
@timrowe28
@timrowe28 2 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous cars , I've always loved these cars , unfortunitly I am not a millionaire so my dreams of ever owning one will never happen , but I do love seeing them .
@EricTheOld
@EricTheOld 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time. It's guys like you and Leno preserving history that keep us informed! I'd question you to death if I ever met you about this and that but it's out of appreciation. Take care
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric!
@taylorhartman96
@taylorhartman96 3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa worked for the Vernon M Ball dealership as a mechanic back in the 60's and my dad remembers a green Super Bird in the area back in the 70's (We are from the Elkhart, IN area). It was most likely this same one!!
@camaropartsforall
@camaropartsforall 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a very reputable show on the wing cars and they stated that the fender vents were there for a hidden purpose (at the time). When NASCAR officials asked about the bumps, they were told that they were for tire clearance when they were actually meant to release trapped air in the fenders and engine bay. No one knew about that at that time so they didn't want to give away their advantage. Makes sense.
@brianbartlett7313
@brianbartlett7313 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, how there isn't way more subscribers is crazy!
@jeffjohnston3504
@jeffjohnston3504 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed hearing and seeing the differences between the two cars. I especially liked the drone view of the orange Daytona.
@ccrider77
@ccrider77 3 жыл бұрын
It's a very informative video, with some information I didn't know before. The only thing that I take issue with is the Superbird vinyl top question. A vinyl top isn't able to hide rough, uneven or bad bodywork. It will show right under the vinyl. I've read in various older car magazines that the vinyl roof was used for aerodynamic reasons. This is why you actually saw Superbirds with vinyl roofs at NASCAR. The theory at the time was it would improve laminar airflow, similar to how the dimpled surface of a golf ball does. Of course, later testing showed that it made no difference whatsoever. The amount of time to properly apply a vinyl roof would be roughly the same as that to fill the seams on a plug. Some articles support this and others don't, which only added to the confusion.
@allysonhanks7367
@allysonhanks7367 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@nojnoj3069
@nojnoj3069 6 ай бұрын
I just found your KZbin channel and this video had me smiling all the way through. Thank you so very much for all the information. Sir, there are so many of us out here that are beholding to collector's like yourself, if it weren't for you these awesome automobiles wouldn't exist. Sir, thank you very much........ needless to say I subbed immediately.
@dave23024
@dave23024 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I was having a hard time deciding which one to buy.
@brianhiles8164
@brianhiles8164 8 ай бұрын
This is literally the first time I´ve had the experience of the explanation of the differences of the two cars simultaneous with seeing them side-by-side. In gratitude of your effort, I´ll give you a piece of trivia that very few know. Most think _Superbird_ was a model name when in fact it was an acronym: *SUPERBIRD: Scaled Up Performance Ensures Roadrunner´s **_Beep-beep_** Is Really **_Deep-deep_* _(smile!)_
@anonpure7533
@anonpure7533 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video I love it. I'm 20 and work on cars and man I hope to own older cars like these in my near future
@teddyrichards8421
@teddyrichards8421 3 жыл бұрын
you are the luckiest man in the planet!! They are my dream cars!!!I'm beyond happy they are in great HANDS! Thank you for preservation of them
@4406bbldb
@4406bbldb 3 жыл бұрын
I worked on these in 69 and 70. Driving mostly at Chelsea but my specialty is Engine performance. Cameras weren't allowed in engineering areas back then but i didn't think it was a big deal. I was offered a winston cup drivers seat in 1970. Great memories to have. Diffenetly have great ground effects. (Down force). I acctually ended a test run early because my Superbird was not driving right. People pointed at me near the garage because my front wheel toe was off by 6". Answer the A arm collapsed from the down force. Easy fix.
@alexandertoshich765
@alexandertoshich765 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! My dad worked at the PG too. Many fascinating stories from there.
@4406bbldb
@4406bbldb 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandertoshich765 i was often at Chelsea or Woodward ave. but mostly Highland park. Thinking back i should have taken the Winston cup drivers position. Oh well.
@allysonhanks7367
@allysonhanks7367 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Don, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@paulhewson4600
@paulhewson4600 3 жыл бұрын
Call The King and ask him about the scoops
@richsackett3423
@richsackett3423 3 жыл бұрын
Don't.
@nicholaslokos7949
@nicholaslokos7949 3 жыл бұрын
@@richsackett3423 do.
@johnswimmer4104
@johnswimmer4104 4 ай бұрын
Very Cool. I had to watch this after seeing the Bonneville 71 short film. Really neat to see the similarities and differences between these 2 beautiful cars. Thank you for sharing.
@coolman72891
@coolman72891 3 жыл бұрын
Ill tell you the one big thing these cars have in common though, is that i cant afford either of one them
@davidbreen4353
@davidbreen4353 2 ай бұрын
same here!
@lincolnls0416
@lincolnls0416 3 жыл бұрын
I learned few new things. I always thought the vinyl tops, rear ends, gas fill locations and side front markers was the only difference. The rest what you said I had know ideal. Thanks teaching me new difference on when I look to get 1 in the future.
@frankkruchef7248
@frankkruchef7248 3 жыл бұрын
They got one thing in common: Looking damn good (and the sound too!)
@badad0166
@badad0166 3 жыл бұрын
Camera could wear headphones and hear that wind next time. And no coughing! Lol. Great little details. Thank you.
@Spritsailor
@Spritsailor 3 жыл бұрын
My dad's '69 Plymouth Fury had overheating problems, too. It was common with Chrysler products with large V8's.
@talisikid1618
@talisikid1618 3 жыл бұрын
Had a ‘68 Fury but didn’t have overheating issues.
@oilman1758
@oilman1758 3 жыл бұрын
Dad had a 70 or 72 Fury and it had a 440cid. The engine bay made the 440 look tiny. A school bus fell on top of it and car roof dented very little while the kids were evacuating from bus. It was a tank to say the least.
@tonylittle8634
@tonylittle8634 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation. I remember when these were new. I never thought about the subtle differences.
@ShafferBrah
@ShafferBrah 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content Bob! Can't wait to see the Daytona in person with the nose on!
@rickhoover6479
@rickhoover6479 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched this in June '22. These cars have been my grail of grails since I was a teen ... maybe even before. There was always one parked in the 500 block of Vickroy Ave in the Ferndale section of Johnstown, PA in the 1970s. It stood out like no other car on the block!!! I loved that car! I later met a kid in HS who's dream car was also the Superbird, and MoPars in general. I learned as much as I could about the Superbird and Daytona through books, magazines and word of mouth. Now all it takes is a good hour on Google to learn what took me years. Anyways. Glad to see these beauties being restored and cherished.
@steeliewheelies
@steeliewheelies 3 жыл бұрын
A yellow 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona with a black wing is my all-time, gotta-have-it, can't-live-without-it, would-do-anything-to-get-it, favorite dream car. Thanks to David Spade and his creation of Joe Dirt.
@steeliewheelies
@steeliewheelies 3 жыл бұрын
@@thefreestylefrEaK It’s pronounced Dirté but yeah
@IAMTHEBIGCHUCQUITA
@IAMTHEBIGCHUCQUITA 3 жыл бұрын
The difference is one is a Plymouth and one is a Dodge! ;>)
@arsbadmojo
@arsbadmojo 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! What a luxury to be able to compare them side by side. I thought they were much closer than the are.
@Mduffey22
@Mduffey22 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 12 and some people might scoff and say someone as young as me who wasn’t around when these cars were made but I do love both these cars. Amazing examples.
@jaxx_eclipse
@jaxx_eclipse 3 жыл бұрын
Yo people underestimate us young people.
@Mduffey22
@Mduffey22 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaxx_eclipse right
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I've owned 4 (6 MOPARs. counting a 1968 Coronet station wagon with a 383 and an Aspen RT). 1968 Charger RT 440x4 bbl, a 1969 440x4 GTX, a 1970 440x4 Challenger RT/SE and a 1972 Challenger 340x4 RT. All having TorqueFlites. A friend and I put a HEMI in a 1968 Dodge Van, which we drove to high school and he bought a 1966 HEMI Charger , yellow automatic from the original owner for $850 in 1975, which he later sold to Rick Finch, the bass player for KC and the Sunshine Band. I was lucky enough to grow up when the best muscle cars were made. Which includes a 1962 Ford Galaxy with a 406 3x2 bbl with a four speed (my next door neighbor) and across the street a 1962 Impala with a 409 four speed. 1/2 block away, a husband and wife with a 1962 Galaxy 406 and a 1963 Galaxy 427. Both red with white interior. And it goes on... Great Life
@allysonhanks7367
@allysonhanks7367 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tim, how are you doing. I hope you are safe and in good health. Looking for a new friend and i saw your pic here. I hope you don't mind thank you.
@Stormbringer505
@Stormbringer505 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a young kid this guy on my block had a green super bird , I used to love watching him fly by .
@michaelloth6728
@michaelloth6728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for presenting the cars and talking about their differences. They are all nice. I grew up in Milwaukee, WI. I was 10 years old in 1971 and used to see these cars on the road back then. A guy that lived down the street had a yellow Superbird and I always enjoyed seeing the car. Fortunately I only saw the winged cars being driven in summer.
@buickguy1
@buickguy1 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work with a guy who told me one time when he was a teenager he and his father were at a Chrysler dealership looking for a new station wagon when they saw a Plymouth superbird in the showroom and his father said "that is the ugliest car I've ever seen" if he only knew what it would be worth now.
@danfarris135
@danfarris135 3 жыл бұрын
Same with my dad
@kylejorgensen1412
@kylejorgensen1412 3 жыл бұрын
I still think they're ugly but I love oddities like these
@thud9797
@thud9797 3 жыл бұрын
Many dealers found those Superbirds hard to sell. Some even converted the pointed front to a standard Roadrunner. It wasn't until 1972 that the last new Superbird was finally sold.
@marknelson4976
@marknelson4976 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking time to go over some of the differences between the two Bad Boys, Picture driving on the Daytona Beach with the original..
@trentwatts3997
@trentwatts3997 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanna find a 70’s charger, clean it up really well and convert it to a Daytona, and cherish it. My absolute dream car and I hate on how rare and expensive they are to get one
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun (or not so fun) fact for you, the Daytona in the movie Joe Dirt was a real Daytona and not a conversion as most people assume, the scene where the rear wing gets ripped off was a wooden mockup that was used for that scene only, the car is an actual collector grade Daytona that was "uglied up" by the Hollywood crew with special paint that'll wash off that gave it that weathered rust bucket look, about 6 years ago it was for sale, the owner left it in the condition it was for the movie hoping it would sell for more than a regular Daytona having it's movie tie in, it was listed with all the original parts to convert it back over from it's movie mods.
@trentwatts3997
@trentwatts3997 3 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 that movie is honestly what got me interested in the car before I started diving into stock car history. Which is funny enough
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 3 жыл бұрын
@@trentwatts3997 Yea it's a hysterical movie, and when I read about the car being for sale and saw pictures of it before the Hollywood people worked it over I couldn't believe it was a real Daytona, I expected it to be a mock up based on a regular Charger, as I recall it's actually that Plum Crazy color underneath the temporary paint job, if you watch the movie you can see a shot of him in the car at the booth where the security guard gives him a hard time, if you pause and look past him at the inside of the passenger door you can see purple (if I remember correctly) overspray on the door as would be expected from a factory paint job and that piece of translucent plastic that's under the door panel which was removed as part of uglying it up for the movie.
@rickjensen1636
@rickjensen1636 3 жыл бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 440 six pack car i think it was.
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Greenwood, Indiana and first saw one of these new in White land, Indiana. I eventually owned a '69 Charger but never a Wing car... Unbelievable. Thank you for sharing.
@themergen1
@themergen1 3 жыл бұрын
You said you would should the plug for the rear window. I didn't see it.
@dntlss
@dntlss 3 жыл бұрын
Good lord man,those are nice,my best friend has a Road Runner convertible thats been in storage for decades awaiting restoration,hopefully one day he will get around to it.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, sir. Did I read somewhere that the wing difference on the bird was for trunk lid clearance? I'm sorry but that music at the end covering up the hemi sound was appalling. Sorry. I remember in 1970 I was in 2nd grade in Laredo, TX. and an orange bird would pick up one of the other students, there.
@farewell_to_normalcy9352
@farewell_to_normalcy9352 3 жыл бұрын
The height of the wings has nothing to do with trunk clearance (just ended up working in addition to height of the wing ) like many people think. It actually was put up that high above the roof because that was the most optimal place for the wing to create down force at high speeds. The vents on top of the Daytonas fenders are actually meant to channel negative air pressure in the wheel wells outward so you don’t get front end lift.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 3 жыл бұрын
@@farewell_to_normalcy9352 Excellent! I smelled a rat about this guy when he called the hemi Daytona an automatic four speed!! In one of his other cartoon/rich guy/keystone cops videos. Did you see that one? How about, in this video when he practically threw up, coughing, into his hand! I almost threw up too, because it's super gross 😝 and you know that's how he acts in real life! I hope he checks the blinker fluid on his #'s matching muffler bearings! Do you think he knows that a metric crescent wrench works on American bolts, also? Ahahahahah 🤣
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrkemblegilstrap and the daytona is a charger R/T ? nooooo it is not , it is a 500 . guy might have a few dollars to throw round but i'll race my Porsche against him and his daytona charger title for title any day
@61rampy65
@61rampy65 3 жыл бұрын
@@carmineredd1198 Why? Don't you like your Porsche?
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 3 жыл бұрын
@@61rampy65 the challenge is to race to the other side of town and back , there is no way i can lose
@leepeterke4376
@leepeterke4376 3 жыл бұрын
Love the great info, knew a older gent as a kid in new berlin wi. That was lucky enough to have a daytona and superbird in nice condition, he was kind enough to talk of these cars and was the president of the superbird club of america.
@jmuduke99
@jmuduke99 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't even imagine having those in my driveway. WOW!
@shadetreejoe3986
@shadetreejoe3986 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting about the vinyl tops on the Superbird. I had no idea, but it makes perfect sense.
@johnstory4163
@johnstory4163 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to own a Daytona always been my dream car
@marklark8805
@marklark8805 3 жыл бұрын
Hello to a fellow Hoosier. Love the model replicas in the rear window trays,classic. Enjoy your wings and thank you for sharing.
@Danielpakuts
@Danielpakuts 3 жыл бұрын
Cool to know the differences, my Mom's last name is Jennings too. 👍
@jimjennings1731
@jimjennings1731 3 жыл бұрын
My brother bought a new Superbird in 1970 for about $4800.00. I loved that car. I couldn't afford Superbird back then but in 1973 I bought a 68 GTX for $440.00 and a 69 Roadrunner for $675.00 both in excellent condition and very fast. I regret selling them to this day. I'd like to have another Roadrunner but they are really expensive now.
@cdc194
@cdc194 3 жыл бұрын
Salesman to Designer: "Why is the wing so big?" Designer: "So the trunk can open." Salesman to Customer: "NASA designed it!"
@wes326
@wes326 3 жыл бұрын
Clean air.
@matthewsmith4599
@matthewsmith4599 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... tha k you for this video. Always loved the charger....until the newer body styles anyway and I've been a car guy for 35 years and love seeing the differences between both of these beautiful beast!!!! Keep up the good work
@albarran490
@albarran490 3 жыл бұрын
I would be scared to even drive those beauties in the street , those altima drivers ready to wreck into you at all times
@picax8398
@picax8398 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact you have both sitting next to each other is amazing
@Patriot-up2td
@Patriot-up2td 3 жыл бұрын
What a great comparison. Well done!
@littlehookerjam407
@littlehookerjam407 3 жыл бұрын
They're both beautiful cars! Thank you for sharing them. 🙂
@JaimeSalcedoA_72
@JaimeSalcedoA_72 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video, showing the most notable differences between a Plymouth Superbird and a Dodge Charger Daytona! I come for the link that Lou Costabile left on his channel "My Car Story"... Best regards!!
@brandonreid4511
@brandonreid4511 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being able to own 1 of these gorgeous cars....Let alone 3 or more! Absolutely amazing collection of unbelievably beautiful cars!
@jimjungle1397
@jimjungle1397 3 жыл бұрын
I had a beat up Daytona in high school in the late 1970's. It was a 440 4 speed car, but the transmission had been swapped for an automatic, though it still had the Dana 60 rear. The automatic shifter was a Mr. Gasket one that looked like a manual transmission shifter and fit the shifter opening perfectly. The engine was stock, except for headers. The loose clutch pedal was still installed in the car.
@justpassnthru
@justpassnthru 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame about the sound quality on this otherwise excellent video. Just when you thought it couldn't get more annoying than the wind noise the doggo chimes in.
@ox.the.hellbull
@ox.the.hellbull 2 жыл бұрын
The superbird in this video is my exact dream car. First heard of the car when I watched Pixar cars as a kid and fell in love with the design. This was a great informational video sir, greetings from Germany!
@JenningsWingCars
@JenningsWingCars 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ox. we will have a future video on our Petty Superbird (the blue one of course), just like the King in cars.
@brianglover7629
@brianglover7629 3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing that super bird when I was a kid in Elkhart
@gorjlg
@gorjlg 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool seeing the dealer sticker on it still. My old neighbor had a 57 Bel Air that still had the original dealer chrome plate on it.
@the_car_guy5915
@the_car_guy5915 3 жыл бұрын
My 75 Duster still has the dealer sticker on the trunk. Just proves its always been local.
@rufinolara747
@rufinolara747 2 жыл бұрын
I love both but I would definitely take the Daytona 😍🔥🔥🔥
@ace-pv4hy
@ace-pv4hy 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love both of them, the styling is you either love or hate it! ❤️
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 3 жыл бұрын
4:35 it's purely decorative. Plymouth wanted the air to stay in the wheel well to increase pressure on the tires, meanwhile Dodge wanted to ventilate that air to reduce drag. So Chrysler gave what dodge wanted, to keep both cars looking similar, Plymouth had to use it too.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 3 жыл бұрын
When the wheels are turning, they act like an air compressor. They squish the air to the ground and this increases the pressure inside the wheel well, particularly on the front of it. This causes 3 main things: 1st- more pressure on top of the tire, which increases friction. 2nd- increases drag by having air spilling over the sides, thus causing a wake area that disturbs air flow on the sides. 3rd: the increase pressure in the wheel well disencourages fresh air to enter in it, thus decreasing brake cooling. This can be observed in newer cars with different engineering solutions, like air intakes in there for 80's and 90's cars (more pressure = more oxigen = more power, more like snapier throttle response) and air curtains on 2021+ cars, that has the mission of reducing tire wake.
@ladamyre1
@ladamyre1 3 жыл бұрын
The scoops were called heat extractors but the purpose is to extract pressure from under the hood, stopping it from lifting the front end of the car at 150+ mph. That is why the car is faster: At speed the front end of the Daytona is an inch lower. The wing angle actually slows it a bit, but provides much better stability for the rear end. The Superbird is, as we say in Texas "all hat". The scoops, the wing, the grill are all about styling to make it look like a Daytona.
@parkersgarage4216
@parkersgarage4216 3 жыл бұрын
I already know the differences but I had to come see the cars. Love the super birds
@mikelaumaillier9271
@mikelaumaillier9271 2 жыл бұрын
Learned something today. Thanks for posting this video. I had the same problems with the license plate with my Barracuda. Simple solution: Cut a piece of wood, varnish optional, a couple pieces of foam at each end to protect the paint and you have a prop for your license plate. Much easier to gas up. Best Regards - Mike
@johnpatterson4272
@johnpatterson4272 3 жыл бұрын
In the small Canadian city where I lived I can only remember seeing one legit Plymouth Superbird on the road in the early 70s. The Dodge Daytona I've never seen in my life as a licensed vehicle on a Canadian roadway. Of course the Superbird had a stratospheric cool factor, yet most of my friends aspired to grow-up and own a Barracuda, Camaro, Corvette or Super Bee. The Superbird and Daytona Charger seemed mythical and unattainable back-in-the-day.
@danbaumann8273
@danbaumann8273 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Same. I remember the cook at the pizza joint I'd frequent with friends had a Superbird. He had it parked out front all the time. This was out in St.Albert, Alberta around 88 - 89. White with a lot of rust unfortunately. Still, we used to drool over that car as much as the pizza.
@johnpatterson4272
@johnpatterson4272 2 жыл бұрын
@@danbaumann8273 Righteous recollection my Canadian brother. Those cars seemed unattainable back-in-the-day. Yet, they gave us all the belief anything was possible in our young lives. A better time in this country.
@danbaumann8273
@danbaumann8273 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpatterson4272 Yeah it was very cool. As rare as hens teeth. I don't think Ive ever seen another one around there. Somehow recall one or two at car shows but that's about it. We did though have a few beautiful muscle cars around that town. I remember the two 67 Beaumont SD's and the 66 Chevelle SS I owned for a short spell. Sure wish I still had her. And yeah, I have to largely agree with you about that last bit too my friend. Here's hoping. Cheers. 🍻 🇨🇦
@MJ-wh8yz
@MJ-wh8yz 3 жыл бұрын
Wow 😍 what a video. This is good stuff. Dang I could listen to this guy a while. This is detailed. This rocks! 😎👍 Thank you for putting this out there.
@jfk64kennedy95
@jfk64kennedy95 3 жыл бұрын
there actual Chrysler studies about the fender vents....the 'functional' vents reduced drag by 3%
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 3 жыл бұрын
0.3 not 3
@jfk64kennedy95
@jfk64kennedy95 3 жыл бұрын
@@carmineredd1198 " The results of the various aero treatments were duly noted in internal memos drafted at Chrysler-memos that would not come to light until many years after these cars were retired. A "long" nose decreased drag by 9.5 percent, a "short" nose decreased drag by 12.5 percent. "Exhausters" mounted over the front tires reduced drag by a further three percent." www.yahoo.com/news/cheaty-scoops-really-made-dodge-170923017.html
@chrislittle3194
@chrislittle3194 3 жыл бұрын
There is an all original Daytona with 25k miles in Mountain City TN. It is owned by a physician whom used to race NASCAR. IT was given as a prize for setting fastest lap qualifying at Tallladega AL.
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