Differences between FTTH - FTTP - FTTC - FTTN & HFC under NBN CO | Tech Man Pat

Today we look at the differences between FTTH - FTTP - FTTC - FTTN & HFC.
*Mistake in titles at 1:24 and 4:03 - Apologies.
Fibre to the Curb
Fibre to the Node
Fibre to the Neighbourhood
Fibre to the Home
Fibre to the Premises
Hybrid Fibre Coaxial (Cable)
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[@user-ox9cu5ew8n]

These videos on the NBN are amazing, thanks for the content!

[@georgechen1151]

I recently got FTTB this week, and speed has been around 90mbps down/38mbps up, which is way better than my ex-ADSL2+ (16mbps/1mbps)

[@NathanSchafer99]

I got Fibre to the Curb last week and get 95 down, 37 up.

[@TechManPat]

Wow thats amazing :) lucky you, similar speeds i had with full Fibre, but higher up.

[@UsedAWish]

Nathan Schafer good to here that, that’s what my streets getting.

[@cashwood]

nice

[@shaleen6163]

Dear background music not required in this video.

[@spanos1011]

The music is sick mate

[@cmgmusicproductions302]

@@spanos1011 banging mate

[@skjoli2649]

Underrated channel.

[@TechManPat]

Aww ! thanks mate ! Appreciate it !

[@rodrrico]

Great video! In a high density area (Sydney) is HFC limited in terms of maximum speed Download / Upload?

[@Circularl0gistics]

Good job patty! Sweet as

[@stevep7837]

Hi I have a question for you I have FTTN at my place if I obtain a NBN connection box can i connect a router? instead of a modem/router?

[@CharlieVane21]

Is there a modem I can get that covers FTTP, FTTB, FTTN, etc? I am moving to FTTB soon and want to get a Taipan.

[@yingyangorca4124]

Hi @Tech Man Pat With fttc, can I use aN ASUS AC5300? If so is that all i'll need?

[@natainomn7103]

Thanks for exposing , btw I’m getting FTTC

[@casperscomiccoverage7027]

In Tech Man Pat we trust! Very knowledge, such information, wow!

[@TechManPat]

Oh hello mate :)

[@axelmoses4290]

Is it possible to have coaxial cable from the isp to the node?

[@s_lavea]

I have purchased a new gaming router and was wondering if you could help setting it up? I have FTTP and I’m not too sure if I need to use the modem router provided from Aussiebroadband as an access point? Thanks

[@TechManPat]

You can use either there should be no set up required with FTTp

[@TTTT-jf1uq]

Good info 👍

[@TomBabula]

Cable TV/internet in homes in the USA wasn’t being rolled out starting in late 90, it dates a lot earlier decades, at latest 70s but some areas starting in 50, and 60. What you probably meant is fiber was moved closer to homes to accommodate for growth in cable channels, video on demand and broadband internet using DOCSIS protocol. Cooper was replaced with fiber to neighborhood node. Lately cable companies have started removing amplifiers between node and premises to future proof network for faster speed especially in upload.

[@bareb7251]

So, the order from worst to best is: FTTN < FTTC < HFC < FTTP Am I correct in saying this? (Only reason I put HFC before FTTC is due to the rollout of DOCSIS 3.1 as well as Duplex which could be a possibility in the future supporting 10Gbps symmetrically with HFC).

[@TechManPat]

Yep but i think with HFC its a bit too much infrastructure / install cost maybe is higher? I haven't seen any new installs of HFC lately.

[@bareb7251]

@@TechManPat I think this mainly due to the HFC pause, will probably see a significant amount of HFC connections this year.

[@oeufme1409]

My suburb is getting HFC as we speak. Trucks came into my street the other day

[@josephhutchins8]

@@TechManPat I'm actually getting HFC hopefully in April to June

[@seanoguy]

me too, in elwood/melbourne, projected for april. I'm guessing july by the time we actually get it

[@VidinaSS]

Question. I have FTTC, so how do I go about getting more modems installed directly a PC without having to go WIFI with just one modem??

[@TechManPat]

You would have to run some Ethernet cables around the house to a router that’s connected to the modem.

[@VidinaSS]

@@TechManPat is there any other work around? I have a bedroom downstairs and another one 3 up stairs.

[@1stNightingale]

@@VidinaSS Mesh router?

[@seanzappulla71]

If someone wants FTTP NBN they they have to get a quote from NBN and costs $600 and to get the fibre put under the footpath costs about $10,000. The guy I know has HFC in there street the moment.

[@trebleizerquartet1717]

I got my NBN switched this January, and my pre-existing HFC was severely downgraded by the FTTN installation. I went from 100MB down 1MB up to 10MB down and 5MB up. They said it would only be cut in half, and I would get 13MB upload, which is already rubbish, but I get this significantly worse rubbish instead. Fail government. Fail NBN co. Fail ISPs. Fail network techs. Fail voters. Fail proletariat. Fail Country.

[@jacobanderson9530]

Getting NBN on the 15th of April. NBN Modem delayed due to pandemics

[@melbourneuberdriver46]

hi mate hope you are well i would love your help on a issue i want to run a eternet cable to my computer the only problem is my NBN box is located under my stairs and i dont want 10 to 15 metres of cable running through the house so how do i get to move my optus modem to my computer room i do have a point in the room which i think takes a CAT6 connection cheers mate

[@TechManPat]

You can do a couple of things, the issue is that in both circumstances you will need to run a new cable, sounds like ot would best to splice the phone cable to your room via the cat6 it’s a bit fidly but possible. I’m also going to guess you may have fibre so best thing to do is run a Ethernet from the stairs to the cat6 point you have in the room…

[@zabylurt]

I have FTTP but it doesnt work unsurprisingly

[@space_guy_04]

We are fttn might not be bad for example in our case the box is located just few meters away from our home so we still receive speeds up to 700 mbps.

[@EnnTomi1]

dont do auto focus if you are not moving. since your hand , and light movement might trigger the auto focus, but in fact we just want your face in focus.

[@TechManPat]

Hey mate ! Yes I was still learning my new camera when I made those videos, my newer ones are all done on manual focus, auto is to unpredictable and I like waving my arms too much haha ;) cheers

[@LowerLaptime]

Hey question if its ok - i have fttn and a technician needs to come out to set this up. What does this mean when it "connects to your home" where is this connected into and what intrusions / choices need to be made

[@TechManPat]

I will be making a video about this, I am hoping it will answer these questions. But generaly you will get some documentation about this, basicly where they will place the modem and where the cable from the outside will come into your home.

[@LowerLaptime]

@@TechManPat i don't understand sorry

[@SevenCostanza]

we had hfc at my house in sydney like 20 years ago

[@shystee6855]

Is fiber to the node using dsl?

[@thanksmyman]

Sounds like a dumb question but FTTC is gonna be available in July, my house is the first house in the court does that mean my internet might be a bit faster in peak hours or does the curb part just mean outside each individual home?

[@TechManPat]

As far as we know curb means to to the box in front of house which then goes copper so won’t matter where you will be . So you will have fast and so should the rest

[@qwertyjeff6617]

So I have 10mb/s on fibre now. If I get ftth would that make a difference?

[@dw2843]

What's your plan? Also, what type do you have currently? FTTN, HFC?

[@qwertyjeff6617]

@@dw2843 FTTN but my ISP is offering FTTH now

[@dw2843]

@@qwertyjeff6617 What I mean is: What speed are you paying for right now? If you're paying for a speed greater than 12.5, FTTH will make a difference. But changing from FTTN to FTTH is not a simple plan change, it can cost 10s of thousands of dollars.

[@qwertyjeff6617]

@@dw2843 I'm paying for 100mb/s and its €55 per month they OFFER FTTH 150mb/s for €75 per month. It says the installation fee is €100

[@nicko9799]

@@qwertyjeff6617 go for fttp it's future proof and will allow you to go up in speed meanwhile fttn will max out at 100mbps

[@elifriend6556]

Man, haha. My country can relate to some of the topic in here you mentioned.

[@abhitron]

Mistakes in your titles at 1:24 and 4:03

[@TechManPat]

Ahh crap... to many FTTXXXX

[@abhitron]

@@TechManPat wouldn't have happened under Labor :p

[@TsuyoshiKK]

so which is better , HFC or FTTC 🤔 my house currently has HFC got 91 down , 18 up (100/20 plan)

[@jhonalexandercamachoherrer5075]

HFC is a way to implement FTTC

[@TsuyoshiKK]

jhon alexander camacho herrera but it is said that HFC can reach 1Gbps theoretically.

[@srimathisantanam1413]

So what does FTTB-C and FTTB-F mean?TIA

[@MrBernie19]

Our block is getting HFC, does this come through the old foxtel outlet and do I need a new modem? I only need fast speeds at 2 am to 9 am so I can watch UK football! what the best plan for me please

[@TechManPat]

Hey mate yes you might need a new modem it will be a vdsl modem. They aren’t particularly expensive and your isp will be able to also provide you with one. Plan wise and speed wise it’s up to you, but Aussie broadband has been great with speeds and general service they are the new iiNet when iiNet user to be locally owned

[@MrBernie19]

@@TechManPat HI Pat, many thanks for your reply,currently with TPG on adsl2, however I've also been reading good reviews about aussie broadband on whirlpool.org

[@Alirezarz62]

Isn't FTTC fibre to the cabinet??

[@amalsaba1262]

Thanks

[@SylphidUndine]

couldn't care less for the camera focus. it's the accent that's throwing me off. are you american or australian? or do you speak like Sydney Watson?

[@TechManPat]

I am polish :) English is mah second language

[@SylphidUndine]

@@TechManPat ah, i see. great video btw

[@TechManPat]

Thanks mate :)

[@Jaymo89]

Australian

[@1stNightingale]

@@Jaymo89 I'm Australian too, but my accent is a mix of aussie, english, and estonian.

[@dws84]

1:19 This is me, I've had HFC for 10-15 years, most of the time better than and more reliable than FTTN from what I've read and heard. Isn't HFC and FTTN pretty much the same thing except for the copper used for delivery to the premises; FTTN using phone lines and HFC using PTV cables? I'm so glad I've never had to deal with ADSL, ADSL2 or FTTN since getting HFC.

[@ducktoller2485]

I got FTTN 2 days ago & i feel fucking violated. Constant dropouts, online gaming is impossible also. Its practically unusable. How this is not seen as a criminal offence is mind blowing. Is there any point in making a complaint to the telecommunications ombudsman? Thanks for the info mate.

[@TechManPat]

plenty of people make complaint, and it all tallys up, you should if you are having an issue, but try a diffrent provider before you loose you cool, i swapped from iinet to aussie broadband and it has been great,

[@ducktoller2485]

@@TechManPat ive already lost my cool lol, i have made a complaint to the TIO & to my ISP. Thanks for the reply, cheers from the Gold Coast.

[@TechManPat]

@@ducktoller2485 ahh man thats a shame, i reckon swap out your ISP see if that helps.

[@robertnitschke89]

Yea what about fixed wireless and how slow it is?

[@jizzleannebarretto955]

Highest speed is 25/5 Mbps.

[@jizzleannebarretto955]

Highest speed is 25/5 Mbps.

[@aj.5841]

I feel for anyone who has to suffer with fixed wireless. What a joke! Can't even get FTTP unless you're wealthy, and even then, could guarantee there'd be problems.

[@jhonalexandercamachoherrer5075]

Hay una pequeña equivocación cuando hablamos de los sistemas FTTx y dejamos el HFC por aparte. Si analizamos bien y nos guiamos por el significado real de la distancia de la fibra hasta un sector definido antes de llegar al cliente, el HFC es una manera de implementar FTTC porque la fibra en dicho sistema llega a una distancia cercana a 300m del cliente y luego se reparte vía cable coaxial con convertidores de señal. La confusión existe en cuanto a que cuando se habla de sistemas FTTx, la gente lo asume directamente a relación con sistemas xDSL, lo cual no es del todo cierto. VDSL es otra manera de implementar FTTC, y esta vez si es desde el enfoque de sistemas xDSL y sus limitantes.

[@ausi14u]

I will be able to get HFC to replace my existing Cable Broadband I've had for the last few years. I am currently getting speeds of 113 Mbps Down but admittedly only 5.3 Mbps Up during peak times. I don't upload much so I don't mind. I currently only have to pay A$70.00 for my landline and Broadband bundle. The new and improved NBN bundle will provide indicatively 85 Mbps Down and 30 Mbps (typical) up for A$120.00 . Unfortunately I can't stay on my old Cable past July. So that should be fun. Thanks LIBERAL government for destroying the one opportunity this country had to get our communications system right and leaving us with a complete farce of a system that will need to be upgraded in the future at multiple time the original cost, to score political points.

[@dw2843]

Is FTTP and FTTH the same thing?

[@SmokeySkies]

Yes, pretty much. In Australia we use the term Fibre to the premise (FTTP) and Fbre to the Home is U.S and U.K i believe.

[@gsau3000]

Free ad for Jack Daniels

[@shahg5524]

All your acronyms don’t match the full name of service time in the top left corner of the video. 4:05 FTTC is not Fibre To The Node ??? It’s Fibre To The Curb

[@jasonhowe1697]

fttp/ftth/Fois; fibre in the home Fttn/Fttc: same technology with 1 difference 1 provides vdsl only.. 1 provides fibre to the actual pit with either vdsl or lan/wan services within a 100 meter length with options to provide upto 10Gbit to the home.. Noting with ftth in play you can provide cable services via standard connection or home link fibre backbone.. noting 1 requires a media connection.. the other 1 either uses eithernet or fibre connected lan.. on 10+gbit network connection long term it is cheaper long term to install ftth and change the media interface to give 100+gbit services than it is to keep servicing the D/A conversion fttn nework with no analog signaling in play to stop interference in finding a good pair of telephone cables

[@user-ut3ll5tf5g]

gpon 2.5gb/mbps huawei

[@laospaulieplayingpc]

So HFC is bad?

[@TechManPat]

Not really it’s just that hfc can provide similar speeds to low end nbn without needing new wiring or more work if you already have it

[@trebleizerquartet1717]

It's all bad.

[@trebleizerquartet1717]

In my case, HFC ran 10 times faster than what I now have on NBN FTTN

[@andrewsloane2413]

i get 150-200 down and 47 up

[@craigjones8558]

Auto focus, yeah right... it was the JD

[@TechManPat]

What’s the jd ???

[@craigjones8558]

Jack Daniel's ;)

[@jacobmitchell4546]

So HFC can’t get anywhere near 100 /40

[@Godlage]

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[@alexer_eternity]

HFC existed before adsl

[@ALLSTARGAMERSUNITED]

Fttn is cheaper but lowers your property value.

[@matingarastudios]

USA hfc since the 90s? They rolled it out in the 70s.

[@toshakrajuprety9817]

Annoying background music..otherwise a good video

[@TheDeeMac12]

I couldn't take u seriously whilst u were wearing that shirt

[@TechManPat]

I have had some personal development, I will now wear the shirt only on special occasions.

[@ATARI-DAVE-73]

FTTN is crap I had the nbn box in my old house that was great. This new house has fiber to the nod and it's crap 🇦🇺🐨👎🏼

[@jokerr3824]

Pathetic speed. Slow as a wet wick ! Australia need to lift its game.