Zigbee PoE Adapter Review & How To with Home Assistant and More

[@sirerikpendragon]

Is there a z-wave equivalent to this?

[@digiblurDIY]

Almost.. tubeszb.com/product/z-wave-poe-kit/

[@danfitzpatrick4112]

I've been using Zigbee for years now. It has never failed once! My absolute favorite

[@digiblurDIY]

Been solid for me as well! Love it.

[@doctornope939]

I've been doing home automation for years. I decided to get serious about zigbee. 10 minutes later I find you did a video 4 days earlier. You're awesome, I've been watching your stuff for years. Keep up the great work!

[@digiblurDIY]

Thanks for watching over the years! Zigbee is still alive and well... It is awesome

[@jim5148]

You're right about the transmit power level. The antenna in the SLZB-06 is waaay better than the antennas built into the various other devices, so reducing its power is appropriate. Very good video! So much good info, thanks!

[@pappyman179]

My POE went down and I had to use a non-powered switch, but I used the USB from an unrelated device to power it and it sat on the LAN just like normal. Worked fine until I could replace the POE switch. I'm using straight Zigbee, haven't tried MQTT yet. It talks to 4 different brands of devices in my house. Thermos, plugs, IR blaster, dimmers, etc.. Using HA, I think it was as easy as setting the switch to pick USB or LAN and telling HA the IP and default port, then it found all the Zigbee devices when they were put in "learn" mode. No hiccups, been using for 6 months or so. HA can send OTA updates to the Zigbee devices, with a click. No complaints, handy lil guy.

[@jr456]

just a few countries used cm Country count 195, only 3 doesn’t use metric

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup! They lied to us in school!

[@davejblair]

My aunt arrived at the train station and I was 'sent to meet her'. That joke just doesn't work so well with inches.

[@yankee-in-london]

yeah the USA was going to switch to metrics in mid 1970's ... everyone in scientific community was thrilled but sadly change is hard (and expensive) and President Carter was fighting an uphill battle politically so he couldn't push it over the line

[@olcpuhh]

9mm is used in US every day, metric enough..

[@digiblurDIY]

@olcpuhh 😂

[@JohnDoe1999-lg7mh]

Thanks. I got mine the other day and have it configured as a router. I still need to add a BT Proxy to my setup. For me, mostly so I can do stuff with my apple watch. Wish I had this type of stuff 30 years ago.

[@juri14111996]

the antenna is not the main problem. the problem with usb dongle is the interface. USB. USB is not practical with virtual servers, especialy if you run a cluster of servers, the vm can move between hosts, so usb is not an option at all.

[@D-Khaz]

I’ve had one of these for a few months and it’s pretty great. Another benefit is that you can charge it with a power brick and then walk around and pair it to all of your devices so that you’re very close to them and they pair quickly. I had a few devices in the garage that refused to pair until I did this.

[@BobSmith42]

What happened when you moved it back to the center? Most guidance I've seen says to pair Zigbee devices from the locations they will live at.

[@digiblurDIY]

Same as well, I always pair in place. If something won't pair due to distance then I probably need to build the mesh out a little more.

[@hobbles3927]

Perfect tutorial, helped me to set up my Zigbee network. Thank you.

[@digiblurDIY]

Glad it helped!

[@EsotericArctos]

Personally, I would not recommend the P7 or P10 version as yet. The processor chip is the same, but the RAM, even with over 100 devices, is less than 30% used on the standard 06. It's tried and true. The M version is good for ZHA, but I would still use the standard TI chipset for Z2M for now. One thing I found is that a few unmanaged switches seem to not like the 100mbps ethernet chip used in the 06 versions. Some won't do the link speed negotiation. Majority work fine out of the box, but there are odd ones that give issues.

[@digiblurDIY]

Exactly. Most users will be fine the the regular SLZB-06 and you can't beat the maturity of the firmware on it.

[@BradleyFordAus]

I've been using the EFR with Z2M, so far it's been bullet proof. Now that the ember driver has exited Beta it gives that extra confidence

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes I tried it a couple years ago and it was a mess. Lots of issues with devices dropping off so I fully understood the experimental flag in Z2M. I do want to try out the new driver once it stabilizes a bit, pretty cool they redid it all.

[@BradleyFordAus]

@@digiblurDIY I should also say I am using 2 of the SMLights EFR versions. As you say the firmware updates are pure bliss!!! I am thinking when I start deploying Matter over Thread it will be with one of these as well

[@digiblurDIY]

I have a current Skyconnect EFR based stick. That is one thing I want to try is to use one of these over ethernet for thread.

[@DeekB1983]

Hey digiblur, can you please link the video regarding the transmit power please?

[@digiblurDIY]

probably this one.. kzbin.infoXBZy2iFoBJA?feature=share

[@JesseG2573]

Great video Travis... I'm looking forward to your Z2M migration video, I'd hate to lose all I have. Currently running 2 Sonoff sticks - 1 as a router and the other as a coordinator with about 50 devices on my system.

[@digiblurDIY]

Working on it this week I hope between some out of town family drama but I'll get there!

[@JesseG2573]

@@digiblurDIY Haing in there buddy

[@VW_Fan]

I was looking to get one that was double the price and then found this site. Thanks for the upload and link! I do wish it was a little bit more compacted or shaped square, but that’s me nit picking!

[@digiblurDIY]

yeah same here. It is an odd shape!

[@seatslider]

So cool! Thanks for sharing this info 👏🏻👏🏻

[@johnadams1976]

"There's just a few countries that use cm or there".... Ok!!! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@digiblurDIY]

YUP! :)

[@olasumbo2663]

Hahahahaha. I was gonna be like. Are you serious man. Lol.😂😂😂

[@digiblurDIY]

Little bit of sarcasm there. ;)

[@euduzao]

Just the rest of the world

[@paul00]

Awesome video thanks so much

[@digiblurDIY]

Very welcome

[@cooljey86]

Hello, I been looking into Zigbee. I'm trying to decide if I should go with tuya Wifi based switches VS Zigbee. I did some gooling, can't seem to find comparison betwen two techs. What would you suggest? Thanks fo the video!!!

[@digiblurDIY]

Really down to if you have neutrals in your walls.

[@calebjpryor]

You always having me spend my money... I do love my tubezb Poe but updating the firmware is difficult.

[@digiblurDIY]

Tough to upgrade for sure if you are pretty much already there.

[@mercenaruss]

Have the same in ZigStar firmware,but opensource

[@digiblurDIY]

Nice!

[@toreador25]

Hello, great video, but the following would be interesting... I have the SMLight SLZB-06M active in zigbee and bt mode, which is why the control panel of the device itself stops working in this mode, and in Home Assistant I have zigbee2mqtt ... Could several SMLight SLZB-06Ms also be configured to extend the zigbee and BT radio in my house? Thanks in advance, regards.

[@digiblurDIY]

Probably not something I would do as BT proxy and Zigbee is too much at the same time in my opinion. Not something I would recommend

[@PedroLiberal]

Correction: The entire world uses metric. Just three countries use other inferior units in their schooling systems, US and Liberia and Myanmar. Out of the three, all three are 3rd world countries so it makes sense. Jokes aside! As long as you know that it won't work "wired" to connect to the zigbee network, this is great. IF you also have a coordinator, and want this device to have a sort of a direct link to the server to work as a router (NOT coordinator) then this won't work. It uses POE to get power only, but it will use the normal zigbee network like any other light bulb or relay. So you may have two or three devices zigbee wired devices working as "stepping stones". But it's fine, I have this and a sonoff P dongle with a 20db antenna, and it's covering my entire home perfectly. It's just that my plan to wire this to the network did not work as I initially expected, but other than that it's been a blast.

[@mrykhoek]

Great video! Is there anything like this for zwave?

[@digiblurDIY]

Thanks! Not that I know of, all I have seen is Pi hats and USB stuff

[@temodeed]

Awesome explanation.

[@digiblurDIY]

Thanks!

[@porcuzburator8778]

What do you mean by "there's just a few countries that use centimeters out there"? :) Anyways, informative detailed videos! Thank you!

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes, exactly

[@unmesh59]

I'm using a USB implementation of a CC2652P configurator in my HA+Z2M setup and the SLZB-06 has some interesting features that make it attractive to upgrade. Would I have to rebuild my Zigbee network from scratch, though, or is there a smooth migration path available if I get the CC2652P version?

[@digiblurDIY]

That's super easy... I just helped someone in Discord with this. There's a process that you migrate the the IEEE address from the old adapter to the new, change the settings in Z2M and start it back up and everything pairs right up.

[@unmesh59]

@@digiblurDIY Awesome! I will find and copy the relevant instructions from Discord and save them for later

[@digiblurDIY]

@unmesh59 search IEEE on my Discord as I pasted it there for future searching when I needed it.

[@unmesh59]

@@digiblurDIY Found it! Where are you getting the 2024 dated firmware?

[@digiblurDIY]

This thread github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/discussions/496

[@fernandofaixa]

Hi! Can I use a sonoff dongle P with this? In this scenario the P dongle would be the coordinator and the slzb-06, if added, would act like a router from another room in my mesh network? Thanks!

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes, you can use that dongle as router.

[@michaelwilliams6442]

Thanks for your video on Zigbee, how do connect to some of my Zwave devices?

[@digiblurDIY]

You'd need to use ZwaveJS and a Zwave USB dongle

[@davejblair]

@@digiblurDIY What is it about the word "dongle"?

[@joaoolx]

I currently have my ZB2MQTT setup in a RPI4 with ZigBee (ZB) USB dongle working great (IoTStack container based). As long as I can provide remote IP connectivity, can I use this device to extend my ZB network, or would it have to be a different ZB domain? In other words, my garage is 10 floors below, I can't reach it with ZB, but I have IP connectivity. Can I integrate this device into my existing ZB network and its devices get integrated into my existing ZB2MQTT, or would I need a second instance of ZB2MQTT?

[@digiblurDIY]

You would need to do a separate z2m instance to run two coordinators.

[@Tntdruid]

Can you jump from the sonoff plus stick to this one whit no problems?

[@digiblurDIY]

Depends on what you are using software wise and what chipset and what chipset you want to go to.

[@Tntdruid]

@@digiblurDIY I won a SLZB-06, from Bearder Tinker giveaway.

[@Tntdruid]

@@digiblurDIY Stopped Z2M and did a backup, add the config stuff from the SMLight SLZB-06, Now its works whit no problems!

[@digiblurDIY]

@Tntdruid nice! Migrating between cc2652 chips is pretty simple. Sometimes devices need a pair again due to the IEEE address change but I just rip and see what needs a kick.

[@Tntdruid]

@@digiblurDIY All my 71 ZigBee devices found the new cordinator.

[@algailimoh]

ihope if you can explain in video how to add multiple zigbee2mqtt in homeassistant please

[@digiblurDIY]

You can one two for sure with ease in HAOS, if you do your own docker thing, it is pretty unlimited.

[@digaum]

Why the 06 and not the 06p7 though? It seems like that's an upgrade for 4 bucks more. What's your opinion on it?

[@digiblurDIY]

I do talk about this a little, it is a newer chip but firmware seems stable'ish. If you have a big network then definitely get the bigger one

[@vikramrajagopal5735]

Hi What channel are you using for Zigbee and Wifi to avoid interference

[@digiblurDIY]

I am using wifi 1, 6 and 11 at 20mhz. Zigbee for me is on 20 and 25.

[@PatrickPereiraVieira04]

Is this all i need to get started with zigbee? I'm an absolute beginner and only have 1 smart light bulb being operated by a dumb switch and an app.

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes and the software to run it, like ZHA or Z2M.

[@subthousandoaks]

thanks man, always appreciate what you do. Your discord helped me with my whole home power monitor setup about a year ago. you suck! lol =)

[@digiblurDIY]

Nice! Glad to help out and I see you listened about what to tell me. Ha!

[@Rickr522]

I wasn’t clear on this. Could I run two (or more) of these things on the same network. One coordinator and one or more as routers?

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes, you can run multiple others are routers on the same network.

[@jeremyjedynak]

A Zigbee-to-Ethernet bridge like the one shown in this video is better than a traditional Zigbee USB dongle in a cluster environment where the HomeAssistant VM could failover to a different physical host and automatically reconnect to the bridge. An alternative would be to physically move the Zigbee USB adapter to the new host whenever a failover occurs, but that obviously wouldn't be automatic.

[@digiblurDIY]

Absolutely! I know people have usb pass thru issue as well and it makes it easy. Definitely a must for a cluster setup.

[@oriolis08]

I have Home Assistant running in a proxmox cluster and love that the VM can run in any Node without any change on the config.

[@jeremyjedynak]

​@@oriolis08Are you also using a Zigbee-to-Ethernet bridge like the one in this video?

[@oriolis08]

@@jeremyjedynak Yes, model SLZB-06M running Z2M without issues for five months aprox.

[@zaprodk]

So if I understand correctly, right now i have the Skyconnect dongle in my Home Assistant server, that works well, but it doesn't cover my garage. Would placing this in my garage work together with the Skyconnect all at the same time?

[@BobSmith42]

Not in the same network, with two coordinators. You could create two networks, or run one coordinator and a repeater.

[@zaprodk]

@@BobSmith42 I want all the devices on the same ZHA setup.

[@BobSmith42]

@@zaprodk you can have one coordinator in a Zigbee network, but you can have multiple routers/repeaters, though. That would help extend the range and support more devices. Zigbee2MQTT apparently supports multiple networks, which might be interesting. Upstairs and downstairs network with optimal placement of the antenna?

[@digiblurDIY]

You just need a few more mains powered devices or one or two of these as routers and expand the network.

[@lsaarave]

hi is there a way to migrate from a sonoff zigbee dongle E to a SLZB-06 with out repairing all my devises Im using Z2M

[@digiblurDIY]

Not that I know of. Manual is it given the two different chipsets

[@AceBoy2099]

Ok, I got 2 of these (06 model) but I can't seem to get it to connect to zha via poe, It's not auto discovering. Any suggestions how to get it to connect? Yes, it's on the same network (at least has the same ip range) as the HA instance.

[@digiblurDIY]

can you see the web interface on them when connected to the router?

[@AceBoy2099]

@digiblurDIY yes, when I connect them to my switch I can get the ip from unifi and connect to them. It just won't populate in HA/zha. I havnt messed too much with z2m to see if that one works, not sure where this yaml file is to edit or if I even have to. Can you have more than 1 coordinator, or should I set them to router?

[@frankyjunior6005]

to use PEO, i need to use supported switch that support POE right?

[@digiblurDIY]

Right. Regular POE switch. If not just use the USB port for now.

[@derekluckhurst9406]

I have been trying to reduce the transmit power. in configuration.yaml under zigbee2mqtt, I have an entry ..transmit_power: 10 but it stays at 20 when I look at the web interface. Would you have a tip on where I am going wrong?

[@digiblurDIY]

Try editing the yaml?

[@derekluckhurst9406]

@@digiblurDIY I tries that, but when I log into the adapters web page, it still shows full strength. I also tried defaulting it and trying again.

[@tjwallace87]

Can this do ZigBee and Thread at the same time?

[@digiblurDIY]

Their EFR chipset model might but I would keep them separated myself. Too many issues out of Thread at this time and I prefer my Zigbee to be stable.

[@SpanSpasties]

Does this take passive 48V POE power?

[@digiblurDIY]

They state 802.3af POE is supported.

[@SpanSpasties]

@@digiblurDIY Thanks, I get that. What I'm trying to find out (including from smlight) is what happens when 48V is sent without negotiation. Such a device is not technically 802.3af, but many devices DO work in that scenario.

[@digiblurDIY]

@SpanSpasties no idea as I do not have the hardware to test it. I would wait for their response

[@TheZayGS]

I've made it to the "Serial Port Settings" page when setting up ZHA, but I keep getting a failure message of ""Failed to connect". I've tried both USB & Wi-FI & it keeps failing. Any insight?

[@digiblurDIY]

did you use the settings from the page? If you want to use USB, you need to change the setting on the GUI of the device itself and say USB and then leave the GUI up so you can easily change it back.

[@TheZayGS]

@@digiblurDIY Yeah I've gone back to the Wi-Fi settings so everything is the same as what you showed, minus the IP address being my own. I've restarted my HA, unplugged the SMLight, etc etc.

[@digiblurDIY]

Latest firmware and zigbee firmware updates went fine?

[@TheZayGS]

As far as I can tell, yes. Core firmware is v2.5.6 & the Zigbee firmware is 20240710.

[@digiblurDIY]

@TheZayGS press the button on it and see if it will go into USB mode. Also make sure a USB A to C cable is used.

[@wingzero0117]

Cool, I think I'm going to order one.

[@digiblurDIY]

The software running on the stick definitely makes it easy to setup and manage. So so nice.

[@THEG12EG]

Isn't another reason to get this if your running a a hypervisor e.g proxmox you can have backup vm's you can restore on any server and not have to worry about physically connecting your dongle

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup! And no pass through stuff to deal with.

[@THEG12EG]

@@digiblurDIY that's the reason I need this 😆

[@shanebekker]

I have seen that ethernet Zigbee devices can interface with both ZHA and Z2M. Can SLZB-06M interface with ZHA & Z2M?

[@digiblurDIY]

Definitely don't do them at the same time for sure. But yes the 06M can do Z2M but it is still marked as experimental, I'd go with the 06 (non M) if you plan or think about using Z2M.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks.

[@wapphigh5250]

I don't get why you would use one of these. Isn't networking a separately powered Zigbee coordinator (rather than keeping it USB) just adding another point of failure? If the location of the co-ordinator is a problem, why not move the whole HA server centrally?

[@digiblurDIY]

It's not tied to the HA box itself deep in a metal cabinet. Not sticking out the back of a server with an extension cable. Some may have issues with USB pass through if they use VMs. Some may use it with a multi node system and can't tie it to one host machine. Better placement in a house. Etc. Tons of reasons.

[@wapphigh5250]

@@digiblurDIY Sure. Thanks for the vid - really appreciate all the effort. It would need to be put on a UPS (even if it's POE) though and a simple move of the server itself might solve Zigbee issues. Adding one of these means more potential failure IMO. Software and hardware and the whole thing could drop off the network. I'm not saying don't do it, the point I was kind of making is "if it aint broke don't fix it."

[@michaelsterling3180]

Do you think this would work if it was inside the ceiling rather than mounted to it? I don’t think my wife would love the look of it on our ceiling 😂

[@digiblurDIY]

Yeah as long as your ceiling isn't metal and grounded.

[@george_gav24]

Lol was thinking about that too

[@macster1000]

Do you know if this solution also works with ZHA as well?

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes I tested it with ZHA in this video.

[@guidobizzarri746]

hi I connected the device to the ethernet port to a switch and then it I powered it via USB, a yellow LED lights up, if I press the button the blue LED lights up, but my home assistant doesn't see it

[@digiblurDIY]

Is it getting an IP on your router?

[@guidobizzarri746]

No​@@digiblurDIY

[@guidobizzarri746]

I managed to enter the coordinator settings, but home assistant doesn't see it for me

[@jackipiegg]

12:09 Does this work without HA or when HA is down? Could you make a video with zigbee (sensors/remotes) and tasmota "RULES", from what I gather that could run independently without any HA. Is that true?

[@digiblurDIY]

you could do Zigbee2MQTT and NodeRed or something if HA was down. As long as MQTT and Z2M ran on a different host.

[@jackipiegg]

@@digiblurDIY Would be great if you made a tasmota "rules" video on zigbee. I'm reading the official tasmota stuff and I'm totally lost.

[@digiblurDIY]

There's no Tasmota stuff here in this setup.

[@vikramrajagopal5735]

At 0:40 what is the specs of the server u are using.

[@digiblurDIY]

I built it in my unRaid build videos earlier this year. i7-14700k I got on black Friday deal.

[@gzxto]

at 6:00 "Just a few counties that use cm out there" Only three countries in the world use the imperial system as their official system of measurement: the U.S., Liberia and Myanmar [source: Buchholz]. Some countries, like Canada, use the metric system as their official unit system but allow the use of the imperial system in many contexts [Source: McQuillan]. 😀

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup, just a few.

[@jmr]

Who else has one? Next digi live he should have a guest with one. Then connect it to a lightbulb at his house over Wireguard. It would be a killer demo. 😂

[@digiblurDIY]

Yes! That would be awesome. I need to check out the speed of things. I'm sure it should be fine with 100ms or lower speeds.

[@marceloncosta]

Is it possible to use this device as a ROUTER firmware connected to the coordinator via an Ethernet cable? I'm having trouble expanding my ZigBee network. I need to take the signal to the basement of my house, but I can't do it just by using other “router devices”. In the basement, I have another router from the mesh network, so I thought about using this device with ROUTER firmware, connected via an Ethernet cable to the router, and so it connects to the coordinator device that is connected to the Raspberry where Home Assistant runs, which is connected to another mesh router at the top of the house. Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks!

[@digiblurDIY]

You can power it like that but Zigbee doesn't backhaul over ethernet to routers. That's an option for Thread but that Matter stuff is kind of a mess still. You could use a directional antenna if it is far as these sticks have higher power and bigger antennas than say a smart plug would. Great to make the hop.

[@marceloncosta]

@@digiblurDIY thanks!

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Not trying to be a jerk. But it'd have been great if this were a 2 part video.... Showing SLZB-06 setup, and then the additional models later, perhaps even separately. Its kinda confusing with the jumping around different models.

[@digiblurDIY]

I only had the one model. SLZB-06 is the one to get.

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

@@digiblurDIY Ahhhh ok. I must have misunderstood. I am really now stuck trying to figure out the whole Zigbee2MQTT implementation. I swear... it's like, as soon as I install something, I have to find a tutorial on how to install 3 other things it depends on, and find instructions which have the same implementation on top of it.... It's rough out here with these 1st world problems. LOL

[@TheRealAnthony_real]

somebody bought the whole stock already ..

[@digiblurDIY]

Try this one? s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dk3tykB (watch the flavor selection on the page)

[@TheRealAnthony_real]

@@digiblurDIY bought 2 from the other link in russian/Ukrainian ?

[@kiloy1006]

Yep

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup

[@KennethsTeknik]

"A few countries outthere using cm's" 🤣😂🤣

[@digiblurDIY]

Glad you caught the sarcasm

[@KennethsTeknik]

@@digiblurDIY Hey, I'm danish, we're experts in it 😲 🙂

[@TismoGaming]

YOU SUCK. Lol Jk I love your videos and your help and all the guys at your discord.

[@digiblurDIY]

Lol. Love it! I see someone following the video.

[@curious-homebody]

23:20 😂😂

[@digiblurDIY]

Lol.

[@sygad1]

LOL, cm, there's only your country dude that ain't

[@digiblurDIY]

Lol... Indeed. Just a couple. They told us in the 80s it would be all done worldwide. Still waiting.

[@sygad1]

@@digiblurDIY p.s. love your content, really enjoy the no BS guides you do

[@Sparky_D]

Places that use metric.... Everywhere other than the USA. 😉

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup! They lied to us in school!

[@djashjones]

If you are old enough you can use both metric and imperial 😎 Which country can you order a 30cm pizza? 🤣🤣

[@digiblurDIY]

Canadian thing?

[@OrlandoPaco]

"Other world"? Oh! You mean the rest of humanity, even the "imperial's" are moving up to metric you now, ask any Brit!

[@digiblurDIY]

I poke a bit of sarcasm as they told us years ago. Oh, by 2000 it's all going to be one system.

[@aleksanderujbukant]

Most of the world use metric system man......

[@digiblurDIY]

Yup! They told us in the 80's, within 10-20 years it will be all metric. LOL

[@carltonwbrooks]

If going to this device do you need to re sync all the devices. You showed pairing of the plug, but is that new or already in your network. I use zigbee2mqtt on a docker setup how might this affect my setup. Lasstly what is the range of the device?

[@digiblurDIY]

What are you using on Z2M now for a coordinator?

[@kristof9497]

Thanks.