We Have Accepted Mediocrity

[@samisdeadxxx1513]

i honestly watch more videos about anime than actual anime

[@anevtuscrynis3954]

=>= Oh really? Just watch anime, if you enjoy it that much...

[@okaysoanyways2645]

Same

[@namelessjavelin5444]

I've noticed watching an almost unreasonable amount of youtube videos about anime actually ends up being the least time-consuming way to find anime I'll actually enjoy

[@eroalduin7305]

Same but mostly because i just don't watch anime besides jojo recently

[@oliverkolossoski1434]

@@anevtuscrynis3954 The problem is... Anime episodes are too long.. Oh wait. This video is also 26 minutes long

[@TK0921]

"Anime needs to stop copying itself." Agreed. It's like inbreeding. If a population inbreeds for long enough you lose all genetic diversity and all you're going to get are offspring with deformities. Kind of an ironic comparison when you look at how much of a fetish modern anime seems to have with incest.

[@stevencontreras84]

And not just incest. Rape too. For example, there is an anime with giant insects that'll be released soon which has these sexy girls getting raped by them....

[@feliciaf8]

yeah wtf is with the incest shit

[@feliciaf8]

@@stevencontreras84 what anime is that?

[@xN0XvRVLEZx]

@@feliciaf8 The island of the giant insects, it kinda sucks, but I know why you wanna watch it *wink* ;)

[@satriaputrapratama4703]

Thats actually an interesting analogy and quite accurate too

[@juliantruitt4037]

I think anime writing might be suffering even more than the animation.

[@castorbr5695]

Yeah, much more

[@ceeryle]

Good writing can excuse for bad animation, but it's rare for it to work vice versa.

[@kurozumi9834]

@@ceeryle Well, I mean...Ever heard of Demon Slayer ? I mean yeah it's rare but sometimes it really works like hell

[@DarksideModerator27]

Someone had to say it.

[@nowaydude322]

@@kurozumi9834 What about demon slayer? It is the most overrated anime in the last decade if not ever.

[@DatDude_]

That "showing your mom an anime" reminded me of something My mom watches a shit ton of those boring house rebuilding shows and a lot of boring/bad movies but when me and my siblings did a One Punch Man s1 marathon, she sat down, and in just the first episode she was completely glued to the screen. she was really amazed (which you dont see often even when the show/movie is good.) After the marathon, she was smiling and was energetic, "That was great!" she said while grinning. I just seem to not forget that moment since she always has this poker face when she usually watches something on tv. Maybe this is one of the reasons why I am SO disappointed with OPM season 2, I still have hope for it after seeing that really well animated punch when Saitama got upset at Suiryu

[@RaginDragn24]

I think season 2 of OPM is just fine. I think people are disappointed because the expectations were too high for something that they had issues with

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

I hate opm and my mother would probably love that show as well.

[@joelcobb5702]

DOOOD! im going to show my mom one punch man right now :) i have to take care of my parents after all so yeah, im with them. might as well make mom a good fan.

[@jibrael5705]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Why do you hate OPM?

[@sophiaang643]

@@jibrael5705 because people have different tastes for animes, maybe it's not his cup of tea like it is ours.

[@MxGerryNava]

God, editing this must have been a nightmare

[@CanaleYourGame]

Themexicansnob Well, you can't talk about mediocrity if you are mediocre yourself

[@Krommeniedijk]

Davoo is a hero.

[@MrLCGO]

Acording to Davoo's Twitter, this has been in the oven for months, so yeah...

[@Cyberclone07]

Film Renegado, eres tú?

[@TyudaiKishasa]

The editing in this is incredible. If this is what happens when Digibro uploads quality video's once per month, then I'm happy to wait untill may for the next.

[@TheVrede2]

"will berserk be done before I die?" ... HAHAHAHAHA *starts crying*

[@Genesix6]

Nope, I think it will be done in another 10 years

[@griffithdidnothingwong4608]

Put your grasses on boy. Nothing will be wong.

[@voltron-eb6sx]

_TELL ME WHY_ *_AIN'T NOTHING_** **_-BUT A HEARTACHEE-_*

[@mementodespair9067]

@@Coffeetime110 Yuri Again! .o.

[@ponestar69]

I spent some time in Japan working in a non-anime related industry, and through a passion for sports I also got to work with Japanese kids a couple days a week. From what I saw the big fear for the average person there is rocking the boat. They don't want to change things and they are very afraid of upsetting their seniors. In the hospitality industry this caused a lot of situations where employees were aware of issues but afraid of bringing them up with the manager because they don't want to "make trouble". If that sounds stupid and frustrating, you don't get the half of it. This thinking ended up being drilled into the kids too. There's two generations of adults over there that I would generalize as afraid and cowardly. I do feel that this has caused stagnation in several industries in Japan, and is a reason why entrepreneurship is at an all time low. What's your take, Digi?

[@qjtvaddict]

ponestar69 this will destroy Japan eventually

[@mynameisconnorimtheandroid6080]

ponestar69 Playing it safe is ironically the most dangerous thing to do

[@doon5061]

ponestar69 true

[@zeddy2284]

I have head they'll do anything to avoid trouble

[@korinoriz]

The cynicism is strong with this comment and it's replies. Especially since most of these people don't even live in Japan. You see risks are just that, risks. I'm sure there's been series to come out that didn't perform well that were different, but then we have people like here who are like "why aren't they taking risks?"

[@KaeraNeko]

When you mentioned Kyoto Animation, I was like "oh no." Then I scrolled down to look at the release date of the video "oh no..." I'm now sad and angry all over again.

[@syintigs5543]

Who wouldn’t be mad. I think anime has regressed a couple of years due to that sociopath.

[@hacsakalllar4038]

What happened with kyoto animation? Im not too knowledgable regarding anime firms

[@chrisbutorange]

Hacı Sakallılar an arsonist burned down the building killing a lot of animators and other people, search it up for more info

[@hacsakalllar4038]

@@chrisbutorange holy shit, i knew this but forgot it was kyoto. A shame to remember

[@chrisbutorange]

@@hacsakalllar4038 yeah i was legitimately depressed about that, I wouldve thought anime would stay out of the cruelness of the world.. but i suppose not

[@mandapanda1207]

"What happened to making a classic?" You don't "make a classic" to make a classic. A movie or show BECOMES a classic.

[@koseanimation118]

Amanda C thats the point. We havent gotten any classics. I think thats a major indicator of quality right there

[@hairyballs089]

Amanda C I think you can tell if a show will be revered when it comes out.

[@TenshiNoAme]

Quality is not the major indicator of what make a classic. Otherwise we wouldn't have something like The Room as one. No one make a classic, it became one naturally over time. No one can tell which show will become one, its even more true when the show just came out. No one can predict what the futur hold. I can't count the number of series that got aclaimed by everyone as futur classic when it came out only to be forgotten not even a year later. And with the room again, who would have tought that a movie so freaking bad would have such an influence decades after its first premiere? No one decide what is a classic. No one can describe it properly. Its not about how good the scenario, soundtrack or character are. A classic just have something that is much more than that. It just have... a soul What is hated today can be whorshipped decades later. And vice versa. We have no saying in that in the end.

[@hairyballs089]

I agree, but I think you can tell if it will one day become a classic by the overall census of the film. If you look at the original release of star wars, it was universally revered and almost no detractors. Plus if it does good with sales after it's box office run, then it will at least get cult status if not a classic status.

[@hairyballs089]

To add to my last comment, there was almost no one that outright hated star wars on it's release and it was popular with every demographic. Plus film makers everywhere loved that movie so I think a better indicator of a classic will be how it's received by the film maker/animator community.

[@cloudbasedbear]

tbh this feels like the same with American Cartoons.... it started off with a passion then went downhill in quality

[@PippaPasses]

I’m not fighting you on this. I’m asking for an example so that I understand. Please explain.

[@cloudbasedbear]

@@PippaPasses I don't know how to explain really :c But people did animation because they loved it back then... but overtime it felt like people werr doing it just for the money... Jokes didn't land, it didn't really capture people the same... it became generic and samey.... but again, there's those few exceptions

[@tagair211]

You know what's the most recent Western animation I enjoyed and that isn't Disney ? Gumball. Fucking. Gumball !!

[@deditor7867]

@@PippaPasses I will try to help explain. Shows like Teen Titans (ORIGINAL), Regular Show, Ben 10 (original) and Adventure Time were great shows and they were back then. But after that, shows like Teen Titans Go (terrible new show), Uncle Grandpa, and the Ben 10 reboot existed. These are recent ones, and two of them are still ongoing, one even longer than the original!! The only good cartoon show now is The Amazing World of Gumball, but that show unfortunately ended a month ago...(or this month I forgot). There is a rumor there will be a movie to end the series, but that will be it. And the money thing, this could unfortunately be said about Spongebob. Spongebob was an amazing show around its first few seasons, but then it went too long to the point where it was clear they were just continuing the show for the money. It's recent seasons are terrible. Especially...*Ink Lemonade,* god... But anyways, hope this helped you understand what we mean.

[@rizie7355]

@@tagair211 gumball started off kinda eh but it got pretty entertaining later on

[@nooneinparticular5256]

My god... Anime is INBREEDING.

[@millionelectricvolts6117]

Hooooooooowheeeeeeeee... Come on, as if the incest genre hasn't spread in the anime industry.

[@safir2241]

THAT’S THE PERFECT DESCRIPTION

[@MizantropMan]

Holy shit, it all makes sense now.

[@topic260]

anime is commiting hentai plot

[@morado5827]

Its the fanservice that ruined modern anime

[@CommunistRainbowdash]

Your parents are embarrassed by CGI crowds in anime, but not by all the fanservice involving underage girls?

[@MajinSayon]

Daaaymn, I was thinking the same thing. "Cool story bro, but no. CGI crowds would be the last thing your mom would worry about while watching anime."

[@ShadowX012]

In most cultures its acceptable, even if its agreed to be kept low key.

[@lilylopnco]

@@ShadowX012 Considering that Japan's age of consent is 13, and much of the world's is 15 or 16, and even many US states set it lower than the federal 18 to 16 or 17.

[@lilylopnco]

I think it goes without saying that teenagers are a bit different than young kids though.

[@lilylopnco]

@Adrian Dominguez www.google.com/search?q=age+of+consent+in+japan&oq=age+of+consent+in+japan&aqs=chrome..69i57.7767j0j7&client=ms-android-att-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[@TheeFoolishNoob]

"you ever have that moment when you're tying to show your parents anime?" No. *No I haven't.*

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

The Foolish Noob Nobody does. I mean, I was watching a show, my mom came in the room when cream soup fell on this girl, getting all over her face and in her mouth and shit, so I skipped back, bam, cleavage. Skipped to the opening and paused it.

[@supermariosunshine64]

I showed my mom Barefoot Gen and she loved it. You just have to know your audience.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

PancakesNFreedom Okay, here's my point. Would you watch Konosuba with your parents? Konosuba isn't trash. But there's a constant flow of Aqua's ass hanging out. Would you want to look at Aqua's ass with your parents?

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

PancakesNFreedom And I'm not saying you should be ashamed of liking what you like. I'm saying there are anime with themes you don't watch in public. Tell me you're going to watch Grisaia no Kajitsu in public with your headphones off. Even though there's a fuck ton of sexual abuse in the second season.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

PancakesNFreedom I never said anime wasn't art, you're shoving words into my mouth to expand your pointless argument.

[@safir2241]

There’s enough isekai magic girl anime for an AI to be shown it & make an anime of it’s own

[@storyteller5215]

Technically, it actually can, but only in a form of script.

[@zeefacterfafter3]

This aged way, way too well. like predict the future well

[@tylerkarnes2947]

I would like to point out that mediocrity wasn’t killed by the industry, it has been killed by the viewers. Redline, quite possibly the most beautiful anime movie of the last 20 years, was hand drawn and given the love and care it deserved. But it flopped. It is a masterpiece, but the anime community gave more of a shit about the magical girl show of the season. We are the problem with the industry...

[@MrBLUOFF]

Why put effort on something very few care?

[@paranidherc]

Redline flopped, because it looked like someone tried really really hard to be special. It wasn't special in itself, like Jashin-chan, or Re: Zero, or Steins;Gate or even Parasite - it TRIED to be special, by going over the top to a degree that made it unwatchable. Gurren Lagann / Needless are one thing - they are doing it with a purpose. That purpose may be slapstick, but it is a purpose. Redline just had a bunch of people sitting down, going "How can we make aaaarrrrrrttttt" and then they collectively sucked each other's dicks for the next 5 hours at the thought of them being the most special snowflakes. The artstyle is way too much, the story is bogstandard and the cringe is real. Nothing about Redline is masterpiece-worthy, except the amount of money and effort wasted.

[@drifter402]

"cringe is real" opinion discarded

[@Outerparadox]

Jesus you must have terrible anime taste if you say Redline try to hard to be special.

[@tylerkarnes2947]

paranidherc what are you talking about? Redline was the last fully drawn anime movie, with a fun story that managed to have deeper undertones, while packing it all in an over the top 90s anime styled package. You are telling me that looking back now, that Re: fucking zero (a bland isekai with a main character that is more a self insert than a character creator) is more special than the last breath of 80s/90s style animation and story

[@Luna-ry8lv]

Honestly, isn't majority of every medium mediocre?

[@Flugmorph]

90% of every given medium. Sturgeon's law.

[@nekozombie]

doesn't mean it should be accepted :/

[@thebookwormhotel5336]

@@nekozombie so everything in every creative medium should be groundbreaking masterpieces? That's not possible 90% of all books written are terrible wattpad or manga trash . Like it's not possible for funding and animation and also mass appeal all the time

[@nekozombie]

@@thebookwormhotel5336 No, that's not the point (that would we awesome though). What we shouldn't accept is an industry and economic model that welcomes and fosters mediocrity or even below average products and behavior. That puts a dent in our education and culture. Mediocrity will always exist, since it's intrinsic to our reality, but that doesn't mean it should be encouraged and rewarded. It's a vicious cycle, regretfully. Also, mediocrity should be *much* better than the mediocrity we have now. What I mean is that our middle ground should consist of things that in our culture are considered to be "above average". Do you get what I'm trying to say?

[@nekozombie]

@@thebookwormhotel5336 What I'm trying to say is that mediocrity shouldn't be harmful, in a truly cultured world mediocrity should be still stimulating and actually rewarding in many levels. In our culture mediocre stuff is mostly just garbage. But that's probably a perspective thing, if we were in that society we would ask for more, just like I'm doing right now. Isn't that interesting?

[@bocodamondo]

i gotta say, the editing of the video is freaking amazing haha

[@jnliewmichael4235]

bocodamondo In the sense of work needed, yes, that I wholeheartedly agree. If it's on the technique of editing... I don't know.

[@aestheticgarbage6671]

bocodamondo It is?

[@takemetoyonk]

When it comes to sex in anime, I'm waiting for that anime about wholesome loving sex between partners. I have no where else to say this.

[@DgShadowChocolate]

The best I can suggest is a show called I Can't Understand What My Husband is Saying. Cute, Funny, an adult show that's actually mature, and kinda sweet. (shrugs)

[@mat2468xk]

Hetero: Koiito Kinenbi Lesbian: Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Anata to Koibito Tsunagi

[@MaryArts]

Hm, White Album or something like that. Also in the Manga Nozoki Ana realationships are like in real life.

[@takemetoyonk]

Wow thanks for the replies :P I didn't think I would actual get anyone talking

[@mat2468xk]

Ask and you shall receive, my friend.

[@BlackCriticGuy]

Damn once again you are able to speak out my frustration with the anime industry AND the state of AniTuber content better than I could ever possibly dream. Another great video man. I might check out that DTube you talk of as well. Thanks for keeping it real man :)

[@kymox9945]

blackcriticboss

[@mr.cuddles6432]

I mean your not wrong, but animesnob , uberhikari, and bobsamurai have been doing this for years, but I guess only the popular youtubers get any attention.

[@xarporte]

The 80s and 90s were like golden era. Hopefully Anime will have a resurgence like the Japanese gaming industry.

[@Pookie2112]

Dont be a hipster we have amazing shows these days

[@mr.cuddles6432]

true, but we had better shows back then and also we didn't have 50 anime a season drowning out the few good anime that get produced.

[@LePLusCoolDesCools]

I think it's more about how so many people are so used to mediocrity they don't even realize it is. It's just all they know.

[@blueflare7687]

Dear lord this editing is just freaking unreal with how good it is. Good freaking job.

[@fujintakama7883]

Mediocrity runs rampant in any popular and contemporary media because the companies that lisence and produce the material consistently want to pull in viewer numbers instead of actually creating something astounding. Mass appeal comes about as a result of the producers realising that people will flock to and pay for material that takes lower effort, thus they will put less effort in as it will widen their profit margin. It's not so much that people have accepted mediocrity (although it is, to an extent) but its more so that the anime industry is at the cusp of reaching that point in many creative medium's life cycles where it becomes popular enough for the lowest common denominator to fill more and more of the target viewing audience, and their primary goal is to simply consume that which is easiest to consume; requiring the least amount of thought, consideration or understanding. If you look at industries such as contemporary film and pop music, this much is clear and has been clear for many years, and we should consider ourselves fortunate that we even get anime that retain their creativity, power and nuance in the modern day and get recognised for it. While it is sad to see this start to happen to the anime industry, I'm afraid it was inevitable, and all we can hope to do is postpone it by acting in the interest of what is genuinely created with passion and what is ingenuinely created for mass appeal.

[@KironVB]

"contemporary film and pop music, this much is clear and has been clear for many years" Star Wars and Star Trek and Jurassic World are such great examples of this. Films/Series that don't really stand on their own and are really just copy-paste shit out of a machine scripts, but rely largely on nostalgia bait and references. *Clap Clap I know what that is* The rise of the "Sequel Reboot" is the most fucking cynical shitty trend in film.

[@KingofMisfitIsland]

This is the best video you and The Davoo have created and is the summation of everything that was boiling in my thoughts ever since getting into knowing about anime production. Every frame in this is cut to precision and I cannot overstate how much I love this. Thanks for not subscribing to mediocrity because there will always be an audience for good shit.

[@a8191]

Yeah, fuck geoff

[@Nekoszowa]

I just wish isekai harem animes will finally die...

[@freefall8265]

Honestly for once, I feel the same

[@squidgaurd6927]

Yeah shit succs fam.

[@maximo8066]

nah get rid of the unnecessary isekai leave the harem stuff alone they got nothing to do with this

[@snivyservine6361]

Kill both.

[@maadtee6281]

Not just the harem but getting op and being way better than the people who actually live in that world

[@alias4795]

It's no wonder why anime has such a bad reputation amongst people who's never heard of it when passion less mass produced dogshit always manage to be the most popular show each season because fans with low standards like to praise it to high heavens.

[@Coramelimane]

Kawajiri *TRIED* to crowd fund a second Ninja Scroll, it failed because people complained it wasn't moe. I am not kidding.

[@Harrinsain]

holy shit

[@Stalaktik]

what the fuck

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

What does "Wasn't Moe" mean??

[@Stalaktik]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki wasn't cute. Like every kyoani productions

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

@@Stalaktik oh, but who cares if it doesn't look cutesy, it's an amazing and powerful anime movie.

[@aramondehasashi3324]

I think you give the 80's to much credit. We probably saw so much great stuff because thats what made it over here. I'm sure there were thousands of crappy 80's anime we were never exposed to.

[@paranidherc]

Typical NGS (Nostalgia Goggles Syndrome). Same reason people point at old games and claim there were the best thing since sliced bread. Back then there was barely anything to chose from. it was also something new, something exciting. By now anime is in the same position as movies & tv-series. Some are good, some are bad, some are artsy as fuck. I watched Armitage, because a buddy kept droning on about how great it was and...well, maybe it was great back in the day, but as an avid reader of Sci-Fi, i kinda saw the plot of Armitage a dozen times over already. Especially since it starts and falls with the fact that we have nowadays people defending radical islamists. Anybody gonna sit there and tell me nobody would come to the defense of cute, innocent looking, fully intelligent robots, i gonna laugh at him until he leaves.

[@RedZeshinX]

There was indeed bad anime back in the 80's. One of my most strongly disliked anime is actually from the 80's. But usually it was bad as a result of either having low budget, running out of budget, being created by passionate yet inexperienced talent, poor casting, etc. Modern anime's problem is conceptual, it's spiritual, it's all shallow, self cannibalizing, tropey, stagnant, pandering drivel created by otaku, there are no longer visionary film buffs passionate about cinema and the visual medium as an expressive art.

[@RedZeshinX]

Hakurei Oni - The 80's were a lightning in a bottle generation for Japanese animation culture. This is because Japan was uniquely poised to not only consume and enjoy the creative cultural explosion of Western cinema following the game-changing juggernaut release of Star Wars, but also economically robust enough to attract, nurture and indulge the talents of many film buff enthusiasts. I don't think you genuinely understand the significant differences in the motivations and worldviews between artists of these generations: many of the directors and animators in Japan during the 80's used animation as a means to an expressive end because Japan lacked a mature film industry to realize their creative aspirations. This is why the animation medium expanded under their direction over the course of the 80's culminating in the development of anime as a cinematic artform, even working on international productions ranging from Inspector Gadget and Sherlock Hound to the Mysterious Cities of Gold, and so producing a plethora of auteurs from Anno to Miyazaki to Takahata to Oshii. The generation of animators and directors in the modern era are almost entirely constituted of otaku, geeks who grew up with anime and are simply perpetuating their narrow fandom, catering to and cannibalizing the styles and tropes developed by their predecessors. You say my nostalgia blinds me, but keep in mind that I opened my last comment saying one of my most disliked anime's actually comes from the 80's generation (Outlanders). In truth, it isn't that my nostalgia blinds me, it's that you're young and have a personal emotional investment in anime because you strongly identify with it, and from the narrow frame of the medium that you're familiar with take any criticism as a personal affront. What you have is contemporaneous nostalgia goggles: a strong enthusiasm for modern works for which you're already narrowly sentimental about. I already recognize that anime is an imperfect medium, subject to the caprice of its patron capitalist system. But I'm dispassionate, distanced, experienced and sufficiently objective enough to recognize and admit, as Digibro has, the shifts within the industry over the transition period this past half century from booming bubble economy to the "Lost Decades" of recession and technological advances leading to stagnation. I'm not saying all anime now is "bad", but the mediocrity that Digibro speaks to is apparent to anyone who's been following this industry long enough. And if you think it's just me and Digibro, why not listen to voices from within the anime industry? Such as Gainax creator Hideaki Anno who not only laments the role he played in the "otaku-fication" of the medium, but based on the changing economy and labor pool expresses growing concerns that anime as we know it in Japan will cease to exist, only to emerge as a product of neighboring countries throughout Asia? Or take industry mavens like Jonathan Clements, who cites the fact that a full third of the animation production labor pool in Japan is now outsourced outside the country will likely continue "until a Japanese animation company is three men in a Tokyo apartment, outsourcing every other aspect of production overseas.” What about the director of Ghost in the Shell Mamoru Oshii, who denounces modern anime as a "copy of a copy of a copy that is no longer a form of 'expression.'", driven by otaku and merchandise? These sentiments are neither new nor original to the likes of myself and Digibro, and are being expressed by people within the industry itself.

[@user-ur7jl1fx4c]

Hakurei Oni i agree with you entirely, all eras of anime have their flaws but the main issue with newer anime is the crippling lack of risk taking. there is risk taking involved (like he said in his video about devilman crybaby which whether people likd it or not was hugely successful.) in time the good anime is all that will be remembered. but i think the main thing critics and many people are looking for are new inventive anime coming out now which has not happened as much in awhile due to the lack of risk taking and too many studios playing it safe. more or less every era had bad shows but we are looking to see some of the new gems that just have not come around to the industry yet, but knowing how things play out it will probably come around soon.

[@user-ur7jl1fx4c]

i think his main issue was the anime appealing only to anime fans and not to a wider audience that exsists in society

[@impireon]

This was 6 years ago and we're still sinking in the same boat without doing anything

[@Katsuya81]

Every anime has 12 episode limit can't wait in 5 years where they cut it in half and just go for 6 episode series

[@somerandomfatguy.3384]

16min per episode.

[@troyeason8238]

Who the hell is this and what has he done with Digibro?

[@tdfern1]

I guess a new name & term that perfectly describes Digibro & his occupation. I don't know his name has a good ring to it.

[@iamhungey12345]

He ate him.

[@ahmh1000]

This IS Digibro's channel, he just changed the name.

[@MewsAdventure]

It’s digibro’s Stoned Pseudo-Philosopher evil twin and we all wish he’d go away

[@Thundersz]

Wennsday Ruairi i honestly like digi's new content. Its much more interesting and more visually interesting.

[@Ruby_Dev]

I feel like this video applies in 2020 more than ever. But not just to anime and youtube, but to like- all of media. Video games, movies, streaming, even the most bare bone social media post- we accepted mediocrity. Humanity has accepted mediocrity.

[@SiMeGamer]

I'd say the main catalyst for this is consumer culture. I don't blame a single studio. I only blame the consumers. People don't watch or read a review before watching a movie. They see it and they click it. Or when the cinemas are open, they just go on opening night for some fking reason. Video games come out and people buy them before knowing literally anything about them. They don't wait a few weeks for a reviewer to make something after they played it for 100 hours. They just go and buy it and then leave disappointed because some polish is not there. Nobody filters. Nobody cares. And so who wins? Those who put in the least effort. The more you make, the more of the market you get since quality is not a parameter anymore. It took 3 atrocious Star Wars movies in order to make the Solo film be only on par with production costs. So it was still successful in some respect. The fact that EVERY movie gets all it's money back or sometimes sextuples it's budget despite being absolutely horrible because nobody gives a sht. If you are not a reviewer, you shouldn't go and consume products unless it's something that is extremely personal to you. There are properties I go and watch without reviews because I don't care about their quality. I go for an experience check and analysis. I'm my own reviewer in that sense because I care about the quality of art and sometimes going blind helps a lot. But for most things I go through many reviews to make sure there is a consensus and that I'm not paying for something that doesn't adhere to some fking standard that I somehow still maintain. When it comes to video games, I never buy anything blindly except a handful of titles that I want to experience regardless of quality. When it comes to products and services that all these KZbinrs fking advertise I go and watch countless videos before deciding to buy one. The tech industry is mostly fantastic in that respect. You have so many resources and people seem to use them. But art is shunned. I don't understand almost anything in music despite playing piano for 15 years and my favorite videos I created are music related. But I don't go and buy an album. I don't pay for music services and just put auto play. I consult with friends whose tastes I am close with who actually care about quality. Some are professional musicians and music producers. The only medium I don't trust anyone's opinion on is manga because I love manga to death and I prefer to just experience it all myself and test everything under the sun that I can afford with my money and time. But with everything else I consult professionals I trust. People whose opinions matter more than others because they refined their taste. People that actually have standards I agree with. A super majority of consumers don't do what I do. And it's not because they don't have time. It's because they don't care as long as they can waste some time. I don't understand how someone can live like where they don't actually have anything more than a shallow view of all the art they consume. Give them anything and they will be satisfied. A business cannot compete for quality when the market doesn't demand it. They will take it and say it's really good, but it won't matter if the next thing you produce is trash. They will consume it regardless, call it trash and wait for the next thing. I haven't watched anime in 3 years now and I don't care to. Maybe someday I'll check some shows that have been heavily recommended. I despise Twitter. I follow 3 people because the rest post so much vapid sht for no fking reason. Nobody cares about the quality of their posts. People just accept their feed to be a whole lot of disposable garbage. Idk man. Until people start having standards, this will never end. Mediocrity will thrive until the end of time. Sorry for the rant. I rarely get to talk about this stuff and I've been feeling like this for so many years (I'm an animator and I haven't watched anime for 3 years. wtf) and everyone blames the studios and companies and not the people that encourage the studios and companies to act like this. This is pretty much the best video on the subject which I love to revisit a lot but it too blames the industry rather than the consumers who demand this mediocrity (by not demanding quality). It's not too great being constantly aware of this but it's better to be aware that be blind and perpetuate it further. Thanks to anyone reading this little rant. Never planned it to be this long. Keep refining your tastes and be a smart consumer :]

[@bindukopparapu2795]

@@SiMeGamer I completely agree with you. It is to the point where I'm considering quitting anime simply because all the good shows leave gaping holes in my heart and literally give me anxiety. Meanwhile, there are so few good shows coming out these days that I can't fill in that anxiety anymore. And as you said, this is not restricted to anime anymore. I'm putting a lot of hope in halo Infinite and that it might be a good game but that only does so much. Netflix is a shell of its former self and the only show on Amazon Prime Video that I like so far is The Expanse. Simply put, media is dying. I genuinely scared that the 2010s may be the last decade of truly high quality shows that you can watch without getting ripped off by companies or digging through the internet.

[@danielkings2443]

Here from the future. It all worked out and anime hit the mainstream (on the back of the slave labor in Mappa)

[@allanredhill8682]

well......thats the problem with media in general. Games are turning into cashgrabs, anime is as well, Hollywood is for a long time and the trend wont go anywhere soon imo.

[@GeteMachine]

Anime has never been a cash-grab, unlike gaming or mass produced music where fanboys throw money at the same mediocre companies and their practices giving them billions of dollars a year for garbage, anime has always been a niche that struggled for actual investment. The cash-grabbing for them is desperate marketing off what works and the most widely spread fetishes people have to staple a certain market. Hollywood is the opposite where people get maximized pay for mediocrity if it sells. Anime producers do not.

[@mileskay7566]

As a game developer, don't remind me; my industry is in trouble. The surplus indie market is invaded with rapid-fire mediocrity to the point most people just ignore indie games (there are millions of them so it all becomes white noise). AAA games are mostly low-risk cookie-cutter products about killing will guns. If you're a developer in your 50s, no one will hire you anymore. Don't even get me started on casual mobile phone games.

[@jarpyr6791]

Lloyd Irving Incredibly naive and ill-informed

[@ZZI44418]

Matthew Kordon yep that's true. i find a bunch of good games that deserve more people, and even one case where a game needed that greater quantity of people. However, there are these larger name indies (trove, robocraft, and way too much more) that end up doing shitty cash grabs that further hurt those categories for everyone. Mobile games are shit. forget they ever existed. you could make a better game anytime if you genuinely tried (genuinely because really is too half-assed for something actually worthwhile). anime is more like: we're doing it for our audience, but they ask for so damn much we have to resort to mediocrity and hope that we can distract them with something that looks cool. honestly entertainment just sucks, and the people are far too manipulated to realize the truth, and even run away from it. people are far too soft and fragile these days

[@Dracomut]

It's been like this for years too, people are finally just noticing

[@tea-stomach-cycle6385]

>The 80s were the greatest period in anime history >entire favourites list is post 2000s ???

[@Robersora]

it's about a spirit lost, an ethos to making quality animation with passion

[@ShinjiJynx]

@arch btw Nope. Good taste goggles

[@pj2345-v4x]

@arch btw it's almost like the whole video was an essay explaining his reasoning you trog

[@MelonTeee]

This is definitely interesting, but I'm also interested as to what you think a stereotypical anime character looks like. When you mentioned Pokemon and their character designs and making them look "less anime", I understood what you meant completely but I'm also curious as to what you see that makes you say that. Is it the lack of big eyes in some characters? The hair styles? Even skin colours? If so I'm interested to know if you classify characters from shows such as Haikyuu and Kuroko no Basuke as "stereotypical anime" looking characters since their designs seemed quite different to me from most anime, but you may see it in a different way.

[@Rubyllim]

the stylistic difference, go to the seasonal anime page and you'll know what he's talking about

[@JoeARedHawk275]

I think the “typical style” is like Hibike Euphonium. However, I disagree with this guy. The lens he looks through is very biased and every point he makes is through his own bias. For example, he viewed Kimi no an Wa as generic and not very important in the anime scene. That alone should tell you how biased he is.

[@uneterostardust8233]

14:44 I think this epilepsy inducing anime face montage is a good indicator of what he means by "anime style". Faces and styles that look like copy pastes of each other, with nearly identical hair.

[@kazuonamikiri6556]

You reminded me why I fell in love with anime and why I haven’t watched much new stuff in over a decade. Also the fact that you opened with music from Zetsubou Sensei made my heart smile.

[@PMundi]

Yo wtf digi when did you decide to become the next step in the evolution of video essayish content, this quality is too good it didn't make me feel like I wasted my time watching 0/5

[@Tapemaster21]

I didn't feel the need to turn it up to 2x speed like I've done with almost all of his other videos.

[@proper1420a]

Yep; I just didn't watch it.

[@rockzyk1291]

I mean, you're basically asking the same thing as "Why are there no legendary bands like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin being made anymore?" The answer is simple. The culture surrounding the medium has changed. The big bosses of the industry don't think the same things that were successful in the past can continue being successful. Add that with a with a business landscape that often thrives on producing the same quickly made, cheaply produced, generic garbage that the populace at large enjoys, and viola. One company makes a profit of a garbage show, and then everyone else jumps on board to recreate lightning in a bottle.

[@jjrobledo]

he gives a formula.... get a great artist who is good in a certain style then get a well known accomplished writer then give them a budget.

[@rockzyk1291]

@@jjrobledo Yes but the end goal has changed. A lot of them it's not about making a fantastic show. A lot of the time it's just about churning show after show out to make your money and hoping that one will blow up. Passion projects don't come around very often anymore.

[@SuperGreenSmartie]

rockzyk Not to mention passion projects aren’t always successful. Same with the generic shows, but they’re usually the “safer” low-risk option that reliably turn a decent amount of profit. It’s the inevitable state that most entertainment industries fall into b/c it’s more efficient.

[@caleb_artzs2533]

He gave Pokemon as an example

[@Starlighty16]

rockzyk I know it’s weird commenting on a year old comment but I just wanted to say that’s a great way of putting it sorta like on a different topic video games with Nintendo but Nintendo is trying new things too fast

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

My word, this video looks like it was an editing nightmare. So many "blink and you'll miss it" details in almost every shot, every few seconds. Hats off for all the work that must've gone into it, the visuals really do help drive the points home for any feeb still not paying attention.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Jimmy's Talk Show #1 Woah.

[@ianbowden2524]

Dude, Nick man, gotta say been watching your stuff for years. Really changed how I think. Nice to see you around teh internets

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Thanks, dude.

[@ianbowden2524]

You got me out of my pre-teen shitty mindset that my opinions were truth and all else was lies. I used to hate the way you criticized stuff I liked, but when I realized you were making actual points that had truth to them, I grew up a little. So, yeah thanks.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Ehhh... I was pretty arrogant, myself. I try not to be like I was back then, now focusing on things I appreciate.

[@ProfKisuto]

This is what I love about Trigger so much - they know how to use minimalism to their advantage!

[@pixie_sprite]

Exactly

[@thorscape3879]

Holy crap somebody finally said it. "Anime needs to stop copying itself". I dipped out of anime in general and stayed with modern Ghost in the Shell and going through old OVAs. But Jojo kinda brought me back. It doesn't set out to be a good manga/anime. It wants to be just plain old good.

[@pugnome]

Daniel Owens I've literally devoted myself due to my career choice to literally only exceptional shows and good Visual Novels since I'm a philosphy major and in-between learning why Gilgamesh was a radical dude and why Nietzschea predicted the future and the down fall of modern society, I like to read contemporary works but I have no time to read or watch schlock that doesn't make me think about Morality and shit, luckily a lot of vns tend to go for that angle especially Nasu and Urobuchi novels (which has quite a bit of Greek influence when you learn about Greek influence) then you have works like wonderful Everyday which I had to read several novels in order to fucking understand what in the god damn was going on, Kara no Shoujo with it's societal commentary, science adventure with it's mix of nwo, otakuism, along with the surreal, Saya no Uta which is seeping with Greek influence mixed with lovecraftian horror, and you have weird trippy novels like the one where you choke bitch out with your girl but stop because she farts, which honestly creeped me out and made me laugh, and then theirs shit like Toradora which I hold as the magnum opus of modern day contemporary eastern literature and maybe contemporary as a whole due to how much I adore taiga Aisaka, who literally made me realize I wasnt fucking gay and taught me the true meaning of the perfect women over the perfect man Theirs modern film works like ASV, GItS, and Akira which amazed me with their animation and cinematography, Gundam which amazes me with the charachter dramas and the fucking sick ass robot battles, and fucking tengen toppa with it's over the top commentary on humanity and how we are above god. Oh and I can't forget about fate with it's charachters, morals on ideals, fucking radical fights, cool Charachter designs, and my favorite priest in all of the universe

[@iliveinsideyourhouse1367]

There a lots of unique manga out there though

[@amyquinzel263]

Wow, you must be so fun at parties...

[@victorr.khammoungkhoun8803]

@@pugnome Best Preist is Pucci my man. Also I'd recommend Beserk it has breath taking panels with the complexity of Maurits Cornelis Escher works, while delving into extientialism. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qILEhnioa5qYl6s

[@Bluecho4]

The word that popped into my head during this video was "Incestuous". The anime industry has become fixated on iterating the same tropes, styles, subject matter, and material, over and over again. Regurgitating its content in forms that are both new, and paradoxically the identical to what came before it. Churning out rushed, sloppy, cheap, and unchallenging productions, that draw incestuously upon its own subject matter. In short, the anime industry is becoming inbred. Both fortunately and unfortunately, inbreeding is, over enough consecutive generations, a self-correcting problem. Inbred family lines eventually become incapable of producing viable offspring. But that's poor comfort for the family itself, since that leads to them (in)breeding themselves out of the gene pool entirely. That's what it's like with the anime industry right now. If it wants to get itself out of this rut and avoid a collapse of its own making, new blood needs to be injected into the system. Risks need to be taken. The medium's incestuous practices need to stop.

[@Graavigala85]

"showing your parents anime" no... just no... never

[@MrM9819]

Why not pussy ?

[@Graavigala85]

I dont know if showing pussy to parents would be any better idea

[@Julius064]

My parents think anime and animation in general is stupid. Meanwhile they watch endless amounts of much better shows, like the Hallmark channel, car auctions, or hillbillies making moonshine.

[@renookami4651]

It just depends on what kind of "anime" you show. Animation movies usually are way safer to show and shorter compared to a full season anime. The fact they know there will be 1-2h of their time instread of 4-8h involved (or multiple sessions to finish a serie) really helps too. Well, it's not only about parents and animes but people and series in general, but there's some simple rules to follow that ensure a good experience for eveyone involved: 1) Show something that match their interests instead of focusing on your personal favorite. That helps keeping them interested in the content as a movie. 2) Skim throught the movie/series some days before you intend to show it to be sure you were not just blinded by nostalgia. (It also helps to prepare points 3 and 4) 3) Don't hesitate to recommand something else instead of the movie that was chosen if you spot enough things that would ruin the experience for them. (Unless you intend to troll on purpose before showing something more interesting in hopes to...create some contrast? Maybe? Nah, bad idea!) 4) If you intend to show a series, remember about the rule of 3 episodes. Animes are rarely great from the start, but because the stroy build up one episode after another. If you can only show ONE episode, better show some mid-season that embodies the qualities of the show (with reasonably low spoiler) rather than a really slow start that will not catch their interest. 5) Unless your parent is teacher and you're showing anime to your class; because reasons I suppose....? Well, remember that the goal is not to write a commentary or essay about the show. Just enjoy the moment and let people enjoy the discovery of content aswell. 6) Agree to disagree, even if everyone enjoyed the episode/movie it may not be for the same reasons than you did; and same apply for parts that they don't like. It would be stupid to ruin the whole experience by starting an argument about "Why your favourite character is not that stupid/cringy because there is character devloppment happening after episode 580, so this episode is totally irrevalent on this aspect!!!" since they only seen one episode and don't intend to watch what's left of the series anyway.

[@joseph0098]

john smith well not just old people don't take animation seriously, pretty much a lot of westerners have this mindset that: animation shouldn't be serious because they're just drawing, a serious film should be with real actors, why they need to invent a lot of weird and confusing things to handle serious and realistic topics they shouldn't do that because it can't be taken seriously, and so on and so forth.

[@MinecraftBlackWolf]

I remember showing my mother Violet Evergarden. She saw me as someone who liked mature stories instead of someone who just likes Japanese cartoons. Well played, KyoAni. Made my month.

[@rswan5]

It seems to me that the state of the anime industry today is almost exactly like what caused the great video game crash of 1983: too many studios bringing out too much subpar products.

[@dedede81122]

Top tier editing by Davoo!

[@thatsniceman5081]

Syy?

[@zachmontminy]

DededePizzaRon no

[@StudioErsatz]

Davoo, you've done it. You've at once created something that feels like it's from the "good old days" of youtube, and yet also feels completely fresh and unique. You've found a way to incorporate Digi's somewhat psychedelic aesthetic without dipping too deep into self-indulgence. This is a masterpiece.

[@cameronstone4495]

It's okay, but it's not some amazing feat of editing. Also when is this mythical "good old days of youtube" suppose to be?

[@merienda4958]

I don't think complaining about japan needing a good budget is a masterpiece. I don't know why it seems like he's trying to talk towards japanese animators when they probably won't even watch the video.

[@cameronstone4495]

I know right I've never gotten why anime youtubers do this

[@ma1ist]

lmao. dude the good old youtube days was shit like "Stunts gone wrong!" or other viral trending shit that was recorded in the spur of the moment, vertically, and on a fucking flip phone. KZbin content today is leagues better than the shit from a decade ago. It's just harder to find and you know never know who is copying who.

[@SmartAlec1]

"Good old days of KZbin" Hell no. This is serious in tone, emphasizes editting, incredibly critical of even small things, and a cynical tone. Like this video or not, that is the antithesis of old KZbin.

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Admit it. Davoo is the real star of the show.

[@machomuu]

He really is, this is easily the best editing I've seen from him so far. I was absolutely blown away by his work here, he deserves a hell of a lot more recognition than he gets.

[@MaxDOutEX]

I just wish Davoo could make his own videos again. Nothing against Digi, but he always has an interesting thought process, and I would love to see how his video game videos would be with the current level of editing he has achieved. Even if its short form concise content.

[@JCOdrjones]

Hemang Chauhan Davoo went from a D grade editor to a C grade. Don't think he's hot shit yet.

[@ダイアナの嫁]

Digi usually makes better points than this, I think it's because this is more like something he thought had to be said rather than a new idea he had. He still did a great job in terms of writing though, but davoo is just another level.

[@antediluvianspy5371]

But Davoo fucked up big time by not editing out the 5 times Digi says "klout"

[@niclored]

The economy is shit We feel like shit We watch shit We dont give a shit and solve the economy because we feel powerless The economy is shit (Repeat in infinite loop)

[@lejohnavery4556]

We're stuck in a time loop. Not surprising actually

[@PrinceKingEmperor]

>Tfw the "snob is digibro from the future" theory turns out to be true. WEW

[@izellets7361]

That's because Digibro is enteringthe "anime is garbage" phase according to Gigguk's terminology. He hasn't realized yet that Kyoni is a cancer though.

[@PrinceKingEmperor]

Izelle Ts interesting, though following anything from gigguk's viewpoints makes you lose 5 points.

[@Zoran54321]

Following Digibro's viewpoints also makes you lose 5 points

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Izelle Ts kyoani went downhill after they made season 2 of haruhi, they told kadokawa to shove it, clannad, lucky star, k-on and haruhi was how kyoani got famous then they made free!

[@Smikay]

holy shit do I agree with the comments here, this editing is brilliant

[@DaDualityofMan]

21:01 OBJECTION! CalebCity is the funniest guy on KZbin currently.

[@PokeBlox21]

Agreed

[@joshuanishanthchristian5217]

I know, that threw me off lol

[@zsurvivalist7996]

Taste is subjective and we're all assholes, I prefer gigguks way we enjoy what we like even if it's fucking trash. But remember to highlight what really moves you .

[@jazzjabulani291]

Ong

[@moahammad1mohammad]

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY!! CREATED BY THE N.H.K!! TO KEEP PEOPLE HIKKIKOMORI FOREVER!!

[@BusterXlistaBOTRA]

fun book

[@Bruh-oz3fj]

Great anime.

[@EricTalwin]

One of the best.

[@Stalaktik]

Nihon Hikkikomori Kyoukai

[@dreijones2280]

I think none of the people who disagreed actually understood the point of the video and only heard modern anime ..... bad...... and went to the comments to cry about it. He didn't talk about how ALL modern anime sucks he said that the modern anime industry is so saturated that with every season churning out series after series you'd have to dig through 50 or so anime to find really good anime. I don't get how you guys missed this?? Since you know he mentioned actually liking Tsuki ga kirei and devilman crybaby whixh are you know, MODERN ANIME. honestly try and actually watch and understand the video before rushing to the comments to complain about how "elitist" he is for complaing about your favorite moe blob isekai light novel adaptation

[@Maskkulin]

thanks

[@ReitheOffbeatOtaku]

Thank you. You get an upvote for actually getting the point.

[@doomslayer1252]

This.

[@GeteMachine]

Thats the problem when people just generalize or dumb down the focus of the commentary by dismissing everything as subjective to the viewer and what they like needs to be defended as if liking mediocrity makes what it is compared to less true of itself being mediocre. Hype and instant gratification from something trendy and new is all most people need just to keep their easily swayed attention span. Most also do not understand the industry enough let alone the series they like, to understand how to look at something objectively.

[@victoriauwandu3858]

Drei Jones Completely agree with your statement

[@myopinionsarefacts]

I was questioning who this weeb I was subscribed to was for like 5 minutes before I played the video

[@ded4lyfe1]

IKR?

[@tdfern1]

my opinions are facts yeah the name change threw me off me a bit before clicked on it. But realized its Digibro because he is Gonzo News.

[@50mt]

Just passing by and saying that Citrus was an okay anime, at least for the first romance anime I ever watched. Then again I'm still in the early-otaku hype period in which I seem to enjoy everything, soo...

[@thatsniceman5081]

50MT Revolutionary buddy, watch toradora. Watch his and her circumstances if you're into older stuff. Watch ore monogatari. Citrus was awful.

[@50mt]

What was so awful about it? I found it a slight bit entertaining and I _am_ one of those people who finishes an anime no matter what, otherwise I wouldn't have made it through Kill la Kill or JoJo: Stardust Crusaders, just saying. Anyways, yeah, I'll look them up as soon as possible. But I'd like your opinions on CItrus and so, newborn Otaku here.

[@dopaminecloud]

My guess is simply that the bulk of anime fans don't actually give a SHIT about anime. They like idol culture, or mecha, or shonen, or romcom. They don't care for anime itself. At most unique looking stuff will get called out for looking unique. The rest don't matter. It doesn't matter how fancy you make your cuts, directing, style and (of course) animation. People are almost exclusively looking for characters and story. So why bother? Shits expensive.

[@discountpicasso3177]

because of artistic integrity?

[@dopaminecloud]

Yes. Passion and integrity still produces quality. Look at Redline.

[@javelinmaster2]

Sadly Redline was partially the cause of Madhouse's fall. Kyoto animation and Trigger however seem to care A LOT about their works.

[@dopaminecloud]

Would you say they care to the point of playing it very safe a lot of the time? I doubt things such as nichijou and the like will be returning short of someone feeling like taking risks. At least their stuff is consistently polished. Trigger does some more out of line stuff (seemingly cramp budget for those though which might be why they can do so in the first place) but I doubt they will ever leave Gainax's shadow like this.

[@paranidherc]

Because anime like Fate/Stay live and die by their retarded story, yet great animation. And then there are some like Re:Zero or Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry or No Game No Life, that are vastly improved by the artstyle. So it might not be the most important part, but it definately is a factor.

[@TheRealArtDoctor]

I can't stand 95% of anime, I cringe so hard every time that I have to go for a walk so I don't lose any brain cells

[@moresoduh]

First Digibro video in a while that features meticulous visual editing, relevant sound direction, a throrough yet concise script, and worthwhile subject matter. These videos are why I'm subscribed, and why I patiently sit through everything else on this channel. These are the videos I look at as reference points when planning/writing my own video essays. The passion for the medium is palpable in its presentation and delivery, the visual direction jerks around enough to stay flashy and engaging but also conveys relevant visual cues as often as possible to complement the dialogue. How many anime analysis videos can you walk away from and genuinely say "I remember the main points/arguments presented; they are this, this, and this". Rare. Not often. This is all just a complicated and verbose way of expressing: It's good video, ya dun did a good--it makes--it's just good. Keep gooding at it, please.

[@contrabardus]

We haven't "accepted" mediocrity anymore than we ever have. Most anime has always been mediocre. Most of anything is mediocre. Mediocre is literally a synonym of Average. The problem is rose colored glasses causing people to remember things as better than they were because the mediocre stuff becomes forgotten, and we only remember the best. It seems like Anime used to be better because we only watch the top tier shows from those eras, and tend to look at them in ten year blocks rather than year to year or season to season as we do with more current shows. There didn't used to be more good anime, the lesser anime just became weeded out with time. I've been watching anime since the 70s, and it's not worse now than it was at any point between then and now.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

contrabardus This is how i see things too. You only remember a timeframe of anime being "amazing" because nobody talks about the shit shows of the 80's in 2018 BECAUSE they were shit. Bad stuff made in the modern era only gets attention because people meme it up to the point where you find out about it anyway. 10-20 years from now, assuming the industry is still around, no one's gonna know what Eromanga sensei is (to pull a random title off the top of my head that i hear many call bad) because no one will be talking about it. Aside from making fun of it probably.

[@nonsensicalabyss]

I agree so much with this. Time can do so much to shape our views on things.

[@KironVB]

I strongly disagree, it's just obvious to anybody with eyes there was a far higher quality output

[@Zenthik]

Absolutely not. There wasn't nearly as much anime produced from the '70s - '90s, much less half of the trash there was today, because doing it analog style with cels was much more expensive. Digital art has casualized the medium & made every two-bit production company clutter up the entire industry with trash LN adaptations that wouldn't have made it a minute in the business environment of the '80s.

[@apollo9288]

Pretty much. People only look at the good stuff from then, than seeing every single shit that came out. Just like how people say video games were only good from pre 2010 or born in the wrong generation kids.

[@jorgecrespo2343]

This vid was seriously fucking good. I am always blown away with your knowledge about the medium and the clips you find that describe your point perfectly but this one really went right to the heart.

[@christopherbravo1813]

honestly, it's definitely not just the anime industry. it's entertainment as a whole. people have crap shoved into their mouths 24/7 and then turn around and call it GOOD. for crying out loud, the top-rated MMORPG is only halfway decent at best! as an aspiring writer, this lack of quality and acceptance of that lack of quality sickens me to the core of my being. though if there is any silver lining to all of this, it's that it has inspired me to do *better.* now if I could only muster up enough motivation to actually write something down....

[@nuclearpancake3683]

*cough cough* avatar 2009 *cough cough*

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@nuclearpancake3683 could have been so much better

[@somerandomfatguy.3384]

Bro IDK about games but can any one freaken A tell me why All the caracters in anime looks like they are underage even adults looks like they are underage only distinguish able by the fact that they grow beard. Also I know anime proportion are Unrealisitc compare reallife but where should we draw the line guys?

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@somerandomfatguy.3384 wanna know something else? practically none of the *Japanese* cartoon characters actually look Japanese.

[@lana-ana-ana]

that last sentence is so real

[@FreakGerm]

"I'm trapped at the cross-section of two mediums which have openly accepted mediocrity as the way forward for creativity--anime and youtube" "Shut up!" *They hated Digibro because he told them the truth*

[@paranidherc]

nah, it's because he sounds like a stuck up bitch and because his videos are getting shoved into everybody's feed, as soon as they watch one anime video. Since there is no way to put a channel on ignore, or directly ignore / block a video in half the youtube menus it shows up in, people are going to shit on him, as i do.

[@julianmars8968]

paranidherc that’s not exactly his fault that’s KZbin’s fault

[@SomethingLog]

@@paranidherc there is literally an option to stop seeing a channel in your recommended feed. Or maybe having the knowledge that the recommended feed doesn't give you what you want you can just not look at it like the big brain boi you are

[@paranidherc]

@@SomethingLog Tried every option i found, yet i still get him almost every day in the fucking feed. So either reveal that secret, elusive option, or shut the fuck up.

[@Anon3433]

@@paranidherc It's called the 'Not Interested' Button

[@AR0ACE]

“If we can turn the tide...” *shows tide pod* welcome to 2018 people

[@user-tg7kv9df4c]

Imo anime has gone quantity over quality.

[@Grudgebearer47]

So basically it's Hollywood now

[@AstralSaint393]

Ya don’t say

[@MustacheDLuffy]

That way anime won’t ever end :D (Japanese weaboos and their fantasies)

[@davidvance623]

“If the *tide* can be *turned*” (Shows a rotating tide pod) This humor is exorbitantly underrated

[@britneypatek1905]

8:24 "There is no fucking reason to get into anime for the money. If you treat anime like a business you are missing the fucking point." So I'm not well versed in economics and I've only taken one class that talks about business, but from what I have learned this quote makes absolutely no sense. The basic idea of business is to provide a service or product to satisfy a want and need and in exchange they will receive value for it. The animations you praised in this video( Ghost in the Shell, Akira, and several of the Studio Ghibli movies) are products of a business and would not exist without a business. I know that your point is to say that storytelling and art should be the focus of making the product, not the money but I have to disagree. If you want to continue to make content at all you have to consider how you are going to be self-sustaining business. You WILL have to find a target market and if that market is anime fans and the Japanese then you have to make a product that they will want. Also while people seem to portray the business part of animation as assholes who only care about making money, sometimes that side of the business can be the reason the product turns out so well. Sometimes there needs to be an executive that looks an a creative idea and say, "Um, yeah, that's not going to work because that would alienate our audience." Like maybe Jar Jar Binks wouldn't have existed if George Lucas didn't take complete creative control over the Star Wars prequels? However, risk-taking is also an important part of business as well because it stimulates the economy, if it is done so successfully and ethically. I think it would be great if Japanese animation could create more products that reach out to more than that particular primary market because it would help to end the stigma against the art form in western countries. However, to say that creativity should be the only focus is a very narrow way to view this matter especially when the people creating, producing, distributing, and translating Japanese animated content sort of depend on money to take care of themselves and their families. I'd say it's good to push for change and voice your opinion. You are the consumer after all, but don't create unrealistic expectations for the medium you care about. The "good old days" are not going to come back and the animation industry in Japan is going to change no matter what. You don't have to agree with those changes, but if you put yourself in a box where you disregard the passion being put into today's work because it doesn't satisfy your very specific needs then you're really only hurting yourself. You'll be so closed minded about what is "good" that you'll fail to see the message, care, and same amount of passion in the movies you love. You could miss something that makes you self-evaluate, get inspired, and be able to think about something in a completely new light. So this was a long message that will definitely be buried at the end of the comments. But if for whatever reason you read this Digibro, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but I just wanted to put my two cents in about your views about business in relation to Japanese Animation. Have a great day and I hope life is going good for you! :)

[@almiraj-x]

When someone says "it's not about the money", what they actually mean is "it's not about maximising profit to the significant detriment of quality". Having money sent your way means people value your work/product and want to support/obtain it, that's the point. What I think was meant is that no one entered the anime industry to become rich, so focusing on quality should be the obvious choice for studios. Opportunity cost, risk, asymmetry of information and marketing make it so that distribution of value (meaning: the amount of money transacted in the market) isn't necessarily or even closely equivalent with quality. This also results in the producers realising that they aren't getting justly and proportionately rewarded for the amount of effort and care they put into their work, demotivating them and incentivizing a profit-oriented attitude. This kills the entertainment industry, where the product is hard to judge to begin with. Refer to the video-game scene for a case study.

[@britneypatek1905]

Thank you for replying! I didn't consider how the lack of marketing or reception from a studio could affect the mentality of what will be produced. It was not my intention to straw man one of the arguments he made and if I did I apologize for that. With your last sentence, do you mean to look to a certain part of the video or to find one of his other videos that talks about the video-game scene? I wasn't sure what you meant by that.

[@rawrgna23]

Britney Patek if you want some data i suggest to go to the Association of Japanese Animations.

[@Salabar_]

Maybe it's more like a message to new animation studios who expect to enter the market and become rich instantly. They won't, because there is not much market to begin with. Kind of like 10 years ago every MMORPG tried to become a "World of Warcraft" killer by doing the same thing as WoW, but with lower budget. Even though that budget would be better spent on a hotdog cart.

[@severteran9897]

Couldn't of had said it any better. This right here.

[@ConvincingPeople]

I have some points of agreement and disagreement here. On the one hand, I completely agree that anime should be looking outside of the "typical anime fan" demographic as such to grow and thrive, and that the way that business tends to be done in Japan does far too little to actually benefit the artists who produce these works, fostering poor working conditions and a constant grind to stay afloat. But contrary to your view, I think that the splintering of older studios into smaller startups is part of a process towards that end, akin to what happened with Gainax in the late '80s, with these small new studios cooperating with other small new studios made up of people who would previously have been tied down by larger top-down studio projects to create new shows and films which are defined by the unique voices of those animators. But it takes time for any studio to establish itself, and the first steps are often shaky. Give it some time. I think we're on the cusp of something amazing. I would also like to point out that TV anime in the '80s was about as much of a crowded clusterfuck as streaming anime is now. While you definitely had greats like Dezaki and Tomino in the field making fantastic television work, there was also plenty of chaff. Something like one hundred new shows débuted in 1984. Just think about that.

[@lauravturner]

I almost missed this video because I didn't recognise the name. Please don't confuse me, Digi. I don't want to lose you.

[@abcdefghilihgfedcba]

If you don’t know that he goes by otaku gonzo journalist… where the fuck have you been?

[@RentsRants]

I had no idea either, I was like "Who the fuck is this nigga that sounds like Digibro? What is this? This is way too good to be Digib- Oh shit it is him..." I've been subbed to him for a really long time but I ain't remembering all his nicknames n shit like he's P. Diddy.

[@strubberyg7451]

I was confused as well. This video appeared in my phone notification, "who is this Otaku Gonzo Journali- oh, it's Digibro! Changing his name, I get the reference"...

[@sirrealgaming6913]

I almost saw this Video because i didn't recognize the name I just don't care for Digi's opinions on anime for the most part though i do agree that Zombie CG school needs to burn

[@skeleton_tea]

I do love myself an overpowered protagonist But holy shish these protagonists have the emotional range of the flavor of egg whites without seasoning.

[@horrorjakei8895]

That is an oddly specific description to use but honestly, it's pretty much accurate

[@Wilburgur]

dude, i feel u, but studios will always release the same garbage again and again because it's "safe" we're always gonna be waiting for something genuine because every platform as a whole neglects what's genuine in favor of what's trending (or was) THAT'S LIFE! wanna seppuku with me fam??

[@evilpanties8899]

wowee seppuku sounds like a great option after reading comments on this video

[@Arguing.With.Idiots.]

Watch mob psycho 100. One of my top animation.

[@thatoneblackgod6272]

Dude don't compare mob and Pom animations to anything this era all animation studios are overhyped (especially shaft look what they did to fate) the only exceptional animations these last few years are fate ubw, opm and mob psycho

[@KironVB]

Fate is the most overrated franchise in anime though lets be real. The writing of the fate franchise is terrible. Like much of anime, people hype fate on it's potential, never it's execution. I think we could all see how Fate could be SO much better than it is. (I say this unironically as someone who owns too many Fate Figmas)

[@Melodyofthesea78]

I've always fallen asleep on the Fate series.....it wasn't my thing. I found it boring but it is beautifully animated (at least what I've seen)

[@gelugon2105]

19:50 Oh god. The animations have deterioated in quality to the point that the animators slide sprites up and down to simulate walking. HIDEOUSLY lazy.

[@zokya6822]

...not really a recent thing...

[@gelugon2105]

I know, I know! I see this is as a relapse.

[@kirareilly3699]

Comedies are usually supposed to look cheap as a means of ramping up the comedic effect. Not saying thats the case here necessarily though..

[@paranidherc]

Less about laziness, more about resources. You pay for what you get. If somebody can dump millions in like Fate/Stay, then obviously they are going to get top-notch animation. If its a small project, then it just as obviously won't be that great.

[@TallicaMan1986]

nintendoluigi Redline is really cool.

[@JaxBlade]

I almost unsubbed till I saw the thumbnail hahahaha

[@hairyballs089]

Hi jaxblade, how are your gains?

[@hairyballs089]

just making polite conversation

[@blakesimmons5130]

Detective X your fragile sense of sexuality is the only gay thing here. Grow up.

[@8bitmagic]

Detective X why is it gay? Because you find a man's gains inherently attractive?

[@gellybean3885]

8bitmagic, no because it's a meme.

[@ValenteRAPiaui]

Oh man the Berserk being over part stung

[@gm112]

Someone finally said it. Thought I was just a cynic. Also, love the production on this video. Dat a e s t h e t i c

[@amirbutcher2147]

Nah, I don't even consider myself a cynic, but I do recognize that we happen to stray down bad paths. I just think we can recover.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I totally understand why my elementary school teacher gave me a hard time when I handed in a half-assed story that my parents said they loved. These _are_ the end times.

[@kz_kanmuru4269]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache Stfu Tryhard.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

NOCTO lol you’re just salty he’s more popular than you I mean like really

[@SabirKhan-wu6je]

Satan's left nut so your is the right nut.

[@williampalkow5108]

Do you make it a habit of going all over KZbin and leaving a comment?

[@Person1................68]

Really fucking pointless.

[@Excabluir]

This is quality editing for a type of video that could have easily been lazily made and profited off of. ...I guess that's kind of the point.

[@kinremnant4616]

Violet Evergarden was pretty amazing. It had great art and the english dub was pretty good. Can't say that often. I look forward to a season 2 but, I could see why it won't.

[@oscribe2772]

Agreed. I'm not a nostalgic person and - tho - i LOVED my 80's anime for sure... It's true that modern animation nowadays sucks... espacially cause it's lazy writing and poor story and plot. Animation is not all for me. An anime could be great with utmost bad animation but with a GREAT story. Violet Evergarden has both : great animation - in classic big-eyes anime art style ok - and good story. Why complaining about his melodramatic tone ? It's just NOT the taste of everyone, that's all... It's a great anime.

[@allenqueen]

I don't think mediocrity is anything new in any medium. There will always be a lot of mediocre stuff and only a few of the good👌 stuff. You remember Akira and Ghost in the Shell, because they too were the good stuff among the mediocre stuff from that time.

[@Jotari]

That's true, but I think the difference now is that there's tonnes more hastily made mediocre shows. To pull numbers out of my ass, say 1 in every 6 shows were genuinely fantastic in the 80s. Now it's 1 in every 60. Maybe the good shows aren't fewer, but they are further between. At least, that's one possibility.

[@jesuszamora6949]

@@Jotari Problem is that in the 80s, we didn't get as much anime here in the west. Now we practically get everything that comes out of Japan.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

It's not new some of the classic ova's from the 80's suck and look good but yeah

[@piglarrydogonoviii3094]

I very rarely comment but I have to say that was DOPE editing. I genuinely enjoyed the entire video and found myself enthralled by the editing and agree with everything you said about the anime industry. I hope to see more videos of this quality! 10/10 from me!

[@s4s4lasselive]

I for one welcome GonzoBro

[@user-pk3eo6pq6m]

11:09 this part aged so god damn badly man. it hurts and is funny at the same time honestly

[@comprehendsirlgarbagedispo1495]

Digital effects are a quick way to trick people into thinking animation looks better than it is (not that they can’t be used right). People wouldn’t even be questioning that the aggregate quality of 80’s and 90’s anime is higher than it is today if it weren’t for that stupid glare filter which is plastered on every single anime these days.

[@pickles3361]

can you elaborate on this, how does this glare filter actually change things? Do you have any examples (genuinely interested)

[@comprehendsirlgarbagedispo1495]

George Stevens I don’t have a very good understanding of it myself. But if you watch enough shows, it begins to look like they’re using a specific preset to make it look like the light is coming from a consistent source. Instead of animating the light themselves, it looks almost inorganic. And it makes the characters look weirdly like plastic. That may just be the style, and I might be talking out of my ass here (I probably am). But still the fact that a lot of shows seem stylistically consistent with another is a problem, even if it’s only in one aspect.

[@frawding9438]

Not Digibro anymore, huh?

[@tdfern1]

frawding Well he is Otaku Gonzo Journalist. Makes sense he chang his name now.

[@LimeyLassen]

Still Digibrony tho ( ◑౪◑ )

[@brucebanana4486]

frawding he change the name because of the controversy on twitter last Tuesday

[@frawding9438]

he said this on twitter tho: "Rebranding the main channel! (This has nothing to do with twitter drama btw, and everything to do with my big big big big big plans for upcoming shows on the channel!"

[@brucebanana4486]

frawding I know, I follow him on twitter but I don't belive him

[@emanx222]

Wow......first of all, INSTANT SUB!!!!! watching this video hit me right in the feels, for the last couple of months I’ve been watching anime from the 90s and been floored constantly by how amazing the quality of even the cheapest shows look compared to the cookie cutter nonsense we get on average now. Sure there are some incredible gems but for every gem there are 100s of duds coming out by the bucket load. The saddest thing is that the saturation of the anime market only hurts it as far as I’m concerned, with animators getting close to peanuts for their work, it’s no wonder so much shit gets shoved out, you can’t expect animators to go all out and barely have enough to survive.

[@boa9557]

90 animes are overatted

[@youngcitybandit]

@@boa9557 no they werent lmfao but its the point where the decline started.

[@maxis2k]

Your premise seems to be all over the place. At one time, you're saying anime has gotten lazy compared to the past. In some ways it has, but you're cherry picking a handful of top tier productions from three decades ago and comparing it to stuff made for the mass market today. There were also plenty of shows made just for mass consumption at the same time stuff like Ghost in the Shell and Akira were being made. And today, there's still high budget, high quality content being made. You should compare things that are on the same level. But also, making a show for the mass market doesn't make it bad. Consistently, you use examples of (mostly movies) that at their time were huge risks and weren't mainstream. They BECAME mainstream because people saw them as ground breaking. Then you compare these things to shows made for mass appeal. You also don't mention shows that were made for mass appeal, but stood out on their own. Where's the mention of stuff like CardCaptor Sakura, Working, Haruhi, etc? These shows weren't following the generic trends of all the other shows. They SET the trends which others copied. And that's really the point. In any decade, in any medium, there are a handful of shows/movies that set the trends and then most others just imitate them. KyoAni shows keep feeling generic because they keep using the formula Haruhi/Clannad/K-On pioneered. A1 shows keep feeling like generic slice of life because they keep making Working clones with characters not as good as Working. And Gainax...well, the less we talk about them the better. My point with all this is that anime didn't really become generic. It always had the same ratio of generic content to ground breaking content. There were plenty of generic, forgettable things airing at the same time as Ghost in the Shell or Akira. That's why you're not mentioning them. They're forgettable. Just like there's a ton of forgettable things today. The only thing that changed between 1987 and 2019 is there's 7x more shows being made per year than in 1988. And we have access to almost all the stuff now, unlike in the 1980s when we were lucky to find a handful of shows from a friend. So it seems like there's so much more bad out there now. But the ratio is still pretty much 90% bad, 9% good and 1% ground breaking. Now, there is a case to be made that modern anime is being rushed. I agree with your points there. But I'm about to say something that will probably cause huge backlash. Animation is not the most important component in making a TV show/movie. Is it good if a show/movie gets good animation? Hell yeah it is. But not every show/movie gets a Ghibli level budget. Take a look at something like GTO or Slayers or You're Under Arrest or Rurouni Kenshin. These shows didn't get very high budgets or 2+ years of production like a Ghibli film. So they had to put the money into key scenes. Is it a shame? Yeah, it is. Would they be even better if they had top tier, polished animation? Yeah, they would. But even with dips in animation quality, I would argue they're still some of the best shows out there. Because they still had great characters, great layout, great stories and etc. Knowing they didn't have the budget, the production team put more focus into other areas like storyboards, writing and characters. And it worked. These shows stood out. Animation is still a medium of telling a story, first and foremost. And just like you can go back and watch an old 1960s TV show with corny sets and non existent budgets (like Star Trek) and still appreciate it, you can do the same for anime that aren't KyoAni level godly in animation. In fact, as amazing as KyoAni is at animation, I'd still rather watch other shows. Because KyoAni shows tend to be very weak on pacing and character development. I guess what I'm trying to say is, good characters and writing can save a show with bad animation. But good animation can't save a show with bad characters and writing. And comparing the handful of shows/movies that got everything and using that as a standard to say everything below that is bad means you're always going to be disappointed. As well as you seemingly thinking that anything cute = cheap, even when you say you like the characters and premise. I also agree with you that anime needs to consolidate and diversify. It needs to expand to a worldwide market rather than just staying niche in Japan (hopefully without falling for the worldwide trends killing western media currently). But that aside, I don't agree that anime is failing because its copying itself. If anything, looking inward is something they should do more of. But looking beyond the tropes. What made good shows of the past stand out was original ideas, original storyboarding and original characters. Someone like Ayanami Rei from Eva wasn't anything revolutionary from a visual design standpoint. She was one of a million blue haired dry characters which anime had been doing decades before and has been doing decades since. What made her stand out was everything besides her visual design. How she developed in personality, the still uncopyable storyboarding direction of Anno, the voice of Hayashibara Megumi. All these things came together to make a solid character, despite her base design being so generic it was a trope even in 1995. And modern shows do the same thing. Characters become popular despite copying designs of the past. For F-ing sake, we literally have a character who is a clone of Lum and Dita. But she's popular, so clearly people don't mind. What matters more is putting those characters into a show which has original direction and story. And overall, that's what anime needs to improve. Storyboarding, writing and character development. What seems to be happening in the industry right now is that a lot of the old guard is retiring. And the old guard, your Miyazaki's, Mamoru's and Junichi's, knew that story came first. When Miyazaki made a film, he wrote the script and did all the storyboards first. He didn't start by drawing cute girls and then writing a story around his OC waifu. Now, there are still some people in the industry who seem to have this mindset. What we need to see in my opinion is more producers/directors going back to the old mindset of finding a solid story, then putting cute girls and cool fight scenes in it. Not adapting light novels/manga which have that one cool fight scene or that one cute girl everyone likes. Or in the case of Netflix, just picking whatever concepts have the most cussing, gore and sex in it to appeal to the adult swim kids (another niche market).

[@juan95194]

"There were also plenty of shows made just for mass consumption at the same time stuff like Ghost in the Shell and Akira were being made. And today, there's still high budget, high quality content being made. You should compare things that are on the same level." He did compare those two to Koe no Katachi and how, despite the amount of care that was put into that movie, it will not be remembered and will not revolutionize anything such as GitS or Akira did. "Consistently, you use examples of (mostly movies) that at their time were huge risks and weren't mainstream. They BECAME mainstream because people saw them as ground breaking." (This was also relevant to last point) Yeah... its kind of impossible to be known when you don't exist... But without that in mind his complaint is that in this moment there are 60 shows that are basically the same thing (those montages in the video of the same shots and expressions are the proof) and NO ONE is talking risks (aside from Gen Urobuchi but he is not even making anime per-say) unlike the past were regardless of anything, they were doing new things and giving it there all to make something memorable (and they achieve it). Regardless of how many shitty anime there were in the past, at least you saw many unique ideas and concepts and movies that were coming out that took risks, today... not really (I still like many shows of today if you were questioning that) "Animation is not the most important component in making a TV show/movie." Actually most people will agree with you... I don't really agree. While I like some conversations from Bunny Girl Senpai last season, I forgot about them already because the show was so boringly presented while a counterpart such as the Monogatari Series I remembered complete dialogues and moments just because of animation (a huge component on why do I love the series [and Shaft's shows in general] is because the visual component). Something with no interesting direction or animation is completely boring to me and quality written stuff with that will not be something that I care about by the next month. But that's just completely on me. "If anything, looking inward is something they should do more of. But looking beyond the tropes." What you are saying is: "look inside you, you need to look beyond yourself"... Yeah, anime needs to look beyond anime and its tropes to get more inspiration and to push itself forward (that's what Digi is saying, that's what Anno is saying). "When Miyazaki made a film, he wrote the script and did all the storyboards first." nope, Miyazaki drew all of the storyboards first and (only after he finished that, he) then added the script (obviously there was sort of a narrative behind the storyboards he drew but... he cared for the presentation and flow before caring for the story).

[@dadrumma8608]

Thanks for the fucking novel guys.

[@subbinbacktoallsubbs5272]

Give me the short version

[@amirbutcher2147]

Da Drumma you have the best comment in this whole chain.

[@dragichav2810]

I guess I'll have something to read in the toilet. Oh I better hurry I shouldn't have eaten the eggs with that strange taste.😑🍳🥚🚾

[@danielquinlan2457]

If nothing else, you've convinced me I need to watch more 80's OVAs (as if I wasn't already planning to...).

[@Pedro.Soares]

Another medium where this has also become very prevalent is AAA videogames. Now creativity is exclusive to indies and small companies

[@JasonLuthor]

So this is a "Get off my Lawn" video.

[@khizarch4910]

Looking back on this, I see that no Animator actually listened...

[@Eric1738-7]

Well I didn't even notice how old this was

[@JillValentine2013]

Well, animators just animate, they don't create the overall product.

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

If there is something I agree with in this video... It would have to be the mass amount of people that follow trending topics without much to say.. Which is why my favorite anitubers are all people who don't follow trending topics and take time and effort into their video's researching every video.... The worse person imo is Mothers Basement.

[@asteorom]

Agreed ! There is an incredible amount of poor anime youtubers who don't have a clue what a legitimate analysis is like and trick people into thinking their content is smart through complex vocabulary and lush editing, even though what they are actually saying is mostly either obvious or ludicrous overthinking.

[@_M_4]

MB embodies assembly line KZbin content. Idk how most people don't get tired of that shit. He's a decent writer, but goddamn are his videos ever stretched out to be 10+ min long.

[@incarceratedGenetici]

I subscribe to MB and watch like 1/10 of his videos, mostly because he's a decent writer and occasionally says something interesting. But most of his content is boring as shit.

[@_M_4]

NihilisticLoner As a person? Cuz he's a blatant sellout. Shits on SAO for a living & then proceeds to promote the LNs on bookwalker. No integrety whatsoever. And that Naruto Online shit smh. As a content creator? He makes the most by-the-numbers, assembly line, algorhythm based, pandering content on AniTube. Usually basic shit everybody could have come up with. He still occasionally makes good content & his writing is decent overall, but he lost my trust in his regular content. And you're the guy from MAL with the Hachiman profile pic, right? I recognize that name.

[@_M_4]

NihilisticLoner Well, ok, I was exaggerating a bit. In terms of video essay/analytical content tho? Name me one video of recent times that was actually good (interesting points, rewatchable). Yes, he wants to earn money. And it seems he can't get enough of it. He has a successful patreon account, yet still feels the need to *constantly* promote shitty products that don't fit his channel (SAO LNs, Naruto Online etc). He has no backbone & it's annoying af to constantly be interrupted by ads + bookwalker promotions (on my phone).

[@eyyze]

Jokes on you, i rewatched Koe no Katachi full 6 times.

[@mayuresh1690]

Yeah don't know what he was rambling about? I watched it 4 times.

[@rej3ktstudios986]

This may sound really dumb and naive, but I think in the next decade Western Animation is gonna step up its game and try to fill this void. With the likes of Netflix's Castlevania and Voltron as well as the continuing success/experimental instances of shows like Steven Universe and Gumball. Granted these are all just a drop in the ocean but I honestly think with the noticeable drop in general anime quality and the fact the western community has acknowledged this is gonna lead to creatives at least trying to emulate or attempt to introduce new pieces of art that combat this. I could be being an idiot here as I'll fully admit I don't have the insider knowledge I'm willing to bet half the people commenting here do, But I thought I'd throw my two cents here.

[@Grudgebearer47]

Castlevania is complete garbage with practically no substance, badly animated fights and no ending

[@laffodile1636]

Sanchez12345 Dude what world do you live in?

[@Grudgebearer47]

Dude have you seen the last fight between Trevor and that blond haired guy? Its low budget and low framerate as fuck.

[@laffodile1636]

Sanchez12345 Yeah i've seen it but that is by no means no budget.

[@VashdaCrash]

Sanchez12345 I though animation was good but with it had no substance and no ending indeed.

[@starfrost6816]

I notice that the quality of anime only really dropped off rapidly after 2014 or so.

[@slightlyoffensivedadjokes]

i have not watched any show past 2014 and enjoyed it besides stuff from trigger and kyoto animation

[@thomasleppard6636]

Watch konosuba

[@nothingreally6680]

We stopped getting consistent masterpieces after Redline. The Eccentric Family and Space Dandy are notable exceptions.

[@mmegidolaonn]

jojo

[@will8091]

hope you didnt miss made in abyss and violet evergarden

[@ddediego3684]

Davoo needs a raise

[@entropysalamander]

Thanks for the sudden reminder that Satoshi Kon's gone forever

[@cameronstone4495]

I guess you could say he's Satoshi Gone...I'm going to hell aren't I.

[@thedrunkenmaster6757]

we unfortunately have accepted mediocrity throughout all sorts of media and art not just anime

[@t4rv0r60]

dude.... if they would have dubbed the crybaby rap scenes, that would have broken the gorgeous flavor of that raps. these raps only work in japanese just as "a hard knock love" only works in english

[@reno2934]

People can watch the sub for that.

[@Huskasin]

The industry is being filled out by people who constantly surround themselves with merchandise and garbage because it makes them feel comfortable. As a direct result; they are morphing the industry into a place that panders squarely to them. They're not interested in telling an interesting, thought provoking story with unique and striking visuals; they're interested in their masturbatory obsession with a thing or concept.

[@cameronstone4495]

The people making anime are making the things they want to see and not what some jag-off a whole ocean away want's! What the hell is wrong with these people!

[@EnzoDraws]

Well, if we didn't put up with mediocrity, we wouldn't support a huge chunk of Digi's content hoping for the great stuff here and there like this video.

[@LimeyLassen]

Filler only counts when it's all you do.

[@genesisbustamante-durian]

Define support.

[@EnzoDraws]

genesis bustamante to support as in to watch Digi's nonconsequential blogs about grilled chicken and pull back our mean comments because we understand it's all part of his drug-fueled human content making machine project, or sometimes part of his experimenting for the sake of experimenting even if that week's experiment's resulting video is trash. To watch and keep watching. Some people even patreon, share, like, etcetera. This video was fucking amazing so I guess it's worth it.

[@SoShiBias]

Holyshit Davoo, great job.

[@sallylee4924]

Kizumonogatari is based on a light novel series. Just sayin'.

[@t-universegamer7609]

@prickly pear Really? *That* threw you off? Its still a great show nonetheless, not like I can change your opinion, tho.