Digimon TCG - Next BAN LIST PREDICTIONS (January 2025)

[@AVAULT]

I'm also curios to see what cards you think should come off the list as well. If there is none, it would be cool to know why too! 1 more rule though, you're not allowed to mention BT7 Jetsilphymon LOL

[@SteFFXIII]

I totally agree. The game needs to change. We've reached a point where everything, that's not completely busted, is not worthy of being played competitively. It's just a battle of broken mechanics right now.

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

totally. And i hate the response "just dont play competitive then" that to me is a sign the game is goign in an unhealthy direction. MY friend played 4 mirage decks back to back at Nats. How the f is that a healthy format

[@daveforce4482]

Mirage is cancer; but most other decks are fine

[@shina4229]

I would 100% be ok with Magnamon X if not for the new Aqua digimons that stop redirects. At that point, the only out to the card is an ACE, and if they blinding ray, there is nothing you can do to stop it. (There is the very niche effect of stopping when digivolving effects, but it's very rare right now). I think some hit to hybrids should be done too, promo Aguni and Ukkomon should be good enough.

[@JohnRoseTCG]

Bro after NA Nats this past weekend I am so excited to be playing fun decks again after grinding to prep lol!

[@redlimes4808]

You want Maganamon X to get limited because its OP, I want Maganamon X to get limited so I can afford to put a copy in my pet Shakkoumon and Silphymon decks. We are not the same. But seriously though, I dont think Bandai is going to do anything on this video, especially before Worlds. We've seen from other card games that Eastern Developers don't think the same about card balance as Western players

[@tacticalsolution3109]

This is a good list 👍. I must say i hate Effekt like Magnamon X Antibody "isn't affected by opponent's Effekts". I thing no card should can protect its self from all Effekts in a game, its not healthy for a TCG.

[@DigiDread]

The Galaxy tamers are truly poor game design and really lack of testing it by Bandai. They simply have to just archetype lock it and problem solved. I know it makes the game more frigid but the fact Galaxy as an archetype isn’t putting out numbers with its own cards is concerning. Mirage definitely needs to go, love All Turns…just not on him lol

[@SafetyDan101]

The issue of a deck not "putting out numbers with its own cards" shows a serious flaw in card design, which has been all too prevalent. Especially for purple.

[@Unionversity-d8j]

Well when the deck hasn’t had a new top end, in how long?

[@latitude990]

@@SafetyDan101 Nah it's just an example of the galaxy engine being WAY too overrated by people that have probably never played the deck. Mirage has carried the deck for too long. Consider the results: 2.0 meta is the first time it has even broken into the top 10 decks (currently ~10th). It only has 10 tops TOTAL since the deck was released in EX5, basically it makes top cut once for every 12 times stock Mirage does. The deck is dead when Mirage goes bye-bye, no reason to hit even more cards from it...

[@lalokx7577]

Hitting Koh & Sayo it doesn't make any sense, is understandable that the galaxy base with the tamer is too as a general base for blue digis, just like dogs base in purple. But hitting the tamer will literally kill a deck (gracenova), what they need to do is doing an errata making the free evo just for night claw/light fang, or a pair ban, in this case with mirage and hexeblau since are the 2 cards that everybody cries on that build. I use that deck and I understand why should by have an errata or a pair ban, but hitting the tamer will destroy a deck.

[@torkplayz5695]

Gallant X from EX 8 is also abusing the galaxy engine, and koh and sayo are def the problem for it. However it would not kill the GraceNova deck as the gracenovamon is more reliant on Sayo & Koh

[@zoodiactime9833]

I hope they listen to content creator , agree with all Mario opinion ♥️

[@latitude990]

Fact of the day: Since EX5 release, for every 1 time Galaxy has made top cut in a large event, stock Mirage has an average of ~12.5 tops. Food for thought

[@SteevT_23]

What we learned from the past is when Bukamon jamming egg went to 1 we seen people cut down their number of eggs to have a higher chance of seeing it. For this reason I think Bowmon needs to go to 0. If the deck isn't running Ukkomon it could just run 2 eggs and have a 50% chance of seeing it first egg hatched.

[@Quartzman]

@@SteevT_23 I think the biggest problem is that the egg doesn't say "once per turn". Even at once per turn it would still be strong, but it wouldn't allow you to do whatever you want and be ignorant of the memory gauge.

[@Quartzman]

Thank you for speaking up about proto form. I think I am the only person in our group that shares the same hot take on proto form being too good. Why build up the x antibody line if you can just skip evolve straight into the good versions and reap the benefits.

[@kish45]

Really hope they don’t hit X-Antibody prototype since I want build Lilithmon X-antibody and the build I am looking at building needs 2. As for bt16 Ukkomon if it got hit I can probably replace three of em with three copies of gospel of the fallen angel in my Lucemon deck that I finally just built 2 weeks ago.

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

yes and without that card Phoenixmon isnt viable anymore

[@justinso8231]

The new imperialdramon has an effect that prevents Loogamon from winning anyways

[@LinkDeHablaHispana]

The thing about the take hits is that i think are a bit missguided. Bowmon to 1 does nothing, as we saw when bukamon got hit mirage started to run just 1 egg that being bukamon, that was something they did until they got a lvl 3 with jamming. Soologa is difficult, without bowmon he isn't as big of a deal. But i think the real problem is the bt16 fenrilooga. Its inheritance makes the memory system worthless and if he wasn't a part of the equation takemi would only clear your field, with no protection afterwards. Seeing as the new fenril with inheritance doesn't have the memory end of turn eff that's my bet

[@chivoanimeaddict]

All options that give free memory need to go(gravity crush, blinding ray, jack raid, etc.).

[@masterkid4878]

I feel at least gravity crush is fine or any of the palmon suspend gain a memory but the other got to go

[@torkplayz5695]

​@masterkid4878 jack raid is a filler slot in most decks that can afford to run it, it's not absurd, blinding ray is only used in magna X, and gravity crush isn't an issue

[@torkplayz5695]

The problem with Hammer Spark was that it was a problem in literally any blue deck similar to Ice wall

[@VirtualVictrola]

If they hit Cerberusmon X, people will just replace it with similar cards like LadyDevimon X. Or I mean like BT-05 BlackWarGrowlmon. It literally has the same effect at the cost of Digi-Burst and 1 less memory. At this point, you should just do the nuclear banlist as a list of cards set to the Poké Rap and just let the comment section take care of the discussion.

[@joshuacitron899]

Right on. Can’t wait. I say hit even more. I don’t think right before unicorncation it would be a bad idea to finally perform some kind of mass exodus ban list. Could radically help the game for the coming year(s).

[@lunao17]

What would get hit from 7 demon lords if you had to choose?

[@luka3796]

Hot take: Mirage burst mode is a problem in that deck. Its the card that gives mirage that huge kill pressure. Without it u can give yourself enough time to stabilize even trough memory tax since mirage doesnt have protection and dies to a gust of wind

[@JRGThanatos]

I don't see the need to hit Davis & Ken anymore. There are too many cards that instantly punish for your opponent "playing by effect". Diaboro/ Medieval Gallant/ Levia. Everything else I generally agree with. I think protoform is ok, it's extremely powerful in certain decks but it just a decent card in the vast majority.

[@baderrmn]

Theoretically speaking you are right but in actual game you are not ,

[@akashiya221]

I think we should address ruin mode or at least kuzuhamon

[@synchroshawn]

Yes sir, bowmon! Love that you also agree with me on that card being the problem with fenrir. So many people at my locals say it kills the deck but I disagree. The deck would still be playable but just not able to constantly otk you.

[@SafetyDan101]

It would force Looga to watch the memory gauge, something that every other deck in the game has to do.

[@LinkDeHablaHispana]

If they limit it to one they would just only play 1 tama lmao, it happened with mirage, will happen with take

[@IamTheManWithNoName]

@@LinkDeHablaHispana that's true. digivolve 1 looga in the back and wait till you're set up lol

[@pepetinoco4812]

I just invested in a Playset of ukkomon for my shinegreymondeck. I'm definitely gonna be gutted if it gets hit cuz it helps out the deck so much

[@moxmoonstone]

Mirage is the Galaxy hit 👍

[@SafetyDan101]

Don't forget that Gallant X can abuse galaxy loop, too.

[@Melgus]

Bukamon was a issue cause you could rush your oponent with 8 ukkomons and 4 bukkas. Soloogar isnt likely to get touched. More likely they would hit bow and fenrir bt17 . I could see bt12 lvl4s get hit instead of the tamers. TO reduce the cycle with ST dragon mode combo. Cerberus x you are right. I could see it actually be banned. Magna x makes no sense being hit, because ex8 and 2.5 have aloooot of outs. They just gave similar imunity to a bunch of decks. (Alpha and jesmon etc) Also. Jack raid, blinding ray , gravity crush

[@Japaneseanimeguy]

Magna x gets immunity from everything except battle and can refresh said immunity so that's a much bigger problem than your examples.

[@VirtualVictrola]

Bukamon was also terrible because literally every blue deck but Imperialdramon ran it, and it homgenized decks too much. And yeah made swinging way too safe. The intent was nice, but it basically made it swing whenever you want.

[@masterkid4878]

@@VirtualVictrola tru but blue still does that because we get like 4 lv3 with jamming and are counting to get more plus Luka had a requirement while the lv3 don't

[@VirtualVictrola]

@masterkid4878 True, but at least you gotta devote spots to it that could be searchers or other archetype specific cards.

[@nomnom2407]

As a Magna X player, I understand your frustration, but the reality is, Bandai loves Magnamon a lot. So, if they said "hey, we can't hit Magna X", what other card(s) would you hit on the list?

[@VirginEarz49_94]

Honestly, if they wanna hit looga, hit the BT14 one. The card literally mind links and gains 3 memory on a turn where you go takemi. Just don’t touch my Solooga and fenri.

[@creepyasgramdpa9916]

7:39 I disagreed with Davis and Ken, can t.k. And Cody literally dedigivolved a digimon when they dna digimon. Palidramon should be limited however cause his stun and 2 free attack really hurt the game. If not the Veemon and Sting from bt12 need to go. Too many memory gain just for a dna.

[@blakegocey]

It has been 1,047 days since a Rasenmon has been printed which means my heart has been banned 🦔♥️

[@atamisirli3620]

Bro can we just Unlimit Greymon X? I wanna play BlackWargeymon...

[@roarinworldwide7892]

Bro yes!

[@masterkid4878]

@@roarinworldwide7892 tru bring back are boy

[@monkteeofficial]

Its time to unban xros 4

[@masterkid4878]

agree

[@torkplayz5695]

List I would expect is BT11 Mirage 7GDL Creepy BT16 Magna X BT16 Partition Pail (D&K is acceptable) BT14 Bowmon EX5 Koh and Sayoh (I play galaxy and acknowledge this card is dumb) Either Ruin mode or BT19 TaoACE Digivolution Plug-In C

[@PiedadInfante-k4z]

Me being a melga player. Bandai needs to unlimited my p-008 weregarurumon. Especially a lot of these decks that are getting otks mechanics. Even better then melga. I don’t believe unlimiting p-008 weregarurumon will make melga broken. Only keep up with the rest of these decks. Even the non otk decks.

[@BlastOffBobby]

I’m gonna say it over and over. Daiken isn’t the issue, hit the bt12 level 4s. They’re the real issue.

[@hugemclargetall]

I agree with all of these, I would just add a choice restriction on EX7 Shoto with Mother, Gate, and Drasil eggs. Just get those annoying interactions out of the way.

[@torkplayz5695]

Bandai had expressed they wouldn't because they believe it slows the game down in a healthy manner

[@Royicethepkmnmaster]

If they don’t hit bowman the upgrades to the deck will make fenrilooga will be the bdif.

[@enigmaticheart666]

The new support is terrible and doesn't even complement the current gameplan, what

[@Royicethepkmnmaster]

@ na the new loogamon and kuzuchi you can easily add to the current lists.

[@francosalazar6305]

@@Royicethepkmnmaster they don't do much better to looga than current kazuchi and ukkomon. In fact current build is just better for not having to commit an on play to search, just raise ukko. Kazuchi is not searchable by tyranno but it is by ukko and trashed directly by analog youth, switching to new looga and kazuchi is more of a sidegrade than anything, none of the new support is supposed to make it better.

[@AdamTCG]

I'm fine with all of it. I like playing magna x so I'd rather not have three of my $ cards end up being worth nothing.

[@roarinworldwide7892]

Just sell them while they're worth money.

[@Dinowrestler]

The TAX DOG Should be gone, I don't care about anyones case for it/ ban it. I personally hait it for what it feels like to play against.

[@justinso8231]

Floodgates easily stops Fenirloogamon. And Biting Crush is the death of Loogamon

[@jessegrieb6557]

Mario finally sir I been asking for your predictions for like 6 months I deserve a shoutout lol jk. Youre awesome

[@benjaminwiseman6567]

I agree with your whole list, Mario, and I say that as someone who plays Magnamon X and knows it's unfair. However, if you hit Davis & Ken, you do completely neuter Imperialdramon the same way hitting Numemon X made Numemon almost unplayable as a competitive deck.

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

I agree that nume was neutered, but to neuter imperial youd have to also limit the paildramon SR, and the Imperial option card, adn they wont do that so imperial will still top. There are too many good techs in that deck, which bandai went protag armour heavy on making it easy to find pieces and for the deck to sync.

[@benjaminwiseman6567]

@klongwright-vf8ry Imperialdramon can't even come close to topping major events without the 4 Davis and Ken. It's the key to the whole deck. Also, there were two other tamers in BT16 that do the same thing, and no one is complaining about them. The correct hit is BT16 Paildramon, which is probably the most overpowered Level 5 ever produced other than maybe Arresterdramon Superior Mode. Force Imperialdramon to use its other DNA Digimon, and then you have a fair deck.

[@johnnystephens259]

Paildramon is ridiculous, but without Davis and Ken at 4, the deck will not be that strong. Davis and Ken helps your consistency, gets your second body on board for free, and helps you keep turns most of the time after you DNA. The tamer has to go, but the deck would be really sluggish after that.

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

@@benjaminwiseman6567 getting to drop potentially four search rookies at the start of your turn is excacerbated in imperial due to the mem gain of the lvl 4s, inheritable that allows for DNA after turn, and the abilties of Paildramon, who is equipped with two tiers of partition. The BT17 option card, and a broken LVL 7 BA in combination with partition inheritable, make the top end difficult to defeat unless you are rolling dedigi. There are so many cards that make imperial busted and restricting the tamer will not stop it from being top, it will simply slow it down.

[@roberttisza5468]

if we hit magnax can we get awakening of the golden knight back xD for the old bt9 magnax

[@retzu321]

Lets take a moment to reflect just how many of these problem cards belong to ex5 + the ones already hit, ex5 truly was absolutely terrible for this game.

[@Kazz1187]

I remember the days when folks weren’t mirage believers

[@saikyojushin370]

Yeah. It was great. Now all the sheep play it and broke it.

[@justinso8231]

Loogamon doesn’t need any hits. It’s not even the tier zero deck Mirage is!

[@saikyojushin370]

Mirage needs an errata. It's too generic and that's the problem.

[@gdash1996]

wow nah screw off with those picks later on

[@madisney123]

Agree on pretty much everything. I have the same thoughts you do on MagnaX, but i dont see it getting hit because we are getting more digimon with similar protection effects. I think we might be heading into Yugioh territory where most boss monsters are going to have strong protection effects or have high levels of recursion.

[@Furious_Flano]

Tbh I find the whole loogamon deck bricky as hell. And this is someone who loves the deck

[@gdash1996]

hell no get the hell out of here with this stuff really? going after eggs now?

[@CrimsonLotus79]

Mirage i agree with but fenri hits is crazy, its a set up deck, you need to hit your opponent for 1 hit then have all 3 combo pieces with a tamer on field to even end game, plus we can be stopped by any deck that has cards they say cant evolve from effect or gain memory except by tamer effects, deck is fair and can be stopped pretty well.

[@12ntltitles]

Koh and Sayo is just better MDF….

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

YES!!! That TAMER IS FUCKING STUPID. Bandai, time and time and again, you not play testing your own cards before releasing has ruined certain metas. This was one of them. Also, those stupid BT17 option cards - you simply cannot remove Omni or Imperial - you just cant. So they get one of those option cards, with pieces in hand, youd better hope you can make it three turns or you're playing multi delete decks like Levia.

[@vagos093]

u really complain about the omni option? its literally the only good card in the deck...and the deck is mid as it is already

[@klongwright-vf8ry]

@@vagos093 I complain about the ability to have four option cards in a deck that triggers deletion of your board when youd go to delete an opponent's digimon. IT's the BT17 option card issue, but it features msot prominently in imperial and Omni. They're bad cards.

[@OctavianGaius]

Analog Youth should be hit to 1.

[@numnut154]

Personally I'd also like to see Duskmon or Velgrmon restricted, and old JetSilphymon unrestricted.

[@Realsoter]

Ruin mode to 0 or at least 1. Also Jack raid and BT2 Matt for purple hybrid. Loops are lame.

[@enigmaticheart666]

Thank God they don't listen to content creators

[@taurusfire2083]

Why? What reasons would they have to not ban the cards that were mentioned in the video?

[@whitedragonzerureusu4480]

They probably don't want it to happen because they are using those cards and want to avoid it happening.

[@ZeroKOR1]

so a turn 2 lethal is fine so fenri can stay. Mirage is fair and balanced taxing every play in the game making it where it can play 3+ cards per turn while you play 1... Galaxy spitting out a lunamon to evo into a lvl 4, burry it for 2 memory, and then burry it again for a free evo over your lvl 5 sounds fun... Davis and Ken a bit much but instead just hit the two bt12 lvl 4s. As for Magna X and Proto eh they are not that strong at this point, and Cerberus X limits game design the same way all purple cards that came before get put on the limit list, it makes the one engine the best way to play no matter the top end.

[@jessegrieb6557]

They were all good hits lol. Youre probally one of those guys that think this game is completely fine lol

[@daveforce4482]

@@whitedragonzerureusu4480 i mean, that it is in fact a valid reason for a person to not wanting these cards banned.

[@SethMSprague]

Analog youth

[@shelbyramin1376]

I dont really like the idea of MOST of these hits. I can agree with ukkomon and the davis and ken, but the rest I would not appreciate seeing limited. The bowmon is op but fenrir needs it to function. Without protections it needs to go jnto its lvl 6 jn a single turn to perform well. Without that ability most of the digimon you put on board will easily be bounced, deleted, or bottom decked. Magnamon x is a deck staple that gatekeeps other decks from playing competitively. At first i disliked this fact, but since its release, I think having a good boogeyman to enforce certain standards isn't a bad thing. Magnamon can be answered, and it can be beaten. As for the galaxy tamers..... i believe the galaxy deck cannot function without the red tamer, and if we limited it the deck would be neutered until it got support. I would prefer an errata to enforce galaxy line digivolution only. This would fix the problem without killing the deck. It doesn't need support or a limit, it needs an errata. Proto form being at 1 doesnt really do anything to any comp deck. It is a strong card, but it isnt a big enough problem to limit. The game is in a good place at the moment. Its faster than i would like, but that seems to be a feature and not a bug. Bandai is not going to slow down digimon. I've accepted this fact. I think it's time y'all accept that fact as well.

[@francosalazar6305]

My thoughts exactly. I actually think that if we're going to use our time to demand change, we might as well ask for better support for other colors rather than ask them to neuter the ones performing better. We have a varied competitive environment right now, save for Mirage which IS skewing results and gatekeeping what makes it higher to the top, a lot of decks actually seem to have a chance to climb decently. NA had a purple top 4 but they were all different decks playing different strategies and cards, the blue skewing of the pie chart was vastly influenced by 7 Mirage players in the top 32, not even that much by other blue decks, and of those only Mirage saw repeat representation in top 8. The most logical hit honestly is just Mirage, get it out of the picture, and suddenly other decks get to climb higher and put a stop to the perceived purple madness. But if they really want to diversify more, just give stronger effects to the other colors, power creep is only a problem if it's too fast and too focused, spread it out and you've got a lot of potential relevant decks. Red and Green are not suddenly going to become more prevalent just because you burn purple to the ground. You need better-designed cards. Maybe fill out the questionnaires that come out with every release and request better support for what you want instead of screaming into the void about things you want gone.

[@oreox1000]

As someone who has most of these decks built, I can’t justify not hitting any of these. They’re all problematic in one way or another and sadly the players that suffer are the ones that casually enjoy these decks because they’re fans of said Digimon. Protoform hit would sadden me because it makes the Royal Base deck really viable, but that’s life.