Dragon Age: The Veilguard - Simply Brilliant On PC - DF Tech Review

[@RetroRonin_21]

Alex: Calls the 3600 "old and crusty" Me to my 3600: "Don't listen to him! You're doing just fine!"

[@Desfes]

He's an elitist..... what do you expect?

[@Phil_529]

@@Desfes It's a midranged CPU from 5 and half years ago. In the PC hardware space that is in fact old and crusty.

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

Ironically ... even if is technically a an old CPU, he also says this 2:31 about it! It can maintain 60 fps nearly all the time which exceeds console capabilities, especially with more fidelity due to a better GPU in combination. Some people have waited for a PS5 Pro ... where a Ryzen 3600 combined with a RTX 4070 or better RX 7900 GRE delivers just more.

[@allhandsonsteamdeck1440]

3600 is ancient 😅😅 it's fine as long as you can still game

[@flimbli]

@@allhandsonsteamdeck1440 one of my friends just bought intel i7-6700 recently xD

[@MacVerick]

I’d wait 30 minutes if it meant a game would never hitch a single time thereafter lol

[@Philosopheraptor]

Preach

[@ibonitog]

easyily! I don't get how it is seemingly so complicated to simply provide a list of ALL shaders for the player to compile. at least make it an menu option idc! how do games even with precompilation steps often miss so many shaders? how difficult is it to simply compile all shaders within the game?

[@leto_atreusII]

PC GaMInG iS BeTTeR 🤓

[@ibonitog]

@@leto_atreusII what do you mean?

[@Optim121]

​@@leto_atreusIII pReFer cOnSolEs 🤡

[@Intigo]

It's insane that this is getting so many dislikes when he's just covering the performance and technical aspect of the game. Some people are crazy.

[@robertlawrence9000]

🥱👎

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Maybe not support the game of any kind. 👍 Look man. They got sponsored paid by them to do videos like this. Look at comments. People are convinced to buy it now right? Ok. Wait till the character start whinning about their legs being sore and them being tired and scared. 😂 Bad game.

[@iyaramonk]

You often see these people moan about "the message". But if you are not delivering their message i.e. trashing the game, you get swarmed by the hate brigade. Ironic, and quite lost on them.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

There is a point gamers are trying to prove.

[@Zero4Infinitives]

​@@momsspaghetti4064What point is that exactly? Until now I saw only that we prove we are toxic.

[@Srefanius]

"Yeah... it's Unreal" No, it's not! This was gold lol

[@gorillagroddgaming]

Red dit tier comment

[@sehrschee]

no stutter struggle!

[@deathx2833]

literally chucked at the line, poor Alex have Unreal Engine stutter nightmares lmaoo!

[@vrapbrap]

We live in a weird timeline when its a real party in my head whenever a game doesn't use slopreal.

[@mitchelljenkins4815]

LOL. Its so funny because its true. The thing is if everyone is using the same engine, it means all games will have the same flaws. Also interested in PS5 Pro performance since that is where I will be playing this.

[@danielgebert4556]

Glad a game released on pc in a state where Alex can actually give “optimized settings” and recommend that people play the pc version. What a welcome change of pace.

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Don’t say anything positive about this title rn…it’s not safe. Lol. I’m so damn excited for this release.

[@Kaztrofy]

@@XiLock_Alotx how the f could you say something positive about it, geez

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Like I'm glad your Tesla drives but it is still a terrible vehicle. Just saying. This game is terrible. Sorry. Will be terrible.

[@sbkidjamx]

@@Kaztrofy i dunno, check the majority of positive reviews

[@Kaztrofy]

@@sbkidjamx the ones that all include the "Bioware is back to form" line... or the ones that's not out yet because they didn't receive a review code?

[@zombiespaz1]

i actually cant believe that a bioware game in 2024 is more optimised than 90 percent of pc games

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Riiiiiight. And the hardware you have is what again? 😅

[@RepublicofODLUM]

@@momsspaghetti4064 Watch the video before commenting and embarrassing yourself. Literally in the first minute Alex says you dont need a high end pc lol

[@sbkidjamx]

seems like they learned from anthem and andromeda. love to see bioware back

[@momsspaghetti4064]

@@RepublicofODLUM well that was a horrible answer. You didn't answer that at all. You just yelled. 😆

[@momsspaghetti4064]

@RepublicofODLUM if you bought a rebuild and don't know. That is ok, man.

[@Glotttis]

Good PC version and optimization, all vendor upscalers included Robust settings menu Fair price adjusted for all different income regions Day 1 Steam release and all Steam features Single player focus and long campaign No Denuvo No EA App No 3rd party accounts required No UE5 stutterstruggle No 120$ Ultimate editions with 3 day early access No season pass No microtransactions No lootbox Also, most hated game on the internet.

[@janklaassen6404]

There's a thing called gameplay. That's why.

[@SammaS423]

We judge game by it's gameplay not because it have good practice why do you think game like cod with there horrible practice is still selling well

[@Ingel_Riday6690]

Don't see you mentioning anything about the awful gameplay or incessant, non-stop, heavy-handed agenda. But hey, I guess none of that matters so long as Denuvo isn't there, eh?

[@Glotttis]

@@Ingel_Riday6690 wat? Gameplay that I saw in a few videos looked fun and what I'd expect from Dragon Age. As for agendas and all that, why should I mention it? It's just your personal bigotry issue, not game issue.

[@brandonnotsowise2640]

@@janklaassen6404Not just gameplay. I find gameplay is average, it’s the story.

[@handsy5458]

5:53 isn't being talked about enough. Multi-stage scaler fully customizable to the player is a game changer. This absolutely needs to be standard for PC releases.

[@muneebhamza8917]

Hair rendering in this game is probably the best we have seen so far in any game.

[@richardjm8092]

Better than FFXVI?

[@muneebhamza8917]

@richardjm8092 yeah

[@TheRedRanger123]

Star Citizen

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

@@TheRedRanger123 tech demos don't count

[@elwingy]

Gtavi though…

[@Midweekers]

Say what you want about the game, but AAA ports like this should be heralded and praised to the moon. Great to see

[@Mike-hj7gg]

yeah but the game sucks ass so theres that...

[@lucaboss4491]

Which port? Pretend with the history of ports useful only to make people believe that the console is the origin. They come out on the same day, if it was a real port it would be a miracle...

[@sashalysm]

@@Mike-hj7gghave you played it?

[@Macheako]

@@sashalysm i watched someone else play it 🤣 close enough

[@urmomma2688]

How have people already formed opinions on this. It isn't even out yet

[@JasonJtran]

"old and crusty" don't talk about the 3600 like that 😭😭😭

[@LordLOC]

Yeah, I'm on a 3600 with a 1660Ti and that just made me cry. :(

[@paulszki]

@@LordLOC I think a 3600 with a 1660ti still should play a bunch of games a 1080p medium settings reallyy well, right? If it's not a first person shooter, I don't really care about dips under 60. you're probably still better of than 90% of the world wide pc player base. 😅

[@LordLOC]

@@paulszki Yes, most games are still fine. UE5 games, especially open world or really heavy games, not so much. Racing games are fine (though jesus christ the new Test Drive is baddddddddd on my pc lol) as are all the bullet heaven and rogue likes I play. Even Black Ops 6 runs great on my system nearly maxed out at 1080P. But the problem is also I put almost all my games on my mechanical ass hdd, and I just don't have the money to even get a 500 gb ssd let alone a 1 tb or 2 tb ssd. I live on a very limited budget because I'm on social security, so I just can't do it. A friend of mine was goingto send me an older 1 tb ssd he had, but he wound up having to use it for his daughter's pc.

[@paulszki]

@@LordLOC man, sucks a bit but don't compare yourself too much with what you see on the internet. You get to play modern games and there's a huge backlog of great titles from the last 10 years that you probably haven't considered yet. HOWEVER I do wonder how you got around to playing a game like the new Test Drive. Like... my guy. Don't buy games at launch (price and no patches). I hope that call of duty bkack ops 6 you played via gamepass. Otherwise you really have no excuse for "I can't upgrade". No idea where you are but a 599gb ssd in germany is like 30 bucks. Seriously hope you just pirated all those games.

[@LordLOC]

@@paulszki I have a Steam press account.

[@jforce321]

Who knew all the effort they put in to having that hair rendering for the soccer games would end up being useful for something else eventually

[@disrupt94]

the animation system for Battlefield was also built upon their FIFA animation system

[@dennisjeppesen9387]

Good to see that StutterStruggle doesn’t have to be the fate of all AAA PC games

[@baronsengir187]

And it is missing denuvo wich helps immensly

[@marrow94]

@@baronsengir187yeah it helps pirates...

[@Tazza19931]

Seems to be mostly the case for Unreal Engine games, I think?

[@baronsengir187]

@@Tazza19931 That is shader compilation stutter

[@Tazza19931]

@@baronsengir187 I know. However, what's weird is there are some UE games, like The Finals, that compile their shaders first and I don't get any stutters with that game. But there are some games that seemingly try to do that but there are still stutters afterwards. I dunno, it's weird.

[@Redpandafan5000]

alex my man, you’ve done it again. i hit a point a little later where i felt i was stuck at 30-20 fps and the optimized settings saved it. now 60fps with rt pretty spiffy

[@DanteBellin]

Dragon Age is not a game for me, but I'm glad there is finally a PC game again that just runs really well!

[@Zero4Infinitives]

I applaud your real and honest attitude.

[@AlmostLikeHuman]

Same, from a technical perspective this is really impressive, it's just too bad the franchise lost me a decade ago. Here's to hoping future Frostbite titles run more like this and less like the Dead Space remake.

[@WraithReaper09]

@@AlmostLikeHuman Yeah, the BioWare devs have certainly gotten a better handle on how to get the Frostbite engine to work for them.

[@joseaca1010]

And from Electronic fuckin' Arts no less

[@TheT0nedude]

This isn't Dragon Age.

[@AlterBridgeJericho]

Why are these twitter losers coming to dislike a technical showcase video which shows the game isn't glitchy?? Get a hobby

[@Etheral101]

Those kinds of right-wing losers don't work. They spend all day angry on the internet

[@kosmosyche]

I'm just glad they have another game to hate on. Maybe they'll finally get off SH2 Remake case now they have another target. lol

[@aaronlaughter6471]

Because they have nothing in life but politics. They get pissed when you have Role Play options in an RPG because it does not fit there wants and beliefs.

[@CTomCooper]

Projection. As in, twitter activists are coming in to prop up one thing to be said favorably about a game in order to pivot and lambast gamers who aren’t impressed.

[@SD-vp5vo]

cause alex is woke

[@DataLore19]

"Yeah, it's unreal..." Alex: No! It's not! 💀Awesome transition.

[@someshwarrao42]

Alex: This game extremely PC- Haters: YES! Exactly! Alex: optimised and runs very well. Haters: No! Not like that!

[@gungermunggung9299]

@@handle32169that’s just objectively untrue based on what’s presented in the video. Like why lie about it, or do you just have issues with comprehension?

[@OneDumbOrangeCat]

@@handle32169 It literally said "(CPU Bound)" in that part, with a Ryzen 5 3600, which, in case you didn't know, was a mid-range CPU back in 2019.

[@minhuang8848]

"Dragon Age: The Veilguard woke--" TOLD YOU SO "the slumbering beast we have come to know as 'micro stutter' - and cleanly lopped off its head." NOOOOOOOoooOOOooo!!

[@unnoticedhero1]

@@OneDumbOrangeCat People just wanna pick and choose the best thing to complain about, if you have a 3600 and 4070 super you need to upgrade your CPU lol.

[@OneDumbOrangeCat]

@@unnoticedhero1 Tbh the most powerful card that should ever be paired with a 3600, which won’t be GPU bound or CPU bound in all cases, is a 3070 for less CPU titles, or I think an excuse could be made if using 4k with a higher end GPU, but for example if I use my 5700x, there are certain rare situations where I can get CPU bound with the 3080 Ti + 5700x combo, mainly in titles which lack CPU optimization.

[@paracuja]

This Hair Quality should be the new standard!

[@Bransburk]

So should a good quality story, but here we are.

[@reinsol387]

@@Bransburk how many hours are you into it?

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

@@reinsol387 He isn't. He's on his culture war

[@DonnyKanone]

actually love the story. Some great cutscene animations with kinetic action. Barfight in the beginning is legit action movie material

[@conorgillespie7832]

...In the rain the hair doesn't get wet? It's 2024.

[@ollebrickarp]

I’ve found that vram usage varies a lot depending in zone. The optimized settings from this video resulted in a lot of stutters for me all of a sudden. Realized that vram went from around 6.8GB to 7.2.

[@WAGLB]

nobody is talking about...but the Textures are the best seen in much time....Texture quality in games looks that stopped in time...until now...incredible!

[@CryptoFrogg]

The dislikes on this video just prove that the hate-train on this game is entirely artificial. Digital Foundry evaluates based on technical measurements from numerical (evaluative not quantitative) data. This is not a story and lore review, it is a systemic one based on science and technology (both software and hardware). The fact that this video has so many dislikes, shows that people are hating on this game simply because they want to have an agenda against it. Which quite frankly, makes me want to support Bioware and this game even more.

[@DoritosBurger]

American games suck now bro. Edit: please don’t get the wrong idea about me, I am not some bigot or racist in fact I loved Alan wake 2 and lots of people had a problem with that game and called it woke because the main character was black. But sometimes it’s obvious that games are pushing an agenda, and it is primarily happening with western made games.

[@DigitalFoundry]

BioWare is a Canadian company

[@DoritosBurger]

@@DigitalFoundry should have rephrased my statement by saying western games are way too politicized and trying to push particular agendas therefore the quality of the games suffer because of that. Although I will admit from a technical perspective this game does look good and that’s where the west has the edge over Japanese games.

[@BoxHeadMidus]

@@DoritosBurger We just got Metaphor RefanTazio....

[@Bestwick1983]

OK, so why didn't they do a tech review of Hogwarts Legacy?

[@TheSkepticSkwerl]

I NEVER wanna hear a reviewer ever say CPU DOESN'T MATTER again. This game and many others clearly get improvements from CPU. Especially with DLSS or FSR on.

[@exscape]

Who actually says that? Perhaps I'm biased as I mostly view hardware review channels, not game review channels. CPUs very obviously matter for gaming. With a 60 fps target most CPUs will do fine, but these days most people aim higher than that.

[@Phil_529]

CPUs have always been important. AMDs x3d is the way to go for any serious gamer on PC.

[@Sebastiside]

Every time i am interested on a new game i have come here to watch the tech review. It's tradition now

[@momsspaghetti4064]

Did you play the older DA games?

[@momsspaghetti4064]

If yes. You will absolutely hate this game. 😅

[@Zero4Infinitives]

​​@@momsspaghetti4064Why do you care about other people opinion? You don t like it but many other do. I swear some people are so bent on having others do their bidding they go bananas.

[@Zaviex]

@@momsspaghetti4064do you have nothing better to do? You haven’t even played this but you post a million comments telling people not to enjoy the thing they want to

[@enrique6335]

As a PC player, it's a must for me. I don't have a top end PC and need to know if it'll be worth my time attempting to play the game at settings that are acceptable for me or just put it in the back burner until I upgrade my hardware.

[@Steeeve_Rpg]

People have hated on every DA game, including origins for its combat. DA:2 was bashed for its limited gameplay due to the short development time frame. DA:I looked dramatically different compared to the previous two entries and, of course, the bloat...all this to say: hating on DA isn't new. Try the game and see if you like it for yourselves. My standards must not be as high as all of these people with harsh criticisms because I started with 2, then origins and inquisition, and loved them all.

[@clarinet800149]

You’re right. There has been a needless amount of whining in regards to this game. Some of it understandable because we are seeing but not experiencing it yet. But people will be miserable for the sake of being miserable these days.

[@Roland1405]

This has nothing to do with the quality of the game, the hate train is a campaign by anti Woke anti DEI people that can't fathom that pronounces in a game will not destroy the western world.

[@Vladislav888]

>DA:2 was bashed for its limited gameplay I haven't heard this piece of criticism in particular. Ever. - It's often bashed - and rightfully so - for the reused locations and the lack of scenery variety. - The lack of outfit options for your companions isn't a welcome change too. - Encounter design could use some work from a tactial standpoint - Some of the choices on a writers part are baffling, like fusing Anders with Justice. - Some of the quests are obviously undercooked, like the last one not making any sense if you side with mages But the gameplay was perfectly fine, unlike, say, the Inqustion, where tactics was gutted. Veilguard looks like an Inqustion2.0

[@JeyKalda]

@@Vladislav888 I love how people still can't even now accept the fact that the devs themselves stated that Inquisition is the closest they could've gotten to what they wanted their dragon age games to be. Cling to DA:O, nobody is stopping you from enjoying that. Don't get why after 15 effin years we still have to listen to people whining about the combat being completely different when in fact this is exactly how the devs wanted it to be.

[@Vladislav888]

@@JeyKalda >accept the fact that the devs themselves stated that Inquisition is the closest they could've gotten to what they wanted First of all, how is this relevant in any way, shape or form? I liked DA:O, I liked DA2 despite the obvious lack of polish, I preordered DA:I and I got a turd on plate with some nuggets here and there. Why should I care about their vision? Second, can I get the citation? According to the "Blood, Sweat and Pixels", the development of DA:I was a horror show on many levels. Working with Frostbite was a nightmare, the vision for the game was incoherent, hence, say, hinterlands was a thing and then they decided that it was a failed experiment, sections of the game - like a boat segment - were scrapped and a lot of people were crushed by the brutal crunch to the point of having a breakdown. Doesn't sound like the environment where devs can freely implement their perfect vision. >combat being completely different The problem isn't that it's different. The problem is that it's dogshit. They substituted perfectly capable tactical combat with at the very best mediocre action combat in the Inqusition. I'm not comparing DA:I with DA:O or DA2, because the gameplay is completely different. I compare DA:I with other action RPGs like BotW, Dark Souls or, hell, even Diablo. It's not even remotely close.

[@banjomir519]

I'm surprised you guys didn't pick up on the memory leak problem this game is suffering from.

[@TheEPICGAMINGS]

The minimum required a GTX 970 in 2024 thats amazing like damn its amazing the optimization

[@KirRaeDreamer]

This will most likely be a VERY unpopular opinion, but I would be thrilled if the first three games were completely remastered using this current engine. While keeping each game’s unique gameplay system intact. With minor improvements where needed. This video shows how far BioWare has grown from the robotic movement, repetitive facial expressions and hand gestures. This is fluid, varied, and naturalistic animation. And it performs well in comparison to many supposed AAA titles in recent years. As much as I loved the previous games when they released, I much prefer this over the clunkiness of the past.

[@rapmonied]

actually the 3rd game is made on this same engine, but i imagine in the 10 years in between they tweaked it to hell and back since this enging was made for shooters in the beginning anyway haha

[@connorc44]

You can't remaster a game with a new engine. It would require an entire remake, which I agree with. Also inquisition was on frostbite. And I don't think this is a "VERY unpopular opinion".

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

@@connorc44 Inquisition mostly just needs better lighting (material reflections etc) and actual hair physics. Other than fixing some annoying bugs.

[@cj7318]

Not possible. This game is smaller in scope than the past ones. Janky animations are inevitable when dealing with huge games. Also because people would call it "clunky", they need to record new lines for origins. Imagine recording all the dialogue for the HOF with their multiple origins and races.

[@Fatsorcist]

5800x + 4090, 2k, everythng maxxed out, no dlss = 75-80 fps ... not a single drop during whole 56h playthrough. Agree. Brilliant

[@ryanz486]

I think we've come full circle where the culture war gamers have outright lost their minds completely. A review on performance and still people are crying about "but what about the wokeness!??".

[@brando3342]

Nah, the industry has done it to themselves. People are fed up, now they’re going to have to lie in the bed they made. I don’t blame people at all. Especially not when the channel titles their video like this one is.

[@kingofnara]

@@brando3342you guys complained about outrage culture liberals rightfully so but now have become outrage culture in the opposite direction, you are all the same it just depends on the cause you claim to fight for, neither of you have a cause it’s just a cover for power, do things my way or I will cry

[@brando3342]

@@kingofnara Nah, that’s ignoring context. The left really loves doing this. They will make something the biggest deal in the world, shove it in your face 24/7 as if it’s life or death if you don’t not only accept it, but like it….. then, the moment people start pushing back on the crap with equal force, all of sudden the response is “It’s not even a big deal, why do you even care so much?” No. See, this is what they’ve done. They asked for this. You can’t create a scene with a bulldozer, and expect everyone to just lie down, and get bulldozed. And if you get push back while you’re half way done rolling over your target, you can’t go crying that the prey is fighting back. That’s not how this works, that’s not how any of this works. We didn’t start the war, but it’s only fair, and we are completely justified in doing something to end it. If they want to pump out more and more propaganda, I don’t blame anyone for speaking against it, and using their wallet as another form of speech. If you disagree with this, maybe you should check your logic, biases, and priorities 👍

[@brando3342]

@@kingofnara I replied to you, but KZbin hid my comment 🫤 The only way to read it is to sort the comments by “newest first” and find this thread again 🤦‍♂️

[@A2theC]

The views and engagement equate to money for DF, the likes point out viewers do not like the content. It's very much understood why, nothing to do with their presentation, probably. It's still viewers right to express which content they want to see. Every page featuring the game are literally paid to, so it doesn't matter if it's liked or not, gamers will buy what they like.

[@wisnudJat]

19:52 Comment for myself (rec settings)

[@sean8102]

Been playing the game for ~1 hour now. Got all settings maxed out except "ultra raytracing" at 1440p. Haven't had a single dip in FPS and most of all a perfect frametime graph (no stutters!). Regardless of what you think of the game its self Bioware and the Frostbite engine team deserve credit for releasing a new AAA PC game on PC without framepacing / stutter issues (on day 1) like so many Unreal Engine games.

[@kingfrozen4257]

The "Unreal" joke! was Unreal! had me rolling! Thanks Alex for quality content as always

[@joseaca1010]

People who hit dislike be like: "NO i want BAD PC ports! 😡"

[@turtlerx]

It's not about that it's about a company shoving identity policies into games

[@joseaca1010]

​@@turtlerx and what does that have to do with a tech review? Moreso, this isnt some random company hijacking an existing IP to do politics, this is bioware doing a bioware, they have ALWAYS been very progressive, for better or worse

[@Gadinel]

I see this game, i click the dislike, it's as simple as that :)

[@alkemus]

@@Gadinel Shallow little man.

[@richardwilliams877]

​@@Gadinelwow, you're so cool! People must flock to you! 😱😱

[@bananaboy482]

The dual upscale thing is something I've wanted for a LONG time. Seeing it here just solidifies that this is a FANTASTIC PC port. I love being able to use temporal upscaling and spatial upscaling with separate values. Sometimes you just don't need to upscale into such a high-resolution canvas, but dropping the internal resolution too far from the native resolution will produce different looking artifacts. For example, 8k HUD, 4k game, 1080p internal, as opposed to 1080p to 8k, which will not look good.

[@Swecan76]

This is actually a substantial graphical improvement on PC 4K Max vs the best the consoles can produce in fidelity mode. The clarity and sharpness of textures alone and lighting and RT reflections.

[@KeltonDavis]

Might be the best hair tech in any game ever released? Crazy to me cause hair in frostbite has never really looked good.

[@impersonator4439]

Also the best game with top surgery scars in the character creator.

[@momsspaghetti4064]

You didn't play Red Dead Redemption 2 huh? 😢 Games had hair like this on Xbox 360 man. Xbox One. XSX. BDO ffs. 😂

[@Lc-Anders]

@@momsspaghetti4064what game had hair like this on the 360? Come on

[@Lucax97]

​@@impersonator4439rent free huh?

[@pixelslaughter3492]

​@@Lucax97You're not being very inclusive if you're not accepting of their lived experiences.

[@ShepardC0mmander]

So the solution to the StutterStruggle is simply not using UE5? I'm worried about the next Halo being a stutterfest seeing every single UE5 is badly optimized. Not only Halo but the whole industry seems to be moving to this engine. Will Epic ever solve this or are we doomed ? Great work Alex.

[@AL2009man]

which is very funny given the Dead Space remake has a similar StutterStruggle problem, SAME GAME ENGINE too. but I guessed BioWare pay a lot of attention with the hashtag.

[@dark_winter8238]

Cyberpunk 2 is my biggest worry. They finally got the game working and looking amazing and moved to an engine that is known for bad open world.

[@dapperfan44]

That's why I'm not a big fan of games using Unreal 5 right now. You have to upgrade so much to be able to use it.

[@pencilcheck]

I called this out a long time ago, all UE4, 5 games all have stutter fest and some people even suggested and want all games to use UE engine. They really have no idea

[@chien.nguyen.]

@@dark_winter8238 The reason they use UE5 is because the red engine is really not suitable anymore, they spent a lot of time making the red engine work to create cyberpunk but it still runs very poorly, partly because the engine has been upgraded. level, but there are still many technical limitations. Changing to UE5 was the right decision because after the failure in cyberpunk they will not bet on the upgrade engine again. 1 important thing is that they are 1 big company with lots of experience and supported by the best cam from epic I think the problems from UE5 are not an important problem

[@jjdizz1l]

I'm glad. Now, I feel safe purchasing the game!

[@DiminishingAugmentation]

Can someone explain why this has so many dislikes? This video is very well-made and offers great insight and criticisms.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

People are in their feels about the game cause it has LGBTQ characters in it. They don't like _any_ positive things to be said about the game even if it's just about the game's well done optimization.

[@jilherme]

most is the same as baldurs gate

[@frrellr]

basement crawlers who have nothing better to do with their lives, just ignore them.

[@albert2006xp]

Because we live in the age where we allowed social media to rot the minds of manchildren for the past 15-ish years.

[@Naqaj]

culture war bullshitters have chosen this game as their next target

[@RolanTHUNDER]

Devs take note. This is how you optimize a game for PC out of the box! The game looks amazing. Thank you Bioware 👏 And thanks Bataglia for the optimized settings. I can't wait to run it on my 5700X3D and RTX3080 very soon

[@RolanTHUNDER]

@@handle32169 Yeah right...

[@henkaan7741]

why are people disliking this video so much? They're just talking about technical performance, which is basically the most objective aspect you could possibly talk about in a review.

[@NoExplosionsMcgee]

Nice to see Frostbite getting better as time goes on. It still has a lot of stuff that it needs to iron out and improve on but still it's good progress none the less.

[@baelorn519]

I think the main issue was a lack of support for the devs using it within EA

[@DizietSma69]

BioWare took their time with optimizing, it's not just that the engine "got better"

[@Zero4Infinitives]

​@@DizietSma69This is a new iterarion of the engine so yes, it did improve.

[@DandySlayer13]

@@baelorn519 Dice works heavily with these teams on Frostbite optimization but its just an engine that was built for a singular purpose that was then force upon studios that didn't make games that fit that singular purpose.

[@TheKhaosTheori]

Thanks for the breakdown. This game is gorgeous!

[@thesixth2330]

Great Tech Review!!!

[@emperman]

My poor 1070ti just comin out of finishing silent hill 2 remake: "Ah shit here we go again."

[@dapperfan44]

That's the one I have, too!

[@ratarakishika854]

Mine is 1060 3GB 😅 Might have to lower the resolution if needed 😂😂

[@handle32169]

But hey! It runs "brilliantly" (60 FPS) on... 4070 Super with... DLSS ultra performance... and optimised settings. Wow!

[@OneDumbOrangeCat]

@@handle32169 Ah I see, classic spreading misinformation, in that section they were using a Ryzen 5 3600, and did that to show the CPU limitation with that particular processor, which, modern day you can find for about $60-$70, but okay buddy, sure.

[@bloodyassault803]

Your GPU is gonna end up hearing “GO GO POWER RANGERS!” but in heavy metal soon

[@LordRaydenTube]

Alex praising a new pc game for being unique because it‘s not a complete technical disaster. But at the same time the DF team sells the pc platform to be the most superior gaming platform of them all.

[@DakotaChambers]

Honestly I am stunned by how polished this game looks. Miraculous considering the development hell it went through. Well done Bioware, this looks like a real winner.

[@Bry.89]

People need to learn the difference between art style and graphics because visually this game looks stunning to me, since the art style doesn't bother me. And it's an absolutely joy to see a game release in a GOOD state for once.

[@Critirus]

Style is something DA doesn't have. It's objectively bad visuals that fall into the uncanny valley, something that is 100% avoidable and they somehow failed the easiest part

[@Bry.89]

@@Critirus well you can't say it's objectively bad with visuals since the art aesthetics are literally up to one's own opinions, which is subjective in nature.

[@spambox3624]

I personally prefer dark, gritty art direction but I strongly believe the visual team executed their style (shiny and flashier) gorgeously here 👀

[@Bry.89]

@@spambox3624 if people prefer the dark gritty art and story, maybe they should play the game fully? It gets darker once you get to regions with the blight.

[@adamfinlay169]

So stoked that the PC port is good.

[@brysigue6606]

People disliking because a TECHNICAL VIDEO doesn't fit their hate narrative. LOL!

[@aaronlaughter6471]

They act like the snowflakes they call others. Ironic.

[@turtlerx]

Shoving identity policies into video games. They deserve the hate for supporting them

[@CTomCooper]

@@aaronlaughter6471 Coming to the defense of a tech demo, because the game fails as a game and reviewers were bought off to be favorable. “AnTiWokE”-ah shut it. Good to know which channels to unsub from anyhow.

[@environm3ntalist549]

@@CTomCooperwhy does it fail and what makes it woke?

[@Phil_529]

@@CTomCooper You won't be missed.

[@Plexy__music]

Digital Foundry praises Dragon Age: Dreadwolf for its technical quality, which stands out as an exception among recent, often poorly optimized releases. Mortismal Gaming, whose tastes usually align with mine, even nominated it for 'Game of the Year.' From what I've noticed, much of the negative feedback seems to come from people with ideological objections, most of whom dismiss it without having actually played the game. I'll check out some no-commentary walkthroughs when they appear, and if it looks promising, I'll give it a shot

[@JeyKalda]

Wait, this yet again is not DA:O 2.0 ?! HOW DARE THEY RUIN DRAGON AGE /s just to be sure

[@maharaja101]

I'm conflicted about this game. I absolutely despise that cartoony art style and I don't like the seemingly light tone they went with in the story either. BUT that said, I do have to give credit where credit is due and it seems like they nailed the PC port + there is also no added BS like the EA App or Denuvo. I can't say I expected that at all from EA of all things.

[@Plexy__music]

@@maharaja101 The art style doesn’t seem very different from Inquisition to me. The biggest change looks to be in the combat system. Inquisition had clunky, MMO-style combat and a strategy mode that wasn’t very effective. This game seems to have made combat more fluid, which is an improvement. Ideally, I’d prefer something more tactical, like Origins. But if it’s a choice between solid real-time combat and something awkward in between, I’d go with the former.

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

@@Plexy__music The artstyle isn't that different from Inquisition, its just higher fidelity version of it. They did redesign the demons and the darkspawn, which will bother people. It'll bother people who love the art style - like me, I prefer the darker themes, and the scarier design. People in general do not like change. Those are perfectly valid criticisms, but not of the quality of the game.

[@pasco71]

It shouldn't be this surprising to see a well optimised and highly performant PC game in 2024... but I'll happily take that pleasant surprise.

[@COCOniTOOOOOO]

Alex sound so happy in this intro. Like if he finally was at peace with the world. I think it makes me happy too.

[@lukilladog]

The only lag he Will find here Is the gameplay itself.

[@COCOniTOOOOOO]

@@lukilladog I have not heard a single well articulated criticism of the game yet.

[@Scisca1a2a]

@@COCOniTOOOOOO Guess you live under a rock

[@lukilladog]

@@COCOniTOOOOOO You didn't watch the Skillup review.

[@banedeath]

While I have no interest in this game I have to say that the hair does look absolutely amazing. Apparently it runs well as well and that's good news. I'll just leave it at that.

[@averyarmory7716]

I remember when developers were saying Frostbite was difficult to work with and was only good for shooter games. Not sure it’s gotten any easier to develop for but it’s good to see Frostbite being used in other kinda of games and putting out great graphics.

[@fabiorosolen]

Running the game with a 1060 3GB, Ryzen 5 2400G and 16 GB of RAM on a HDD. It's fine. Nothing too horrible.

[@kaptenteo]

Even if the game itself is terrible, for many reasons, it definitely deserves positive attention for releasing a solid PC port. Thanks for the abalysis, Alex, and I'm glad you got to review something less disappointing for once. 😅

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

"ITS TERRIBLE" about a game that's not even released. Totally no agenda there at all, lmao

[@HighSpeedTV]

awesome to hear this! might pick this one up and try it out just because they actually put some effort into the PC port.

[@redpepperdave]

Some people just enjoy being angry. Glad to hear that the pc version wasn't compromised. Being released on steam day one with no DRM is wild. Still waiting for more reviews on the gameplay and game mechanics. I appreciate you guys on always providing detailed tech information for people like me that enjoy benchmarking and tweaking in game settings. Cheers DF crew!

[@meltdown8936]

this game has the "Gamers nexus hair" DLC 😂

[@drlemon7729]

Frostbite engine has always been awesome

[@KariWase]

This is so helpful and visual, thank you for such a perfect tech review! I'm glad it's so well optimized compared to most games that come out for pc. Excited to play this the 31st of October.

[@rm-vn1eq]

I totally agree that on GPU side the game is well optimized but it's very very CPU intensive. I have a 10900k and i'm cpu limited in many areas and I fall under 50 fps while my gpu has 90% usage. My 10900k is using around 200W most of the time and can go higher, it's usually between 60 and 80% usage. You can't call a game well optimized when a 4 yo 10 core high end cpu can't reach constant 60 fps.

[@Crimsongz]

Frostbite engine games are heavily intensive on the CPU side. Thanks god for DLSS frame generation

[@mondodimotori]

It's nice to see the Frostbite still in good form.

[@jmcdermott53]

It looks like this game is well optimized. Curious to see how PS5 Pro fares. I also didn't realize there was so much hate for this game. I'm going to take a wild guess that something "woke" is getting their panties in a twist.

[@bollywongaloid]

more to do with the tonal shift to be more childish and Disney-like, horrendous writing (especially dialogue), outdated disjointed structure, boring combat, etc. But of course the shit games get the good PC ports 🤦‍♂️

[@mattb8412]

Whenever I find myself curious about the next big gaming outrage tennis match I remind myself that it’s just some turnips having a tanty about something and I don’t actually give a toss.

[@aletir6111]

Guys, this is a tech review, keep that in mind and don't be morons

[@aL3891_]

Finally a pc release that doesn't disappoint, just hearing the lack of disappointment in Alex's voice is great 😂 Game looks really good as well

[@elviskleber10]

Very impressive hair tech on this game, really good.

[@dastephen91]

Thanks for the video. I'm happy to hear it plays great on PC. Combined with other reviews I saw, I decided I'm going to buy this.

[@squidapple9662]

17:33 Best looking hair in a videogame I've ever seen honestly, it looks incredible

[@crushlemons]

Please do a Steam Deck test for this game.

[@maxr9409]

Full shader pre-compilation? Tears of joy.

[@Hedonite]

This game looks so gorgeous

[@vanMrMann]

Really looking forward to this game! Reviews seem positive and a great departure from Inquisition! The snowflakes and trolls that never played a DA to begin with will quiet down eventually anyway. Great to hear that it's optimized and a great experience!

[@spaaaaace8952]

He said the buzzwords.

[@BackwardsCombatable]

The irony that you call these people snowflakes and trolls but this role playing game you supposedly are excited for wouldn’t let you do that😂

[@chrisgerhard4425]

Just a forewarning that EA has been holding back review codes from Reviewers that have had even slightly negative things to say about the game so far. Fextralife has a great video on the whole situation. So while the game may be great on a technical level, maybe wait to purchase until reviews start coming out a couple of weeks after release.

[@AnimeUniverseDE]

​@@chrisgerhard4425this is not true. There's no source for this. Just one guy making it up. The game has 50 reviews up, some highly critical, everyone got the keys a week early. If you had something to hide, why would you give out the keys so early?

[@brandonnotsowise2640]

Lol I played all of DA and Inquisition was a departure and was ish. What a joke.

[@3KPK3]

Epic! Even more hyped to play this game now.

[@designlover945]

EA games nowadays seem really optimized. I could play the Dead Space Remake on my oldish PC and it looked incredible and runs well. I since updated my PC so Veilguard should run smooth 💜

[@antont4974]

Dead Space Remake is f tier pc port, not sure why you praise it

[@designlover945]

@@antont4974 What I said was a personal experience. I´m sorry if the game didn´t run well on your pc, but I don´t know why you argue with me.

[@Jun3Bugg]

This is the best I've seen Frosbite look

[@charoleawood]

it's a gorgeous engine, Need For Speed 2015 is still an artistic masterpiece

[@fenixa2z936]

Looks stunning TBH

[@handle32169]

Yeah it's really butting heads with industry colloses like Skyrim and Far Cry Primal and dare I say, even Witcher 3

[@Jun3Bugg]

@handle32169 idk. I think the Red engine is a force to be reckoned with. We'll be blown away when Witcher 4 starts showing up. I didn't even put Frostbite anywhere near the top. It is now tho. But I think UE5 and Luminous still reign supreme. Too bad Luminous is no more tho

[@techsamurai11]

@@Jun3Bugg Luminous? Do you mean Lumen?

[@faceurhell]

Great to see a modern Western 3rd party game release with great technical ports on all platforms with great settings and no significant technical hiccups. That should be the standard, but sadly is not.

[@HungrySeal31]

I think people need a reminder that DF is a technical review channel, not a general review. As divisive as the game is among reviewers, nearly all of them praised the game performance.

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

Is it really that divisive? Don't get me wrong, not enjoying tone is one thing, but that's kind of like saying pixar is bad cause it's not edgy. Doesn't really make it bad or divisive in that sense. As long as the gameplay is good, it runs well, and has a compelling story, it shouldn't bog down a review to a low score. I think it's more to do with the expectations some people have of DA, for some reason expecting it to suddenly revert back to as a sequel to the first game from 15 years ago, instead of the game from 10 years ago... It's kind of weird.

[@_theduckofdeath_]

Excellent review. Great to see so many little hiccups in performance and settings menus are addressed here. Just a few settings bugs to fix. The girl character's hair looks amazing.

[@kaira9094]

Great performance review, its good to see a well optimized game for once, Thank you DF.

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing video. I thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you Digital Foundry! :D

[@GameslordXY]

In Peace,Vigilance. I War,Victory. In Death.Sacrifice . That is what it meant to be a Grey Warden. The Oath. And there are some here.

[@jackkenny4194]

Frostbite is a good engine. I will always remember its use in Medal of Honor 2010 and how amazing it was

[@Rhino1931]

I remember I was irritated when they started using Frostbite for everything, but I definitely like how it was used here.

[@jasonprendergast7493]

Makes me laugh. All of the people hating on this game. Still have no idea what it’s like as it’s not out yet. People tell other people opinions are wrong based on other peoples opinions all formed of no opinion of their own. The world today is nuts, absolute nuts! 😂

[@corruptedpoison1]

Watch Skill Ups review.

[@jasonprendergast7493]

@ I don’t need to watch anyone’s review. The game is out in less than 2 days time. I will play and I will develop my own review of the game. I know it’s a game I want, it’s a game I will be playing, then I will find out if I enjoy it or not. Simple as that.

[@giancarlo5945]

​@@corruptedpoison1bro you showed that the comment is right because it would give validity to the opinion of someone who unfairly criticized armored core 6 and final fantasy 16 ? skill up has no validity any more than anyone else, form your own criteria

[@orenbartal8504]

@@corruptedpoison1 Why his review specifically and not the other reviews that praise the game..? Can you at least admit that the game is divisive where some liked it and some didn't - or are you fully on the hate bandwagon for rage internet points?

[@1yu8omir]

It's the hate train, will get worse when game releases, they start nitpicking stuff, going to be Starfield all over again 🥲

[@anthonyrizzo9043]

Thats great news. the thing that did stand out to me though is none of the extra pc quality features really seemed to change anything that greatly. Mostly everything looks more stable, less aliased and runs smoother than console. But as far as actual quality settings, its not much of a difference.

[@lucaboss4491]

It actually seems like it does, but if you have to go down to Switch to see the differences, it's different. Maybe you missed the almost 500p of Alex, while on the screen you saw the pixelated one of 25 years ago? I suspect that for you there are very few cases in which you can see the difference, but it's not because it's true, it's because you want to believe it...

[@Khaostheory1980]

Great job Alex, very informative and great presentation.

[@Alcatraz760]

We have frostbite being a more optimized engine than unreal before GTA 6. Outstanding.

[@NearMedia]

If you’re reading this, don’t panic. If you hear positive things about this game it’ll be okay. Your life won’t change. No one will be harmed. Life goes on.

[@Valon129]

But it's woke and I am a piece of shit, shouldn't I be worried ?

[@spambox3624]

@@Valon129That got good chuckles out of me, cheers

[@pvtcmyers87]

I cant wait to watch this video after i get off work. I'm excited to see bioware doing some good work techically speaking. Its been a long time.

[@Camilo316]

Perfect example of a game that can look great and doesn’t have to be so demanding and you can still play at high frame rate And high Fidelity. Instead of getting a game from UE5 that are too demanding to play on PC.

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

If only this much effort went into actually fun games😄

[@JFinns]

Frostbite engine being so good on PC doesn't surprise me. BF2042 for any of its faults - looks, sounds, and runs amazing on 64 player conquest/rush modes on PC. There is even a brief shader compilation during map loads online. Getting 1440p 120-150fps high settings now.

[@John_Smith5]

This is the best looking hair I’ve seen in a video game period

[@86Fallowcp]

I think DMC5 funnily gets close

[@mencini7382]

This game is beautiful and I love the art style, maybe I will pick it up!

[@epencrep]

Good work Alex appreciate your dedication to your craft.

[@joeykeilholz925]

Glad everyone has "return KZbin dislike" enabled apparently. Good stuff. And a good video. And if it makes internet neets cry, it must be an amazing game.

[@aaronlaughter6471]

Indeed, I get not liking the art stlye, or having grievances. But coming to a video that only talks about the technical side to be jackasses because they dare say something nice is snowflake behavior.

[@SpentAmbitionDrain]

It's smooth when it counts... Apart from the dialogues 😂