God of War Ragnarök - PS5 vs PS4 vs PS4 Pro - The Complete Cross-Gen Comparison

[@hj-hv6rt]

The fact that this game looks and runs as well as it does on a console that came out in 2013 is absurd

[@thelarry383]

@@ramonandrajo6348 cope lil bro

[@T9324]

@@ramonandrajo6348 you are on COKE

[@houman2009]

It’s called being lazy

[@zombiebillcosby]

@@ramonandrajo6348 how is this game woke? Jesus Christ get a life instead of bitching about things you don’t agree with

[@cadattack123]

@@ramonandrajo6348 cry more bot

[@baguete02]

No matter how powerful your console is , art direction is key to provide impressive graphics above fidelity or photo realism, and Santa Monica Studios are simply masters on what they do, above all else a polished experience with near perfect performance across the board, something really rare nowadays.

[@opgam3r482]

I've often used that to criticize certain devs... Or to build a case where consoles have their place. The Proprietary tech/ solutions on an SoC. They're used and harnessed to do (specifically this gen) what some PC's cannot... unless having a very similar SoC (system on chip) where they would use all features and attributes of the console procedure that your GPU and CPU simply cannot duplicate... DICE and FROSTBITE being examples of these engines that just crank up "Settings" instead of building around the tech. Ratchet Rift Apart and Miles Morales is a great example of this... "the PC" as a dev's primary platform of choice to just crank up things like Anti Aliasing, Res, Frame rate, bloom, shadows, textures... does not equate to a "Specialty team" if you will, made to harness strong capabilities of all proprietary tech... and this is the first time we're seeing this play out, 80-90% of PC gamers are playing 1080 some jumping to 1440 at 100-120htz... Console and HDMI has made HDMI 2.1 relevant, and 4k @ 120 the best optimal target for a PC (unless you just don't care) but the proof is out there.... Sony implementing VRR, LG w/ their "TV like Displays" etc etc... quite a significant shift. PC will always have the top ceiling, but the desire to mass produce a console is finally pushing true innovations, similar to what the "CELL Broadband engine" tried on the ps3, but was missing too much of other power PC's had... a PS5 and SX "Pro" will even it out i believe for fair comparison.

[@FrodoTEST]

You forgot that the game is empty.

[@sbrensbeve3265]

@@FrodoTEST what do you mean by that? No spoilers please and thank you 🙏

[@SakuraAvalon]

Which is why God of War 3 still looks good, despite its age.

[@GMMXX80]

Part of the reason Xbox is failing right now. They're chasing after the wrong thing. Too focused on having the most powerful hardware and not on just making a game fun. Theyve gotta be greedy and invest all their time in created DLC, microtransactions, loot boxes, and season passes to milk their consumer fanbase for more pennies. That's not what gamers need these days. Gamers are struggling from emerging post pandemic. Inflation has hit. Gas prices are way up and people are hurting financially. All of that stuff just listed shows a total disrespect for consumers, hard working consumers

[@notyourmama4166]

All Developers should be required to take a “how to optimize” class from these guys

[@feedogg3946]

😂😂😂

[@184Dadada]

@Transistor Jump It's 100% worth it if you want to have a stellar reputation with gamers... Not worth it to some publishers as they just want the profit asap. That's the main reason many developers ship out half assed games. Not the only reason but ya.

[@184Dadada]

@Transistor Jump And those devs are never gonna be in the "spotlight". Sure, there is an exception to every rule but gaming in general has fallen off a cliff in recent years and delivering a quality product is at the front of the line as to why.

[@184Dadada]

@Transistor Jump Like who exactly? Plenty? I think not. That's why they're "indie devs" lol.

[@184Dadada]

@Transistor Jump Stray was an exceptional game from an indie. I'm not sure you understand what my argument is... I love me a good indie game. To say the gaming world is being flooded by quality indie games would be a crazy persons statement.... We aren't even seeing a decent amount of AAA quality games. I guess I'd ask if you understand what AAA means.

[@IMZ44]

SM studios don't miss or cut corners. You can see the time and effort the devs pulled off. The VA is killing it along with the scoring team. The love is real for Ragnarok.

[@jerm7741]

Definitely better than whatever 343 did

[@TerraWare]

@@jerm7741 While I overall agree I had a blast tearing the Banished up in Infinite. The gameplay is really tight and just like you feel like a badass playing as Kratos I got the same stick your tongue out and demolish enemies feeling.

[@jerm7741]

@@TerraWare Yeah she's really disappointing That's 343 didn't wait an extra year to release. But yeah it feels good to play God of war

[@Elysiabikha]

@@jerm7741 agree and better full game on disk which for me is a plus and ownership

[@ralfsstuff]

Only thing I didn't like about GoW(2018) was the lack of enemy variety. Definitely some cut corners there. Aside from that minor complaint they've been doing amazing work

[@daking6361]

Santa Monica and Insomniac are so impressive with optimizing their games. I loved Rift Apart and this game looks to be amazing as well

[@ToxMod]

Insomniac is better

[@esho6460]

Naughty Dog🎬💯

[@ToxMod]

@@esho6460 stick to the subject at hand

[@esho6460]

@@ToxMod Relax Juanito’

[@radicalthunder5740]

Naughty dog Sonta Monica and Insomniac are the best game devs

[@ThaddeusColeman]

I like this more conversational style of video you guys did for this one. I'll be up for seeing more of this style!

[@bune1961]

This old style DF video! Look for an example at the AC origins review. I love both styles, to be honest, old and new.

[@ThaddeusColeman]

@yello It just felt more like a podcast than just a straight analysis. I like both types, but this felt like a nice change having the two of them just discuss results rather than presenting the results.

[@Yahkahvich]

Just like God of War 2 back in 2007, GoW: Ragnarok is sending out the PS4 with a beautiful swan song.

[@chop46878]

Don’t forget Ascension too for PS3

[@iurigrang]

@@chop46878 I don't think the comparison is as apt for ascension. Ascension was released before the ps4, while both gow 2 and ragnarok where released after the new console releases, but for the old consoles. Both were unimaginable commercial successes and are considered by most the "bench marks" for their generation. No matter what you think of ascension as a game, it did not reach the same kinds of public as the other two.

[@Yahkahvich]

@@chop46878 You're right, 2013 for PS3 GoW: Ascension! I sadly forget about it because of The Last of Us OG 🤩

[@chop46878]

I get what you’re saying, but also you have to remember PS3 had almost no first-party exclusives after PS4 launched, unless you count something like GT6 which was in development for PS3 well before PS4 was known to the public and only came out a month after PS4’s launch. That’s why I used Ascension here, like how many people also consider TLOU as PS3’s swan song as well despite that also coming out months before the PS4.

[@andreatoppi5627]

Callisto Protocol...is also on PS4. And it will run like this, lol. Nobody is sending out PS4

[@K-Lowe]

This game was built for the ps4... it is actually incredible that it runs at 1080p 30fps and looks THAT good

[@Stoddardian]

On a plasma TV it looks even better.

[@LARSTAKA-666]

I really like this type of videos. I actually saw differences on both. Bothe look amazing but it is cool that they add extra things where they can

[@dr.loomis4221]

I remember playing Uncharted 4 on PS4 Pro back in 2016 and thinking "I'd be happy if games looked like this and ran at 60 FPS on new consoles." Here I am with a PS5 and Series X and that is more or less what has happened, and I'm not complaining. Games like GOW Ragnarok and Horizon Forbidden West still blow me away visually while running incredibly well. Unfortunately when games go full current gen, I think we'll see a return to a 30 FPS target.

[@devilduc]

Unfortunattely ? Don't you prefer get a fully next gen visual like we saw in the first UE5 demo at 30 fps than à cross gen look at 60 ?! I mean what is the point to buy New console in this case.PC version already do the trick

[@meowforjasper2838]

@@devilduc I will choose 60fps over 30 any day.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

The good part is 60fps is a design choice. When even horizon can be 60fps despite being open world current gen games can be properly optimized for looking good and running at 60fps on consoles if devs go that route.

[@Nazylexx]

@@devilduc 60 fps is so much better than 30. Games managed to look next gen while sticking to 60 fps and when a game is 30 fps only I blame developers for it (or publisher for not giving enough time to optimize)

[@tyler-hp7oq]

@@Nazylexx Nah, Id rather see consoles pushed to their limits graphically, rather than developers holding back just to hit a 60fps.

[@thesoulfulwanderer8990]

Artistic skill and love of the craft have trumped the latest in graphics. It looks incredible, the story is amazing. 10/10 worth the wait. Sony has a gem of a studio.

[@chad5696]

Appreciate that Santa Monica understand that not everyone can get their hands on a PS5

[@amnril]

@Ramon Andrajo game is currently 94% on metacritic with 126 reviews….. so, it’s clearly not a bad sequel and you are trying to promote another console, one which doesn’t run this game perhaps?

[@edumanga789]

I think that it is not a matter of consideration, but a monetary one. They know that there are not enough ps5 sold in order to be a profitable game.

[@prodj.mixapeofficial6431]

Because that's where the money is.

[@uwusgrufus]

Ps4 should die already

[@ReLapse85]

This would obviously be a producer decision

[@dylanr5384]

Professionally crafted, looking forward to jumping in after work today. Looks damn good on all the consoles and I'm totally happy with the results on the Pro since that's what I'll be playing on.

[@ToxMod]

Professional washed out color

[@anasevi9456]

@@ToxMod someone's buthurt they got fleeced by a scalper.

[@beardalaxy]

Really great news! I was hoping that this is the approach they took, considering there are way more PS4s out there than PS5s at the moment and this was a heavily anticipated game. I'm not personally into the game, but it's good knowing my roommate who only has a PS4 will have a good time with it :) That motion blur implementation is actually incredible, that might be the smoothest 30 FPS I've ever seen.

[@DrJones20]

Not my type of game either, never found the hack and slash genre appealing.

[@beardalaxy]

@@DrJones20 i like the original god of war games because it's ALL hack and slash. there's almost too much complexity in the new ones, in the story, the gameplay, the upgrade paths, etc. it is a technical improvement in every way, but the gameplay loop is quite different from the originals and just not my kind of thing.

[@DrJones20]

@@beardalaxy Oh, opposite reason then.

[@beardalaxy]

@yello i like when a game is fast-paced and simple in its design, but it lets you explore a lot with the core mechanics. different strokes for different folks!

[@DrJones20]

@yello Hey I saw your original comment man! Rude! Anyway yeah, the new games have a lot of new gameplay elements added to them

[@joon-young9589]

no wonder rd2 still looks amazing on the old consoles. It too is mostly handcrafted; the world, the characters , etc. loved gow ragnarock; looking forward to where the series takes us next

[@NN010]

Great news that Ragnarok is a great experience no matter what system you have. It's interesting that Santa Monica decided to make Ragnarok for the PS4 first & foremost and just make some mostly subtle enhancements on PS5 whereas with Horizon Forbidden West from what I've seen of the PS4 version it seems like Guerilla prioritized making a PS5 showcase that could still run on PS4, but not without some more obvious compromises (the LOD and asset loading issues in cutscenes & certain cutscenes like the opening credits being pre-rendered video files being the ones that stuck out to me when watching DF's comparison video). Still need to play through God of War (2018) though...

[@pegasusactua2985]

Horizon Forbidden West started as a PS4 title first and foremost and when development was taking longer than expected they were basically like "eh what the hell make a PS5 version by upping the texture quality".

[@Shaker1000]

2018 isn't too bad at all. Give it a try!

[@NN010]

@@Shaker1000 I know! It’s in my backlog. Problem is that ever since I finished Fire Emblem: Three Houses back in 2020 I’ve been on a JRPG kick. It also doesn’t help that I’ve been playing a lot of Final Fantasy XIV & Modern Warfare II as of late. But hopefully once I’ve finally finished Forbidden West or Plague Tale Requiem I’ll start God of War (2018). I do love great story & storytelling in games, so God of War (2018) should be right up my alley.

[@intergalactickoala665]

While a part of me would love for it to have been a PS5 exclusive (thus seeing Santa Monica pushing boundaries even more), I can't help but admire the devs for wanting to finish the Norse Saga where it started, all while doing for the PS4 what The Last of Us did for PS3 - leaving me stunned at what can still be done on an older machine.

[@travisspazz1624]

Yeah their eventually PS5 exclusive is gonna look insane!

[@MapleEmpire]

@@ramonandrajo6348 so being ASLEEP is better?

[@travisspazz1624]

@@ramonandrajo6348 you just sold me even more on the game!

[@intergalactickoala665]

@@ramonandrajo6348 Back under your bridge, foul thing, lest the sun turn thee to stone!

[@Mattened]

@@travisspazz1624 lol no

[@IMan_93_]

Santa Monica is truly incredible. The standard that has been set for PS Studios AAA games is absolutely amazing.

[@lordmaster2562]

Hahaha lol

[@mastadope397]

They really are simply the best heck about 2 years in and Xbox still hasn't gotten a banger out

[@IMan_93_]

@@lordmaster2562 Looking at your comments you’re just a pathetic console fanboy 😂 Get a life dude

[@geraldroof1481]

@@ramonandrajo6348 Have you seen the team behind it? It’s hard to expect anything less.

[@bryankowalczyk3982]

@@lordmaster2562 laughing but you're actually dying inside. U talk about Xbox being so powerful all the time in previous comments, yet power for what? Pentiment? LMAO 😂

[@BrianM78]

It's a pretty awesome experience, so far.

[@TheKlyn10]

Just started playing on the standard PS4 about 2hrs ago. And it has been glitch and stutterfree for sure. The graphics quality is noticeably better than the 2018, but it's not too different. It's just 30fps but with no stutters or framedrops, so I've had no problems with the combat so far. Just the inherent input lag from the controllers themselves. Which makes parrying a little tricky. But the gameplay is slightly more refined than the previous game. I haven't played far enough to try out any new stuff, but the old stuff is still crisp and smooth. I'd definitely recommend getting it on the standard PS4 if you had any doubts about the performance. Basically it plays exactly like the last game on the PS4, performance wise.

[@TheKlyn10]

@@HondaWanderer learn what input lag is. And also learn about Bluetooth input lag. And the limitation of low framerate, one of which is also, you guessed it, input lag.

[@duckemwithbleach]

@@HondaWanderer ur tripping the ps4 controller has a sht ton of delay

[@AvaaSlays_Swiftie]

Idk how anyone is surprised the level of detail they got out of the ps4 when we’ve seen this kind of work at the end of ps3 life cycle. It was developed for ps4 and then 10 bucks gets you your better options to make the game look a little better on ps5. Hopefully next god of war is full blown next gen game.

[@GodofWarChuka]

They look the same on PS4 Pro and PS5. But I’m picking up the PS5 version today! Thanks for Not posting Spoilers yet! 👍

[@gavinderulo12]

They posted a rather big spoiler in their first video imo.

[@extremegamercollector425]

I think it nailed everything it was going for I absolutely loved the ending love what they did with the characters. Amazing boss fights way better than 2018 boss fights. Imo one of the best games ever made. Definitely my goty

[@BlueLionsTVNiiNiiFC]

Its a cross gen game, built on last gen infrastructure. Its no surprise. Cross gen periods always show the full potential of last gen systems When they continue the series ( not finished the game yet, dont spoil anything ), we will truly see what a next gen god of war will look like. That fully takes advantage of the SSD, etc. This game is not true reflection of what PS5 can do, this vid makes it obvious. Can't wait to see what a PS5 GoW will look like

[@MoonSarito]

They really broke all PS4 barriers with this game, without a doubt in my opinion it is the most visually impressive game of the eighth generation of consoles. They even put a performance mode on the PS4 Pro that I didn't expect at all, this game really feels like a farewell to a generation with a golden key.

[@Miguel_Noether]

I would have loved to see a full next gen experience

[@joshosborne2008]

*current gen. Stop saying next gen, were approaching two years with these current gen consoles

[@JoeMama-ty6be]

@@joshosborne2008 yet games are still stuck in last gen

[@chadmann132]

@@joshosborne2008 *next gen, simply because we're still getting last gen experiences

[@omarhegab]

@@joshosborne2008 In all honesty, I will keep on calling those consoles next-gen until I see something that really wows me that is specifically made for them.

[@JamieRobert_]

Never gonna happen due to hardware limitations

[@zoltankotolacsi6892]

This is what happens when developers are given the time and resources to make PORTS. Watching this game in motion on a PS4 and Pro honestly feels like black magic to me. It looks astounding. I am so happy that I will be able to finish this part of the Norse saga on PS4 as well.

[@KenMathis1]

GoW: Ragnarok isn't a port to the PS4 and PS4 Pro. They were the target platforms. If anything, the PS5 version is the port, which is why it doesn't look much different.

[@ralfzimmermann5352]

It is not a port, it is basically a PS4 game that is sold at a higher price to PS5 owners.

[@taffpower1]

"Watching this game in motion on a PS4 and Pro honestly feels like black magic to me" high level.....

[@Ownage4lif31]

I'm pretty sure the ps5 sdk is almost the same as the ps4 ask so it wouldn't have taken much effort to port it over anyway. Since ps5 can run ps4 games, they've pretty much kept the majority of the sdk the same with probably a few changes and upgrades for raytracing, 4k, 8k and the few things like that.

[@imo098765]

Its God of War 2018 and then they added features like the PC version of 2018 had for the PS5 version, with other improvements but its not a miracle or black magic we saw this 4 years ago

[@arnab9933]

The only difference I experienced playing the game last night on both PS4 and PS5, is that the game loads much, much quicker on PS5 (no surprise there) and has little to no texture loading issues (a la HFW), PS4 on the other hand has a few texture and asset rendering issues, when traveling to and from between different zones, but overall, its a pretty stable, and visually impressive experience on both consoles.

[@Coldsilfur4]

You bought it two times? Playing the PS4 Version on PS5 wont give you the PS5 graphics upgrade..

[@Mr-th9vh]

@@Coldsilfur4 it's cross gen on digital,you get PS4 and 5 versions.

[@Coldsilfur4]

@@Mr-th9vh i dont buy digitally

[@ajsingh4545]

@@Coldsilfur4 yeah same....i like to own my games

[@Zappaisgod4983]

@@Coldsilfur4 putting the ps4 disc into a ps5 allows you to download the ps5 version from the store.

[@jasonportillo]

Crazy how good it is across the board

[@franzkuntschnig1320]

This game looks insane. If you look ingame at Kratos Face - the wrinkles - it’s simply looks so good

[@13nohead]

I can't believe how great it looks and runs on base ps4

[@gustavocustodio9186]

What a great video! Thanks Digital Foundry

[@xOogieBoogie3x]

On a 27" 1440p monitor it looks great on PS4 Pro. I'm also running a SATA III SSD, load times are quick, and I'm actually getting 60FPS in a lot of instances in performance mode. The texture streaming is far more fluid, and thus fewer stutters related to frame times.

[@aCiDzZ123]

DF should also test this!

[@snchez2106]

Yeah SSD are amazing, either for PC or consoles, their speeds help tremendously in any game, also as you said due to the storage unit having to work less, frametimes are indeed improved.

[@xOogieBoogie3x]

@@aCiDzZ123 turned out to be good future proofing. I was actually surprised that the PS4 Pro launched with an HDD over an SSD. I installed it in May 2020 and I've had great experiences with all of the PS exclusives I've played. All of the games I've wanted are cross-gen, so there's been no rush to get a PS5. The Last of Us: Part 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Dreams, Horizon: Forbidden West, and God of War all run great on the upgraded Pro. An interesting caveat; my monitor detects a 2160p RGB format since 1440p isn't supported natively on PS4 Pro for some reason. So in most games it's rendering at whatever the native resolution of the game is, and then down-sampling to 1440p. Typically it's checkerboard 4K or 1800-1650p, which scaled to 1440p looks really clean, especially on a 27" screen.

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

The fact that it looks so good on PS4 and the framerate is so consistent on it, I CANNOT wait to play it on my Steam Deck in a year or so! :D

[@everythinggaming_tv9163]

2-4 yrs maybe

[@shakengandulf]

Should be good on steamdeck but i highly doubt anything around a year. I reckon 2 minimum.

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

@@shakengandulf My guess is maybe febr 2024.

[@jebalitabb8228]

@@everythinggaming_tv9163 Nah sony is smarter than that, with how many people like me bought every exclusive from days gone to spiderman to god of war the day they came on steam, they would be losing money now not to release them sooner

[@Frydo]

@@jebalitabb8228 True, PC market is still huge. GoW (2018) Sold 2 million copies in just a month and that is alot, whem you think about how many played it on PS4 first. They sold 5 million on PS4 the first month. Horizon sold 716k first month on PC. The funny thing is GoW generated 500 mill $ in the first 10 months, CoD MW (2018) generated 600 mill $ in 3 days. Console excluisives mean shit, and should not exist. So if Sony is smart, they should stop with exlusives. Its not the exlusives that sell consoles either way. And they are still loosing money with every console they sell.

[@wile123456]

The snow in this game is the sexiest snow I've ever seen in any videogame

[@BeierFilms]

8:15: Having higher resolutions lead to less background really bugs me in certain games; especially because it's the opposite of the cinema-like visuals they're trying to emulate. On celluloid film, you increase the "resolution" by using a larger film stock which in turn, makes the depth of field more shallow. So something like 16mm has less detail and sharper out of focus elements than 35mm (with the same comparison being true of 35mm to 70mm). With digital cinema sensors have a bit more variability but, in general, you get more detail/resolution from larger sensors which once again have a more shallow DoF.

[@jakej722]

Really impressive stuff. Games still look phenomenal on base PS4.

[@wileymanful]

I enjoyed this game on PS5 but the fact a game this good looking runs at a stable frame-rate at 1080p on a 9 year old console that was 400 dollars is incredibly impressive.

[@권용대-b5v]

As a PS4 owner this is a very good news. Still, I wish we could see more games providing PS5 experience after Ragnarok.

[@florinraileanu4300]

When you find out that these guys created such a crafted game under almost 2 years of COVID working from home etc....Such a talented Studio!!!Bravo Santa Monica Studio

[@taramjwi57]

Definitely recommending this to the friend I gave my ps4 pro too. Glad it's holding up on the old consoles, and I'm even happier about how it's looks and runs on the ps5. Got my oled just in time to experience this!

[@ezzahhh]

I for one hate change of any kind and truly appreciate the hard work the developers put in to ensure that the visual fidelity, design, textures, gameplay and especially how exact the animations are especially the ones of jumping in and out the boat have remained almost identical from four years ago. Really warms the cockles of my heart.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

They literally reused all of kratos animations from the 4 and a half year old game. Yikes.

[@MikeOcksmallClips]

If you hate change you are useless and will be left behind

[@szaman4180]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe why improve something that doesn't need to be improved?

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@szaman4180 it's lazy slop!. God of bore Yawnrock.

[@teddyholiday8038]

Do people prefer the locked 60, 1800p+ performance mode or the 1440, 80+ FPS VRR performance mode?

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Locked 60 mode. And I'm HUGE on the 40 fps modes of other games and even played all of horizon fw in 30 fps because rhe 60 fps mode looked horrible at launch but this game barely looks any better AT ALL at 30 or 40 fps so 60 fps is a no Brainer in this

[@joshosborne2008]

1440p, 80fps+ VRR mode is the way I'm playing

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@joshosborne2008 useless. It's much better locked at 60. 1440p is the only mode that looks noticeably worse

[@jamie1539]

1440p, 80+ performance mode

[@teddyholiday8038]

@@joshosborne2008 I keep switching back and forth and can’t decide. The 60fps lock mode is a bit clearer on my OLED but the 80+ unlocked mode is noticeably more responsive…

[@borisglaser6972]

Why didn’t you show the frames performance in the different grafik settings on the ps5? What about the120/40 hz mode? What about vrr? I‘m disappointed.

[@thebandit1x7]

I love these comparison videos

[@ToxMod]

Wrong

[@bearpuns5910]

The hilarious thing is that Ragnarok actually runs *better* than GoW 2018 did. That game was also 1080p 30, but would dip much harder

[@vince_x_san]

I knew it, i was actually right and my parent's were wrong

[@kingdude1999]

I'm glad that it's available on PS4. Say what you will, but where I live, you still can't walk into any store like Target, Wal-Mart, or Best Buy & pick up a PS5. But you can get a Series X. So it's smart for them to continue to make it playable on the PS4 & PS4 Pro. Hopefully one day in the not too far distant future - the PS5 will be a reality & not just a myth for the regular consumer.

[@joshsfox6266]

I'm glad it is too. I got a Series X but I haven't bought PS5 yet. I think I'm going to play this and Horizon on PS4 Pro.

[@randomgamer19170]

Yea Sony shoulda made it run on PS3 too, remember not everyone can afford the ps4 like you

[@GreatPharaohYT]

@@randomgamer19170 as if getting a ps5 instead of ps4 (even at launch) is the exact same thing. PS4 was 100$ cheaper than the disk version of ps5 and that’s only by comparing the official prices these consoles were announced at by Sony themselves. Besides, I think the op is taking about the availability rather than affordability.

[@randomgamer19170]

@@GreatPharaohYTps5 is available to just walk into to Walmart and buy off the shelf these days and even online most days it’s not hard at all. It’s greedy Sony wanting money from all the PS4 owners and it’s holding back generations of the ps5 and actually hurting ps5 sales too

[@GreatPharaohYT]

@@randomgamer19170 not everyone lives in the US you know, where I live there’s no such thing as walking into a store and buying a ps5 as if there’s no problem at all, Sony is a company and it makes sense why they’ll do whatever they can to increase their profits, that’s why ps4 is still getting first party releases. Also it’s not that simple to dump ps4 and fully focus on ps5 since there’s a lot of people still using a ps4 and if Sony were to discontinue it, it would only harm their sales, killing off consoles like that isn’t as easy as you might think.

[@PantherCrane]

@14:52 Whatever happened to the SSD “No loading/instant gameplay”?

[@riceeater79]

What happened to Xbox game drought being over?

[@pedrofernandese]

It's amazing to see PS4 running so well a new game like this, I have a PS4, and usually I play my games on PC, but this one I think I'm gonna buy it.

[@o_KingOfKings_o]

You could jailbreak your ps4 if you really don’t play online, my ps4 is jailbreak and I can play whatever Lol , but yeah you need version 9.00

[@pedrofernandese]

@@o_KingOfKings_o Naahhh, I don't have patience and knowledge to jailbreak the console, I like to download the game and play it, simple like that.

[@scorpian007]

Played about 4 hours on PS5 last night, you can tell it's very much a PS4 game. Whilst the visuals are great, they're not pushing the envelope and some of the gameplay is very rooted in PS4 design. Enjoying it though, the writing is top notch so far.

[@travisspazz1624]

So basically it's the best looking game on PS4.

[@bryankowalczyk3982]

Meaning better looking then any series X game 😂😂

[@esho6460]

@@bryankowalczyk3982 I’ve got a ps5 and an Series X and when it comes down to it both consoles perform identical in 3rd party games. Sony has always been known to focus more on single player exclusives while Xbox goes for multiplayer. Sony been killing it these last couple years but 2023 is shaping up to be Xbox’s year. Starfield, Redfall, Fable, Stalker 2, Forza Motorsport, Hellblade 2. It’s about to be ridiculous

[@ajsingh4545]

Demons souls remake says hi

[@travisspazz1624]

@@ajsingh4545 that's PS5!

[@aquaglow1]

That title probably goes to Red Dead Redemption 2

[@lalitasharma6687]

Love it when developers consider the people like me who own ps4

[@k.23_02]

This is good for the people on PS4 I guess but seriously what is even the point in having a PS5 when pretty much all the games on there are only slight upgrades compared to PS4. When will these next gen systems finally start using the extra power to it's advantage so that the games look noticeably better than last gen games?

[@tyler-hp7oq]

When the majority of gamers upgrade. Covid pushed everything back at least two years. Probably won't see actual next-gen games until 2024.

[@kylerclarke2689]

agreed. I think in three years the PS5 will make a bit more sense. Right now, ps4 is still fine if you don't need cutting-edge fidelity, and if you do... just buy a PC and wait for the inevitable port

[@InternetMouse]

Gotta say, im really happy to see games actually having the full game on launch day and disc as well working very well on their respective consoles. Looking at you call of duty modern warfare 2022 , saints row 2022 and gotham knights

[@MyGoToUserName]

29-30fps is a deal killer for me now having adjusted to 60fps as a standard. Performance mode pros outweigh very minor hit to details.

[@ennox_eniu]

Just played witcher 3 update on ps5, and the lighting on ray tracing mode looks great, but the 60 fps mode makes the game play 100times smoother and game still looks great.

[@kejarebi]

40 FPS modes with VRR for these cinematic type games are fantastic as well, nice to see them popping up.

[@OldBloodRKR626]

Apparently you don't have a PS4 pro

[@stevenlornie1261]

Don't get use to it. Stupid expectations.

[@opgam3r482]

@11:45 can you elaborate on that? Are we better off playing the ps4 app on p5? for 60fps/4k? Confused

[@sumitupadhayay2270]

Is Alex gonna cover the RT and AA upgrades for Forza 5?

[@TheGebs24]

The quality in base models is astounding.

[@MattyFreedom]

GoW 2018 running at 60fps is still one of the best looking games on PS5. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed that 2 years in and I'm seeing very little difference between PS4 and PS5 version of Ragnarok though. Love the PS5 to bits, but feels like we are still waiting for the true wow factor games that set the generation apart.

[@axolotl_502]

That's the problem, people still waiting for revolutionary visuals in a era where the ceiling of graphics don't see so far away and studios pursuing that ceiling instead of good story/character building

[@Prototypelife19999]

Agreed demons souls looks way better to me

[@someguy9204]

Well, the law of diminishing returns plays a role here. PS3 to PS4 was not as big of a leap as PS2 to PS3. And now PS4 to PS5 seems like an even smaller leap. With every generation, the differences will seem smaller. Personally I'm just glad we're finally getting 60fps as an option on most titles

[@Crimsongz]

PS4 Pro Plus should be the name of the PS5 currently 😢

[@-Cipher--]

To be fair thats the way it was going from PS3 to the first PS4 games. The massive jump we saw from PS1 - 2 just doesn't exist anymore. The improvements are going to be gradual from here on out.

[@konstantine_c]

The fact that this AAAA game looks so good and runs so well on the launch model PS4 is simply incredible. Goes to show you that when a game is well optimized, it doesn't need the newest hardware. Thank you for the analysis.

[@braedonlock3359]

How come you did the ps4/ps4pro performance, but not the ps5? Especially in the unlocked 120hz mode. Was really curious to see how close to 120 you get.

[@callumdointhings5]

They released a video specifically for the PS5 version

[@NN010]

That's probably because that PS5 performance analysis is in their other God of War Ragnarok video that's already up on the channel. Be forewarned that it seems like there are some moderate spoilers in that video though.

[@mazda9624]

It's crazy that watching this video on mobile the PS4 and PS5 versions look nearly identical

[@nightowl3582]

I had the same reaction to TLoU 2, like this game, that game had no right looking as good as it did on a base PS4.

[@saphireg8094]

Sony absolutely kills it with their exclusives, so much love and skill poured into every project for sure!

[@Stoddardian]

It came out before the PS5 came out though. But yes, you're 100% right. What made the game look even better was the fact that I played that game on a plasma, which made the 30 FPS look a lot smoother.

[@thomaspost5089]

Wait can you still get adreus golden armor on ps4?? 4:52

[@DonHaci]

20 seconds to fast travel on a PS5 is a joke

[@goldmemberpb]

I love that on the ps5 version, loading from death is just 2 secs and half of that is the transition screen to gameplay. That alone make playing on GMGoW mode so much less of a hassle. Cold boot to the game is barely 10 secs if that.

[@tangentciel]

When a studio wants to do it can do it! PlayStation studios do a very good job and really master consoles

[@nicolasgrangeonhandpanandd514]

I play it on Ps5, in performance mode with vrr and 120hertz mode, the sharpness is amazing, and the fluidity insane.

[@blakecandesign9628]

Sony’s first party studios are legit the best in class, it’s amazing to see what they pull off! Such a stunning line up… Santa Monica + Insomniac + Naughty Dog + Guerrilla Games + Bluepoint 😮

[@VariantAEC]

Sucker Punch, Team Asobi and Housemarqe too. Basically every dev PlayStation has is golden.

[@blakecandesign9628]

@@VariantAEC True!

[@romeovoid]

I purchased the ps5 disc edition to avoid having to download game data (outside of say, the day 1 patch). I inserted the disc for the first time and now the ps5 is reporting a 10 hour wait as data is 'downloaded' ... what's the purpose of buying physical media if one still has to endure a lengthy download. And even more important, will I be able to re-install the game from disc years later and be able to play the game without downloading additional data. Any thoughts?

[@dmo848]

U do but you don't if you have no Internet. Try it you'll see the difference.. Only if you want updates. The disk is still King and always will be

[@antony6297]

I wish they had made a version pushing the ps5 to the max, no doubt we will get a remastered version for ps5 for more money.

[@Coldsilfur4]

The ps5 version is already a remaster.. what do you want to remaster on these crisp textures?

[@WaffleCake]

People have been saying for years that gaming peaked in the PS2 generation, I can already smell it being said of the PS4 generation with regard to graphics.

[@randomgamer19170]

Now just imagine if it was a PS5 exclusive like we were promised when Sony said they believe in generations

[@MikeOcksmallClips]

A company lied? No way!

[@HisFlynessSTU2]

Why do you guys still call it cross gen? It’s one game that is able to be played on multiple hardware configurations with various settings and resolutions. There’s no “gen” here to be mentioned, it’s exactly how PC gaming has been for a very long time, and will be from both Microsoft and Sony going forward.

[@jediknight2089]

The fact that Sony Santa Monica Studios was able to make a ps4 game look this phenomenal is a testament to their technical wizardry. I can’t wait to see what this talented development team does with a ps5 exclusive that’s built from the ground up.

[@eucri]

I'm really glad this runs so well on a PS4, now I don't have to wait years for it to come to PC!

[@WAstEDxLaMA]

While I am very happy with the finished product (I’m on PS5), I still can’t help but wonder when this whole weird, extended period of cross-gen is going to be over with. It would have been nice to see a truly “next-gen” GoW game built from the ground up for the PS5

[@rosstee]

I'm sure you will, sometime before the PS6. But this was developed as a PS4 game first and foremost, as they say in the video.

[@christianhaase1181]

There is a part of me that wonders if a piece of the decision to make the differences small and subtle is so they can sell the upgraded version in a year or some. It would be a solid business tactic, if so.

[@equinoxXIII]

I do think this will be the last PS exclusive for last-gen, I hope.

[@emildimov8955]

This was said for The Last Of Us Part 2 and was speculated for Horizon 2. Let's hope you are right.

[@equinoxXIII]

@@emildimov8955 It was probably because of the PS5 shortages.

[@drummer7557]

Actually no it's because there are about 118 million PS4 owners, and the systems still sell. Also not everyone cares about graphics, they just want to play the game. I had a Ps5 and thought it was way overhyped. So I just kept my PS4 Pro which is fine and bought a Series X, which is much better imo, especially the BC. PS5 BC games look awful, very little in the way of enhancements. Also PS5 doesn't support games that run at 1440p on a 4K screen, so what's the point? Since many run at that resolution, at 60FPS.

[@equinoxXIII]

@@drummer7557 PS5 games look awful? What the hell are you talking about? Have you seen Horizon forbidden west because it's most beautiful game of 2022. I can already see you are an devoted Xbox player if you say that PS5 games are bad.

[@ot9523]

@@drummer7557stop lying lol I’ve got a Xbox series X and a ps5 disc version and the graphics basically look the same but the ps5 has a better controller and i just prefer it since the xbox has nothing new games wise and it just feels like a more powerful Xbox one lol

[@AlmostLikeHuman]

Platinum'd the game on a stock PS4 and didn't feel like I was getting a cut-back or somehow inferior experience at any point. Absolutely amazing work, Sony exclusives continue to amaze!

[@guitarzilla555]

PS5 delivers flawless 60 fps, that alone makes it a substantial upgrade. Plus those lighting effects at 16:14, and 40 fps mode for 120 Hz displays 😍

[@charzard1404]

As someone who owns a PS5 who enjoys this game with friends with a PS4 I’m really glad that they took this route. Norse saga started with last gen and they didn’t leave fans behind. Kudos to Santa Monica!

[@thedude8128]

really enjoying this game right now. cutting the enemies in different quarters is amazing 😂 Kratos is BRUTAL!

[@Quake2815]

@@ramonandrajo6348 get a life

[@stephonhines6554]

@@ramonandrajo6348 racist

[@ludvig2733]

I am Playing This game on a ps5 and loving it so far! However, i am using a 1440p monitor and i wonder How god of war ragnarok handles 1440p output with the new (relatively) ps5 Update. Im Playing on performance mode. Does the game still upscale to 4K and then downscale to 1440p or does it only downscale to 1440p? Would i see a Graphical improvement from going from 4K to 1440p on my 1440p monitor?

[@techsamurai11]

Ps5 didn't offer 1440p output until recently but now it does. Is your PS5 set to 1440p output? A monitor can't apply any processing. A TV can apply processing. A QD OLED TV would be the best, the next best thing is a Sony TV (even with the lack of a game optimizer). The difference in picture quality between a Sony TV and another TV is nearly comparable to the difference between the PS5 and the PS4 in this game.

[@ludvig2733]

@@techsamurai11 my ps5 is set to display 4K. I was under the impression that the game would render at 1880p ish and use some kind of Internal upscaler to 4K, then downscale to 1080p where my monitor would again upscale it to 1440p i might be completely wrong though. Im just curious if i should set the display to 4K or 1440p when i am using a 1440p monitor

[@ludvig2733]

Might Seem obvious that i should set it to 1440p when that is my native resolution but maybe 4K output would still in the end yield a better result

[@techsamurai11]

@@ludvig2733That's a good question - I would assume that you'd want to match the console and monitor resolution to match but I would just test it to see what happens. You'll probably see no difference.

[@PositronCannon]

@@ludvig2733 If your PS5 is set to 4K, that means your monitor accepts a 4K input and downscales it to its native 1440p display resolution. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to select 4K at all, as it would be incompatible with the monitor. Since the console's output resolution doesn't affect the rendering resolution of the game, there probably won't be much difference between 1440p and 4K output in your case. The only thing that changes is where the downscaling to 1440p is done, whether by the PS5 itself or by the monitor. I'd choose the former (meaning setting output to 1440p), but it probably won't matter much if at all.

[@SiguredWill]

Great video but for some reason my base PS4 version runs choppy as all hell... If I had to stick an fps number to it it honestly runs between 15-25 fps.... Any ideas guys? Waited 4 years (probably like all of us) for this and it's such a bummer....

[@Solegor]

Oh wow that’s unexpected. I would suggest to disassemble the console, there is probably massive buildup of dust on the fan which makes the console throttle. If that doesn’t help, try to change thermal paste on the main chip - it may have dried up over the years. Other option would be to format/initialise the console - maybe there are some files/processes clogging up the console (and in general keep at least 60-100 gb free on the console, never fill the hard drive to the brim). But I would start with cleaning up your system from the dust first. Cheers and hope it helps

[@Maxarasta]

What a nice video, honest precise and all!

[@samgao]

Can’t wait for this to come out in PC!!!

[@princephillip1481]

Hahaha I bet. 😁

[@lirycline6646]

@@ramonandrajo6348 bot

[@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073]

In 3 years

[@samgao]

@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 not gonna break any NDA’s, but a sooner than later 🫢

[@gavinderulo12]

@@samgao earliest 2 years.

[@cedarvalleygaming]

I had concerns about picking this up for my PS4 but not any more. Thank you for making this video!

[@tonytigeer]

thank you for doing this comparison because it still a pain to find a PS5 to purchase and Im glad my good old PS4 will do fine

[@FelixS.]

I don’t know where you live but in Germany there are always bundles in store at Amazon and comparable big online store. Still people are crying as if it were hard to buy one.

[@Woodland_Creek]

It's great that it looks and runs good on the last gen consoles but at the same time it feels like I'm not getting anything new of my PS5 other than load times and frame rate

[@chrisbullock6477]

I don't know John but this makes me crave a new Ninja Theory "Heavenly Sword" game.

[@harryswan8990]

It's never going happen unfortunately sony owns the ip and xbox owns the studio

[@phelype211]

It's unbelievable how base PS4 with a HD 7850 GPU based can run so perfectly at rock solid 30 FPS with such amazing graphics...

[@princephillip1481]

Absolutely amazing..Sony clearly has the best 1st party studios. Great job SMS 👍

[@princephillip1481]

@@ramonandrajo6348 Man stop with "Woke" BS, GOW:Ragnarök will be GOTY!! 2022. 💯🙌 Deal with IT. 🤣 Now sit yo ass down.

[@lemming9984]

@@ramonandrajo6348 I'm as anti-Woke as you can get, but how is this game Woke?

[@bryankowalczyk3982]

@@lemming9984 he's replying to every msg he's a salty PC or Xbox fanboy

[@lemming9984]

@@bryankowalczyk3982 Yeah, just noticed that. A sad, tragic Juvenile with PS envy! (probably penis-envy too!!)

[@bruce3324]

@@bryankowalczyk3982 but I'm not ..ps5 owner I'm 8 hours into it , the things you'd expect to be cool are there and it's awesome but I can the see the woke sh it all around it story wise . pretending it's not there is just stu pid

[@n0pe_7]

Normally i buy ps5 games used a few months after release But this deserves support. So im gettin it in store

[@navpreetsingh8156]

It's one of the best games of the year but clearly its a PS4 title if the differences are so small which is a little disappointing as we are still not pushing the PS5, anyway mine arrives Friday

[@TheLee153]

There isn't enough PS5s in circulation to justify leaving the PS4 out yet. Maybe next time.

[@navpreetsingh8156]

​@@TheLee153 no not leave it out, I went from PS4 pro to PS5 and I can play this on my PS4 pro with no visual difference, they have got to give us more of anything or it seems like a waste of power and money, I'm not knocking the game, just their effort level to make the PS5 version standout

[@alaa341g]

​​@@navpreetsingh8156 you can't create 2 different games , thats why we saw devs complaining about xbox series s , ppl was saying : yeah just create one good version and downgrade it to series s , but in reality they can't its too hard , so the only option is to create it to the weaker hardware then trying to upscale it , but that will not make the strong hardware sweat cuz rhe game wasn't developped for it , this is the case we're seeing here , its either make it ps5 exclu and create a hell of graphics but not gaining a loooot of money , or trying to make the best possible game that run on both consoles and get moooore money

[@navpreetsingh8156]

@@alaa341g this is why you make it for pc and then downgrade it for consoles, best way

[@mandrews6282]

Honestly the fact that this is a PS4 game at it’s heart is why we get much higher fps and resolution in certain modes. So there is that. If they pushed the PS5 visually and it only hit 30 fps, people would complain about that as well. It is also a great swan song game for PS4 at the end of it’s cycle, and it still looks stunning even if it’s not ‘officially’ a PS5 title.

[@rodneyabrett]

I'm playing this game the same way I played the 2018 release. On a lowly base PS4. Still looks and feels great.

[@AntonioLexanTeh]

Can't wait for the PC version 😍

[@jenishmaharjan9655]

Be seein ya in 3 years 😆😆

[@SDSOverfiend]

So basically PS4 is the Potato that Sony PR team tried to make the Series S turn out to be.

[@Ant-Toni31]

Its a game made for the Ps4 then ported to the Ps5 hence the minimal difference in terms of graphical quality

[@alf3052]

Of course you guys would have to the exact video I'm looking for... Great job team¡!