The size of the Kelvin timeline ships are ridiculous
@vic50157 ай бұрын
They were made to look good on high res HD movie screens. Plain abd simple.
@aaronbryant80747 ай бұрын
@@vic5015 Looking good in high res has nothing to do with the ridiculous size they chose for each ship to be. X-wings still look fine in high res and didn't need to be larger to look good
@FS2K4Pilot7 ай бұрын
They don’t even look good.
@IchigoKurosakicool7 ай бұрын
@@FS2K4Pilot they do, they look majestic.
@carador92867 ай бұрын
@@IchigoKurosakicool Galaxy class looks majestic. Crossfield class certainly doesn't, and Universe class looks like a mistake.
@matthewsalazar35757 ай бұрын
I have a problem using JJ Abrams ships for this because they are not in the Prime Timeline. While still Star Trek in nature, it’s comparing apples to oranges.
@carador92867 ай бұрын
I agree, but I think we'll have to get used to both timelines getting mixed up. Apart from channels that deal specifically with Star Trek or SciFi, nobody will care about the differences.
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
It´s Star Trek. Period. Don´t hear you complaining about other instances of "not the Prime Timeline" - which happened literally from TOS onward. Remember, a different "universe" in this context is nothing more than a variation of decisions and events, aka a different timeline.
@CaveManJohnCarter6 ай бұрын
But discovery ?.. at least Abrams has his own timeline.... discovery is the only star trek I will never watch, I tried, but when the ship wasn't just out of place, then it started spinning and disappearing and wtf was all that about..... discovery has no place,.. I have respect for Abrams 🤘✌️🖖
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
@@CaveManJohnCarter Maybe that´s too... difficult... for you? Discovery has it´s rough edges but it, like all Trek series, mostly got better over time. Also "Spore Drive" are the words you were looking for. Not any crazier than warp drives, transwarp and interdimensional rifts.
@haku73356 ай бұрын
@@robertmandl9326it spins like a pedal on my bike. It looks setisfying, but its not as cool as a warp drive. I don like it
@BlackSkull19843 ай бұрын
Vengeance: Im the biggest Starship around here Enterprise-J: hi! Vengeance: i take it back :_D
@monsterlord83277 ай бұрын
Should rename it to longest ships...
@brentbartley68387 ай бұрын
True though that really only applies to the Crossfield class, JJ Enterprise and maybe Sovereign (she was still big for her time but definitely out massed by the Galaxy variants and especially the Odyssey class.
@Stopdeletingmycomments6 ай бұрын
@@brentbartley6838 My guy the Galaxy is bigger than the 3 ships after it in terms of tonnage and surface area
@trazyntheinfinite989522 күн бұрын
Why we counting nacelles even.... the vesta is ridiculous. Long does not equal big...
@Strato1317 күн бұрын
For real..Kinda misleading title, but a good video nonetheless.
@RobotoMA7 ай бұрын
There are a lot of errors in there. The Galaxy class isn't that small compared to the enterprise E. And comparing Kelvin timeline ships with prime is difficult.
@cyborgbadger10157 ай бұрын
The E is longer but actually a much lighter tonnage than the galaxy as it is a lot slimmer. It was from what I read the replacement for the Excelsior .
@RobotoMA6 ай бұрын
but not that much longer. The D is 645 meters and the E is 685 meters and because the saucer of the D is so wide, the D appears larger despite the few meters less.
@cyborgbadger10156 ай бұрын
@@RobotoMA the D is also has a much greater tonnage than the E
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
Especially with that bigass saucer section. lmao
@devinflint55546 ай бұрын
Half of these ships are stretching the limits of what's considered canonical anyway.
@cw50817 ай бұрын
Nice try, but a little more fact checking would have been in order.
@lesilestivany78396 ай бұрын
The AI commentator didn't do it's homework on Star trek 🤔😳😂😂
@HammerJammer816 ай бұрын
This is obviously a length based evaluation as the Galaxy class had more volume than some of the others
@SmokePoppa5 ай бұрын
Clearly this was made by someone who spends a lot of time defending their #2 pencil vs a Magnum Sharpie.
@simplysteve684 ай бұрын
@@SmokePoppasounds like "they're compensating 👉______👈❌🤏✅ for something, eh?" Lol 🤭😆😂🤣
@retluoc6 ай бұрын
The Crossfield class. Do a search for Searvin with Captain Lorca. (I couldn't stop laughing) I agree with the assessment of the JJ reboot. Everything is bigger. 😄
@jakexou8126 ай бұрын
The creator of this content doesn't know what "biggest" means, this is a list of 10 "longest".
@vulcan28825 ай бұрын
what do you expect from a computerised voice that can't pronunce names correctly.
@joachimdeussen5 ай бұрын
Rule #1: You should not mix timelines
@jodrakhanthewonderful16427 ай бұрын
AI video maker needs a positronic upgrade.
@MrAlubenco8 күн бұрын
😮 great work and highly entertaining, thanks 👍!!!
@keurikeuri78515 ай бұрын
I'm guessing the Universe Class has it's own city with vehicles, buildings, lakes/parks and even an AI controled atmosphere inside it.
@XHunter4422 ай бұрын
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J 26th century Star trek: Enterprise is the biggest Universal class starship flagship of the federation and battle of Procyon V! Ty for the video and LLAP!
@100547 ай бұрын
Correction, the Constitution II class is only 305 meters long according to all sources I've seen thus far on google.
@TheNecropolis206 ай бұрын
early squad
@Rob_Morrison_GB4 ай бұрын
That's the Motion Picture Prime Universe Enterprise, not the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise
@ivanruzic25927 ай бұрын
I believe that the Jupiter class was overlooked. Longer than the Vengeance, though still dwarfed by the Enty-J.
@keyboardt82767 ай бұрын
Jupiter class is non-canon
@SuperGamefreak187 ай бұрын
@@keyboardt8276the vesta class is beta canon like the Jupiter class
@yvesboutin56046 ай бұрын
In the naval tradition, ships are categorized more by weight ( tons) than by size. Maybe Starfleet should go back to the aforementioned system. Anyhow, that was quite interesting to consider how many workers it took to built such flying cities!
@linz82915 ай бұрын
Mothership networks as flying/floating cities are efficient to space exploration, and ship manufacturing value chains are true interstellar MEGA corporations and galactic members who has managed those systems.
@edtoomuchfun9576 ай бұрын
is this an AI channel?? The voice is robotic, doesnt know its mentioning multiple timelines together as if they were the same, and I think all its data was obtained by data scrapping.
@NaOrbicie5 ай бұрын
Enterprise NCC-1701 for me the most iconic🛸
@moe479887 ай бұрын
I think starfleet had a little more than 100 ships...
@3Rayfire6 ай бұрын
30,000 around the time of the Dominion War.
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
Yeah; remember the Dominion War?
@jtenorj6 ай бұрын
Y'all I think they are referring to different models of ships, not the total number of ships.
@robertfeld58297 ай бұрын
I like the Sutherland class the most. I have a thing for the type of ships with the nacelles beneath the saucer.
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
I love the #Akira class, a re-imagined version of Archer's Enterprise.
@robertfeld58296 ай бұрын
@@charlesdavis545 Mm, that's also a good one.
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
@@robertfeld5829 My all-time favorite ship is #Voyager
@robertfeld58296 ай бұрын
@@charlesdavis545 Good ship, too bad the series NEVER reached a better potential.
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
@@robertfeld5829@robertfeld5829 I agree that it only really got good when they introduced Sevin of Nine and the various Borg episodes. I was disappointed in the ending as they didn't take the time to explore what happened to the crew when they reached home.
@AndersonNeo127 ай бұрын
Riker: "tough little ship"
@jtenorj6 ай бұрын
Worf:Little?(visibly irritated) Riker:(holds up a hand with a bit of a smirk or smile which to me says "jk, fam") Worf:(Calms back down)
@GalacticGaming962205 ай бұрын
The Vesta class isn't even canon, it's still in Apocrypha
@Johnny_Ocha6 ай бұрын
Nice list. However I agree about comments about not mixing in the rebooted movies. 💪🙂👍
@jordanbrancato70267 ай бұрын
Galaxy had max warp of 9.6 for 12 hours.
@BiomedWynn5 ай бұрын
odyssey class is by far my favorite
@IvanKircanski4 ай бұрын
Galaxy-class ships achieved warp flight through two warp nacelles, which housed multiple pairs of warp coils. The acceleration delay between slow-reverse impulse and top warp speed, or about Warp 9, was 0.300 milliseconds. The maximum speed was warp 9.6, which could be maintained for approximately twelve hours.
@robertleem56433 ай бұрын
what happened to the USS Voyager - Intrepid Class
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
Much smaller, similar in size to the TOS Enterprise.
@lord_haven11146 ай бұрын
the first half of the video should be "Longest ships" not biggest. some of those were a tiny bit longer but much MUCH smaller than the galaxy. it was just getting smaller and smaller LOL.
@danelamoreaux41667 ай бұрын
The Sovereign class is my favorite on the list.(However, my actual favorite ship is the Defiant,from DS9)
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
Agreed; I was so pissed they didn't end #Picard with her rather than that old ass Galaxy class.
@zshah31074 ай бұрын
Well I rather highly prefer Galaxy class as my favourite on the list (however, I also preferred the Odyssey class ship named Enterprise F, yes but some wasted opportunity), indeed!
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
@@charlesdavis545All 3 seasons of Star Trek Picard sucked. Now there's a rumor of a Picard Movie... how tired and stale for Trek these days.
@tarn11357 ай бұрын
With very, very, very few exceptions ALL starfleet ships are dedicated science ships.
@AkselGAL7 ай бұрын
wish someone is telling this to the producers. Star Trek has become bammbamm-Action SciFi. Different designs, same as all others.
@icer12496 ай бұрын
they can claim that but its total bs and makes no sence. A science/exploration vessel going toe-toe with a warships makes 0 sence. the Klingon are all about warfare yet there most WAR ships are on par with federation science or exploration ships.
@jacobsteele71382 ай бұрын
You missed the Hercules class. Many trekkies miss that one.
@michaelhyland47747 ай бұрын
The Kirk Enterprise, Kelvin timeline or not, isn’t anywhere near the size of the Enterprise D or E. and the Discovery isn’t bigger than any Enterprise at all
@slysi816 ай бұрын
Discovery screwing up ship sizes, it should have been a lot smaller instead of increasing the 1701 up to match it
@DavidNicholson1016 ай бұрын
Darn, you beat me to it, but I left a similar comment above. I wonder what their explanation is, or are they going to increase the size of all presiding ships to match?
@slysi816 ай бұрын
@@DavidNicholson101 I feel essentially with SNW that if it isn't mentioned again people will forget and they can pretend it didn't happen.
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
It was a, uh, gravimetric anomaly that increased the size of the ship temporarily! That's why we got the giant Spock in TAS , it reacted with his Vulcan DNA and.. 😂
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
Universe class, Universe class, size of the entire universe and its chronometer has a minute hand, a millennium hand, and an eon hand...
@warrenouzts69327 ай бұрын
You know as out dated Enterprise D is since "Generations", the last episode of Next Generation, there was an Enterprise D with 3 engines/ last episode of Picard could have shown a remade Enterprise D.😂
@DavidNicholson1016 ай бұрын
That's a good point.
@Sonicboom20076 ай бұрын
That’s one of the things I didn’t really get in Picard. The Galaxy class at that time was what, 40 years old? Still plenty of service life left going from the many Excelsior and Miranda class ships we saw during TNG era. Yet it seems like they were all retired. IRL the USS Nimitz is still kicking around despite being over 50 years old.
@briannichols48075 ай бұрын
I didn't know that the Kelvin timeline Enterprise was bigger than both the Enterprise-D and Enterprise-E . When I saw the Vengeance in Star Trek Into Darkness I thought it was comparable in size to the Enterprise-D .
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
I'm just hoping they do a TNG reboot. I wonder how big their version of the Enterprise D would be! 😮
@TheMightyCookieShow6 ай бұрын
10,000 Starships all warp within a couple hundred feet of each other and just stand by kind of looks stupid to me if I'm being honest. You want to talk about a good way to destroy your entire fleet with just one false move. So dumb
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
Engage the molecular detachment device...
@Agent77X6 ай бұрын
J.J. Abrams and Alex Kurtzman destroyed the Star Trek franchise by going against Gene Rodenberry!😂
@chrisortega75217 ай бұрын
So..."biggest" in terms of length, not volume or mass... I'm clicking off.
@mastick51064 ай бұрын
I'm glad I came to the comments before actually watching the vid.
@Phil-D834 ай бұрын
Sovereign is smaller than the galaxy class
@SinoltroneldesertoZELO5 ай бұрын
The space frying pan.
@augurseer7 ай бұрын
Boo at those JJ ships
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
Yeah, they're butt ugly. Ships on steroids.
@philipsauers49877 ай бұрын
Kelvin timeline does not count. Different/Alternate/Fake Trek.
@stephenfarthing38197 ай бұрын
I called it a ' flying bedpan ' I never liked it - much!
@RAdaltonracer7 ай бұрын
Different and alternate yes, but not fake. What do you think helped revive the franchise?
@CaptainPositron7 ай бұрын
@@RAdaltonracer Seems like it was more replaced than revived.
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
@@CaptainPositron Trek was REVIVED thanks to especially the first movie, similar to what happened with the Transformers franchise through the Bay movies. You may like the Abrams movies or not, but you can not deny the effect they had - I doubt we´d have gotten as much Trek as we had during the last 15 years - and still do get - without those movies. Abrams put Star Trek back on the map.
@CaptainPositron6 ай бұрын
@@robertmandl9326 Star Trek's viewership numbers may be full, but her spirit will be empty. All Star Trek content from that past 15 years has been utterly derivative. The JJ movies were all simplified rehashes of Wrath of Kahn, STD along with SNW are retconning prequels, and PIC heavily depends on nostalgia from TNG. For being "new" it seems oddly stuck in the past. Old Trek stands the test of time, NuTrek likely wont since it offers nothing of its own to be remembered.
@ohiobrian89936 ай бұрын
Missing the most obvious, weight or mass of the ships, which would be more indicative of true size.
@jamescrawford82324 ай бұрын
When was the F assimilated by the Borg? They really didn't do their homework
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
Spoilers...... Picard S3, I think it was the finale, when the Borg attacked Earth from their secret base inside Jupiter
@geraintjones8110Ай бұрын
The galaxy could achieve a top speed of 9.6 for 12 hours
@angusmacfrankenstein72274 ай бұрын
Yeah, I know I’m repeating the complaints of others, but I really feel there should be divisions of lists for the separate continuities of _Trek._ I also have my doubts if _Discovery_ and _Strange New Worlds_ (just to name two) are in the same timeline as the series that ended with _Voyager._ I’m not even sure if _Enterprise_ is really a part of the original continuity-and one could argue the Temporal Cold War kind of canceled that series out of the timeline…
@timmytheimpaler7 ай бұрын
So why use past tense (noticed it for the Ross class) when all of Trek is in the future? I've noticed others do it, too.
@carador92867 ай бұрын
That's what you do with stories, regardless of whether they are set in the past, present or future. The logic behind this is that you can only tell a story if it has already occurred.
@revaniac7 ай бұрын
The size of the J.J. Abraham's Dreadnought is completely wrong. In the movie it is stated double the size of the constitution class which means double the size of the intrepid class.
@shannoncory43087 ай бұрын
Kelvin timeline Constitution class is not the same size as Prime timeline Constitution class. so putting Intrepid class in there is pointless.
This list is skewed... The first ships easily have MORE SPACE for people than most of the rest. All being judged by length (I'm not going there) and not taking into account width and height.
@Our_Sole_Pusch3 ай бұрын
Set to 1.25 speed if you don't want to fall asleep listening to it.
@DavidNicholson1016 ай бұрын
If all of the sizes shown here were true, it would be preposterous. Going by the Discovery's dimensions, and seeing the 1701 Enterprise sid by side with it, there would have to be some universe breaking Q nonsense to explain how the Enterprise could be shrunk down by almost half during refit.
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
I was wondering about that, too. The dimensions given for the Crossfield seem way out of proportion - there´s no way Discovery is twice the size of a Constitution. But then again from what I read they also increased the Constitution in size by half to match it up.
@chrissonofpear13846 ай бұрын
@@robertmandl9326 Well most of that length comes from the silly, overlong engine nacelles. Meantime, the 'revamped' Enterprise in Strange New Worlds is supposedly, about 428 metres in length.
@maxwellchallender68526 ай бұрын
The largest starship of the mall is a base star class starship
@Croftice127 күн бұрын
The first Kelvin timeline's ship isn't Constitution II class, Enterprise A, it's supposed to be the Constitution Enterprise from the original show, just in an alternate universe. There was actually Enterprise A at the end of the 3rd Kelvin timeline film, as the "original" Enterprise was destroied halfway the movie's course. So another fact wrong. Is there anyone doing proper research these days?
@stratfordbabyАй бұрын
The Galaxy class was introduced in the late 2350s. So you were immediately WRONG.
@TineFangamingАй бұрын
6:19 It's use for the war
@ancient_of_mumu7 ай бұрын
I could even finish the video... AI voices are all over the place
@raywithers5988Ай бұрын
How about comparing enterprise J with 31st century ships a Star Trek especially headquarters command ship
@DeuceSchnozzle6 ай бұрын
So wrong. Kelvin timeline Enterprise is not that big. So many more. Fix the presenter, too. The Star Fleet's Federation of Planets??
@bobmoz3 ай бұрын
abram’s isn’t cannon to the main star trek timeline also the galaxy class by volume is bigger then the ross and sovereign and should be higher on the list
@vincentpuccio36896 ай бұрын
The JJ verse enterprise don’t count it ain’t Trek. JJ versus is called Faux Trek
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
Mom: We have Star Trek at home
@fizzelgizzel55214 ай бұрын
In ds 9 during dominion war a fleet flew to the breen (?) 28 came back from 112. So it must be far more ships.
@sunkim39994 ай бұрын
I like warship type rather than science ship because it's.....Black.😅
@scottbraun24572 ай бұрын
Interesting
@SuperSnakePlissken2 ай бұрын
The problem with getting rid of the Enteprise 1701-F so quickly and jumping into the Enterprise 1701-G in Picard season 3, is somehow that means the G, H, and I now need to last over 150 years. The average life span of an Enterprise is only 19.4 years according to ChatGBT.
@rflester537 ай бұрын
Lose the computer generated narrator - it sucks!
@Random_Ent4 ай бұрын
not sure why the kelvin connie was called the connie II or the enterprise A but ya know...
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
There was an Enterprise A shown at the end of Beyond. Oddly it looks more like the original Enterprise than the first Kelvin timeline Enterprise did..
@Random_Ent2 ай бұрын
@@EdKolis thats what I meant, but in this video, the enterprise we see is just the 2009 enterprise which was just kinda wierd
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
@@Random_Ent oh, I didn't even notice it was the wrong one!
@potofuus2 ай бұрын
Dreadnought is no a real Star Trek Class. Al of this movies is a parallel Storyline
@easydrive36626 ай бұрын
Its such a shame these ships are not for real haha
@danieldorn99894 ай бұрын
A lot of pizza cutters
@KnightRiderowner6 ай бұрын
1:34 Bull 9.65
@NoMoreMyFriend-S6 ай бұрын
Dwarfs compared to a Ras Tschubai, Sol or Base
@22steve51506 ай бұрын
They ought to ban these goddamn AI voices.
@theknightspalace5 ай бұрын
I look forward to the future star trek where I can see the beautiful enterprise J in full effect, I love flying the ship myself
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
Are you ok?
@theknightspalace4 ай бұрын
@@alvinbanks no I'm pretty serious and so is CBS considering.
@setokaiba67582 ай бұрын
Galaxy class can reach warp 9.6, with a theoretical 9.8.
@CaveManJohnCarter6 ай бұрын
Everyone about the Kelvin time line ships being here?... im like... wtf is discovery here? Discovery can us that spore drive and get lost 👉 lol 🤣🤣✌️
@christianrissotto.gordohom34786 ай бұрын
In the kelvin timeline federation ships surelly are bigger because they are a product of a bigger threat.
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
Like who? There aren't any #Borg or #Dominion.
@christianrissotto.gordohom34786 ай бұрын
@@charlesdavis545 First the romulan incursion attack made by nero wich leaved a lot of tech and information not only about future tech but also the quadrant many threats. Second a inminent war with the klingons Third and i want to just tell this with a grain of salt they know about the temporal wars (thanks Daniels) because theres a multiverse out there and in Star Trek Online is pretty much shown how a kelvin timeline dreadnought ship (like the vengueance) is using a temporal rift to move from 1 to another in order to assist in the temporal war. This only matters when we take Star Trek Online (quite much a nexus for all star trek universes) as source. Despite this last point isnt referenced anywhere im very sure Marcus was aware of this because he was terrified in order to made a deal with the devil.
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
@@christianrissotto.gordohom3478 Sorry but, Star Trek died right after DS9 ended. All this other stuff calling it's self Star Trek is just BS.
@christianrissotto.gordohom34784 ай бұрын
@@alvinbanks I respect your opinion but as a star trek online player i can assure you its very funny to use the kelvin, the typhon class ship and many other vessels like the cinidrian jellyfish they all seem to be special in something. Its very noticed the big love for star trek shows and again.... if you dont like theres nothing wrong with that.
@trainglen226 ай бұрын
Don't like the AI voiceover.
@zinzinnatiohio4 ай бұрын
Oh…Star Trek *Online* ships…
@jondonnelly35 ай бұрын
Do the smallest Starships
@AHSolitaire6 ай бұрын
Excalibur class?
@jonharper44787 ай бұрын
Redo this list but with only canon prime timeline ships as well as canon ships.
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
All ships in this list except the Vesta are canon. The Trek definition of "canon" for a starship is "appeared on-screen in a movie or tv series". Tell me, do you know what IDIC stands for? And you dare to consider yourself a Trekkie.
@randybentley26337 ай бұрын
I much prefer the Congo class alternative to the J that Drexler did.
@JasonJones-l1n7 ай бұрын
I do as well beautiful design..I've got a model of it made from two broken smaller Ent Js from eaglemoss..
@boi9056 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Abrams timeline Enterprise A isn't actually that big. That's some stupid ass shit. Also the Galaxy Class is actually bigger than the Sovereign and Vesta classes, it's just shorter. Length does not equal total size.
@ChatBot13372 ай бұрын
Too lazy to look up the rest to confirm, but I was pretty sure Constitution was ~300m and I was correct. Not only is it nowhere near the largest, its certainly nowhere near the longest. Train your AI better.
@EdKolis2 ай бұрын
This is the Constitution class from the Kelvin timeline movies. It's much bigger due to that timeline's advanced construction technology.
@jamesmiller65747 ай бұрын
Since when did we switch from ft to meters
@robertmandl93266 ай бұрын
Metric rules.
@madmeister4076 ай бұрын
You all do realise this is not real, they do not exist.
@Gruegirl2 ай бұрын
You're using a lot of information from STO which is *NOT* canon.
@Sliferzero6 ай бұрын
This is So Coolest my friends. Thanks.
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
No it isn't.
@hvv-kantine75406 ай бұрын
Right after the Abrams crap started, I stopped the video. Guess where the thumb went. Since Star Trek in 2009 i've wanted time travel I would make a lot of people disappear.
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
Why does this AI only call out the name of the ship if it is Enterprise in that class. Why can't Ms AI just make-up a name for the other ships to make this video seem legit.
@_martian1016 ай бұрын
USS vengeance is the best looking federation ship in star trek ever
@charlesdavis5456 ай бұрын
That ship was Borg Ready.
@alvinbanks4 ай бұрын
Are you alright?🤔
@_martian1014 ай бұрын
@@alvinbanks are you?🤔
@rmartinson195 ай бұрын
If they're including STO ships in this, then where's the Jupiter-class Carrier? It's bigger than everything on this list except the Dreadnought and the Universe-class. Also, why the Sutherland and the Ross, when the Andromeda (which the Sutherland is based on) is bigger than both, and is in fact longer than both the Vesta and the Sovereign at 695m? This list is crazy arbitrary, especially the inclusion of JarJar Abrams' BS ships.
@Tsujanryo5 ай бұрын
Wow. Thumbs down for even considering Prime timeline stuff.