Ships BEFORE The Federation - Star Trek Starship Breakdown

[@GamerzRule57]

Fun fact: when they filmed First Contact at the missile silo, they left a camera light up. I took a tour there not too long ago and they just said the Trek people didn't want to climb up 8 stories to get the light down. It's still there!

[@corwinberry]

The fun facts you find randomly.

[@thejamesasher]

are there pics online?

[@spentcasing3990]

You could say it boldly went where no one wants to go

[@sagsfv3122]

Paramount had to pay for or replace the light. Those Mole-Richardson "K" lights are not cheap!

[@pwc7475]

You got to see the missile silo for first contact? freakin' cool

[@marleegould542]

Sounds like someone doesn't have faith of the heart.

[@marvinthemartian6788]

🤣

[@brianoconnell6459]

One issue I always had with the Phoenix's launch, is the proximity of all the townsfolk to where, um, it launches. Ever hear of blast hazards?

[@donovanbradford8231]

I know, I spaced on what photon torpedoes are basically nukes yet the site of the Phoenix was still standing after multiple impacts.

[@michaellangwaller]

I have an issue with the nacelles on the Phoenix being inline with the hull. According to ST lore, the nacelles have to have line of sight with each because of an energy discharge between the nacelles. Cochrane was lucky the ship didn't explode when warp was engaged. Of course it could be that the energy discharge was so minor at warp 1 that it didn't matter or it arched over the ship.

[@concious2]

I was getting ready to state the same, I was like they should all be burnt to a crisp! People making the movie did not think of this? Also anyone know how fast is Warp? For instance at warp 1 how long to get to Mars? Thanks

[@kerryedavis]

@@concious2 In the past, and including in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, engaging warp within the solar system was considered risky enough that they only did it in order to get to V'Ger as quickly as they could. But assuming it was done anyway, if warp 1 is 1x the speed of light, and Mars is between 36 and 50 million miles from Earth, and ignoring the need to go around the Sun when Mars is at maximum distance, at warp 1 it would take between about 3 and 5 minutes. Which seems fast. BUT. Interstellar distances are Something Else. At 1x the speed of light, going from Earth to the NEAREST other star, Alpha Centauri, would take FOUR YEARS. Even at what should be Warp 5 or 6, it takes about 2 weeks. So much for NX-01 getting to Kronos in 4 days!

[@LordOfNihil]

thats not even the worst problem. these missiles used some pretty nasty fuels. everyone would have been choking on the fumes.

[@Rocketsong]

My favorite "not NX" ships from Enterprise were the intrepid Type Half Saucer ships.

[@NoBudjetFilms]

Yeah, definitely disappointed they didn't make this list.

[@datathunderstorm]

Being of Yoruba background, I am honoured to discover that an early Star Trek lore spacecraft on a mission to Europa was indeed named after the Yoruba Thundergod “Shango” - that warms the cockles of my heart! 😊👍🏾

[@LoneBrowncoat]

"All These Worlds Are Yours, except Europa. Attempt No Landing There. Use Them Together, Use Them in Peace" We were warned, and HAL amplified the signal. [chuckle]

[@carminemurray6624]

@@LoneBrowncoat I Love ❤️ that 2001 a Space Oddesy Quote.

[@LoneBrowncoat]

@@carminemurray6624 ...2010

[@Felix24148]

Has anyone ever told you that you talk a little like Kelsey Grammer? I do love your narration though

[@2012blueridge]

I’ve always been a fan of the warp Delta design, ever since they first appeared. I often wondered if Star Fleet had stayed with that design what would newer ships look like

[@evanboll4651]

Probably something like the Prometheus or Relativity.

[@Farzlepot]

I'd consider the Defiant-class to be a similar style - all hunkered-down and compact.

[@splat-trainproductions]

They probably would've evolved into Star Destroyers & all the other wedged-shape Kuat/Corellian ships like the ones in Star Wars!(Ep 2-6+KOTOR+CW+Bad Batch+Solo+Rebels+Andor+Mandolorian+Legends+Xystons from Ep 9, NOT the crappy First Order ones from Ep 7-9!)

[@InfoTopCoatArmor]

@@splat-trainproductions You're going to catch hell for that on a Federation thread, LOL

[@splat-trainproductions]

@@InfoTopCoatArmor What for? Mentioning Star Wars?

[@qdllc]

The Enterprise prior to the Phoenix might have been mankind’s first attempt at a working FTL, but WWIII derailed the program. ZC might have refined the idea into a true working model. Remember that first contact was a chance happening of he Phoenix’s warp test being just as the Vulcans were passing close to the Sol system.

[@ramstang]

Which was explained non cannon novel Star Trek preserver

[@RJALEXANDER777]

I like the idea that humanity was already on course towards it's destiny, but that old historic vices set us back and almost destroyed us. Speaks of that optimistic Star Trek philosophy that we needed to adopt more hopeful, enlightened ideals if we were to head towards a better future.

[@rowangoswell8567]

Makes sense. It's much more realistic to imagine that Zephram Cochrane was simply completing the work, rather than inventing the technology wholesale.

[@temparalflux914]

@@rowangoswell8567 Yeah coz its a little odd that some backwater ramshackle town in a post WW3 world has some drunk thats working on a warp ship....whats his motive for a warp capable nuke? Did he think he was still working for NASA and exploring new worlds?

[@kargaroc386]

@@temparalflux914 He says it himself in FC: to sell it, get rich, and retire somewhere still good.

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

The (REAL) Space Shuttle Enterprise was used to do the landing tests, but was originally planned to be used as part of the orbiter fleet. The problem was that in the short span of ten years the second shuttle was over twice as advanced especially with the panel instruments, and computers. It was more cost effective to build the new shuttles than to retro fit Enterprise. She was one of the biggest things that taught them how to make the rest though.

[@flyboymb]

Probably the same story with the 1701, but Starfleet did it anyway.

[@anakinflair]

Is that why she never flew in space? I always wondered why she was only used in tests and for training, and never flew in space.

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

Yes, and another fun fact about her was that it was named Enterprise in honor of Star Trek. The original main cast and Gene Roddenberry got to go see her.@@anakinflair

[@MrZics]

The OV-165 is based off a real life proposed replacement for the Space Shuttle called the Venturestar. It was being developed in the 1990s by Lockheed Martin and eventually cancelled in 2001. The linier aerospike engine was being developed for the program but it's development was never finished (which is why we don't see them on real life rockets)

[@AJB2K3]

Im glad someone else knows this.

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

Knew this as well. I hope they renew the project.

[@michaelmckinnon2906]

Too bad, it seems like it would have been the perfect aircraft to get humans to Mars, perhaps with warp engines

[@agl1138]

i noticed this too. Venturestar was cancelled after the composite fuel tank went south

[@michaelmckinnon2906]

@@agl1138 it wasn't just me fuel tank, the engines were underpowered, the proposed fuel fell through (it didn't use the same fuel as the Space Shuttle), and various other problems led to it's cancellation, just a heads up.

[@markbernero9302]

I would like to see a video on pre-TOS ships that include the SS Valiant (design seen in ST Encyclopedia), Friendship I probe, SS Conestoga (ENT:Terra Nova) and the Daedalus Class.

[@Ash-bd6jz]

theres literally a dyson add directly below your comment.. youtube.. yee noo too much

[@timonsolus]

Seconded, apart from Friendship One, which is basically an unmanned, very long range version of the Phoenix.

[@donovanbradford8231]

Suprr cool I love these designs as well would love even beta cannon on them

[@frankdanger2900]

I'm only just getting past the rambling intro monologue and you're telling me the Daedalus-Class isn't in this video? Whyyyyy

[@charliepotatoes001]

Dyson-Yoyodyne? The one's that were illegally mass produced and sold to various private interests that either escaped or avoided the Vulcan Blockades.

[@ernestcline2868]

The ringed-ship that Jeffries designed has appeared in several slightly different variations in beta canon. I first saw it in the 1979 Star Trek: Spaceflight Chronology book where it was given as the first of the Declaration-class passenger liners that were capable of Warp 3.2 and served in the early Federation.

[@theduke7539]

I believe they actually wrote a book about it where it was the true first warp ship in earth history, but it was calssified as a military research vessel, and its mission was classified due to the outbreak of ww3

[@GlennTillema]

I too had the Spaceflight Chronology book and at this point there are so many timelines you really have to pick one before you start talking about predecessors to the Enterprise because who knows?

[@peterlutz7191]

I consider the book canon, since Gene Roddenberry had a hand in it.

[@dennismason3740]

I'm not sorry. I learned Faith of the Heart, by heart, and it took 3 weeks. Now I can sing it at the top of my lungs on Hollywood Boulevard with fine guitar framework. I know the song can be cringy, you just have to sing it like you believe it.

[@daniellafferety4025]

The rings were what real warp nacelles look like. How funny. Come to think of it warping space/time sounds like a kind of weapon system. Pluse cyber hacking by a rail gun launcher cyber hacking robot. So if you think the ship is not obviously armed that does not mean the ship is harmless. Bending space,and time sounds like its dangerous. Could be a wepon system. Imagen Bending the space time around your enemies bodies. Or hacking their life suport, or elevator controls. The ships computer, and ablity to bend space time by a feild affect could qualify as wepons. So a will weaton inspired Wesley crusher. Could litterly squashes thoes nasty alien invaders. Cause every meathan tolet to over flow, and explode. So a enemies ship kills the enemy. So unarmed doesn't mean this fake ship is harmles.

[@nicholasklangos9704]

The XVC 330 MODEL WAS ALSO SHOWN IN CAPTAIN SISCO OFFICE ON DS9.

[@seansomers5243]

If I were to give a suggestion, it would have to be a video explaining klingon starships classes, designs etc. Great work anyway!

[@TrekCentral]

Good suggestion! We’ll look into that one :) - Jack

[@maxrander0101]

the biggest problem with them is how far back do you go do you go to the pre empire houses if you do it would be heaps of them as the designs we know today only came about after the formation of the KDF

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

All stolen Hurq tech. Moving on.

[@donovanbradford8231]

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 While I don't deny that the Klingons did use Herq tech I'm curious which of it was Herq vs later Klingon design.

[@philbertchow5425]

Q’pla!

[@colinmoore7460]

I thought I saw a Fireball XL5 model. Probably the NX Alpha. Interesting note Gerry Anderson's Fireball ship also used a launch rail.

[@davidmost5206]

correct

[@sagsfv3122]

Fireball XL-5, The Thunderbirds, and Astro Boy were my favorite shows when I was a toddler!

[@saladinbob]

Fun fact about Eaves' NG Space Shuttle, the concept was stolen by NASA engineers for the concept X-33 Space Plane/Shuttle replacement in 2009. Sadly the design was rejected and NASA outsourced their launch vehicle side to private industries such as Space X.

[@aaronjuergens5219]

I’m gonna assume he’s joking about the XCV-330 Enterprise when he says it’s silly knowing that an Alcubierre Drive would use rings as part of its design to warp the fabric of Spacetime IRL, thus making it the most realistic warp design in Star Trek. Let’s not forget the XCV-330 was always very popular among fans and was almost used as the design for the heroship of the never produced Roddenberry series “Starship.” Starship would later go on to be made, with several changes to the idea, as Andromeda, the Andromeda Ascendant btw still uses a bit of a hooped ring design in its look.

[@xedanis101]

I was indeed joking, well caught. :) I've been obsessing for a long time over FTL research, cause I'm a massive nerd. :P

[@johnmullholand2044]

AFAIK, the Andromeda Acendant used the "hoops" to "ride the rails" in slipstream, as a means of protecting the main body of the ship, like the "battle blades" that deploy during battle.

[@AllenUry]

The "Ring Ship" design goes back to at least 1974, as I picked up a lithograph of it during Gene Roddenberry's traveling road show stop in Madison, Wisconsin that year. My understanding is that Matt Jefferies created it for an aborted Roddenberry pilot called simply "Starship." As for as its class, it's widely known as a "Declaration-class" early warp ship.

[@davidmaestas2915]

This is awesome. I think I will use this in my Spelljammer/Star Trek hybrid campaign I am writing for my Dnd 5e group. My reasoning will be that Starfleet revives the Declaration class as a Legacy type of program. It will be a modern ship design, but with a 'shifting' Impulse/Warp Ring design. Similar to a jellyfish, the ring system will undulate, based on which propulsion unit is being employed at the moment. When Impulse is being used, that ring will flare out, but when Warp is used, the Impulse Ring folds in, and the Warp Ring flares out, and so on.

[@lonesomephreak69]

The "ring ship" also resembles our current real-world idea for the Alcubierre drive engine, our current "best guess" at making an actual warp drive. I'm not sure if this was the idea behind it, or just another Star Trek idea bleeding into reality...

[@AllenUry]

@@lonesomephreak69 The Declaration Class Enterprise predates the Alcubierre Drive by about 4 decades!

[@sagsfv3122]

@@lonesomephreak69 Many, if not most aerospace engineers grew up with Star Trek and as during their studies thought, "I bet I can make that a reality. . ." Many of our modern contraptions and tech seem to have been conceived by Roddenberry!

[@ransom182]

Now do the Intrepid and Franklin types please!!! I always thought of the Warp Deltas as being an older design, perhaps a 2220’s/2230’s ship. Maybe the same era as the J class freighters.

[@TrekCentral]

We'll certainly do them soon! :D - Jack

[@michaeldemarco9950]

Since ENTERPRISE takes place from 2151-55, I’d say that the Intrepid-type dates from 2145, and the Warp Delta from about 2140.

[@squirrellordsgaming2772]

I really like the design concept of the deltas. I would love to see a resurgence of that design in later Star Trek time era for the civilian market.

[@Irishrebel092]

i think it's interesting how the warp delta looks a lot like the early Romulan bird of prey ships. but with the main hull shape reversed.

[@PKPhoenix83]

Yeah the Deltas were so cool looking. It's my favorite Ent ship.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Definitely the coolest Federation ships of the era.

[@SpideyVids]

The way you described that NX test ship launching along a track with a near vertical part at the end is extremely reminiscent of the launching of Fireball XL5.

[@kerryedavis]

Also the movie When Worlds Collide.

[@wyrmshadow4374]

Sanger Silverbird and the Ark ship from When Worlds Collide. There was also a similar system in a German film from the 30s.

[@detectivesquirrel2621]

The XV-330 was based on technology they got from the Vulcans. That was why it looks like Vulcan ships.

[@TheShreddedSnorlax]

That was always my thinking. Maybe it was the first Human built starship to visit Vulcan or something along those lines.

[@detectivesquirrel2621]

@@TheShreddedSnorlax Thats right. It is also mentioned in the Star Trek Encyclopaedia

[@lord_haven1114]

Coincidentally. Earth ships would look like that anyway for long journeys, and the rings would rotate to give the feeling of gravity.

[@TheShreddedSnorlax]

@@detectivesquirrel2621 really? I haven't read it so was jsut guessing

[@tomhenry897]

Don’t think so The ring spun to produce artificial gravity It was a simple design

[@christophernuzzi2780]

Please do more! I love the early history of Starfleet!

[@TrekCentral]

We’ve got some Romulan videos coming soon! - Jack

[@LordOfNihil]

i always did want a zephram cochrane series. what enterprise could have been if they stuck to the primitiveness of the technology for more than the first few episodes.

[@joshevans3452]

Hey now! Don't you think you're being a bit hard on the J? It's been through a great deal. Remember Procyon 5!

[@xedanis101]

Onion 5 is burned forever into my mind, I assure you.

[@jinxiemug6041]

I have always wondered since the movie came out, why did Admiral Marcus have a model of the USS Vengeance in his collection. That ship was not supposed to exist, it was being built in secret. Kinda blows the secret...😜😜😜

[@stevenserna910]

I guess Admiral Marcus was just one if those types of personalities that likes to posture, pose, pout, n' prance. They like having trinkets, & doo-dad's placed around so people will ask, "This is neat, what is it?" So that they can then reply-smugly, "...it's the next 'top-secret' design that, 'I approved'. It's bigger, better, faster, more blah-blah than anything else that's been blah-blahed ever invented yet." "And only 'I' have the keys to it." "It's Me, Mine, My Idea, My Authorization...the most fantastic, revolutionary thing ever bigly thought of by Me-Myself and I, in the entire Mar-A-Lago universe. They said 'why the universe?' "And I told them, I said... because I'm bigger, & better than this rinky-dinky, little, sol-system. A solar system wouldn't be fair for me, I'm bigger than that. Better than this Quadrants' Star Systems. Bigger than the, "Milky Way Galaxy". I'm my own universe, and it's the best universe...no-one has a better, more fabulous universe than mine!" Sounds like someone we know, running for office nowadays. My new slogan is, "MSBCA; Make Space Bigly Cofef Again." I shall call it, "The Space Force"!

[@jaslarja]

Can you please make a video about civilian ships or civilian space flights in general?

[@TrekCentral]

Hey Jan, we’ve actually got that video in progress rn! :) - Jack

[@jaslarja]

@@TrekCentral that’s awesome!!!

[@alexandercaires5921]

What about NV-01 Intrepid?

[@baystated]

Always felt that the XCV was designed by the Dyson fan and vacuum company.

[@stevengalloway8052]

😆 No, you lunatic, you're getting it mixed up with the Kirby vacuum company, which did the actual designing... 😆

[@captainr800]

I remember reading that the ring enterprises ship was base on Vulcan ships by starfleet in its early years before NX-01, it’s warp was around 1 or 2 and it didn’t have good turn rate.

[@Ziplock9000]

Did you even watch the video?

[@captainr800]

@@Ziplock9000 yes?

[@DigVision]

If you pay attention carefully, did you ever wonder why the "VIRGO" zodiac sign was in focus on the Enterprise generic intros?

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Never before have I wanted a video so much and never known until I saw it. I love the warp delta's design, it is so sleek and elegant. I would love to have seen a much bigger, much better armed and armoured version as a hero ship. Imagine if all the ships in Trek based their designs on the delta instead of the saucer. It is also perhaps the closest we'll ever get to a Naboo starfighter's design language in Star Trek, the epitome of old fighter jets in space.

[@DNKGlobalStudios]

The amount of shaking on the launch of The Phoenix would cause enough vibration to break the whole ship apart in real life at the hypersonic speeds it would be traveling at. This kind of vibration is avoided at all costs in real spaceships

[@Terra-Quattuor]

Absolutely loved the Pheonix, had that toy as a young lad. Loved it

[@Jim_Jones_Guyana]

Cool. I never really cared for the Phoenix. I assume you mean Zefram Cochrane's converted ICBM with fold out nacelles in TNG: First Contact? (not the USS Phoenix, (the Nebula class at 00:24) or the Phoenix Class? (a subclass of the Prometheus design) My favorite Trek ships are the Miranda & Excelsior class, (I also really like the Nova class. (USS Equinox) I don't really like many non-Star Fleet ships except the Klingon Bird-of-Prey. (I hate Ferengi & Cardassian ships. They're ugly & unimaginative (the main Ferengi ship looks like a crab) I have a bunch of old 1990s Micro Machines, early 2000s Furuta, and newer Eaglemoss & Hero Collection Star Trek ships. (3-4 dozen different Eaglemoss & = number of MMs & Furuta) The Eaglemoss are really nice. They seem to be of slightly better quality then Hero Collection. (even though I think Eaglemoss made Hero Collection?) It's a shame Eaglemoss went out of business. 🙁 I have all the Eaglemoss ships at the beginning of Enterprise series, from the OV-165 shuttle to Enterprise NX-01. (except for Cochrane's Phoenix. I have only a little Micro Machines one)

[@peterboczan2116]

You missed out the SS Botany Bay, which was launched in the mid 1990's with Khan and his genetically enhanced colleagues on board.

[@stevemayandleilaroehead870]

I was just wondering about that :)

[@davidponseigo8811]

I saw the Space Shuttle Enterprise at the New Orleans Worlds Fair in 1986 and still remember touching it.

[@williamwalter8554]

21:00 Does the Archer Burn Maneuver require aloe vera lotion after it has been completed?

[@cm1701a]

Ov 165 is based on the real world Lockheed “Venture star” concept which was a single stage to orbit concept. The test version (x-33) was canceled early in Bush admin before completion due to complexity of composite fuel tank design. Ironically the launch pad was built and functional but the test vehicle is no more.

[@glenn_r_frank_author]

The Delta design looks almost like the Romulan Bird of Prey body style.

[@sheltonfuller2774]

There is a USS North Carolina in Star Trek

[@konker420]

What do naval ships of earth look like in the 24 century? Malcolm's family all served in the Royal Navy, but what to sailing ships look like in the time of space travel. Are they armed with plasma cannons too?

[@WhiteChocolate74]

Would they even have armed forces on Federation Earth? I don't think war exists in the 24th century

[@oldmanjim2376]

Gotta love the NX-Delta and its "Star Destroyer" style sublight engines. "George Lucas gonna sue somebody"

[@UnknownUzer]

If the Warp Delta was capable of warp 3, then why the hell didn't Earth send it to check on what happened to Terra Nova? At warp 3, Terra Nova would have been just a 9 month journey. (fyi at warp 5 it would be just over a month).

[@zhenchiboo5660]

Honestly the warp delta's gonna be ome of my favourite starfleet ship designs, I would love to see you guys post more about pre tos and federation era starfleet ships

[@whirledpeaz5758]

Perhaps the 65 in OV-165 was homage to USS Enterprise CVN-65? Wish Star Trek would recognize the legendary CV-6 USS Enterprise more often.

[@adamofgrayskull7735]

Ohh yeah

[@KhalainBear]

Great video but do you have a vid or more information of that NX- Intrepid at the end with the Deltas?

[@TrekCentral]

Not yet! But I'm personally planning on writing one, so stay tuned for that one :D - Jack

[@CoreXion_]

@@TrekCentral The history of those ships are interesting, being used in some conflicts including the Earth-Romulan War.

[@antenant9294]

I love the way that OX165 seems to share a similar design DNA to the ships seen in the programme.

[@roryotoole3279]

Originally the first space shuttle was going to be Columbia and the Enterprise was going to be a later ship. Star Trek fans started writing demanding that the first space shuttle be an Enterprise so they changed the names. Had Star Trek fans not intervened we would have had a space faring Enterprise space shuttle.

[@gizfpv]

Dude you should have mentioned the SS Valiant (from the TOS episode 'where no man has gone before'). That ship was supposedly Earth's first warp capable deep space exploration ship

[@russellharrell2747]

Deep space…all the way to the galactic barrier. Makes about as much sense as Voyager 6 falling into a black hole or The other early warp ships traveling insane distances

[@thomashill6347]

I so enjoy hearing you speak of the things of Star Trek SHIPS are a good topic, Thank you Lieutenant Adam for sharing the research that you and the team at Trek Central put together in this video.

[@williammay5300]

Quote Spock, Fascinating

[@saparotrob7888]

I have a question about Cochrane's first warp flight, before the Borg showed up. How did he get back down to Earth? After Cochrane's second first warp flight, how did they get back down to Earth? I just noticed I asked this a while ago. Okay, how about this one? Across the entire science fiction-verse, everybody's airlocks fit perfectly. Even First Contact. Not even touching on why artificial gravity never fails.

[@brianrupe9420]

Long time watcher and love all the content that you have put out and looking forward for more. Keep up the good work

[@TrekCentral]

Thanks, will do! - Jack

[@viktorkarlsohn3705]

1] Good news, NASA is actually working on a Warp Drive. It comes from the EM Drive, from the UK. The EM Drive only needs electricity to generate thrust. However it also 'warps' space, to make a space bubble. 2] NASA is also working on anti-matter engine. They say, at current costs, a gram of anti-matter would cost $65m to produce.

[@andrewsvaz]

Lt Adam is a great narrator. Sometimes I see some of the videos that aren't exactly all that and Adam makes things VERY more interesting to see.

[@cuddlepaws4423]

It was obvious that Vulcans, with NO emotion, got very emotional about us going into space by trying to block our progress at every opportunity. I seem to recall Archer pulling them up about this, that they were interfering and stifling our natural progress as a species. The Vulcans were in fact violating what was to become the prime directive. One thing that puzzled us about the Zefram Cochran ship prior to them being made in space..... How the hell did it land??

[@harrybutcher1015]

Beautiful!

[@Mike-gt1cs]

This might be a stretch, but it's interesting that the Orbital Vehicle is numbered - 165 1 for flight ready, and -'65' for Enterprise? The US Navy's designation for the now decommissioned nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Enterprise was CVN-65. Coincidence? I don't think so.

[@rhyschnee3810]

Great overview of cannon ships. I remember playing a Star Trek Legacy? Where you started with the NX-01 and was protecting and rescuing a NX style Miranda Class, and also the Daedalus Class. Fun games

[@aleckelsey2663]

One of my favorite trek games. No... actually... Legacy is my favorite star trek game.

[@kristianmolloy8622]

that Miranda type of ship was Poseidon Class but there was also the Yorktown Class like a Beefed up NX

[@aleckelsey2663]

@@kristianmolloy8622 Yorktown was more like maybe a precursor to the constitution class.

[@alexcarrillo5510]

Good history documentary - But your Voice does sound familiar - Did you work at Hanna-Barbera Productions as a Voice Over for the Characters? Sure sounds like you must of work for either Yogi Bear or the Jetsons.. Otherwise very good history of the Early Federation Ships, But you did not mention How the S.S. Valiant got it's History as it was part of the era of Early Enterprise History... Bozeman Theme Park??? Take a ride on the Phoenix???

[@kineuhansen8629]

now this video need a part 2 with ships from the earth romulan war unless i am missing some

[@greensoplenty6809]

i was driving across golden gate bridge when the shuttle was being retired and on a final tour. going about 45-50 mph looking to right and seeing 747 and shuttle float by was weird, seemed like was going very slow, very trek ship like. too bad i wasnt expecting to see it didnt have camera out

[@AnthonyKellyYip]

My headcanon is that the Starfleet insignia was designed to honour the Warp Delta ships that defended Earth back in the day

[@Dimension137]

you're showing the J. J. Abrams the Kelvin Timeline is not Canon to the original Star Trek timeline so any ship from the Kelvin timeline is not Canon. because it was J. J. Abrams vision of Star Trek not from the original writerGene Roddenberry if he was still alive he could take JJ Abrams to court for copyright. the only Canon ships in Star Trek is from the original TV series up to Voyager

[@tomasrikona4021]

Most excellently presented, very informative and amusing .Thank you.

[@DrMarten]

I hate the Enterprise J.

[@DNKGlobalStudios]

The XCV ship is based on the Alcubbiere warp drive concept that is very much a real life concept designed by physicist Miguel Alcubbiere.

[@AllenUry]

Just the opposite, in fact, as Alcubbiere did not propose his warp drive until 1994, whereas the XCV design goes back to at least 1974 and Roddenberry's aborted pilot for a series called "Starship."

[@nicholasklangos9704]

Funny too how the capsule of the Phoenix looks a lot like the SpaceX Dragon crew capsule, except the Dragon flight deck and control panel is a much cleaner more sophisticated looking touchscreen system and way more comfortable seats! Another thing about Star Trek that always bothered me was the cheap office furniture look of all the seats especially the pilots seats on shuttles etc with the series lack of head supports to prevent whiplash!!! STTNG con chairs were the only seats that ever looked like a sort of flight high G seating, nuts!!

[@HalferLandPerformance]

No idea how your channel isn't 100k+++. Hands down my favorite ST channel now

[@TrekCentral]

Thank you! Looks like we’re on track to hit 100K very soon ;) - Jack

[@HalferLandPerformance]

@@TrekCentral No problem, props given where due. And you may have more Eaglemoss ships than me. I have roughly 25-30...a couple XL ships and a XXL Hand made Romulan D'Deridex 🤙

[@TrekCentral]

Oooh, i think you have more than i do! I only brought a few of them, but send us a picture of your collection sometime! - Jack

[@HalferLandPerformance]

@@TrekCentral Contact Email? or where to send pics?

[@TrekCentral]

You can Tweet us @TheTrekCentral or join our Discord server! - Jack

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well informatively explained and executed in every detail and every way shape and form and format on this subject matter provided on all of the various vessel's and starship's built before the NX-01 Enterprise Class of Starship's and so forth and so on indeed 👌.

[@paullatimer9249]

USS Franklin (NX-326), from the 2009 film, predates the arrival of the Narada, thus is is still canon for the prime universe. As "the first Warp 4 ship", it clearly predates the NX Warp 5 program that spawned NX-01 Enterprise.

[@ravendagrey]

I was thinking the same, Timeline-wise it would be between the "Delta warp 3 ships" and the NX-01. It was recommissioned and upgraded during the Romulan war as the Federation needed any ship they could get their hands on.

[@williamantico7768]

What About the USS Franklin ? It was a warp 4 ship, and was armed. They has already fought aginst some enemy's in space.

[@hungryhungryhobo196]

My all time favorite Enterprise was the A. I watched the first 6 Star Trek movies over and over as a kid I nearly wore out the tapes. The E was my second favorite, but after watching and re watching Enterprise I think the NX is now my second favorite. It's just a solid looking ship that feels very practical for the time and clearly reflects design decisions that would be used in future Star Fleet ships.

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Aerospike engines have been around for a while, I was kind of disappointed to find that SpaceX don't use them because they're unproven. It will never become proven if you never use them, Elon!

[@stratometal]

As far as I am concerned you can sing that intro song all you want. Its the most fitting and beautiful intro of any Star Trek show!

[@martinbaxter4783]

Yes… YES! GO THERE! Thanks for the Shweet, Shweet SPAAAAAAAAAACE PORRRRRRRNNNN!

[@MrFreesearcher]

Let's not forget the Ares ships, traveling to Mars in the 2030's. Ares IV ended up trapped in a Graviton Ellipse, which then turned up some years later for the crew of USS Voyager to attempt a recovery. Episode S6E8 - One Small Step.

[@laurencechick848]

NH

[@warhawk4494]

Are you Kelsey Grammer? You sound like him a little bit. Lol great video. It's a shame we never built those fancy single stage shuttles. We had several designs for them but....oh well

[@666toysoldier]

Having just finished reading "Wingless Flight" by R. Dale Reed, I can tell you that the OV-165 is a direct copy of the X-33, a 67-foot-long NASA/Lockheed Martin prototype model of the proposed 127-foot VentureStar. The Warp Delta ship looks like the X-24A, an early lifting-body research craft, with added propulsion pods.

[@carlodeguzman683]

Jackson: Well, we have a number of… shuttles. O'Neill: Shuttles. Bra'tac: These “shuttles”, they are a formidable craft?

[@buidseach]

I love the idea that the XCV-300 was a sub light exploration ship designed to visit our nearest star.

[@xKR33Px]

Intense heat on reentry only happens because of speed. With the aerospike engines not requiring a large amount of fuel they should have figure that out by then. The only reason they need deflector shielding right now is because they don't have the tech for an engine to slow the craft down on reentry without large amounts of fuel onboard.

[@carbondragon]

Can't find a link, but I first saw the rocket sled idea shown in When Worlds Collide, and I thought it was really neat. The technology has found its way into the High Frontier 4 All board game, which is a very thematic simulation type boardgame about the next 50 years of space development.

[@LoneBrowncoat]

Then used a few years later in Fireball XL-5, hell it even looks like it has a type of nacelle pairs in the aft end. Old episodes are here somewhere on KZbin. or Vimeo.

[@gelgamath_9903]

This is the fist video of yours that I've watch and i got tot say i like it. You have the energy and wit of and Aperture Sciences A.I. keep it up

[@carlosrvra]

"...in true MAVERICK fashion..." 😉 I see what you did there

[@LeftCatcher]

In true Klingon fashion, I demand you release more classified earth ship documentation.😋

[@TrekCentral]

Qa’pla!

[@thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527]

Picard is so badly written microbes cleaning the atmosphere aaarrrggghhh thats litrally the plot for Red Planet

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

What about the literal Intrepid class that you spoke of at the end? Why didn't you throw that in?

[@inglefinger]

That 1st sleek shuttle was based on actual design, wasn’t it? I remember Vice President Gore saying it would be the vehicle to replace the original Shuttles from 80s. I think funding was cut for it though.

[@juanmelendezrivera6085]

When the artificial gravity system was invented for pre federation star ships? Some connection with real space history is needed to make the Star Trek federation story more interesting.

[@baystated]

We love out Enterprises but they invariably belong to a governmental enterprise (small "e"). How many ships have we seen in the Federation as private enterprise ships? Personally "owned"/controlled. What ships could non-starfleety private Federation citizens operate?

[@markbernero9302]

I would like to think that some of these designs used the ring design for warp drive since they are not Starfleet ships. I saw a ship online that was a space liner and looked similar to a Vulcan Surak class ship.

[@randallwong7196]

I get a sense you are narrating these videos while thinking about Kelsey Grammer.

[@blackhoodproductions3739]

Has anyone told you that you sound very similar to Kelsey Grammer? If not, you do!

[@KikoNYC]

Make more videos please!

[@yourfriend8052]

I think the XCV-300 could’ve been a SUB-luminal warp ship that was the first tests of warp technologies before the eugenics war.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

I am surprised that no one used the SR-71 as the basis of an early experimental warp ship/shuttle

[@patrickorobor84]

Nope that bird is for the atmosphere but I think they should have mentioned it

[@Jagdtyger2A]

@@patrickorobor84 :)

[@Alternabear]

Sooo....clearly a little late in my subscription helping breach the 100k mark but better late than never right? AMAZING video!! Informative and entertaining. You sir, command attention and are a born orator. LLAP

[@neto135791]

you forgot about the Freedom class ship, the USS franklin. it broke the warp 4 barrier