Dino Cazares Talks Obsolete | FEAR FACTORY

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[@Nobody-dl4tm]

Demanufacture and Obsolete will always have a gold star place in my heart. Zero Signal on the MK soundtrack changed my life

[@despisethespecies1990]

Mortal Kombat 1995 literally formed my taste in music, Fear Factory, Napalm Death, Stabbing Westward, GZR & of course Buckethead

[@Nobody-dl4tm]

@@despisethespecies1990 same. Not only am I still a big 90s techno and industrial fan but the exposure of heavier metal like FF and Napalm Death ended up giving me the passion for a career in extreme metal. I can trace it all back to the MK soundtrack and it's probably a pretty rare pathway for most "extreme metal" people. Formed my musical taste as well, to an interesting degree

[@A..D..D]

@ 0:14 Dino was nice enough to play the whole album for us

[@judgegroovyman]

Lol

[@TheTenCentStory]

I listened to the entire Obsolete album while running my first marathon this year. Thanks, Fear Factory.

[@littledittymusic727]

So you're telling me that your time was 48:59 min?

[@andywagoner4869]

That’s awesome

[@user-vx8rn7ob8l]

It sucks

[@robertbaratheon9289]

Damn, that sucks. You could've just listened to the album and not run an entire marathon.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

​@user-vx8rn7ob8l why are you still here?

[@draleigh8881]

obsolete is one of the best metal albums of all time i rmember being in 6th grade and i was rockin out to shock and edgecrusher,

[@Rkitt8]

Same! I was super young when this came out and I had a FF shirt for everyday of school. Legends.

[@danielmoore716]

9th grade for me. Brings back the fondest of memories.

[@gonzalonieto2495]

Obsolate, is a Great álbum, récord !! ! Memorabilly because, them For You! Epoque, was a discordia, entry symb ols Of Decorated, Imprint the cage or a Disc, For the Time & looking the 1 - Song - Shock and a ideas past For a! Mind, simplyment..!!?? But I'd like'd !! FeaR FactorY! ! ! ? .

[@j3tskr3vm96]

Fax

[@phutureproof]

My god! Edgecrusher, what a tune, and that one about a leaf in my eye or whatever, descent, great album, so heavy, shock! What an opening tune 🤘

[@JonEvolve]

Obsolete is one of the albums that helped shape me as a person, changed my perspective on electronic music elements combined with metal music and introduced concept/storylines within albums. I still listen to this album.

[@mrlnstrousden]

😂 his impression of Vinnie Paul killed me

[@poindextertunes]

When I was a kid I begged my mom to buy me a game called Carmageddon. Featured on the soundtrack of that game? You guessed it, Fear Factory. After 30 hours of playing that game I sought out their album Obsolete. Was not disappointed 💯

[@Mastectomy]

This dude is a metal legend. Demanufacture and Obsolete are total game changers. True Masterpieces.

[@silviocinti]

Obsolete was a punch in my face, I never forget the first time I heard it!

[@A.i.Riverz]

I will never forget when mtv had wrestling at an event and had fear factory performing on the ring side when they released obsolete

[@trevormalchano7098]

Yes! Wcw bash at the beach or something like that

[@danielleclair1360]

Growing up in the country in the 1990s without internet and two TV channels was tough for discovering new music. At the time I was learning guitar and my parents would buy me issues of Guitar World, Guitar One and Metal Hammer and I would be in absolute awe reading interviews with guitar players from Metal bands and Punk bands. They were so brash, confident and badass but I never heard their music and could only imagine how killer it actually was. Up to that point the heaviest music I had ever heard was stuff like White Zombie, Ministry, Rammstein, Metallica, Soundgarden, Megadeth etc. It was stuff I remembered from Beavis and Butthead as a young kid in the early 90s when we had the channel in the city. But in the mid to late 90s we were country and that was all gone. The only tidbits I would get was from people at school or maybe a movie like Ace Ventura Pet Detective or Air Heads would give me a taste. One day my mom gave me an ad for Columbia House records. The deal was 12 cds for a penny each. I literally had hundreds of options and was overwhelmed. I blind picked stuff like Silverchair, Rage Against the Machine, The Offspring, Metallica, NOFX, Korn, Limp Bizkit and then two albums that completely blew my 13 year old mine into another dimension.That was Slayers - Diabolous in Musica and Fear Factory - Obsolete. These two albums, at the age of 13 the summer before highschool was like an absolute nuclear bomb going off and the type of cool shit I wanted and needed as a nervous teen just before the big leap into HS. I bought ab Obsolete Tshirt and I turned all my friends onto Fear Factory. Slayer was hit and miss with people but Fear Factory was just absolutely amazing. Futuristic, terminator-like end of the world concept type shit with industrial-machine like efficiency between the drums guitar and bass unlike anything I had ever heard. Burton C Bells absolutely original and unique vocals. Particularly, his soaring yet odd sounding cleans. Almost new waveish sounding, or even robotic sounding. They just made my imagination run wild in a dystopian nightmare trying to survive. I had a fender strat but wanted a 7string Ibanez so bad because of Dino. Never got one. But god damn this album is one of my favourites. There were albums as a young boy and budding musician that had a huge impact on me. This is one of them, in my personal top 10 forsure.

[@spaceburger80]

Really enjoyed reading your recollections from yesteryear. I was a traditional thrash metal nerd and anything that even smacked of “nu metal” already had two strikes against it as far as I was concerned. But a friend of mine gave me Demanufacture and… it utterly blew my mind. That album had the same super rare, revolutionary effect on me that Ride the Lightning provided. 90s and early Oughts FF were legendary. I was lucky enough to catch them live while touring in support of Digimortal and they were absolutely tight AF. Amazing show.

[@Odembackrd]

Why did you stop - is that the end of the story - enjoyed the reminded of the 90s - good times man great Music

[@danielleclair1360]

@@Odembackrd I still play. My kids are now playing. I have a jam room dedicated to the holy trinity. Guitar bass and drums.

[@Odembackrd]

@@danielleclair1360 me too bro I do it for a living 90s country and Southern rock, my two girls are learning too. When you said you grew up in the country and didn’t get to all I can remember was them antennas you had to turn around with that dial. Let’s write a boook 😆

[@danielleclair1360]

@@Odembackrd It was a giant RCA or Zenith TV and all we had was FOX(upstate NY-Buffalo) channel and a shitty channel like PBS or something. The only good thing on FOX in those times was Fear Factor, Seinfeld, Fraser and late at night the Howerd Stern show. Lol.

[@despisethespecies1990]

Securitron - Police State 2000 & Resurrection are absolute masterpieces, that's not to say the other tracks aren't but these are my personal favourites from the album, that breakdown synthesiser at the end of 2000 into Descent is *chefs kiss*

[@dionisioramirez6706]

Descent, and resurrection are my two faves off obsolete. Once it’s fall time, it’s time for obsolete.

[@user-iu5dk3dg1q]

FF my favorite band of all time,, Dino is the man.

[@Brando-Lee3725]

This brings up memories . I first heard FF on a compilation called Grindcore and Destruction 2 . And I cant remember the name of their song on there its been so long ago but I loved it .

[@NickSwe]

Obsolete is a masterpiece, it was def their peak, watch the vid with Rhys telling how he created the intro of Shock, pure genius.

[@adrianmixit1998]

The electric sampling Fear Factory did, changed metal.

[@dylancate3221]

The wave of BPM in Shock is literally MINDBLOWING!! The way they approached production and putting everything together is so amazing to me

[@bullyinspace]

I worked with FF 1996 /2001. Touring Europe and uk was amazing. Ozzfests etc. just absolute memories. Met the biggest bands on the world because of FF I’ll always love those times

[@timberwolvesxx7250]

massive respect to this band, they were pioneers of the 'sound' many others tried to replicate.

[@olegunnersolskjaer9189]

Tried to eclipse, did just that and then excelled

[@nebularain3338]

The sound that many tried to gatekeep as well. Amp sims and drum samples have long been the target of purists and snobs, but FF made it sound amazing!

[@ongboklichan]

I honestly love all of FF's records, but Obsolete is the most played by me. There's something in that album that's feral and leaves me craving more. I bought it on CD the day it came out at a convenience store in NC. Best damn lawn cutting money ever spent.

[@pikehunter23750]

I have the utmost respect for Dino. I remember way back when I saw ꟻF when they were on tour with Monster Magnet and Rob Zombie headlining. Monster Magnet played one full song and when the next song started, the crowd turned on them and started throwing shit. Something hit the lead singer in the head and he said fuck it and walked off. They did not return, so the curtain dropped and they set up ꟻF. As soon as they started playing, Dino laid down the law and said if anyone in the crowd threw shit at them, he would personally come down off the stage and whip some ass. It was AWESOME!!!!! They stole the show that night!

[@tedboom9550]

That tour changed my life. My first metal show ever. I was 11 and here in Toronto when monster magnet played this chick got onstage n blew the lead singer. Zombie was on a mission back then, could tell he was out to prove himself then

[@tedboom9550]

Dino loved spitting at the crowd back then tho I remember and Burton doing a freakout rolling all over the ground singing MARTYR

[@franciscoguardado5827]

I love Obsolete I discovered it in 2001 during my spring break in 8th grade, changed my life and opened the door to extreme metal for me.

[@DarkMatterBurrito]

Same for me with Demanufacture. I remember being in the Navy in 1995 and using that album as practice to get faster and more precise in rhythm playing. Thanks, Dino.

[@DeadlyFungi]

I remember buying this cd solely on the band name cover art. Happy to say I wasn't disappointed. Great album.

[@janosmarothy5409]

And he's not just throwing around that 190bpm number randomly. I listened to "Shock" right after this and sure enough, it sits at around 190, dude has great recall about all the little ins and outs of his material.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

That's bcos he wrote all the music. Creative ability underrated. He is the passion in FF. Never understand the logic of being left out of FF when it's always been his band.

[@Prismdub]

the bass hit in Shock would make my cd walkman skip

[@travisaus2689]

Scumgrief is still my favourite song .

[@christiaanbotha6247]

Fear is the mindkiller is one of the best Industrial singles ever made.

[@Rkitt8]

Thanks for this. I found FF at the release of Obsolete back in 98 as a kid. Maybe 11-12 years old. My first tattoo was the FF symbol from Soul of a New Machine years. I come back to FF every few years and I’ll tell you…I appreciate them so much more now. Absolutely legendary band and the 90’s era FF is like no other. Ground breaking. Heavy. Badass.

[@nunodarrell6606]

Dino “dead easy to make…goes like ta trrrrrr ta!” Garza: 🤣

[@fromaggio7654]

The story about thinking about riffs on the bus is so humbling, so many people having to take the bus to practice.

[@mliza7257]

Surveyed as the loudest metal album (of any metal genre) by MTV in 1998. I just wonder how they were able to be so loud but at the same time melodic. Truly a masterpiece.

[@Hheretic]

This band was so huge to me. Basically the complexities and intricacies of the drumming alone!

[@leadme2thebliss21]

I remember seeing them live and Dino was the one who really impressed me the most. They headlined the 2nd stage at Ozzfest in 1999 and that was a great performance!

[@Drummer2585]

One of the best metal albums of all time i still rock that sh*t 🤘😎

[@Lyonatan]

It's a shame how many metal heads don't even know Fear Factory. The Digimortal and Demanufacture are legendary.

[@tazblizzard]

Seriously? They were massive in the 90s, especially in Australia.

[@RRgolf201]

Saw them during this tour with Rob zombie and monster magnet and they were by far the best band on that tour

[@killingmyselftolive2526]

Nonsense, they can't hold a candle to Monster Magnet...

[@-Zer0Dark-]

Borrowed my grandmother's Jeep one day when I was about 17. I legitimately blew out her speakers with "Shock." Had to buy her new ones. lol

[@mmauddy]

I met them all at the big day out in nz years ago,total legends

[@blakkauldronmusic5280]

No one could f with FF for a hot min Other bands were mad jealous imo

[@Andyiswatching]

I remember go to the store and the guy working there says listen to this. It was Demanufacture it was so special a very special moment. FF was so special

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

Still is.

[@Timetofly8888]

"Dictaphone, you heard of that" ? "..umm nooo" "You never heard of that"?? "Nooooooo.." OK thanks for making me feel old at 42..

[@johnhaworth7034]

40 here. I'm as traumatised as you.

[@matturner6890]

*young, dictaphones are old

[@claudiasolomon1123]

I'm 41, I never heard of a Dictaphone until today.

[@liadain]

Me at 38 looking at this guy who hasn't heard of a dictaphone like 😬

[@wesdmf9373]

Obsolete, help me out through my teenage years going through some heavy things

[@bighock2886]

Ccchhhhh, There is a Fear Factory in this division.....

[@tubbytimmy66]

Obsolete & Digimortal we're fkn CLASSIC FF

[@misterbaker9728]

Still one of my favorite bands. I was on board since I found them on a compilation of new death metal bands.

[@DjJokerr]

Still my favorite album!

[@razattimusic]

man i love these stories I can relate as a creator to one of my idols. The work horse behind the music.

[@allenp920]

Obsolete is in my top 5 albums I wish I could hear on a £10,000 hi-fi

[@manicmurph]

I always loved the version of "cars" they did on that album. Demanufacture is a great album and one of my favorites. Then I think obsolete came out, then digimortal I think. All excellent stuff.

[@Brando-Lee3725]

I still love the song Edgecrusher ! That was gonna be my music to the ring at one point heh .

[@21stcenturymetal31]

These guys got me into the all super heavy stuff. They were my break threw band that opened me up to a few different genres.

[@sigmaramen]

0:14 the way Alex loses it after Dino does that

[@RolandDeschain1]

I'm a big fan of Rhys Fulber's project Conjure One. There's some great songwriting in there.

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

Most of the stuff he touches is gold. I love Front Line Assembly.

[@hazeykun]

Shock was amazing live! They had excellent light setups for the drums!!

[@graham13clark]

Dude's never heard of a dictaphone. Man I'm getting old!

[@FEARLESSx210]

Obsolete is my favorite album

[@RGT85]

Obsolete is one of the best metal albums ever. And the production is amazing. If you got a sub in your car it HITS.

[@EsotericOccultist]

Legend

[@blueridger28]

Dino is every musician I ever wanted to work with

[@Biodroid11]

Dino's machine gun riffs is a trademark

[@krazyhartin]

I love these stories. I'm watching clips of the podcast, now I gotta watch it. :)

[@SinnedToy]

First time hearing this podcast... You let the guest talk and ask all the right questions, plus have the right enthusiasm and input. Good job! Subscribed.

[@MrCyberschnitzel]

Pretty good interview ❤

[@douglasalfseike3867]

The message is tight still to today!

[@razmatazz9310]

"Raymond I got an idea! *bshhh drrr drrr*"

[@kriskaos80]

I want that shirt Dino 🤘🤘🤘

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

Obsolete,ironically it is anything but Obsolete.

[@gonzalonieto2495]

Dino Cazares, Andreas Kisser, or Kirk Hammet, are the Biggest...! LeadguitarS! ! in a yesterday & Today !!! 🇲🇽 🇧🇷 🇺🇸~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[@jerzeedevilduda1052]

Ressurection was an epiphany when i heard it. Obsolete was.

[@robertturner4168]

Best fn album!

[@Rob_Cary]

The dr rhythm boss drum machine....man that takes me back haha the one we have in the family is still kickin

[@jesseolson3142]

I miss Fear Factory. I would love to see Burton come back for 1 more tour. I seen them twice Ill do 3

[@timsayre8263]

I seen these guys at a little festival around '98. On Each Side Of the Stage The Promoters Hung Big Signs That Said 'No Moshing', One Guy From The Band Cut the Signs Down and threw them Into the Crowd Which Started A Huge Mosh Pit. That Was The Coolest Shit At That Festival, plus moshing on a Blacktop Is so Metal. Bloody Knees everywhere.

[@Alfredo78666]

- Gimme a trrtrrtrrtata

[@mememetal666]

Why doesn't he ask what happened to Raymond he was a beast on drums and one of the best drummers dino ever had?

[@fromdepthswerise3024]

Raymond had reportedly retired from drumming back in the 2010's.

[@dionisioramirez6706]

Dino probably told him I won’t do the podcast if you ask me about past members.

[@jamesclark6487]

Dicta phone: Dictation microphone. Just a small tape recorder. Like a voice recorder on any modern phone.

[@phutureproof]

Can I use your dicta phone? No you can use your finger like everyone else!

[@straw242_]

Would be cool to get Raymond back on the drums!

[@drrodopszin]

With my band I realized early that certain parts of a song are better played faster or slower depending on the mood - then we saw the BPM rates for Digimortal (verse 167 BPM, chorus 169 BPM, breakdown 160 BPM or things like this), so I made the clicktrack like that, based on the best rehearsal room recording. And it was a scandal in the studio :D. The recording engineer hated it, tried to flatten it, but then those parts really did sound rushed or too slow.

[@nathanwalsh3028]

Raymond the drummer was a pioneer in what kids do today. Too bad he does not get the credit he's so severely deserves!!!

[@dionisioramirez6706]

It’s because Dino always talks smack about his old members. He is like mustaine.

[@nathanwalsh3028]

@@dionisioramirez6706 I've noticed that. He likes taking credit for everything.

[@RolandDeschain1]

I remember Dino saying Raymond wasn't very good with his hands. But I guess 80% of the FF drum sound is the tight kick drums.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

​@nathanwalsh3028 he wrote all the music. Why shouldn't he get the credit? Listen, he wrote ALL the music, everyone's part.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

​@@nathanwalsh3028 He wrote the music. Why shouldn't he take the cred

[@EXSENTRIX]

🤘🏼💀🖤

[@johnsmodularjams2123]

"back in the day I didn't have a Dictaphone". Lol

[@scottymetalmusic1720]

Fear factory created the basics of djent

[@afterstars]

Meshuggah.

[@fabiogirardi2050]

Fear factory Leaders....Others Followers

[@mliza7257]

Obsolete should be the model of any metal album ever after. Toooo much power period.... end of story..... If not check out Shock Fist of the North Star vid.... and that is just the intro song which is one of their best ever!!!!!!

[@xx7secondsxx]

Fenriz of DarkThrone taught me about a dictaphone in UNTIL THE LIGHT TAKES US. The DEFINITIVE docu/film on MAYHEM & NORWAYS BLK METAL scene. To hell with LORDS OF CHAOS

[@cromBumny]

Saw them open for Iron Maiden

[@markk7731]

Korn's 1st album was amazing!

[@paullaing5921]

Wow...

[@thestarseeker8196]

8:00 SHOUTOUT TO VOICE MEMOS

[@Twobarpsi]

FF 🤘🤘🤘!!

[@ForLorNVuLgaR]

Thanks to FF we have bands like Sybreed that carried that sound further

[@MeshuggahFan-iy6tb]

0:14

[@Derpadeedooda]

Fear factory was way ahead of its time. Most metal core and death core is just copying fear factorys techniques

[@FEARLESSx210]

My user tag is FEARLESS because of Fear Factory

[@tgchan]

Thanks/

[@phantomofdadopera1797]

Foot remote ? Can u punch in n out with it?

[@fabioguanche8009]

O wow really? Yeah yeah totally yeah wow yeah yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah huge wow yeah

[@paulknowles6433]

Ok I feel old as shit now listening to that dictaphone description and the complete lack of knowing what one is 🤣🤣

[@matturner6890]

That should make you feel young, not old.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

​@@matturner6890And smart. Feel smart cos you know what it is.

[@JCsMyth]

0:14 That was the writing process 😂😂😂

[@manicmurph]

That just goes to show you that some of the best albums were written in a couple of months. When you take too much time on it then you should just scrap it and start over. Pantera wrote Vulgar in a month or so too. Leave it to Vinnie Paul to be a dick...lol. He was just jealous probably.

[@endezeichengrimm]

I wish people would make more organic albums now. And also stop compressing the life out of every mix.

[@leadme2thebliss21]

The bass player from Fear Factory loves Korn too. I watched this interview with Christian recently and he said the main reason he jumps on stage while he performs was because of Korn.

[@TheRealOne-hg1fl]

Kornholio