Director Vs Cinematographer: Who Does What?

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@SIBIRIAKcom
@SIBIRIAKcom 8 ай бұрын
it's great. but here's a more brutal comparison - Director vs. Assistant Director. I once was in extras and I remember how the director was showing off and the assistant was working his ass off getting lazy actors together, always on the radio, all sweaty, keeping track of the timeline and so and so and so.
@richardglady3009
@richardglady3009 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Your knowledge is overwhelming and your style in its presentation is amazing. Like most people, I am totally unaware of what exists behind the camera. You shed a little light today. Thank you.
@laurenbendik2006
@laurenbendik2006 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is interesting. I never understood what cinematography was before. It’s crazy how much goes into each shot!
@Jon_Dang
@Jon_Dang Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Appreciate the fine editing work to make the explanations so visually clear.
@mangobodybutter
@mangobodybutter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your clarification on this. You are one of my favorite sources of filmmaking education.
@rupal_hs
@rupal_hs Жыл бұрын
0:42 add a third person in chart : An editor
@Zombiesnyder13
@Zombiesnyder13 Жыл бұрын
I like when directors make sequels with a different crew It helps giving the movie a new identity
@wrecklessfilmsofficial
@wrecklessfilmsofficial Жыл бұрын
You can always tell a Rob Richardson film by the lighting. Whether its an Oliver Stone film, Tarantino film, Scorsese film, whatever. The mans stuff has a look.
@nomecognome8737
@nomecognome8737 Жыл бұрын
I agree but it's always related with the director's vision. I remember watching Bringing Out The Dead (Scorsese) and thinking it could've been an Oliver Stone movie because of that kind of very bright white lighting that you can see in JFK, Natural Born Killers and so on. Rob was the cinematographer for all of them. I couldn't tell it was him in Tarantino's films tho.
@jothishprabu8
@jothishprabu8 Жыл бұрын
DOPs are so underrated!!!
@priyanshukumar2476
@priyanshukumar2476 9 ай бұрын
Awesome Work. Please never stop.
@thestarkknightreturns
@thestarkknightreturns Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I like a movie just by its cinematography rather than its direction. Just goes to show how much cinematography can elevate a movie.
@imanolbourdoncle3466
@imanolbourdoncle3466 Жыл бұрын
Incredible video, as always !
@izabelribeiro1665
@izabelribeiro1665 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@braythirteen
@braythirteen Жыл бұрын
This is great! Thank you for putting this out!
@fernandooliveiralino
@fernandooliveiralino Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you so much.
@sidneyjacques.
@sidneyjacques. Жыл бұрын
very well done high quality video!!!
@bargrau20
@bargrau20 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome channel! Thank you 🙏
@Badutspringer
@Badutspringer Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I might be wrong, but I’ve never heard of a director highest in the hierarchy… the chain of command is Producer - Director and so on and so fourth…. On the set, the director is the boss. But not for the production.
@deadhorseproductions2477
@deadhorseproductions2477 Жыл бұрын
I was going to point that out too
@gregorylagrange
@gregorylagrange Жыл бұрын
Depends on if you're looking at the facilitator side or the creation side. You can say that producers aren't in the kitchen making the food with the chefs. But they are lining up health permits, getting a good location so a restaurant can be built. This video is about the kitchen side.
@dareallyst
@dareallyst Жыл бұрын
That caught my attention too
@andeleon6838
@andeleon6838 Жыл бұрын
great analogy @@gregorylagrange
@gregorylagrange
@gregorylagrange Жыл бұрын
@@andeleon6838 🎬🎥
@postrock12
@postrock12 9 ай бұрын
One of the best videos I’ve seen.🖤✨👏🎬Most are super simple & don’t cover so much.
@KuzminskiDP
@KuzminskiDP Жыл бұрын
Again thank you so much for every video you make for us!
@akashelangom038d4
@akashelangom038d4 Жыл бұрын
the best way I have been told to think about directors is "someone who doesn't know the arts of filmmaking" they need not have the technical knowldge, but purely the clear creative vision and then the collab with the techinicals to bring it to life.
@Frontigenics
@Frontigenics Жыл бұрын
I don't agree. Then there's literally no qualifications to be a director at all. Anyone can say they have a "creative vision" if there is a crew of hundreds to do the actual work for them.
@jessejroriginal
@jessejroriginal Жыл бұрын
Good thing is I'm usually both the director and cinematographer in my productions, so no chance for fights.
@johnclay7644
@johnclay7644 Жыл бұрын
informative comparison.
@angelthman1659
@angelthman1659 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@blessingottawa
@blessingottawa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great insight
@albertomojopena
@albertomojopena Жыл бұрын
great video!
@HeapsMad
@HeapsMad Жыл бұрын
great stuff
@UddinBat
@UddinBat Жыл бұрын
Great video!! learned a lot! 🔥
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Жыл бұрын
If they make another BLADE RUNNER They need to hire Hoyte Van Hoytema
@Julian97MetalFighter
@Julian97MetalFighter Жыл бұрын
I would add the cinematographer of Nicolas Winding Refn movies with Gosling. Or just Nicolas itself directing. Fincher's cinematographer also comes to mind
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Жыл бұрын
@@Julian97MetalFighter except maybe for Jeff Cronenweth I'm not a fan of underexposed cinematography
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR Жыл бұрын
I prefer Wally Pfister
@jbchannel88
@jbchannel88 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel!
@davidsarrio1260
@davidsarrio1260 Жыл бұрын
greats directors choices theirs lenses (or just director who know his works) ...Or works with DP who use to work with lenses that director wants to use...
@allanvanuga9196
@allanvanuga9196 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@ghonnh20
@ghonnh20 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@tochiRTA
@tochiRTA 9 ай бұрын
great video
@4-dan371
@4-dan371 Жыл бұрын
Something I still don't understand is, how do you sell a movie to a producer if you don't have a shot list and you want to create the shots on set or how to do it without a shooting plan?
@paimei2339
@paimei2339 Жыл бұрын
Watch pitch meetings
@4-dan371
@4-dan371 Жыл бұрын
@@paimei2339 this is the only way to gain the trust of a producer when u don't have a plan for how long u can take filming and what materials would u need?
@jn-xw3cq
@jn-xw3cq Жыл бұрын
That would be an extremely difficult task since production companies want as much assurance for a film idea as possible. A full length feature film is a lot to get into. One way to do what you're asking, is to just have a really good script and nail your pitch line. Then shot lists and storyboards will follow. I don't know of any movie sets in the mainstream that will do shots on the fly entirely. Everyone wants and needs a plan to create a movie, so just finding out the shots on the fly is scary. Also, finding shots on the fly will take you 10 times longer since you have re-set-up all your lights and will tick off the gaffing/lighting unit. Sorry, that was a lot just to say it'd be very difficult to get that done.
@jn-xw3cq
@jn-xw3cq Жыл бұрын
For clarification, I'm a film student in college and from the short film sets I've done or worked on, everyone needs the director and/or cinematographer to have a very strong and solid vision before shooting, especially the assistant director. The whole job of the AD is get everyone to the finish line of the film on time one day at a time. On set during the shoot, there's so many problems that can arise and delay the shoot. Often, you won't even get all the shots you wanted for the one scene you were shooting that day. Having a shot list and storyboard helps get you to the finish line for the scene even if you have to throw out a shot or two. And you might find a shot that you hadn't planned out but that adds time. In those cases the director, cinematographer, and assistant director might argue over the necessity or amount of time left to achieve that and all the other needed shots. There's a ton of paperwork and planning that has to go into doing a film, even just a short one perhaps. Now, a really small film with friends or amateurs can and often be completely different. You can get away with stuff on the small side. But the higher budget you go, the more people and the more paperwork and work will have to be done before shooting is even scheduled. It's an interesting industry and I've only been learning about for a little over a year now in the university film department.
@4-dan371
@4-dan371 Жыл бұрын
@@jn-xw3cq yes of course, I know that. I also study film, but in the case of films like Wong-Kar Wai or Phantom Tread (that the shoots are made on the fly), or Jaws or Apocalypse Now, they are films that were made without a script and that means without a shoot list and all the paperwork afterwards.
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Жыл бұрын
When you say the DP has control over the lighting, what about the Gaffer? How does that collaboration work.
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau Жыл бұрын
The Gaffer does what the DP need them to do. DP is head of lighting, the Gaffer is head of setting up the lighting. So if the DP says, I’m looking to have this kind of lighting, with a so & so contrast ratio, and we’re shooting at T2.8, the Gaffer would take that information and direct his team of electrics to get that lighting set up in a way that works with the DP’s needs.
@reptongeek
@reptongeek Жыл бұрын
@@Eyeofkamau But who does the lighting and grip plans for instance. I know some DP's do that, Roger Deakins and Phil Meheux for instance but do some DP's let their gaffers do that
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau Жыл бұрын
@@reptongeek the DP provides the blueprint while the Gaffer and Grip (which are separate) execute it in whatever way allows them to get what the DP needs. I saw “whatever way” because the approach could vary depending on the equipment that a gaffer or grip has or is limited to, but they would get the job done regardless. Gaffer and his team of electrics handle the lighting & electrical while the Key grip and his team handle the setting up of nonelectrical rigging like equipment for dolly, jib, crane shots and car rigs. Grips may crossover into electric department at times depending on the set. Both departments’ decisions & set ups are based on information given to them by DP/Cinematographer, and Director of course.
@alexanderisacc_
@alexanderisacc_ Жыл бұрын
one of my fav channels :)
@yochintohere
@yochintohere Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ragulashashivardhanshashi319
@ragulashashivardhanshashi319 Жыл бұрын
Anyone please explain, what's the difference between staging and blocking?
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau Жыл бұрын
Blocking is formulating the talent’s position and/or movement and how they interacting with their environment throughout scene. Staging is the placement and movement of any objects in the frame, including the camera relative to the blocking of the scene. The two are similar but separate, yet, work in conjunction.
@onuohaudochukwu6180
@onuohaudochukwu6180 Жыл бұрын
Blocking is the placement/movement of actors in the frame while staging is the placement/movement of the camera
@dagonzalez1757
@dagonzalez1757 Жыл бұрын
Do directors pick the cinematrographer?
@helloworldx10
@helloworldx10 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much always.
@ShamellAntone
@ShamellAntone Жыл бұрын
Good vid..
@LycanVisuals
@LycanVisuals Жыл бұрын
Indie filmmakers: I'll be both at the same time...
@helloworld-sl2lw
@helloworld-sl2lw 6 ай бұрын
Interesting
@bimoasto
@bimoasto Жыл бұрын
Nice 😍
@maxjones503
@maxjones503 Жыл бұрын
Poor production designers...
@sushinskiy
@sushinskiy Жыл бұрын
Producer seems to be more powerful person in filmmaking process. Maybe other type of producer? But in this scheme Director pretending to be the top-1 person, such Producer that seems not presented.
@emmanuelbiruk2652
@emmanuelbiruk2652 Жыл бұрын
thank you I am learning a lot
@MirrorReaper1
@MirrorReaper1 Жыл бұрын
Since when is the producer below a director? :/ Have you not heard of the thousands of films having production related problems where directors usually get fired or not allowed to cut their films by the producers? Weird blunder.
@kuramobay2445
@kuramobay2445 Жыл бұрын
The director is the individual responsible for making the film. The producer is a facilitator. On the set when the film is being shot the director is the boss. Now, producers have been known to throw their weight around on the set, but this often hurts the end product.
@CineGui
@CineGui Жыл бұрын
Executive producers
@__________________2450
@__________________2450 Жыл бұрын
It differs from industries to industries and projects to projects. I work in an Industry where Directors are above Producers. Even in Hollywood I know that Directors have upper hand in lots of aspects.
@nomecognome8737
@nomecognome8737 Жыл бұрын
Producer is too vague of a term that doesn't really mean always the same thing. Sometimes producers really only finance a movie. Sometimes they work with the directors, but ultimately, the director is the boss. What you see on screen is what the director had in mind and created. If you watch a nice movie and go see who produced it thinking "oh, this producer must be good" you're insane lol. Brad Pitt was one of the producers of The Departed. You think Brad Pitt, actor who never even wrote a screenplay and certainly never directed a movie, had decisional power over MARTIN SCORSESE? Or that he had really anything to do with how the movie came to be, looked, or felt like, or that any of that was his vision? Lol. Only people that matter are the the director and the screenwriter. Plus actors, of course. Edit: not to forget about all the crew behind it, cinematographers, set decorators, editors and so on. I'm just saying the concept of the movie, the story, dialogue, visual style has mainly to do with who actually made the film happen in the first place
@MirrorReaper1
@MirrorReaper1 Жыл бұрын
@@nomecognome8737 Martin Scorsese having his way with how his films end up being, something that's obviously expected of someone of his caliber, does not mean every director is in the same boat. Look up what Ridley Scott went through during the production of Blade Runner and Legend, or what transpired during Alien 3 with David Fincher, or even recently where Robert Eggers was not allowed to edit The Northman to his liking. Creatively, and ideally, yes, what you're seeing should be the director's vision, and should always be, but it's not like that practically speaking.
@morucek
@morucek Ай бұрын
Tim Burton 💯 Lighting 💯 aspect ratio 😂
@Watch.Write.Ramble
@Watch.Write.Ramble 10 күн бұрын
so can a director be successful without knowing too much photography?
@WhisDraws
@WhisDraws Жыл бұрын
What movie is this one 12:30 ?
@LucaLawson
@LucaLawson Жыл бұрын
The Revenant
@shansathia
@shansathia Жыл бұрын
You gave wrong information about cinematographer , cinematographer does, composition, lighting ,blocking, camera movement according to the scene, they collaborate with director,production design, costume design, makeup, CG team and cinematographer does action continuity, set continuity, looks continuity, costume continuity,makeup continuity ,and they created visuals for editing based some shots, they control light ,camera,grips, electrical, and finally DI color grading . Cinematographer does lot of work but you mention very less. You Singing praises only director and cinematographer does very less. You points are very narrow. Did you watched shooting first
@Eyeofkamau
@Eyeofkamau Жыл бұрын
This isn’t true at all. There are completely different departments for all of that. The cinematographer handles cinematography - filming/composition, lighting, shot listing, etc. The cinematographer may have say in things like blocking but it is not the job of the cinematographer. Nor is production design, make up or any of that. There is a Production Designer and entire art department for that. Unless one is working in some sort of no-budget film where everyone is doing everything… The Cinematographer works in the Camera Department and only that. Otherwise, they aren’t a cinematographer lol, they’re a Cinematographer, Director, Production Designing, Art Directing, Make-up Artist Producer lol. Which simply is not the case on any professional set
@DDR131
@DDR131 Жыл бұрын
Inside Lewyn Davis cinematography is not realistic. I hate those movies that doesn't have realistic cinematography. Some movies it works because of its stories but here it is more anxiety inducing and it makes me vomit. Enemy (Denis Villeneuve) doesn't have realistic cinematography neither it makes me vomit and it's a very good example how it should be handled. These people only consider great cinematography it has a trademark but that is utmost stupid, a great cinematography is when I can breathe and feel the essence of the environment or nature. When a blue ocean doesn't look blue ocean it is like I'm seeing distopian world or humans are to be extinct. I need to live and the environment around character. Also too much lighting in one room these days, the 90s and 2000s were great. In those times when they used to use those simpler bulbs that were less flashy.
@johnfitzpatrick3094
@johnfitzpatrick3094 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I don't watch movies with you.
@SOLIDSNAKE.
@SOLIDSNAKE. Жыл бұрын
​@@johnfitzpatrick3094no he makes sense, they look of films has definitely changed
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