OceanBlock Ep29 Cursed Earth is Cursed

[@DizzyDJW]

I love that Dire, the person that created Building Gadgets, forgot the entire point of "Place on Top". I.E. If you have it on, the number of blocks specified are placed "on top" of the block being looked at, if it's off, you are effectively placing the first block "inside" the block being looked at.

[@codysurfer8232]

tangentially that is also a great explanation that helped me figure out why I was having so much trouble building with my building gadget

[@crushingbass7131]

Right? He's forgetting a lot lately, its a problem with getting older. I'm 36 and forgetting stuff constantly and I believe he's older than me.

[@pocketsizedweeb]

It is also about the time Dire rewrites the mod anyways. We are almost at 1.18 and he said that Building Gadgets is a 1.12 mod. I think with everything 1.18 is doing, a rewrite of most mods should be in order.

[@DizzyDJW]

@@pocketsizedweeb If he rewrites it, I think an upgrade that allows for the storage of blocks inside the Building, Exchanging, and Copy/Paste Gadgets would be cool. Like a Dank Null upgrade. Espcially now that they can place entity blocks which construction paste cannot replicate

[@SkullCrusher757]

@@pocketsizedweeb even most minor mods get rewrites every few versions. For example me. Crayfish updates his mods as often as nessesary

[@xoxoyomama1289]

For mob spawning: Other have pointed out that water buckets work great to toggle it. In my playthough, however, I considered using 2 builders w/ a lever to swap dirt/cursed earth. I never did it. But it might be a neat approach to watch. Thanks for all the quality content!

[@DizzyDJW]

The water buckets don't work because vanilla mobs will still spawn, and if you use both water and lights the cursed earth reverts back to dirt.

[@xoxoyomama1289]

@@DizzyDJW Ahh gotcha. I haven't tested that for myself. Did you make any way to toggle it? I ended up just letting it run endlessly

[@eumim8020]

@@DizzyDJW Water really worked for me, reducing spawns to negligible amounts and if set up right you can push them into a corner helping with maintenance. I also set a SCRAM by making a little chimney over the mob spawn where you can open with a piston letting a little bit of light through but not directly destroying only the middle block of cursed earth while stopping the mob spawns with a water source down the chimney

[@BahamutXER]

I find i nigh-on comical that dire picked the EXACT Lighting fixture that he already had 2 of as a quest reward and NEVER NOTICED the spares in his Refined storage system

[@marvinjay1509]

KZbinr blindness is a thing.

[@Kraleck]

@@marvinjay1509 Dire's KZbinr blindness and attention span combine to be severe enough to border on Naked Gun Forehead Slap moments.

[@tim.dedopulos]

The Distracted Boyfriend Meme, but it's Dire with his arm around elegant vanilla mechanics, craning round to eye up convoluted and janky mods that can be forced to do the same thing unreliably. Which is what we watch for, of course.

[@cgibbard]

Dire has never had his arm around vanilla mechanics though.

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

You could turn each seed into 2 essence in the seed reprocessor. If that's something you'd want. There are also frames which take whatever block you boop them with. Haven't tested if they behave like microblocks.

[@Jdogbites]

You need some seeds to make creative essence

[@SirDarknez]

To stop the cursed earth to spawn mob you can use water dire, a tip in advance

[@robertpickel2447]

Yep. I just used a dispenser with a water bucket.

[@longrange1977]

He already used that exact mechanic on the blessed earth too...

[@joshuahellfire3287]

Or you could, you know, just leave it running?

[@mrnice4434]

@@joshuahellfire3287 yeah I don't see a problem in letting it run on a solo player world. Just drawer and void upgrade to prevent overflow from items..

[@robertpickel2447]

@@joshuahellfire3287 I actually do leave it running but wanted to be able to turn it off if I needed to change things up. (Add/change a spawner, etc.)

[@wahalvibhu]

Dire if you're gonna automate mystical agriculture essence you'll need to use the rftools crafter because refined storage is funky and does not recognise the master crystal as a reusable item.

[@imsaghaugsag6717]

Refined storage also turns the master crystal into a regular crystal if using autocrafting. An interesting bug I've found

[@NeMMyPooH]

I’m pretty sure you received a mob crusher through a quest reward, also you have a good jet pack and pretty good power generation so you could sustain flight with your flux network

[@matteo6149]

You can make great and unbreakable tools with Semi-stable ingots (The axe gives you saturation)

[@tears_of_asariel3198]

saturation is so op... thats why i love the karrot mod.. no idea if thats what its actually called, but u get carrots that give u saturation and night vision for like 5 mins.. its the only food i ever use when its available, not to mention the resistance and regeneration from diamond/emerald carrots.. makes fighting bosses a breeze.. if they dont 1-2 shot you, theres no worry of death lol

[@ICountFrom0]

Do the semi-stable ingots explode, like the old days?

[@Scooter30FTW]

@@ICountFrom0 Not in this pack,but Dire said the config can be changed to do that.

[@ICountFrom0]

I felt silly for asking when he answered it in the next episode, but hay, better to ask and get egg on my face, then to risk never knowing, eh?

[@tears_of_asariel3198]

@@ICountFrom0 a person that asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes.. a person that doesnt ask is a fool for all their days.

[@matrix626]

I am still blown away that Dire hasnt hooked his farm into the system yet...

[@Arcella1981]

yeah me too, i was just thinking it wouldnt be that hard to just connect a external storage to the controller that has the essence

[@slartimus]

@@Arcella1981 He's already explained that he doesn't want to run a big long cable from his RS system over to his farm area, and thus is holding off on integrating the farm until he has everything set up for wireless networking.

[@Amphidsf]

I'd just make a dirt line connecting to a dark "room" Holding a single seed block of cursed earth with a top slab over it to prevent spawns. You flip the light switch off the Earth spreads activating the room, you switch the light on and it burns away the "Grown" cursed earth which is in the spawnable area and thus turns off the spawner. It would be a little slow going from On to Off, but it looks neat in my mind eye.

[@ZeetMcFeet]

Great concept. I don't see why you wouldn't just surround the room on three sides with a row of protected seed blocks though, speed up that startup phase.

[@ThePoxun]

The easiest thing to do is just set it up so you don't need to turn it off and any automated killing has sufficient storage for anything you want to keep and void routing for anything else. Also blursed earth is often better as you will also get passive mob drops like leather, feathers, wool, meat etc. Not to mention all the dolphin deaths.. they had it coming.. they looked at me funny with their little black beady eyes :)

[@try2bcool]

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[@davidgibson1551]

I was thinking this. What’s the problem with having a permanent mob farm just fully automated? Lol

[@augustbortz6104]

How do you eliminate the bows and potions and stuff that’s enchanted?

[@Vilifico]

@@augustbortz6104 You can pipe it into a trashcan if you just want to get rid of it. However, at some point, all those potions are great fuel for the potion mycelial generator, and the enchanted gear for the disenchantment mycelial generator. Also, all the unenchanted gear can be ran through a recycler for resources, if you want max efficiency. Another bit of advice: use any supreme machine frames you get as quest rewards very wisely...

[@ThePoxun]

@@augustbortz6104 usually i feed a drawer system so only things i want go in and a holding chest that should remain empty for anyuthing i dont want. Filtered trash cans/pipes configured to ignore nbt tags get added pulling from the holding chest - depending what it is in this pack some things go to recycle instead

[@xn85d2]

So Dire builds his bed out in the open, and goes to sleep during pouring rain. Then he counters the rain by wearing a wetsuit to bed. This is why isolation is bad for you, folks.

[@InstrucTube]

Dire, remember how you were having basalt issues for your sieve? Look at the top left of the chisel menu for your raw chiseled basalt. 10:00. Crush it. But make seeds first. Also remember to read the quest book entries. It tells you all about how various things work.

[@sadmate_]

Dire reads things?

[@Ammonium-ow6pd]

He was processing basalt for the netherite and now that he has netherite seeds I guess he stopped sieving it

[@gregresnik1830]

@@sadmate_ No... Not if they are quest entries

[@KuruGDI]

@Dire: You got a part of a Windmill. I think the game wants you to build a windmill and power your base of that sweet renewable energy.

[@ibrahimpekcan2863]

you can use like rftools builder or rs constructors or just dropper and bucket of water for turn on/off

[@sadmate_]

It works like a regular grass. Wouldn't pouring water on it also destroy the cursed grass itself?

[@ibrahimpekcan2863]

@@sadmate_yok kardeş bozmuyor

[@FieryMeltman]

@@sadmate_ water does not destroy it. It's destroyed if it is exposed to too much light.

[@daniellepashayan773]

I second this, water bucket with dispenser is how I’m controlling mine

[@rainmaker709]

Feral Flare Lantern places a Light Block in any >7 block in a radius around it. It is a set number of blocks away and I can't remember anymore if it is cube or sphere shaped. I have mentioned it many times in many different series.

[@JanneRanta]

I got that compressed XP as a quest reward. I accidentaly consumed it. I got well over 6000 level.

[@G0ldnFen1x]

Same. Tried draining into a using the XP Singularity Drain and it filled up without taking a single level. xD

[@Spongman]

@@G0ldnFen1x pump the drain into xp jelly babies, and pump those into a mob grinding utils spawner for your wither skeleton heads.

[@permeus2nd]

1:34 I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that later on dire finds blood or mob essence in the furnace as that thing can be a mob spawner in its own right, but that noise could also be a drowned trapped in that one block column of empty space under each of his planters.

[@josephkrug8579]

Could you use sticky pistons to push it out from under two blocks (where it was dark), into the room, spawn then pull it back under when you want to disable it?

[@JTMC93]

That exchanger setup you mention needing a mechanical user style block for just screams to be made a single block and added to the Building Gadgets mod.

[@hexxh514]

water will keep them from spawning you could use a dispenser and a bucket with water in it

[@Nyquil98]

I like how mini utilities has a placer and a breaker and instead of using those directly he's trying to do a convoluted method of using the placer to use an exchanger. Alright then

[@C.J.33]

Others have pointed out that you could use water over the Cursed Earth to prevent spawns, but since this is Dire and I'm curious... 1) are advanced drawbridges in this pack and 2) If you placed Cursed Earth in one of the drawbridges, would it spawn mobs like normal? Just have 2 drawbridge setups, one to place and retract dirt or whatever block and another setup opposite to do the same with Cursed Earth? Just have them on a NOR??? gate. Whichever gate to turn one off while the other is off. Basically the switch of the Etho hopper clock.

[@C.J.33]

Or just leave the floor the same and place the bridges above it so once the CE is gone it's just a matter of time that the mobs go away and you're left in an empty room that you could then turn the lights on to tinker around or whatever.

[@istvan0329]

Dire you can automate the cursed earth mob spanwer with a bucket of water. With a dispenser you can pour water on the cursed earth with a filp of a lever.

[@crushingbass7131]

I've tried, it doesn't stop spawning completely.

[@mantabloke8141]

you could use constructors and destructors working on redstone signal with using the linking block

[@csabi985]

Okay so very dumb and vanilla idea but what if you just set up pistons that push blocks on top of the cursed earth on a lever switch? I dunno if the mobs would still spawn but going out of the blessed earth they prolly won't.

[@talonca8362]

I had this exact thought!

[@scamp5000]

To stop cursed earth, what if you use a system that places and removes something on top of the cursed earth, either water or another block? Like you should do with your passive mob farm and blessed earth.

[@doughnut_panda]

All the types of dirt on Mini utilities need to be in the dark, except for blessed earth.

[@dfbndslv]

ae2 anihilation panes could exchange the cursed earth

[@toddhoward1892]

Dire, even though everybody is telling you what to do and acting like its the end of the world, we all watch because it is YOU playing and making it interesting. If anybody else played these techy packs, I might fall asleep, but you find a way to keep things interesting, and for that I commend you.

[@Plorpoise]

Does he read comments? This is my first direwolf let's play I've watched, so it hasn't really seemed like he's read any. Even if he doesn't, I like the comments anyways. They help me in my own playthrough :P

[@AstebrookeYT]

@@Plorpoise He's mentioned in a few previous episodes what people were saying in the comments, but with how he goes multiple episodes ahead and solves the thing before he mentions the comments I'm not certain how frequently he visits the gold mine that is the collective brain of his viewers.

[@supersonictumbleweed]

Funny how mystical agriculture progression seems so long at first, but too short once one gets Refined Storage

[@BrentLorend]

My (admittedly very vanilla) method of closing off the cursed earth involved a dispenser, an observer, a water bucket, a single dot of redstone, and a method to move an RS signal to the redstone (wireless transmitter/receiver) place the water bucket inside the dispenser, dispenser in the center of the cursed earth or in wall (doesn't matter in the long run), the observer outputting to the dispenser, and the redstone dot acting as the on/off switch for the observer. make sure the signal doesn't change more than once every 2 ticks (and honestly, if you're clicking it more than that, why?) and it should be fine.

[@HeldenBuch1]

the way i always build my mobfarms is to make sure they can run forever... no on/off switch and no light i see for myself no problem there

[@joshuahellfire3287]

EXACTLY! I was raging so hard this entire episode

[@Sgt.Morrigahn]

Place a dispenser with water in the ceiling, in the middle .. it will spread on the floor and not ruin the cursed earth. Hook the dispenser up to a lever to turn on/off

[@wood0366]

Another thing you can do is put something over one block of the cursed/blursed earth to allow it to respread.

[@friedpistachios]

If you have rftools, ,and some excess power, you could turn a shield on and off over the top layer. Water bucket would work too, if you can stomach the running water sound all the time - unless you mute it.

[@Firehedgehog]

teh best work around i saw was dispensers with water in them using the water to turn the cursed earth on and off

[@Armetron]

Dire a potential solution would be to use Drawbridge blocks from Tinker's construct to made a 'bridge' over the cursed earth to turn it off. I'm not sure if cursed earth converts to dirt if covered but it's worth a shot

[@infinitivez]

It doesn't revert if something is placed over it. I'm wondering if string and carpet would work just as well now. Gonna go try that!

[@wolframstahl1263]

Will flooding the place turn off mob spawns on cursed earth (without destroying it)?

[@Bariel76]

Dispenser with a Water bucket stops the cursed earth from working

[@siskafeys9681]

Water turns mobspawning off.

[@danielboothman567]

Are there any drawbridge blocks to 'roll out' the cursed earth?

[@roscocsa]

collect the junk, leave it running in the dark and void the overflow. much easier than on/off

[@HiFi5i]

Leave the spawning room dark and use a dispenser with a bucket of water to flood the room to turn off mob spawning.

[@littlekittens2011]

If water stops the cursed earth, you could use a sticky piston to drop water onto the cursed earth.

[@hobbit4444]

Potentially you could use destructors to destroy dirt and an rftools builder to place the cursed earth.

[@Kaikaku]

A slow version could be to break/place cursed earth at only the cornes. Put glowstone below so the light will slowly turn everything back to dirt. Btw I have my mob farm running 24/7. With a recycler you get e.g. gold from it.

[@falxie_]

Maybe if and when you recode building gadgets you can call "horizontal walls" floors haha

[@Broadpaw_Fox]

But what about ceilings? 😜

[@TheOne20001]

Range probably counts the block clicked on as one of the ones being placed

[@devKazuto]

You can disable the cursed earth by "flooding" it with water.

[@Saijansfavorites]

instead of having a whole floor of cursed earth, why not make it smaller, and just have 1 or 2 squares of cursed earth, and just have a mob killer take care of it. then all you would have to do is just hook it up to some power and set up a drawer system with void upgrades to handle the excess. would be a good use of the solar panel you aren't using anymore and a energy cube.

[@TerryTrent]

Have to be honest, really disappointed with the lack of universal facades in this mod, really would like something to cover refined storage cables

[@try2bcool]

Always overcomplicating things when you could use a dispenser with a bucket of water to cover the cursed earth to shut it off.

[@PockitBoxProductions]

hidden cursed earth that spreads with the light off

[@HoundRogerson]

@Direwolf20 You might want to heavily investigate armor, it can be abused so badly that you can take repeated Creeper blasts and not even notice.

[@Arcella1981]

you can use water to turn on and off cursed earth, wich means you can put water buckets in a dispenser to turn it on and off

[@SurrealNirvana]

Made the mistake of using the building gadget to try and lay some refined storage cabling, not only crashed my game but also corrupted my save 🥲🥲 yay for backups.

[@sanca4284]

Building gadgets was originally not supposed to work with tile entities, this isn't the first time I've seen people say using it on tile entities crashing them and corrupting things. I'm not sure when it started allowing you to use it on them but it is still best not to.

[@ijzm]

I did the same, downloaded AmuletMC (Basically MCEdit for 1.16), deleted the blocks that I placed and was able to go back to the same save

[@infinitivez]

@@ijzm Oh thanks for that, I didn't know about AmuletMC! What a "world saver" !!!!

[@vivelle]

use the constructor/destructor from refined storage, with a switch to toggle the cables.

[@dazley8021]

no matter how much you texture a cube, it still remains a cube hahaha

[@bob76451]

@direwolf20 Use a set of Builders: one with Cursed Earth and the other with dirt, and just have them alternate with a lever. Or you can also cover the Cursed Earth with water (using a dispenser with a water bucket inside) to shut them off.

[@alexandteganwalder]

should make a seed reprocessor and get the extra essence

[@chrisrodriguez8599]

You could also use pistons to move a block over the cursed earth.

[@chrisrodriguez8599]

Use a Constructor/Destructor to place/remove the cursed earth. Have a lever to change toggle it.

[@coreyeaston6823]

Maybe drop the cured earth down two levels with pistons and then spikes in from the sides (one level down) to kill any mobs left in the room at the same time covering the cursed earth? Think old fashioned Indiana Jones temple trap? Could be fun.

[@ToasterUnknown]

You also have another mod called Simply Light in the pack which adds a bunch of nice looking lights.

[@ICountFrom0]

Redpower without Eloram still feels a bit hollow, dosen't it?

[@DaftCatBrewing]

Cover cursed earth with water to stop mobs spawning. EG dispenser with a water bucket

[@Khronosian]

Instead of exchangers or pistons, may I suggest RFTools Shield Blocks, or possibly a builder? Or possibly a Drawbridge, if that's in the pack. Many possibilities.

[@redracerb18]

If your going to rebuild Building gadgets then make your own mechanical user in the mod. You could also make a separate mod that adds good proper cursed earth on its own

[@jojoj81Gaming]

If the cursed earth doesn't require silk touch, any reason not to use refined storage constructor/destructor pairs to automate?

[@jojoj81Gaming]

Probably worth testing the *do creepers destroy my stuff* thing before spending too much resources on it!

[@dragonfireproductions790]

Using dispenser and water works to toggle it

[@regiliok]

dire if u want to use cursed eart no matter what there are ways to forcefuly stop the spawning and then just no longer stop it

[@PunkiieTutoYTofficielLeVrai]

I used the placer and miner to face the same block to place and remove cursed earth at will

[@hivebrain]

Do tinkers drawbridges still exist? You could use those to fill the spawn space with glass.

[@jumpierwolf]

Autonomous Activator is a thing.

[@zaftnotameni]

oh dire... just put a dispenser with a bucket of water on top to turn spawns on/off....

[@T-Bonebubba]

It seems that if you turn out the lights the dirt turns back into the cursed Earth

[@Kzorith]

Well, yes. The cursed earth will spread to other dirt blocks in the dark. It would do that if you put a single cursed earth in the middle of bunch of dirt blocks that were not previously cursed earth too.

[@michaelboucher7645]

You could use constructers and deconstructs from RS!!

[@djman256]

Exchanging Gadget acts as silk touch. Just, FYI.

[@TheAllStarGamers100]

Hello direwolf20, an easier option for “turning off” the cursed earth is to have a building gadget place blocks/undo onto the cursed earth. I don’t believe the cursed earth reacts to blocks “trampling” the earth into dirt. (I have not looked at the code though) nor could I understand 90%.

[@ToasterUnknown]

I hate that light level does not stop mobs from spawning on this Cursed Earth. It makes managing a mob farm difficult. Then there are concerns with servers and lag in general if things get out of control and you cant stop the spawns with the flick of a switch. The problem sorta solves itself with light but it isn't instant as when exposed to any light there is a high chance the Cursed Earth turns to dirt when a mob spawns so eventually with light it will stop via it all turning to dirt but it's not ideal. So I added a Cursed Earth Mod :P

[@infinitivez]

Oh the actual cursed earth mod react with lighting then? That's a relief. I might just go that route. I was looking at it just recently wondering, hmmm.. will it do it? I just can't believe the miniutilities author would change cursed earth so drastically, and NOT have a config option for its original behavior. It's a bit annoying.

[@ToasterUnknown]

@@infinitivez Its been reported as a bug but he has not really replied to it.

[@JDKempton]

Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder

[@connerroark3421]

I wanna see a time in the bottle update at the start of each episode I'm just always curious about how much time it has

[@Runeswik]

Cursed Earth and blessed earth can't survive in spaces that are lit up when spawning something. Makes it really difficult to have a mob farm that you can toggle and change, but it is doable. Also if something is placed on top it turns it to dirt too.

[@wood0366]

Something that annoys me with Building Gadgets is that it puts slabs on the upper side, not the lower. I build all my platforms on the lower part because mobs can't spawn on slabs on the lower side of the block.

[@sypoo2120]

water turns off spawn mobs on cursed earth

[@siggystroo]

PRO TIP: Use water to turn off spawn, remove water to turn on spawn! :D

[@joshuahellfire3287]

For what reason would you have to turn off cursed earth.............just leave it on

[@tylerholliday3896]

Dire. The feral flare has a UI

[@LUNAMUSRAGNAROK]

Could you use the constructors and destructors from refined storage to replace the dirt 1 block from the wall and leave the center area normal dirt? I don't know if the destructor/constructor would block light like the wall would.

[@lrayzor]

a ring of sticky pistons to cover up the cursed earth could work, leaving the centre as a stone block so it doesn't spread to it, if you wanted to go vanilla

[@sevenlances]

can you use constructors and destructors?

[@PatrickGiorlando]

Dire, RFTools Builder and Shape Cards!

[@Mo0odMC]

Water on top of any of the earths stops them from spawning creatures

[@liam7342]

Set it up to draws with void blocks, you don't need to turn it off

[@dfbndslv]

as a compulsive hoarder of everything in minecraft those void upgrades on storage hurt

[@longrange1977]

Especially on the seeds, each one is two extra essence in the reprocessor...

[@joshuahellfire3287]

True but there is no point when he has infinite resource gen, tbh I wish he'd go ham like I do in my playthroughs. In the same amount of time as he's played the pack I have full farms of each resource crop with max growth accelerators as well. Well over 2 million of each resource

[@FARBerserker]

Does Mekanism Armor not have Scuba Diving Capabilities?

[@InstrucTube]

It does, though it was added in a recent update to be compatible with better diving, so....

[@Spongman]

just use a water bucket in a dispenser!

[@JeffreyBoser]

flight from supreme armor is turned off in the modpack, no idea why.