Dirt Rally 2.0 - Historic RWD - How to Tame the Oversteer

[@deadredeyes]

Thank you! Was having such a hard time with the RWD class and this certainly helps tame the ridiculous amount of oversteer on throttle, well, that and setting the gearbox up to not be so short.

[@shadw008]

Thank you so much. Finished the classic rally H1 with little difficulty. Started H2 RWD, and I could barely control the vehicle. Will give this a try, thank you.

[@IK47-d2l]

Same here, the difficulty of the Handling spikes drastically

[@johnsmith-wo4fr]

These cars really do show how difficult rally driving was in the old days, not to mention the Group B monsters, but it's so rewarding once you get the throttle modulation right. Almost like surfing. Having said that, these settongs help a lot. Thank you.

[@0zone247]

Id rather run myself over with my wasted purchase of my Lancia 037 than try to touch it again

[@adrianbratescu7015]

@@0zone247 :))) I totaled the lancia in Finland:)) having so much fun going fast until copilot said slow over jump...went fast:))and terminal damage at 160km:))gl

[@forests.9597]

F*cking Lancia 037 😂😂😂

[@XenonG]

The default for these are so aggressive is because people complained about too much understeer in the default tunes in DiRT 4's sim handling mode.

[@Pupixario]

Pro tip: If you are on a controller - put stability control to 1-2 and forget about it. RWD cars are way too tail happy in this game considering you have no physical means to "feel" this slip until too late. Just use the assist and save yourself some salt. You will be slightly slower than with no assist but faaar more consistent. If you are pushing for Leaderboards go without stability and do 50 attempts or whatever. I personally play championships and can't afford the risk to spin out randomly just to get 1-2 seconds faster per stage. With a wheel it's better because you have more precise control of your angles, and you can avoid snap oversteer more reliably. Edit: Why is it so difficult to control -> Because oversteer is controlled by throttle and throttle control in Dirt 2.0 is terrible. You apply 25% throttle on your pedal set but RPM keeps climbing and reaches the rev limiter. It's basically impossible to have proper throttle control because you just can't reliably modulate the throttle. To stay 500 rpm below red line you need to be applying around 40% throttle which is nowhere near realistic. Why would a car have a throttle that can go 100% if you reach maximum RPM at less than half the distance. It makes no sense. Below 40% you can't even reach 2k RPM but magically at 41% climbs to red line. Try it and you will understand why RWD sucks.

[@sablack1947]

I think I'm average with FWD and AWD, but bloody hell I've never been able to do more than 3 turns without crashing when driving a RWD, let alone complete a race. I always avoided RWD like the plague. Now thanks to your hints I was finally able to correctly drive a RWD. THANKS

[@eyefeelpineal2617]

Was barely scraping wins before, and sometimes getting thrashed. Just changed the settings to what you said, beat my old time by nearly 40 seconds. Thanks a lot!

[@ondraspendlik9759]

The Escort is one of my favorite rally cars, so I wanted to make it my permanent main car in the H2 RWD class, but the handling was just killing me. I hope setting up the car will help. The problem is, I often even have problems in a straight line, the car just suddenly veering to the side. I hope with the right setup, I can manage the car better. If not, I'm better of switching to the Fiat.

[@gufo_tave]

The Escort is a bitch... literally. Fiat and Opel, on the same class, are MUCH easier to drive

[@nicovinocumine]

I applied the same modifications to the BMW e30 and the difference is huge! Much more drivable now ! Thank you !

[@nigeljones1969]

Been having nightmares with the Mll Escort..going to try this and restart my career... many thanks

[@justgrayyy105]

I amazed myself when I completed a rally stage with the Lancia Stratos with hardly and damage to the car and only spun out three times and recovered nicely each time. It felt so rewarding when the podium said First place!

[@jhh631]

Here is other tips. If the rear of the car is stable but keeps over steering through bumps, make the rear suspension softer. Same can be applied to the front suspension if the car understeers through bumps while the front is stable. One other trick is set balanced gear ratios as if the gear is too long, the car won’t turn fast enough to stabilise, if the gears are too low, the car will become unstable and you would spin. making the differential softer is the easiest way to solve this issue as in this video

[@ronaldmockus2542]

Honestly man all I can say is thank you I recently switched to a steering wheel setup with clutch and pedals and I had somewhat mastered the oversteer on controller but felt at a loss with the recent switch and this is made the cars feel so much better

[@slamonfpv]

The escort is such a fun car to drive thanks for making it better

[@SRheayns]

Thank you so much for this video... I was on the verge of embedding my controller into my TV trying to tame the Escort MkII

[@TheSchnitzelable]

Well with this mindset you can turn on driving assisst and use a controller or play nfs. The only thing I would change is the steering degree I know these cars were built with road car steering ratio in the 70's-80's I went from 1080/900 to modern 540 but it was too easy so I'm about to try a bit more maybe little less than 720. I have 3 pedals ebrake and a shifter it's harder but doesn't feel boring and I personally don't care about times I just want to have fun and sideways fun mainly

[@devious_diego978]

locked keeps the wheels from spinning at different speeds, and open lets the speeds differ on each side no? ive found that when i had the diff open and i would go into corners where one side had more grip than the other, the wheel that had less grip would spin way faster and cause the tail to go out. i.m.o. i dont like that since to me it felt unpredictable. so i keep it locked so its more consistent and do my best to modulate the throttle and braking as best as i can. I also set the front Anti roll bars to be firm and the rear ones soft, to me it helps alot

[@sandermoks179]

Thanks man. Before i hate RWD cars, but now... Its fun to drive👍😉

[@MrGuigto]

Thanks a lot! I do still have huge difficulties to feel when i loose traction, especially on asphalt, no matter my ffb settings..:(

[@tradesman1000]

Cheers mate 👍🏻 I have an understanding of differential lock but didn’t realise that the game was that far out in regards to the ratio. I had been tweaking the diff to try and get more stability under acceleration but didn’t realise I could take the lock down that far. It’s made a huge difference.

[@Cafferssss]

I use standard diff settings as I like to steer the car with the throttle quite a lot. Under braking I also use this to rotate the car to carry speed over slower turns. It can be tricky but I'm currently #9 global on tolt Valley sprint in rwd2

[@patrickkalmakoff6314]

Rwd is all in how and where you throw the weight,if you are on a XB1 controller you can feel a lot of the slip in the triggers

[@catnipherb]

I move the rear negative camber closer to zero. It helps. And stiffer front anti roll bar. Rear anti roll bar close to zero. Edit: Seven months since I made this post, I figured some new things to deal with oversteer in rwd: -Move rear ride height to near minimum. Raise it up by one or two increments if you keep running out of suspension travel. -Set rear spring to low. Like 25%. -Set rear damper extension and compression down to soft. Note: I only done it with rear engine mounted cars, I haven't done it enough with front engine layout cars, sorry! My thinking is have minimal damping on the rear since the engine is at the back of the car which is obviously heavy. It is unhelpful with both the engine weight and stiff dampers making the squashed spring to take even longer to return back to its normal length or neutral position. Try this with all RWD cars in Dirt Rally 2!

[@sc18594]

Theres so much more to be said about RWD tuning, thats like 1% of what can be done. EVERY rally you do play with the settings find what works in what conditions, while settings are not all obvious a tuned car is the difference between a 1st plane and ending up last and in a ditch. RWD cars are amazing.

[@justinayers3589]

Also dont discount the controller settings. For some reason, my G920 had a 20% throttle deadzone as default. I would nudge the pedal, nothing. Nudge, nudge, nudge....boom, 0 to 20% throttle, would instantly spin the tires and I would lose traction straight or turning. Once I set it back to 0 the Escort mk II became way easier to control. Check your settings!

[@rune.theocracy]

And I thought I just sucked at RWD, thank you for this video lol.

[@themetabaron8722]

coming from the opposite perspective, RWD of any class has been by far my fastest "easiest" class. I'm easily in T1 in every daily with RWD despite using the stock setups. That said will opening up the diffs reduce the amount of power I can effectively put down assuming I can otherwise normally modulate the power just fine with them locked up? Sure I can get "on the power" harder and faster, but is this more about making them easier to control or actually faster? Just found your channel and appreciate your videos!

[@themetabaron8722]

@@ScaffsSimRacing I appreciate it! Its funny I seem to have it opposite everyone else, AWD has been the last car class for me to figure out (which I just about have).

[@sionjames8809]

i understand that the escort is a very hard car to get used to it took me a few months but i actually prefer it to be fully locked on wheel and controller now that i’m used to it but u have to play with the throttle all the time when cornering or else you’ll go ar$e first into a tree haha 😂

[@kilroy987]

I will give this a try, thanks. I was really happy with how the Alpine performed in Dirt Rally 1.0, but I spun out ALL the time in Dirt Rally 2.0, and it wrecked my Clubman standing. Update: So, um, H2 RWD Alpine doesn't have a Differential tuning option. So that doesn't work.

[@IK47-d2l]

The Renault Alpine A110 is a black nightmare, very, very hard to handle and extremely unstable under braking

[@trevorbronkema7332]

So the best setting for rear muscle cars is this:Diffs open , Medium brake Force ,front medium brakes, stock height , and all the way soft on everything that has to do with dampening .

[@scotwilson4169]

Completely transformed my H3 Lancia. I can actually put the power down coming out of corners and it changes direction through corners without wanting to spin out. I got most of the setup done really well with someone else's video but I needed this for the final touch👌

[@AlanAttack]

Thank you, before I watched this video it felt like i was in the car with my Dementia riddled Grandmother, riding on a fat persons thighs whilst juggling lava lamps.

[@unholyloaf]

Jesus, this is a night and day difference. It doesn't feel like I'm trying to drive a fucking Beyblade anymore.

[@dantonporto]

Thanks, man. You helped me a lot!

[@megawave79]

I just learned to take corners at a constant speed and brake lightly then heavily to start the turn in the corner and use the oversteer as an advantage. im still not that good though since I've only played for a day or 2

[@kudosbudo]

I wish somebody wouldpouyt together a proper tutorial for takign corner sin each car with exact timings of when to do stuff on some example runs. The problem with Dirt 2.0 is there are NO tutorials to help new players> its a massive fuck you to learnign how to drive.

[@djisch]

Im having a snap when i get to about 150-180° steering angle its just no feeling after 180° and the car is gone have to try this

[@AlanFeekery]

Thanks so much, can actually control the cars now!

[@GTGreeney]

Will certainly give this a try, having a rough time in the Escort at the moment.

[@liamslaney4921]

Dude I've drove little bit n already better but got re learn handle old escort but when are goes I can get it back round thank you , what pad setting do u use

[@LiveseyMD]

I still don't like RWD, but this made my life better.

[@jonathancleaves5714]

Thank you 🙏

[@ondraspendlik9759]

Here I come with the Alpine, which doesn't have an option to setup the differential.

[@gabrielromano1014]

very helpful ty

[@mustaproductionsperez6726]

Hey this is Fernandito from the forum. Please check the topic in the forum again : )

[@blackmesa3777]

set Angle Toe in (positiv) on the rear. Braking Lock is on locked better. And Anti-Roll Bar (rear) to soft. Thats all. I Play this game with Standard Controller on PS4.

[@RellizDope]

Just got to the RWD part of my career and I'm bombing hard now 😔

[@temp-5492]

RellizDope damn

[@t3knyn]

So Wat about the damping settings?

[@rallyburnzsimracing8571]

Thanks for video I tried this setting in dirt rally Ford escourt is less tail happy

[@thesentinel5832]

This fault can be a great advantage.

[@Sweatedsiren895]

Can this applied to DiRT Rally 1?

[@ScaffsSimRacing]

I've not tried in all honesty

[@jackthompson8795]

This helped a little but I still can’t drive rwd 😂

[@ryit.1885]

And don't forget the soft stabis

[@MrNod85]

This setup only for RWD cars?

[@Luki-xr2ih]

Yes

[@liamslaney4921]

Thumbs up and I sub

[@davidgetsbuck]

Or learn proper throttle control.

[@turismo-lookey6619]

This CAR IS NOT F****** fun to drive on gravel and sand I’m pissed that the car handles worse than when it did on dirt rally so disappointed

[@ancientapparition1638]

yeah its just all over the place rwd cars irl are no where near that amount of oversteer even solid rear axles have less than ingame rwds