Bark Buster's were the original hand protectors from back in the day circa 1984.
@123dicko5 ай бұрын
Yep, the original and the best.. and from Australia ! My first set was purchased in the 80's.
@OtisFlint5 ай бұрын
I ride thick woods on the east coast, full wraps all day. Cycra Pro Bend FTW, i feel naked without them!
@aaronphillips27285 ай бұрын
Same brother...same
@engleracing84275 ай бұрын
cant blame you just broke a finger to a bush cause i had flags on switching back to full wrap now.
@riders.oregon44744 ай бұрын
Out east I rode in smaller trees and loved the way a sapling would bend out of the way with full wraps . Living out west riding in large trees farther apart and riding high desert I use enduro engineering flags . Flags let handle bars flex and you don’t bounce off the trail as bad if you clip a large tree.
@MuddyTubMedia5 ай бұрын
I always ran bark busters. They’ve saved my hands many times and I’ve never broken a single lever when I had bark busters installed.
@Ozfreerider_adventures4 ай бұрын
One day they’ll snap your wrists when yo go over the bars….
@MuddyTubMedia4 ай бұрын
@@Ozfreerider_adventures possible but unlikely. I haven’t ridden a dirt bike in 5 years, so I’m not too worried about it haha
@Ozfreerider_adventures4 ай бұрын
If your levers are positions in towards carer of the bar as far as you can they shouldn’t break anyway . If you hit something on a trail or have a big G out that blows your hand off bars your are will go down through it and it can end up a BAD scenario . And the filled wrap ones mean you get shit all in your throttle tube ever the grip is cut off . With firm flag guards you can hit a tree pretty hard and not even touch your fingers .
@leviwaschek66675 ай бұрын
Something to think about too is flag style hand guards will give a little, so if you graze the side of a tree your bars won’t get thrown out of your hands or a wonky way.
@rehepeks4 ай бұрын
Got my pinky pinched between the flag guard and handlebars once like that. Only a small cut and bruising, didn't break any bones. Been using full wrap since then.
@RacerRed4 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I run flags. They also disperse hard impact well
@frasermacmannis6145 ай бұрын
Love videos like this. I know you have older videos on certain topics, but I love when people do multiple videos on a subject because their views can always change with experience.
@Danielson40005 ай бұрын
I love how this guy just tells everything how it is 😂
@curtiswilkinson93795 ай бұрын
You don’t have to have your hand come off the bar to break your wrist. I got ejected to the right and bike went left. My body turned 180 degrees but fingers hooked under the bar and wrist folded over the handguard. Luckily did not break my wrist but that was the last time I rode with them. There are some amazing options for flags. Like u mentioned sxs and also beduro are unreal. We have 6 sets in our crew. And not one broken lever or flag or anything yet.
@SJulianYZ1255 ай бұрын
East WA, North Idaho - I’d have broken my fingers/hands multiple times over the the years without full wrap hand guards
@MuhName5 ай бұрын
Central Idaho to Southern Idaho - not one injury to my hand with flag style handguards. Why? Because I look in front of me not down...😅
@zpbeats39385 ай бұрын
@@MuhNameHey Mr perfect. It's an accident. It called an accident because it's an ACCIDENT.
@thunderbox915 ай бұрын
Barkbusters Aussie made and by far the best wrap around guards
@H3avyHaul3r5 ай бұрын
yep 🦘they changed the enduro game…plastic hand guards never lasted more thn one off and usually you’d break a lever or damage your throttle…let alone wack your hand against a rock or tree…
@thunderbox915 ай бұрын
@@H3avyHaul3r I have never broken a set, they're also more compact then the acerbis ones too.
@PBmxer5 ай бұрын
Ive had both. Open hand guards are the way to go. much safer and less stiff.
@keithncollins5 ай бұрын
I'm 5'3". I drop my bike multiple times every ride usually if it's technical terrain. Cycra full wrap have held up super good for me.
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
If your run your levers in properly which most don't and have bar end protectors, then full wraps are totally irrelevant when it comes to dropping a bike
@atmrtnez5 ай бұрын
I ran the stock flags on my KTM and switched to full wraps. For the normal enduro riding I do, I don’t mind the rigidity of the full wrap until we do longer days and dual sport rides. The best middle ground I have found is the stock KTM flags with the KTM power parts plastic completer pieces. Same thing that is found on the XCW hard enduro/Erzberg models. Great option for anyone running brembo brakes and clutch. Or braketec/magura guys buy the Husqvarna versions.
@twoblipsendurotrips4 ай бұрын
I put teflon under my full wrap guard clamps and loosen the end and wrap bolts a bit. I started doing this to keep them from bending my bars but after a short time realized this also allowed the guards and levers to slip and rotate out of the way on hard ground impacts. Idk if this will reduce the potential for injury in a majority of the risky situations but I like to believe it would.
@dionhawley36802 ай бұрын
Thanks Kyle, I have been riding with a brake lever that is shaped like a U from dropping it. I think I am going to go with the Flags and do the teflon tape trick on the levers.
@rezkidgamingyt47255 ай бұрын
I’ve had both I prefer the full wrap though I ride bush 90% of the time I know it’s got its risks but I’m good with it I’ve gotten my fingers pinched and that hurts . I’ve never knock on wood even come close to my hands going in the holes when I fall or crash yet anyways . Lol
@backlash22325 ай бұрын
watching your videos has all but sold me on ktm 300 xcw!! keep making videos!!
@sergiomonohoma.5 ай бұрын
Flag style or wrap around is equivalent to 2t VS 4t subject! The answer is "molecule flag style hand guards"! Best of both worlds!
@taylormccallum5 ай бұрын
Good video. Ive always had bark busters on every bike. I ride mostly in CA.
@__kvik5 ай бұрын
I ran both full wrap and flag style but I much prefer the flag style (perch mounted). I simply feel better with them on, have more room (maybe imaginary) to handle the bike, it's easier to work on the controls, I can grip the bar in a sorta sideways way when I need to, it's way easier to manouver the bike in very tight spaces with them on, I think it's way harder to bend the bar with them, etc. It's been two years since I switched and have, despite everyone telling me so, never broke a lever or hurt my hands, while somehow friends who run FW have done both, go figure... I have the controls tightened quite loosely where I can turn them with moderate force by hand, I run good bar ends, and I learned to drop the bike in a more controlled fashion, and I have zero issues riding in tight and very wooded areas. One thing where full wrap wins is when you drop the bike into soft ground it doesn't get stuck as deeply and it can sometimes be easier to pull the bike up with full wraps just because there's more places where you can grab it. Anyway, try both versions yourselves and see what fits for you rather than getting blindly convinced by dirtbike dogmas.
@johnmorrison83515 ай бұрын
I like Enduro Engineering full wrap guards. They must do a good job because the logos are almost completely worn away 😅
@dmase90575 ай бұрын
Love the cycra crm probends... have to buy the cycra bar pad to fit over the bars...
@greghayes27875 ай бұрын
I was riding some tight single track a couple of weeks ago and had blood spurting out of fingers nails on both hands. Ordered some bark busters same day.
@chrisbracken78895 ай бұрын
I like flags for the flexibility on trees. In saying that I'm running full wrap at the moment...haha
@Fatboybart5 ай бұрын
Agreed. You don’t realize how much they bounce you off tree’s till you go back to flags.
@sampon93285 ай бұрын
SXS flags and their billet mount gives you the best of both
@Spartan375X5 ай бұрын
I had wrap around on my motard, daily commuter basically, never actually had use for them. I might do flag style just to stop bugs, debris and block some wind for colder rides. My XR will probably get use out of the wrap around type.
@Branhamjeffd4 ай бұрын
We all run full wraps in my group. Those of us that didn’t at first learned to very quickly.
@DougTunnler5 ай бұрын
i rarely ride through trees, but i still prefer pro bend full wraps. Most of my falls happen at slow speeds and I often use the guard as a handle to lift and/or drag my bike down to where I can remount to repeat the process of failure.
@BSm29195 ай бұрын
I ride full wraps, but do mostly Enduro. I'd like to try flags sometime
@MrJasonfromcanada4 ай бұрын
Full wraps - possible broken wrist Flags - possible finger amputation
@andrecontois85105 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't like the cycra crm. I think the hcm is a better shape. The hump in the crm is supposed to help clear brake and clutch lines. I don't want the extra clamp, either.
@quentinruggles54945 ай бұрын
For us supermoto guys i use full wrap acerbis rally pro. Tough as shit. They aren't the best looking but i crash hard a lot. Knock on wood never broken a lever, bent a bar, the guards bend. But you bend them back. I do single track and trail riding too. I've had other full wrap handguards that look great, ended up being expensive junk.
@TerrenceLPАй бұрын
The Acerbis X-Ultimate Handguards are really durable and are great at deflecting. Seems like two types of riders, those that try avoiding (flags) trees and those who plan on full on punching trees (full wrap). Change your style and use flags ❤
@flashpointbravo5 ай бұрын
Have you ever tried the fastway handguards from pro moto billet? They’re my favorite because they attach to the handlebar clamp. They leave a lot of bar space available for mirrors, GPS, phone or whatever. I am currently running some made by Zeta that attach the same way because my bike came with them, but I prefer the fastway. I’d be interested in hearing your thought on the ones that attach to the handlebar clamp, not just the bar itself.
@awatts2225 ай бұрын
standard full wrap hand guards broke both my wrists over the years. The Cycra pro bend hand guards I've never had an issue. They are great! Always save my bike from damage, never bend or warp, flags always stay on.
@jameshatton42115 ай бұрын
Heard this from a guy at work also.....hmmm 🤔
@DmitriyAdv5 ай бұрын
Two more cons to full wraps - - They like to move/rotate/bend when you hit the ground. I’ve had to get my tools out for various handguards on the trail more than anything else. It’s one of the reasons pros don’t run them, they don’t want to have to be fixing that in a race. - They will deflect HARD if you brush a tree. I’ve gotten shot off the trail or into another tree quite a few times because of this. I’ve ran only full wraps for years, all brands on all sorts of bikes. Made the switch to SXS burly guards last year and am not going back. They are plenty stiff to prevent my hands from getting hit and keep my levers safe. At the same time, they absorb the hits instead of transferring them to the bars and sending me off the trail. Because of this I can run them further out and my fingers (especially the pinky) actually take a lot less abuse when I brush against trees or saplings. I ride/race pretty much exclusively east coast singletrack and hard enduro terrain, plenty of barely bar width trees.
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
SXS are the bomb!
@40rpt5 ай бұрын
Another tip is to replace the stock throttle tube with a Motion Pro nylon tube when running handguards. It's dirt cheap (like $7), indestructible, doesn't attract dirt from a static charge like the stock plastic so it's always smooth and easy, and it has a "pop out" end cap, so no cutting needed to install handguards. As for the handguards themselves, I have found that the basic models from Enduro Engineering and even budget brands like Tusk, seem to outlast the pricey brands like Cycra here in the eastern woods were we really put our handguards to use on every ride!
@ruwhan7 күн бұрын
I’m not using any dirt bike, but I need hand guard to prevent debris from behind the trucks/big vehicles when I’m on a trip…
@notgnar85062 ай бұрын
I prefer to have a lot of protection on my hands and they would get stuck too easy in the BBs so I run the open ones.
@cdnmoto8495 ай бұрын
Sweepstakes? But you said the previous one was the last one. Oh and the one before that too. You will need to make a lot of commission sales from RM to pay for the Varg, good luck!
@Tsxtasy15 ай бұрын
I run oem flags on my 2023 300xc and full wraps on my 2017 fe501 super moto. In my mind I like flags, but once I’m moving I don’t really notice a difference
@CW-up7xv5 ай бұрын
Man its like what if someone made wrap arounds that spun so you wouldnt break your arms. Oh wait, they do. The oem wrap arounds made of plastic that never pop out and you can tighten so that they easily rotate in a crash. It boggles my mind why nobody runs them
@tomu15275 ай бұрын
IMO you missed the biggest benefit of a beefy set of flags - they don’t jar your bars nearly as much when you do smack a tree because they have a built-in amount of flex. Much safer IMO. I’ve had some hard tree hits with my enduro engineering flags and never once did they flex back far enough to touch my hand.
@richardhartley17055 ай бұрын
Flags for me with bar ends 100%👍
@RC.563 ай бұрын
What are you suggest for new riders? Will try to do more open cross country riding, and I assume I’ll be dropping the bike more, and I don’t want to break levers and damage components, but also don’t want to break my wrists.
@NizeDirt5 ай бұрын
I've seen a couple pros run flag style because the wrap around deflect off of trees more than flags do. I still run wrap around tho 😂
@stevedouglas16545 ай бұрын
Is that a 2025 XCW in the shop ? 🤔
@michaelraasch93455 ай бұрын
Orange seat is 2024
@Factoryphoto23 күн бұрын
Can you run the full wrap guards on the varg? Any issues with the throttle side?
@nicholasayers80655 ай бұрын
I'm not billy bolt so I run full wrap guards lol
@MrFPSWisconsin4 ай бұрын
I prefer flags, hands down. But when I was starting off and slower full wraps were better at that point.
@dougmagnuson5 ай бұрын
Are you gonna have any more review videos or anything on the Beta 250rr?
@hesutton5 ай бұрын
Exactly. No content on it so far.
@dopesquatch5 ай бұрын
I only ride in the woods really. I go full bc location
@TheMarshallReed3 ай бұрын
Full wrap guards snapped my wrist completely in half last year, never again.
@johnbarnhart71745 ай бұрын
Full wraps protect your front brake lever from being grabbed by passing brush, etc. and throwing you down. Full wraps also better protect master cylinders and throttle housing (would have prevented Sexton crash).
@MuhName5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 it would have prevented the crash? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
You should be running your levers properly adjusted in where that isn't a problem anyways LOL. And no it wouldn't have prevented Sexton's crash moron!
@johnbarnhart71745 ай бұрын
Crash was caused from stuck throttle caused by rock cracking throttle housing. Full wrap handguards generally protect entire throttle housing from roost.
@dcxplant5 ай бұрын
I had no idea about the injuries on the full wrap. My son is still new and tips over a lot on his KLX140 and I’ve replaced the levers and throttle tubes and figured I’d protect them. I’ll run nothing and happily replace levers and tubes instead of a nasty injury.
@edgerlyb195 ай бұрын
Flags for the win!
@keshmo125 ай бұрын
I found that I hit more trees with full wraps. I cut 1 inch off my handlebars and I hit way less trees. We have some tight trees/doorways in some of the local races. The flag style are great for brush.
@Fatboybart5 ай бұрын
I don’t like wrap arounds anymore. Bent to many bars, broke my bar mounts, and damaged my triple from the added leverage from the wrap arounds. I’ll run flags till I die.
@RacerRed4 ай бұрын
I prefer flags 👍
@dominicgoff36265 ай бұрын
As an east coast guy I hate full wraps because they will snatch the bars out of your hands if you clip a tree, or ping pong you into another tree. Flags let it slip by. Yes every now and then you’ll crush a pinky but it’s really not that bad.
@2uzfe4x435 ай бұрын
Maybe I am doing something wrong, the full wrap around guards always mess with my throttle when I go down. The enduro engineering and sxs seem to be the best non wrap around guard.
@40rpt5 ай бұрын
That should never happen. Try moving the throttle assembly inboard just a tiny bit (like a mm or 2). Also, make sure there is no rubber from the grip hanging over the edge of the throttle tube that might be rubbing on the guard or bar end.
@2uzfe4x435 ай бұрын
@@40rpt When you go down with wrap around guards don't you also get a ton of dirt and sand in the throttle tube? I had mine start sticking after a get off in the sand. I appreciate the advice though, ill have to try it if i decide to do full wraps agin.
@40rpt5 ай бұрын
@@2uzfe4x43 Hmmm, I never have those issues. Maybe the throttle tube I use helps with that. Once of the first things I normally do when I get a bike is replace the stock throttle tube with a nylon motion pro tube (it's like $7). It's indestructible and has an end cap that just pops off for hand guard installation (no cutting). Since it's not plastic, it doesn't develop a static charge that can make dirt stick. It's so cheap it might be worth trying to see if it helps. Good luck!
@poof19075 ай бұрын
didnt think about the injury part. yeah not running full wraps anymore. coming off the bike tomorrow. i like my hands and arms😭😭
@H3avyHaul3r5 ай бұрын
you can effectively break your wrists on the levers…they are only a few degrees below where you’d run “full wrap around” barkbusters
@poof19075 ай бұрын
@@H3avyHaul3r i run asv breakaways so not very likely
@Yamaha38XCRacer5 ай бұрын
You break those levers just as easy..it’s when you go against the break away that breaks them like plastic, easy as a stock lever on a tip over or tree rub..I know, I trashed 5 in one season when I ran xc3 pro 125 gncc..they are nice when they fold away but not when they jam a tree or rock against the break away using anything other than a full wrap bark buster..
@poof19075 ай бұрын
@@Yamaha38XCRacer i dont race xc only motocross and singletrack. i wreck alot not trying to break an arm on full wraps. already took them off
@902_Nick5 ай бұрын
👍👍
@2vford2415 ай бұрын
Full wrap around is nice when the drunk guy in a SxS hits you and sends you off the trail, ask me how I know
@H3avyHaul3r5 ай бұрын
if you aren’t running full barkbuster style handguards you aren’t serious…protects you and your bike…
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
Fake news. Look at Hard Enduro guys or any other pro and see how many riders you see with them.
@H3avyHaul3r5 ай бұрын
@@kurtheidelbach i can’t take hard enduro (trials on a dirtbike) seriously anyway, like i’m going to follow the throw your bike at the terrain crowd for tips…
@Dashriprock45 ай бұрын
The guys in Enduro GP don't run full wrap. It's my understanding that any fim sanctioned Enduro in Europe does not allow full wrap handguards. And I agree with you completely about hard Enduro. 👍👍
@carlatamanczyk38915 ай бұрын
It's never been debatable for me. Full wrap hand guards only.
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
You obviously haven't made good contact with a set of full wrap and good contact with a set of quality flags for comparison or you definitely wouldn't say that.
@leethomas5565 ай бұрын
Yep my best friend clipped a tree and he broke his arm ugly style.
@gpaull25 ай бұрын
If you don’t need wrap arounds you’re riding too slow and/or in too easy terrain. 😂
@joeybuckingham70065 ай бұрын
flag style CON: They mount directly to your clutch or brake assembly on your bars (see :58 sec in on this video) and when/if you drop it or hit something hard enough which riding hard enduro is bound to happen it will shatter the mount that holds your clutch or your front brake to your bars and KTM has a crappy design and you cant just replace the mount its cast into the clutch assembly or brake assembly so your stuck paying $250-$300 for a compete new one just because the mount broke. but a PRO: I know have the Cycra full wraps and i own a Clake and will never own anything else on any of my bikes. One of the best investments made! Team clake!
@MuhName5 ай бұрын
Lol lots of models of flags that have its own perch. He even said it in the video. 😂😂😂
@joeybuckingham70065 ай бұрын
@@MuhName ya agreed, the factory ones suck though their mainly there as brush guards.
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
No, not true at all LOL. All sorts of high-quality flags that don't mount that way.
@michaelglenn28925 ай бұрын
Can confirm, my thumb caught my full wrap handguard last year and violently detached my UCL from my thumb
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
Also, a con of full wraps is it really doesn't support the proper riding position rider triangle. Especially if you are doing GNCC. The SXS hand guards are awesome. Yes, most people have their levers way too far out.
@WildAzzRacing5 ай бұрын
That literally makes no sense. The rider triangle is not affected by nor has anything to do with wraparound hand guards.
@OtisFlint5 ай бұрын
Not sure how that's true, full wraps are adjustable and don't interfere with your hands regardless. Maybe some cheeseball set that interferes with the levers, but a decent set is fully independent of the levers.
@kurtheidelbach5 ай бұрын
@@OtisFlint Has absolutely nothing to do with that. Apparently you don't know what the proper rider triangle is. Your hands actually grip more of the ends of the grips. They 100% interfere with them.
@OtisFlint5 ай бұрын
@@kurtheidelbach Oh right, i forgot all the top pros are flying around with the bar end in their palms...🤡