Why dirt bike engines blow up and how to prevent it!

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Hey guys today we have something special for you guys, we met with very experienced engine builder Brad from @parapros and talked about the main reasons why dirt bike engines blow up and how to prevent it. Check out the video and let me know your thoughts, cheers!
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why dirt bike engine blow up, explodes, seize

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@neilr4867
@neilr4867 Жыл бұрын
Warm them up, use good, fresh fuel, change the oil & oil filter often and keep the air filter clean. Other than that, just follow the manual for valve tolerances and change the piston & rings when you should. Remember, an hour meter is your friend!
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS Жыл бұрын
As a ex shop owner I'll give you my reasons dirt bike engines blow up, it's quite simple. Alot of dirt bikes are owned by scallywags, they are not the sharpest tools in the box and have no idea about maintenance. So basically they smash the bikes head in and do no servicing, eventually the bike blows up, usually because of lack of oil. After you rebuild the motor for them they go and do exactly the same, even though you give them a strict running in instructions. Sometimes you have their bike in your shop for so long you have to sell it to recover your costs. The phone number you were provided with that you call to advise you will sell the bike no longer works because the guy who brought the bike to your shop is in jail. Once out of jail you then receive threats because you sold the bike. This is in the UK.
@odyshopody9387
@odyshopody9387 Жыл бұрын
Fuckin Skallywags!
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS Жыл бұрын
@@odyshopody9387 😂
@limbo5463
@limbo5463 11 ай бұрын
This is very accurate 😂
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS
@PUBLICSECTORJOBSWORTHS 11 ай бұрын
@@limbo5463 🤣😂
@speedyme200
@speedyme200 11 ай бұрын
Don't forget some of these guys like to ride crazy long wheelies starving the engine of oil mostly the four-strokes
@autopdr
@autopdr Жыл бұрын
Just for your information, 87 octane in usa even to 92 octane in Europe. Premium 93 = 98 European Usa just just use different measurement methods
@jannep6772
@jannep6772 Жыл бұрын
Yes, in Europe we use RON (research octane number) and in USA they use MON (motor octane number). I run my bikes with 98E5 ethanol 5% and 98 RON. Good video. I would like to add the eight reason for motor failure. Too hard reving with too cold motor. Piston will seize in the cylinder as it expands too fast and cylinder does not have time to expand so fast so the piston to cylinder clearance gets too tight.
@wernerxldata
@wernerxldata Жыл бұрын
@@jannep6772 In some locations in Europe there's actually better fuel available. Germany has Aral 102 competition (ethanol free), Holland has some locations that sell 100+ (ethanol free) fuel. Ethanol is the octane part in fuel but it tends to make the fuel burn relatively slow. Slow is a longer combustion period and that adds up to the actual heat in the engine. Better quality fuel burns quicker and therefore runs cooler. Better fuel isn't just a higher octane value. Stuff like Sunoco, ELF, VP, Panta are completely different from the stuff you get at the gas station. I think fuel quality, besides bad maintenance and bad habits, is the main reason of engine failure, you can compensate by running engines richer to keep them cool but you really want better fuel to keep the thermal drama down. Engines are running quite high rpm's and compression, there's just a really small amount of time for a combustion to happen, you don't want slow burning fuel, it runs hot. Adding 20% extra will cool it down a little but it's a bandage.
@Hanibul_Lecktor
@Hanibul_Lecktor 28 күн бұрын
Then we've got California, they give them inferior gas on purpose to destroy your engine. Big lawsuits currently underway.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Жыл бұрын
It ends up being the same octane numbers, EU vs USA. It's the method used to measure the octane what differs. Been explained many times before.
@robertdebono2810
@robertdebono2810 Жыл бұрын
Much needed information to prevent the continuation of a common money sink hole in MX engine failure. I wish to add when choosing a hi competition piston it will be from std.range of 13:1 average, becomes 14:1, that must run on its specific fuel. and should stamp a note alert to stay with all the ouners when selling. other remedies can help reduce the heat by larger radiator and pumps, lower thermal fan switch, cooler in heat range spark plug, rich jetting or mapping, oil cooler in some exceptions.
@MADMAXEEMX
@MADMAXEEMX Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips it helps me out a lot!
@walterdemo2895
@walterdemo2895 Жыл бұрын
Best way to warm up a 4T racebike is to hold it wide open bouncing off the rev limiter in neutral to keep the motor running clean
@bustjanzupan1074
@bustjanzupan1074 Жыл бұрын
;-)😅
@twc9000
@twc9000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's best to do it in your driveway early in the morning. The neighbors will love it.
@bustjanzupan1074
@bustjanzupan1074 Жыл бұрын
@@twc9000 😎😎😎
@yslrx
@yslrx Жыл бұрын
@@twc9000 I find it to be more effective during midnight too
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
​@@twc9000 the neighbors wont have to put up with it for very long ...it will make the sound of the first bike in this video and then it will never run again ..
@scotteverett1786
@scotteverett1786 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Good to hear from the expert
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
Sell them before they blow up is the way to go?
@gcostanza2115
@gcostanza2115 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, very informative. You should make Brad a regular!
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
very informative ? lf you didnt know that you should change the oil once in a while and clean the air filter and splash some fresh gas in the tank is all that was said and never did the video answer the main reason 4t dirt bikes blow up ,,so if you own one sooner or later its going to self detonate because you still have not been told the real reason why all 4t dirt bikes will all fail that will never happen to a two stroke simply because they do not have any of the parts all 4t dirt bike engines have that causes to fail in the first place ..since you are a millennial who always rudely interrupt their elders and try to correct as you all believe we are to old to know anything ...so i say i know exactly what will fail in all four strokes that even after the parts are changed out their will come a time where those same parts will have to be changed out again ,,and if you allow them to go on beyond and fail they will cause more damage and destruction than the cost of and complete brand new engine ..and go now and figure it all out by yourselves as i am never going to tell any millennial anything at all about everything that you have been purposely lied to about that will cause you to fu
@spoonsarefun
@spoonsarefun 10 ай бұрын
Lol, seeing the tmr cylinder brings back memories...had a cr250 with tmr cylinder and porting on race bike... good machine 💪
@diyjeff1838
@diyjeff1838 Жыл бұрын
Great advice!!
@TheRealDedi
@TheRealDedi 8 ай бұрын
Just the video I was looking for Thank you
@michaelj.kastner5165
@michaelj.kastner5165 11 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video!!! Loved it
@muriuwangai3617
@muriuwangai3617 Жыл бұрын
Am liking every bit of this content from kenya. My Serow has engine vibration at past mid rpm and am scared. Advice from you?
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
This guy Brad is solid gold! I've also watched his engine rebuilds and wow is he impressive.
@bustjanzupan1074
@bustjanzupan1074 Жыл бұрын
Maybe, except, that he putted the Main Reason on only the 6'th place.
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
@@bustjanzupan1074 he did not tell anyone the main reason 4 stroke dirt bikes fail , simply because he does not know or even have the slightest clue .he did not even mention one reason why of the failures he has seen ! He is only a parts exchanger and not a diagnostic technician
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
@@bustjanzupan1074 he never mentioned the main reason all four stroke dirt bikes fail. That is the valve springs become too weak in a short time to keep the valves from contacting the piston at the extreme rpms they turn ..all so the tiny hardened steel pins that hold the stacked plates together of there hyvo style cam chains that turn extreme rpm causes the hyvo style cam chain plates to wear tiny notches on the hardened steel pins to cause just one pin out of the hundreds of them to snap into sending the cam chain through the bottom of the engine case at which time the camshaft has stopped turning with intake or exhaust lobes still holding valves wide open to come in contact with a piston that is still going up and down striking the valves 233.333~ times per second causing a domeno effect of major parts of the engine to go kafu¢ken Boooom party over time to buy a complete new engine that usually cost half the price of a new bike ...or spend a little bit more and have A.J. Waggner to shoe horn one of his BUILT CR500R or a CR538R insane strokers all billet cnc milled aluminium complete two stroke engines licensed by Honda with A.J.'s adapter kits made for each brand of 450 four stroke frames . What you end up with is a king of hill , track , and drag strip that can not fail from any problems due to all four strokes because the CR500R engine does not have any parts that fail in all the four strokes which makes the two strokes of today 100% more reliable if you know how to service and maintain a two stroke , it will live longer than you. And all the specs this joker in this video tells you about to stroke engine life is all his own made up B.S. as far as my information goes about two strokes come from a time of honda's very first two stroke that was designed by only one man who was the most world famous professional motorcycle engine designer and racing tuner of all times known world wide no other than Pops Yoshimura who designed built and raced the Honda Elsinore to several Japanese Championships and then in 1974 became the instructor at honda's R&D Training Center in Milwaukee where i became one of Yoshimura's students for around five years learning all the mods Yoshimura made to the honda Elsinore as they were developed over the following years giving me hands on knowledge of everything there is to know about all two stroke engines that i was required to know to keep my job while working at a honda franchised dealership that sponsored AMA pro motocross racing... to evolve into the CR500R that A.J. Waggner by licenses through honda for 25 years has been building two stroke engines from forged blocks of military aircraft grades of billet aluminum and using forged aircraft steel dynamically spin balanced and stuffed crankshafts and transmission gears, shifting forks , counter and main shafts, couplers and special oem machined spacers where they apply..modified billet water pumps and at request engine cases special designed to except common easy to get hydraulic clutch cylinders ..wait a second , why take my word for it who knows more than most about all two strokes , here is A.J. and his website with phone number to call and talk to the guru himself...i try to keep my comments as short as possible but as you can see i know too much and so little time ...now you know too much so if you will please show your pals your new information for in the future we can all be on the same page and ready for the next level up in two stroke tuning ..just remember two strokes by design are internally supercharged at causes their power band to make pounds of boost ...four stroke can only suck, bang, and blow (into dozens of pieces parts and parts pieces in one first and last KAFU¢KEN BOOOM) BUILT500.COM if for any reason you dont like to ride red he now builds engines in flavors of blue yellow and green as well
@Davido50
@Davido50 9 ай бұрын
@@donniebaker5984 What are you on?? 😳 -NY
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 9 ай бұрын
@@Davido50 the truth . at age 73 today i was at age 25 an apprentice of "pops" yoshimura the inventor of honda's first two stroke called the "Elsinore" ever heard of one ? i doubt it ! that was the game changer as famous as pops yoshimura rip . buzz off ass hole
@rfiskillingussoftly6568
@rfiskillingussoftly6568 Жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 4 ай бұрын
That was super cool! His experience and knowledge was obvious. Cool guy!
@quickshift_r
@quickshift_r 9 ай бұрын
very interesting video! Thanks!
@zardportugal
@zardportugal Жыл бұрын
Great tips. Get your arm good quick. Cheers
@morganeast3403
@morganeast3403 8 ай бұрын
Great content love it .
@erikharstad6967
@erikharstad6967 10 ай бұрын
I have a 86 kx250. It ran with a cracked piston(not the best but pretty dang good) I have only put a new piston in it. The crank is original, I run pump gas (85 to 87, cause I’m broke) I now probably have at least 50 hours on it and it is still running perfectly fine.
@charleswinters7129
@charleswinters7129 Жыл бұрын
Change the filter every moto. Change the oil every race. Never had an engine blow. Raced from 79-2001.
@WvMnts
@WvMnts 11 ай бұрын
Great content
@xorrupt_3802
@xorrupt_3802 Жыл бұрын
in the uk the fuel is pretty good, we have e10 (95 oct) that we wont even touch and e5(99 oct) that runs well
@krampus174
@krampus174 Жыл бұрын
pekno video aj som sa dozvedel viacej informácií 😇
@3BrothersExtreme
@3BrothersExtreme Жыл бұрын
Brad is the best in the business! Awesome video! Great info!
@tujungite4914
@tujungite4914 8 ай бұрын
VP Racce gas plus additive. Also don't forget Startron. It Mets out the varnish through entire system as it's an additive. It doesn't take much but you'll notice the bike starts right up and knowing you're not gumming up the jets and cylinder with horsepower sucking varnish! 2 and 4 stroke as well!
@chriscardoza9785
@chriscardoza9785 11 ай бұрын
Just wondering what kind of parts you use in all your motorcycles are they stock parts or different parts for your builds....
@jamieargent7139
@jamieargent7139 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys a lot of racecars also run av gas have been imtrested in better fuel for my rmz 450 in Ca and the pump gas is trash
@bobbybishop5662
@bobbybishop5662 Жыл бұрын
Av gas isn't that good a choice , Av gas has all kinds of additives needed for aviation use that are not good for getting maximum performance. A 50/50 mix of race gas and pump fuel is much better choice.
@johancarlbark
@johancarlbark Жыл бұрын
I always have 1% 2 stroke full synthetic oil in the gas on my 4 stroke engine, newer had problems on my Husaberg 650Fe and Honda XR 600 🇸🇪💪
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
Replace the valve springs and cam chain with stock OEM . No aftermarket stuff...put a small piece rope in the spark plug hole with the piston up against it When intakes and exhausts are closed .this will allow you the change springs without removing the head..you can change the cam chain on the XR without removing the head or splitting the engine cases... The husaberg i know nothing about . It may have bee hive titanium valve springs that dont wear out
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
man, look at the destroyed engine parts falling to the ground from that bike at the start!
@MikeSowsun
@MikeSowsun 11 ай бұрын
My 2007 Yamaha WR250F seized at about 10,000km when a tooth broke off 4th gear and got caught somewhere in the bottom end. It made a real mess. I needed a complete bottom end. (new case, cylinder, crank, rod, piston, etc.)
@jacquescoetzee8904
@jacquescoetzee8904 4 ай бұрын
Thank you dude realy great advice
@dirtniron
@dirtniron 4 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@Flatlower
@Flatlower Жыл бұрын
fuel transports in your area pull out of the same area in the region..plus or minus some injected additives
@Pmz604
@Pmz604 4 ай бұрын
Great Q&A session
@texas2strokes727
@texas2strokes727 Жыл бұрын
The vp additive is called vp madditive it works great. I run it with 91 non ethonal. Cleared the detonation up in my 300 tpi. It's my fav right now.
@OtisFlint
@OtisFlint Жыл бұрын
Non-ethanol kills detonation resistance. I tune big turbo cars for a living, 91 non ethanol is a lot more prone to knock than 91 E10, despite the same rating. 91 E free is like 88-89 with E10.
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 Жыл бұрын
@@OtisFlint Or the 91 e10 is 91 octane gasoline with 10% ethanol added so it actually totals 92-94octane :)
@HI-mk7gw
@HI-mk7gw Жыл бұрын
what about microcracks developing over time more in cranks when engine is loaded too hard when cold?
@db1988
@db1988 Жыл бұрын
I see so many guys start their bike cold and hold it to rev limiter
@Eddiep80
@Eddiep80 Жыл бұрын
Dude my roommate has an older like 02 Klx 300. He fires that thing up and jams out giving it zero time to warm up hahah been doing it for a year or two. I told him you’re going to seize that bitch up doing that. But it hasn’t yet it’s actually quite impressive hahaha.
@crispincurtis8585
@crispincurtis8585 Жыл бұрын
Really bad thing to do🤓🤙
@daveyboy7305
@daveyboy7305 Жыл бұрын
​@@Eddiep80he's lucky
@craigmorgan4676
@craigmorgan4676 Жыл бұрын
Worst thing to do ever,man,y?😫😫😫🤯👁🙈🙈😱😮🤔😡💀💀
@krispewkrem3
@krispewkrem3 Жыл бұрын
You guys have rev limiters?!? *sad 2 stroke noises*
@BanksRacing11
@BanksRacing11 11 ай бұрын
I need to chime in here.. I have a different opinion when it comes to four stroke valves.. I suggest not adjusting the valves at all on bikes with titanium valves.. When the valves tighten up and the bike becomes hard to start imo tear it down and replace them because the titanium coating on the valve seats are only microns in thickness so if your valve has moved 3-10mm it's already though the coating and they need to be replaced.. I've seen this time and time again where people keep adjusting the valves and don't replace them and eventually they drop one due the shim thickness being too thin and not enough spring pressure.. The head of the valve sinks further and further into the head loosening the spring.. At high rpm valves float keepers fly off then its game over lol.. Also seen them pull the head of the valve completely off which doesn't end well either..
@Gofex786
@Gofex786 7 ай бұрын
Every motor I have done with titanium valves I have had to send the head out with the new valves to have the valve seats recut, from my understanding the titanium coating is on the valves. Not the seats
@SpeedDemonExpress
@SpeedDemonExpress 11 ай бұрын
You can get a mechanical cam chain tensioner to replace ktm's stock oil adjusted cam chain tensioner. You'll never skip a tooth again.
@drewcecato221
@drewcecato221 Жыл бұрын
You had 98 RON in Slovakia which is equivalent to 93 octane gas in North America. 2 Strokes do love high octane fuel but any 93 pump gas at least here in Canada is not going to damage your engine.
@user-ty6kd8fe9h
@user-ty6kd8fe9h Жыл бұрын
Only two strokes 💪😜
@pascalhumphrey
@pascalhumphrey Жыл бұрын
how much should a rebuild cost. i know it changes with location.
@FonicsSuck
@FonicsSuck Жыл бұрын
North America and Europe use different octane ratings, calculated differently. Europe uses the "RON" rating and North America used the "AKI" rating. RON is a higher number to it's equivalent AKI, but share octane qualities.
@jeremysalle5005
@jeremysalle5005 Жыл бұрын
On my 2010 gas gas 200 I change the oil every 40 hours and clean the filter when it’s completely coated in dirt. 200 hours so far. runs mint
@1991enduro
@1991enduro Жыл бұрын
40😂😂
@jeremysalle5005
@jeremysalle5005 Жыл бұрын
@@1991enduro hell yea
@markalan4026
@markalan4026 Жыл бұрын
Why even run an airfilter, total waste! Just spray a shot of oil in the carb every now and again to collect the dirt.
@jeremysalle5005
@jeremysalle5005 Жыл бұрын
@@markalan4026 more air flow! Might have to try that
@motozz8258
@motozz8258 Жыл бұрын
Yep the quality builds , no need for cotton wool treatment .
@davidkumeroa2997
@davidkumeroa2997 2 ай бұрын
Dudes! Good info Bro. Kiaora. Stay upright.
@dirtniron
@dirtniron 2 ай бұрын
thanks dude!
@604_steezus
@604_steezus 11 ай бұрын
I always ran ethanol pump gas in my 2022 gasgas 125 and it has 89hours no top end and still crisp
@eliasazar7005
@eliasazar7005 Жыл бұрын
Good man!😎🤙
@markilleen4027
@markilleen4027 10 ай бұрын
every 5 hours, i couldn't be on a 4T, i spend the whole day on my bike from 7 in the morning to 12 at night
@c4r5on88
@c4r5on88 Жыл бұрын
If i look at my valves 3 are slightly proud when closed like they are supposed to be but one intake is sat flush. Do you think ill get another race out of it ?
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
You are not giving up enough information to make any kind of a judgement call on engine life ..how wide are the contact of the valve face to valve seats ? How weak have the valve springs became ? How much slop is there in the cam chain links all pushed together and them pulled apart to see the slop in distance ? Is the valve that is deeper in the head than the other 3 needing the clearance adjusted more offen losing clearance
@christopherevans4978
@christopherevans4978 11 ай бұрын
10 hours for oil seems a little extreme to me also for 2 strokes with transmission oil or 4 strokes with 2 oil compartment when should I change transmission oil? Ktm Manuel says 40 hours
@kingslymopeli1991
@kingslymopeli1991 Жыл бұрын
The only reason my 4 stroke knocked was because of a factory fault with the connecting rod. I checked the forums and all over, even yamaha said it
@za5teeshftw709
@za5teeshftw709 Жыл бұрын
Yeah mine has a knock from the play in the clutch basket bearing
@stemartin6671
@stemartin6671 Жыл бұрын
​@@za5teeshftw709my 4t road bike yamaha has a clutch basket knock
@justmarcos7969
@justmarcos7969 Ай бұрын
I bought a engine top end cylinder head on eBay and it didn’t come with the shims, how can I now which ones are the correct ones?
@dominykas3341
@dominykas3341 Жыл бұрын
hey, I have 2001 ktm exc 400, i changed oil and im running it for about 30h, i dont ride hard at all just cruising down the forest, couple hours ago the oil was clean, now it got black, should i change it still that often, because if the oil is black is not bad but it has gas in it thats burnt
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
low RPM trail riding makes it all less critical, but yeah... 30 hrs is a bit too long. just think about clutch plate and gear wear particles running through your cam bearings piston skirt... you get the picture
@stephenmiller5023
@stephenmiller5023 Жыл бұрын
I own a ‘99 WR-400 F Yamaha . I’ve had it now for almost 22 years ( after buying it used ) and have beaten on it numerous times in all kinds of weather & terrain. I use quality oil, clean my air filter , and go over the bike usually before every ride , checking the usual stuff, coolant & oil level , chain , nuts / bolts , the spokes, tire pressures etc , and it has only had ONE valve adjustment, and since my ownership NEVER Had the top end apart for a new piston , rings , bore job , NOTHING. I swear this this is like a cockroach, I haven’t been able to kill it yet . Did I also mention it is street legal & gets ridden at freeway speeds to & from trail rides ?? That old 5 valve thumper has been the most reliable bike I have EVER OWNED , hands down. It’s jetted properly, starts cold usually within one or two good kicks ( ever since I learned it’s ways) and hot usually within a couple more or less using hot start lever on carb. It has a 3-1/2 gallon I.M.S. Tank and it still gets around 30-35 mpg when ridden hard , and around 40 mpg or more , at lighter throttle . I’ll probably never be able to afford a new $10, 000 plus anything dirt bike these days, so I try to take care of what I can currently on my own as much as possible. Oh , I also run a Scott’s brand stainless steel cleanable oil filter & have a spare one as well and a spare Twin-air brand air filter cleaned & oiled & ready for service times . Once swapped in the bike I then clean the ones that just came out & bag them in zip lock baggies for next go -round, usually in 500 miles or so . Take care of your machine & it will provide you with years ( decades ) of service . One more thing , DON’T pressure wash the crap outta your bike after each ride !!! This causes more damage than most people think due to water getting into places it shouldn’t. A little dust on things doesn’t do near the damage as a little water & eventually rust will . C-ya 😎👍
@PA-Tammy
@PA-Tammy 11 ай бұрын
I have 900 hrs on my WR250f and it too is 100% stock and I raced it and ride in the rocky woods on PA. Valve adjustment is key if you run them at high rpms but if you run them in the woods they just keep going...
@kmx509
@kmx509 11 ай бұрын
We have your exact bike. 99 WR400F and we bought it about a year and a half ago and we bought it supposedly "perfectly fine" but after we couldn't start it we took it to a dealer and discovered the head was over-torqued. Squished the aluminum head and the owner was able to revive the head and it has been perfectly fine since. We have done the HotCams auto-decompression cam to remove the fussy decompression lever and the bike is absolutely bulletproof. I agree with you. these early 5-valve Yamaha's are indestructible. I don't even know how many hours our motor has as for it never had a rebuild (on the previous owner and us). All that was done was oil changes and an air filter. We also took off the airbox snorkel to give it extra power. It also has a cheap Chinese carb on it since the OEM carbs are really expensive but after all of that it is a tough tough TOUGH bike.
@stephenmiller5023
@stephenmiller5023 11 ай бұрын
@@kmx509 Just now saw your reply to my post about my ‘99. I don’t know HOW mine has survived my abuse all these years , but it has !! All you gotta do is give ‘em a little love & attention every now & then it seems. Enjoy your bike man😎👍
@kmx509
@kmx509 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenmiller5023 For sure!
@Vazerin
@Vazerin 11 ай бұрын
Got a 1987 TRX250X, pretty sure it was never torn apart, even the tires and rims were original when I bought it off the original owner, rear end definitely got damaged cause all the missing stuff but still ran til recently
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf
@jjjjjjjjrifufjssjosskenf Жыл бұрын
For a 300 2 stroke trail bike, what are the advantages to running avgas or race gas if the engine isn’t detonating?
@OtisFlint
@OtisFlint Жыл бұрын
Zero.
@keithschneider6348
@keithschneider6348 Жыл бұрын
Compression ratio
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
Carbon deposits shorten engine life. Low octane in a 2t will cause more carbon deposit..when you hear an engine pinging that is spark knock ...when detonation happens you can not hear it as its canceled out by the sound of combustion.. and 2 strokes are internally super charged when they begin running in their power band ..so 93 octane gas and a shot of 106 octane booster from autozone works ...but dont spare on your two stroke oil ..mix yamalube R 100% synthetic one pint bottle to five gallons of gas
@donniebaker5984
@donniebaker5984 Жыл бұрын
​@@OtisFlintfor you that goes for all engines just feed them what ever ..you dont have a clue
@stemartin6671
@stemartin6671 Жыл бұрын
Avgas has anti freeze additives
@SpeedDemonExpress
@SpeedDemonExpress 11 ай бұрын
KTM bottom ends that use a plain bearing last pretty much the life of the bike, or four times longer than needle bearing bottom ends. I had a 2013 250sxf for 9 years, track bike and never needed to change it. Only top ends at 80 hours. Never a failure or any problems. I change oil when it starts getting darker usually 6 hours or more. Use a nice air filter that is dense inside, even if it gets dirty outside no dirt will ever get in. Still have to clean it though, use dawn or filter safe cleaner. Never ever use gasoline to clean a filter.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
does the gas degrade the foam? i know they feel weird after being in gas, but to me they always recover just fine when dry. i use gas first, fully dry them, then use the soapy water last. then fully dry. i've also always used grease at the seal. most guys don't but i cant bring myself to trust no grease.
@colinneill7483
@colinneill7483 Жыл бұрын
We have 99octane over here at the pumps 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@theovancappellen7618
@theovancappellen7618 Жыл бұрын
I always change my piston every 10 to 12 hours on a YZ125. After 10 hours you can really notice the sound and performance are getting slowly worse, that's when its time to change it. Easy job, and you keep your engine fresh. Oil I'll do every 4 - 5 hours. Also clean your airfilter after every track day, that's saves so much trouble down the road. Also a good thing to do, is to completely disassemble your bike once every year, clean and grease the parts, this way your bike stays just like new. Also it is a pretty fun winter or summer project 😉 Another tip for our two stroke lovers, dont mix your gas to lean. 1 liter to 40 liters of gas is a nice mixture. The more oil, the more power you get, piston rings will seal better creating a much better "bang" 😉
@gal184
@gal184 11 ай бұрын
In my opinion,it's my opinion that's way to fast my friend believe it or not my friend had 340 hours on ktm sx85 before it blow up and my Kawasaki kx85 has like 160 hours i think and it's running fine yes maybe you don't get the same power out of it but i think 2 stroke if it's build right they can do easily 100-130 hours ,4 strokes i think easily 200 hours my friend has honda crf250 and he has like 170 hours and it still running fine it's my opinion and like honestly even if i want to change the piston every 10 hours i don't have that much money 🤣 like 10 hours thats like a week of riding and piston in my country are like 100 euros and avarge salary here is 1300 euros ,like its to much money for me to spent every week 100 euros that like 400 euros okey if i ride a little less lets say 2 pistons still 200 euros and then comes the gas and the oil and other things that breakes ,and you need to change brake pads🤯🤯,
@HoodScents
@HoodScents 11 ай бұрын
@@gal184 Jesus Christ dude, 160 hours?? It's time for a change brother!
@holymacarenafin2319
@holymacarenafin2319 10 ай бұрын
Well im sunday driver on enduro with 250cr from 97. Went to 40:1 and noticed incredible difference on performance from 32:1. I dont prob have to change piston every 40h🤣
@quintinsmith5400
@quintinsmith5400 9 ай бұрын
Just checked my 2008 Rmz450 crank, had the bike since new. Still half within tolerance. Full synthetic oil almost every ride only done 1 piston and cam chain
@Blocanbentlyyahu
@Blocanbentlyyahu 4 ай бұрын
How many hours on her
@Blocanbentlyyahu
@Blocanbentlyyahu 4 ай бұрын
I got a 2016 kx450f with like almost 200 hours and it runs amazing im thinking about doing the piston but i dont think i have too cuz the compression still feels crazy
@quintinsmith5400
@quintinsmith5400 4 ай бұрын
@@Blocanbentlyyahu dunno lost count around 400hrs. Only other bike I have from new is a 2014 yz250...love it but it cant compete on cost per hour to ride, strange given we all think it should be cheaper. Have a 03 rm250 and a klx250s. KLX just ate a cam,just got it going again ....great for night time slays in the forest with a light bar.
@chrisbailie213
@chrisbailie213 11 ай бұрын
thanks 😊
@christopherevans4978
@christopherevans4978 Жыл бұрын
I’m in ca should I still run race gas if I only go to ocotillo wells?
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
no, just premium.
@Johnny_Hopper
@Johnny_Hopper Жыл бұрын
First clip is Derek Anderson
@nightmareballoontom4224
@nightmareballoontom4224 Жыл бұрын
My trx450er is at 500 hours still on original top end and everything
@shawncordeiro5078
@shawncordeiro5078 Жыл бұрын
can you tell me engine hr life and valve adjustment intervauls trail riding on xr650r ?
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
adjust the valves every 5 years of easy riding. the engine will last forever if you do the oil and filter often and run good gas.
@dirtbiketv1
@dirtbiketv1 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Brad. He has seen it all and of the 4000 motors I would say 100 are mine 😂
@byronromero2344
@byronromero2344 10 ай бұрын
What if i ride 4 strocke on the street ????? To change the piston?
@MrRichieCZ
@MrRichieCZ 9 ай бұрын
Hahaha, when it comes to a part where you mentioned the fuel i was wondering about europe gasoline, where i can take 100oct gas from a pump.... And then host mentioned that he is from slovakia... It all came clear... ;)... Greetings from Czech Rep my mate...
@JanASS1991
@JanASS1991 11 ай бұрын
Really good and informative video. I was quite supirsed by amount of hours you can go on 4 stroke before rebuild - 100 hours on 250. I've heard that only once and most of the people I know says that 60 hours is maximum safe value for 250 used on MX track.
@dirtniron
@dirtniron 11 ай бұрын
It depends how you ride but 100 on 250f sounds ok for weekend warriors
@JanASS1991
@JanASS1991 11 ай бұрын
I'm average weekend warrior riding on passion, not skills and strength. :P Thanks for reply and greetings from Poland close neighbourhood of your origin country- Slovakia. @@dirtniron
@EstebanViquez
@EstebanViquez 9 ай бұрын
What you gotta say about oil quality? I have used Yamalube for years and I was told that Motul 300v Is the best ever oil but my engine blowed off after 60 thousand miles using Yamalube
@andrewzetterman6539
@andrewzetterman6539 10 ай бұрын
Is it the ethanol in fuel that is making it bad? I use ethanol free 90 octane in my 450 and avgas in my 2 strokes. Is ethanol free 90 octane goon enough or should I switch over to avgas in everything?
@dirtniron
@dirtniron 10 ай бұрын
I do the same, I think its ok
@sincerelyrob4240
@sincerelyrob4240 9 ай бұрын
From my research... Chevron has the better gas. I believe Shell is supposed to be up there, as well
@1991enduro
@1991enduro Жыл бұрын
Conclusions go get a 2 stroke I prefer 4t but it's cheaper and easier less moving parts see
@daveyboy7305
@daveyboy7305 Жыл бұрын
Yes , I love 2 strokes for their simplicity and ease of maintenance. Sound great too
@christopherevans4978
@christopherevans4978 Жыл бұрын
I think 2 strokes are more fun also because they are very light and I can wheelie on it easier cuz of the weight
@goon.1
@goon.1 Жыл бұрын
@WealthMafiiayeah i gotta 4 and 2 and the 4 is wayyyy easier to wheelie cuz as soon as u get in the powerband in a wheelie on a 2 it scares the balls outta you
@stevesmith756
@stevesmith756 Жыл бұрын
He’s right about Ca gas with Ethanol. It’s crap for engines. My bike and lawn equipment all see VP race gas. Cut my lawn time down two seconds a lawn
@sanchez714
@sanchez714 11 ай бұрын
Hello guys, I’ve been looking for an answere for some time. And have been confused on buying a two stroke or 4 stroke, overall I love both. But I have heard that two stroke tend to blow up faster, is that true?
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
it used to be true up until about year 2000 when all the MX bikes switched to high performance designed high revving 4 -strokes... which blow up more often than 2 strokes if they are not treated properly, as per this video.
@shamanandree4165
@shamanandree4165 Ай бұрын
“Ktm you can go a bit longer” LOL!
@chriscardoza9785
@chriscardoza9785 Жыл бұрын
I only run VP and pump gas mix and I use all up that day...
@littlereptilian7580
@littlereptilian7580 Жыл бұрын
In a four stroke ?
@stevesmith756
@stevesmith756 Жыл бұрын
I’ve stopped pump gas altogether. Ethanol is so bad for engines and seals
@h20mxracer222
@h20mxracer222 Жыл бұрын
I change my oil and air filter after every ride. Oil filter every other change. Oil is cheap compared to a new KX 450 engine.
@travharrell1713
@travharrell1713 Ай бұрын
For my bikes, 4 wheelers, and SxS, I have always put so much oil on my air filter that it is almost dripping off. Doing this I have to clean and re-oil the filter more often than my buddies. They say I am putting too much oil on it, but I argue that This is proof that my extra oil is catching more dirt. Am I wrong? Can you put too much oil on the filter? Thanks, Trav
@dbdb4274
@dbdb4274 9 ай бұрын
Start off thay video my crf250x sounded like that what would it be
@motodude23
@motodude23 11 ай бұрын
I've learned all this the hard way
@rt2255
@rt2255 Жыл бұрын
Number 1 they are 4 strokes more moving parts more complicated, easy fix buy older 2 strokw
@alkhaunting1787
@alkhaunting1787 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to send this to evan from the cboys
@frankcastle3827
@frankcastle3827 Жыл бұрын
Is it worth for me to rebuild my 2014 Yamaha bolt motor? Or to just buy a new one?
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
for sure rebuild it. should only need... piston/rings, valves and cam chain. only need to worry about the valve seats and the rod after about 400 hrs. but wait... did you mean a boat or a bike??? if you mean boat... wrong forum to ask.
@SCORPi0N5150
@SCORPi0N5150 10 ай бұрын
Modern dirt bikes blow up because there's too many strokes. Cut the strokes in half & it's amazing how much more durable the motors become...
@johntaylor8582
@johntaylor8582 11 ай бұрын
What about non-Ethinal?
@andy3d1
@andy3d1 2 ай бұрын
Ktm 500exc trail riding - I only charge my oil every 20 hours (300miles) never had a problem 3000 miles later.
@sandysmith7485
@sandysmith7485 Жыл бұрын
Good info as always. When I used to race MX, I ran pure AV gas that had lead in it. I haven't bought any in awhile, a long while. Does the AV gas still have lead in it? Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.
@MrSuperflydude
@MrSuperflydude Жыл бұрын
I've told sooo many of my friends about the old avgas. And yes its still leaded
@sandysmith7485
@sandysmith7485 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSuperflydude I also used to run it in my 69 Roadrunner on Friday nights when we cruised the strip.
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 Жыл бұрын
There's avgas with LL at the end indicating "Low Lead" but I think there are unleaded alternatives too. The lead protects the engine parts so they still use it to be extra safe with aviation :)
@stephenmiller5023
@stephenmiller5023 Жыл бұрын
I always ran a 50/50 mix of AV-gas & whatever 91 octane premium fuel I could get in my Yamaha 2 strokes ( RD -400 & YZ’s ) and Never had any issues once jetted correctly . Made a huge difference out playing in sand dunes on my old Tri-Z 250 3 Wheeler too . 👍
@Blakezilla594
@Blakezilla594 Жыл бұрын
Don't use 100LL. We don't need any more lead in the air. We need to wait for the dinosaur that is the FAA to approve unleaded recip fuels to be used.
@rocknrye9273
@rocknrye9273 10 ай бұрын
My little CR80 requires 93. But you're saying all 2 stroke bikes should be burning atleast 100 octane? I thought you need the right compression for certain octanes.
@ZeroTTK
@ZeroTTK Жыл бұрын
As someone who lacks knowledge i ask, is there any difference between a 4 stroke quad vs a 4 stroke bike in maintenance? I do not hear any quad guys needing to replace pistons at X ammount of hours.
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
in most cases, a huge difference, yes. think of it as a farm tractor engine, vs a race car. the engines are not comparable. most quads have low revving torquey 4 strokes, while the MX type bikes all run a high RPM design that is much more demanding about perfect maintenance. most trail bikes also use the old school engines. if its a quad, you need to set the valves once a year and change oil as often as you can, but the main thing is to get the engine rebuilt when it starts using a fair bit of oil. it will be burning more oil due to cylinder and valve guide wear. so in short, quad riders can just ride and stay happy, but modern MX bikes need everything to be perfect, as this vid well states.
@ZeroTTK
@ZeroTTK 11 ай бұрын
@@yukonjon5964 Thanks for the response!
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
@@ZeroTTK yep. first thing to go on a quad is the cam chain, and the cylinder wears enough that it burns a lot of oil even though it still has good compression. can burn up all the oil fast too, so gotta watch that. can normally hear the cam chain sound once the tensioner reaches its max. mainly when letting off the gas when parked.
@ZeroTTK
@ZeroTTK 11 ай бұрын
@@yukonjon5964 Understood, will keep an eye out, for now I only did 7 hours to my quad (winter here so can’t ride much)
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
@@ZeroTTK yeah your safe. it takes years and years to wear quads out. i've seen guys have the hour meter show 2000 hours and no one ever touched the engine. on a Honda.
@rztrzt
@rztrzt 11 ай бұрын
Avgas 100LL is cheaper than petrol in my country due to the heavy taxes on petrol. And I live about 8min from the airport.
@timothym2241
@timothym2241 Жыл бұрын
I can understand an improperly fitted air filter letting dirt in, but why would a dirty air filter let dirt into the engine?
@stevesmith756
@stevesmith756 Жыл бұрын
I can only assume the dirt is migrating through the filter
@unstoppableplayz6948
@unstoppableplayz6948 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevesmith756Yes Sir! It gets so saturated with dirt, it eventually is pulled through the dirt ridden pores. With a quick check before EVERY ride! Also, all the youngsters, stay off the rev limiter everytime you get in the air. It doesn't do much, and you don't have the luxury of motor rebuilds every ride like Haiden Deegan...lol.
@stevesmith756
@stevesmith756 Жыл бұрын
Yup all that rpm on an unloaded engine is really bad. Bad habits
@juju-of2by
@juju-of2by Жыл бұрын
On 450 he says 150-200 hrs for a complete top end rebuild or just a piston ??
@yukonjon5964
@yukonjon5964 11 ай бұрын
don't quote me but i think he means... piston/rings and cam chain, plus adjust valves. replace valves after they need adjusting two or three times.
@user-qz1nj6zm4l
@user-qz1nj6zm4l 2 ай бұрын
Havent watched the vid yet, but just gotta say, change ur valves. Its just as important as cam chain. Mine blew up because a valve broke of and it ruined alot.
@exo_9943
@exo_9943 Жыл бұрын
Ayy slovensko do toho!
@motozz8258
@motozz8258 Жыл бұрын
made in austria is that one , o)
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 Жыл бұрын
1: 4-stroke, 2: fast warmup, 3: lack of maintenance, 4: plating gone, 5: wrong jetting, 6: no oil, 7: Vertex piston
@jshepherd9359
@jshepherd9359 3 ай бұрын
98 oct in Europe is exactly the same as 91 in USA. fun fact.
@tribalbc
@tribalbc Жыл бұрын
North America octane numbers are Research + Motor octane divided by 2. Europe is just Research octane number. Hence the different octane numbers. Motor octane number is always much lower than Research.
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