Disasters Of The Century | Season 2 | Episode 21 | Queen Mary Curacoa Disaster | Ian Michael Coulson

[@stevesloan7132]

Never expect the other guy to do the right thing in a car, a plane, or a boat. Operate defensively. That is a philosophy that has actually saved my life more than once.

[@PhoenixShin]

That's how I always learned. My ex used to always go "but I have the right of way" and I would go "that may be true but don't expect others to follow it"

[@arisucheddar3097]

@@PhoenixShin "it's hard to argue right of way from the grave"

[@joseph-mariopelerin7028]

ya but 90% of the population . cant even get over '' my boat is bigger than yours''... thankfully, not too much of them end up owning a boat...

[@Heiress89]

Steve Sloan i couldn’t have said it better myself; don’t count on the other guy.

[@franl155]

aka "always assume that the other vehicle is being operated by an idiot"

[@carlmanvers5009]

Might is right. Never assume a larger vessel will give way, regardless of the rules of passage.

[@Brock_Landers]

What a needless loss of so many young men and a Royal Navy cruiser when they were all sorely needed for the war effort. The Curacoa went down in a needless accident that should not have happened at all. I stand in salute to the lost men and remove my hat in respect for these many souls.

[@stephenromesburg8250]

My grand father was there and was in the 319 bomber group when it all happened standing there on the aft of the ship. He saw the two halfs float by and saw the sailors running up through the decks like a cross section book. He even said they where warned about being too close several times as she was at speed.

[@inkyguy]

338 souls out of 430 perished that afternoon - or soon afterwards. What a horror.

[@watchgoose]

Compare that to the USS Indianapolis....

[@bekymooneyham5056]

@@watchgoose it isn't a contest.

[@islingthedead]

My Grand Poppy and his friend James Wright on the Queen Mary with the escort Curicoa. it was a total devastation. Along with human error and disaster my dad was only the 6 months old at the time. So he never got the chance to meet his father. To this day it still bothers my dad. My dad's family is from Prince Edward Island, Canada. All those men that lost their lives that day. My dad became a sergeant major in the army because of my Grand poppy he never got to meet his father. Sons and daughters without fathers. Wives who lost husbands. My heart goes out goes out to all wgo lost their lives.. We just went to Prince Edward Island so my dad can show me the different ships he worked on and the memory that he shared. The really great camaraderie between the men on the ship. I will always remember it and I thank my Dad so much for sharing this moment with me. God bless, everyone of you who Lost a lost a loved one.

[@equarg]

This truly constitutes having a bad day. May the dead RIP, may the survivors find peace.

[@tommylawton6253]

Bootlicker

[@Nico6th]

Two ships in the middle of the ocean and they manage to collide... that disaster was so unnecessary.

[@beenaplumber8379]

I remember hearing (rumor alert!) that the first two cars ever made crashed into each other. Maybe it was two of the first three ever made? Same idea, dubious source.

[@monaj2971]

This has actually happened more times that people realize.

[@rogerkearns8094]

Well, it was an escort assignment, they were supposed to be close.

[@rogerkearns8094]

@1tiercel Of course. Cheers :)

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@rogerkearns8094 And the captain of the Queen Mary had orders not to stop under any circumstances. Didn't give too many options.

[@mattkaustickomments]

One of my relatives went to England in the QM during WW2. Not long after being told very sternly “This ship stops for nothing or nobody”, he witnessed a couple of knuckleheads horsing around go over the rails. He saw them getting smaller and smaller in the wake behind the ship. He assumes they were probably not rescued by other members of the convoy.

[@hint0122]

That would suck

[@JoeZamecki]

What an unbelievable way to wrap things up. No responsibilities and no punishment when both captains were clearly at fault.

[@mattc3696]

Never heard of this tragic event. Thanks for covering it.

[@BadDayHQ]

Thanks for watching.

[@iPhone3GS_68]

Me nether

[@robertbruce1887]

I recently read a short documentary about what the Germans thought of their main Allied contenders ( the Soviets, the British, the Americans) The British they described as " Lions led by donkeys" The actions of the Queen Mary's captain, especially after being advised of the cruiser's nearby presence, is s good example of that.

[@keepadriansinging8062]

My grandfather died in this collision. Perceval Thompson

[@inkyguy]

😟

[@Meeckle]

:(

[@bottleofvodka1927]

What position was he?

[@nenblom]

May he RIP. So sorry to hear about that.

[@weaselworm8681]

Thank you for adding a personal note to the story

[@Chief2Moon]

It's hard for me to imagine how ships so large manage to collide on open waters

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Escort mission

[@woowoowoo6063]

despite the constant annoyance of commercial ads (Hello? This is why we watch KZbin - to ESCAPE bloody ads!!), this is a very good documentary of an under-recognized tragedy from WWII.

[@corettaha7855]

WooWooWoo 60 that day has passed. Reconnect cable. At least they put the ads in places that make sense

[@lemonsky5378]

If you use the Firefox browser, you can use the Adblock extension. It's free and will get rid of all ads. You can find similar extensions for other browsers if you look.

[@Sashazur]

Ads depend on your viewing habits. I only got one or two watching this.

[@phillipdavies1081]

So the QM junior officers considered a course change was required but the Captain counter-manded them is how I read that.

[@BadWebDiver]

Yep. The young officers seemed to have more common sense. But the captain had the final authority.

[@patriciaherman6499]

Love your channel. Very interesting and informative. Thanks

[@BadDayHQ]

Thanks

[@Noah_Levy]

Oh, hey, I found this again on Oct 2. Great work as always.

[@BadDayHQ]

Welcome back! More episodes coming October 05

[@shirleyjones9572]

My great uncle George Adlen lost his life on this. He was an officer's cook

[@keepadriansinging8062]

My grandfather did too. We should see if we could get all the survivor's family together on a facebook group or something

[@andrewforrest862]

And my Grandfather, P.O. W.A. Forrest. I have his " Maris Rex" certificate for crossing the line (equator) in my hallway. Dad (who was a chief himself) has a copy of 'Queen Mary and the Cruiser' , Thomas and Holmes. This goes into great detail. I like the animation with the Nightwish soundtrack, but Dad wont watch it. I was with Dad when he read Boutwood's obituary in the Telegraph. "About bloody time" he said.

[@andrewbell2101]

My grandad was also a survivor. Harry Bell. He can be seen in the picture at 19:50 on the video at one of the many reunions. Great idea for a Facebook page.

[@467312]

My Nans brother was a stoker 2nd class he died in the wreck his name was Arthur Blott

[@sandradee8641]

My condolences to the family

[@scottfowler9069]

As normal, nobody is punished. I believe the captain of the queen Mary is at fault for not watching were the hell he was going.

[@franl155]

This shook me. There's a reference to this in Alastair MacLean's "HMS Ulysses", referring to the practice of zig-zags, but not going into specifics. I've been curious about it ever since. I suppose the moral is "never assume" - in sea lore, it's the duty of the overtaking ship to keep out of the way of the overtaken, but when the ships' sizes are so disproportionate ..."never assume" ps I'm guessing that this was taken from American TV? not just the narration, but it had to give the backstory, which usually indicates an ad break - four times in 21 minutes?

[@MGG75]

My mistake! I don’t know why it says “Curaçao”, as in the Caribbean island, but it’s spelled “Curacoa”?? Strange!! 😳😳

[@eileenroberts7216]

My Great uncle died George William Westray 1922- 1942

[@raywhittington1368]

The Queen Mary Captain should have the blame put squarely on his stupid assumption that the "other ship would get out of the way". Those men died because a good set of Junior Officers had "dared to defy" his ego trip zig-zag pattern. He should have left the bridge in their capable hands! "Not one bit of guilt or lost sleep" he said? Too bad for him!

[@vibemunster]

@Tangerine Sky333 Agreed but they were on a straight course and The Queen Mary steered into them.

[@inkyguy]

Ray Whittington, it wasn't a matter of ego. It's a matter of what one believes is the correct protocol. If he sincerely believed he had the right of way then he would assume that is what is in the other captain's mind as well. Numerous accidents have happened this way. The most prominent in my mind is the collision between the two ships that caused the enormous explosion in Halifax, Nova Scotia, during the First World War In what was until the bombing of Hiroshima the largest man-made explosion in history.

[@vibemunster]

@Jens Nobel In short, if two ships are heading on a collision course, immediate action should be taken by both ships, regardless of expected course, rule number one.

[@Stitchwitchstitch]

That’s traditional British for “I screwed up and am haunted forever by this but let’s all pretend the opposite, for king and country”

[@danielsummey4144]

Wow. The cruiser captain came out unscathed? Many fine captains in the USN have had their career ruined for simply running aground somewhere.

[@kfstreich4787]

Should have had southerners in charge, to this day they would still be saying... You go ahead... No, you go ahead!!!

[@crazygarnett]

Not if they were acting like southern people when they get behind the wheel. They'd be going at top speed ignoring any dangers around them while shouting obscenities out the window.

[@236ben1]

I'm 10 minutes in, and it seems like the two captains pride turned into a game of chicken. That killed people

[@S.E.C-R]

There’s not much about this accident out there that I’ve found but this was the best! I wasn’t even aware of it until I ran across it on another QM video I was watching earlier.

[@Wearespurstv]

IT WAS NOT a chain of events that led to this disaster it was the ego of the captain of the boat who ordered the course change back to his course who is to blame 100%

[@corettaha7855]

alexander valaris glad you’re here to set us straight and point the finger in the proper direction. Blaming ain’t easy, but fortunately we have brave men like you who are quick to do it. I salute you mr blameful.

[@MovieMakingMan]

@@corettaha7855 Alexander is correct. The junior officers were forced back on a collision course. That captain was 100% responsible. He could have prevented the accident but his ego wouldn’t let him. NASA developed a program in the 1970s because junior flight crew members deferred their judgement to senior pilots. That lead to many needless crashes. Had this procedure been in place the accident wouldn’t have happened. Abd if that captain used any sense at all the accident wouldn’t have happened. He should have listened to his junior officers but instead he decided his ego was more important than 338 lives.

[@joemackey1950]

With no disrespect to those who died, as we said when I was in the Navy, "A collision at sea can ruin your entire day".

[@BadWebDiver]

In my opinion, except for extreme situations (like warfare), the health and safety of the crew should be major priority in running a sea service.

[@justinamarina3774]

Is this the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA? If so, I've seen it.

[@BadWebDiver]

Yes, it was sold to the US as a museum piece when it retired. Not sure the exact business history, but I'm sure someone can fill in the details.

[@johnjephcote7636]

@@BadWebDiver the liner Cunarder 234 was finally completed because of the need of the coming war for a fast trooper. As the Queen Mary it zigzagged across the Atlantic not in convoy relying on its speed. Its passenger work was all post-war.

[@chuck8835]

It was completed in 1935.

[@iPhone3GS_68]

Yep

[@nenblom]

The Cunard White Star Line. Isn't that the same company that the Titanic belonged to?

[@reallucasaura]

Somewhat, the White Star Line was the company that owned Titanic. Cunard White Star Line is the merger of the Cunard Line and the White Star Line.

[@iPhone3GS_68]

Cunard was it’s own company and white star was on its own when they had titanic but in the early 1930s they merged as white star went bankrupt and white stare was cut out of the name

[@rainmayhem4255]

The People in charge never feel guilty when they cause the death of innocent people that captain proved it

[@ejk4555]

The captain of the escort ship wasn't at fault. The queen mary was exponentially larger and faster *and* they were in UK waters. The Queen Mary crew absolutely needed to read the royal navy's maritime navigation & coordination rules and procedures, and because they were under-informed in that manner, they reached the wrong conclusion about who had right-of-way. This was made even worse by the fact that, in addition to the Queen Mary's captain not knowing the rules of UK waters, he just *ASSUMED* that he had the right-of-way without even bothering to check with the escorting, domestic UK ships. There are a lot of reasons the UK captain doesn't feel guilty, and just the state of being a person in charge is certainly not one of them

[@mazdaman2315]

Of all the examples I could use to prove you wrong I’m gonna use admiral Yamamoto he was the commander of the carriers of the imperial Japanese navy, he stated in his diary that he knew they could not win the war and that he was not in a position to talk his superior s out of attacking the USA and he expressed guilt for attacking Pearl Harbor and everything else he was doing but he also stated that disobeying the emperor would mean having to commit suicide and eventually he did kill himself partially forced by higher ups in the admiralty

[@stnicholas54]

One of those wartime accidents that occur frequently.

[@scottstage4820]

Too many ads and no effort was even made to at least place them where the original broadcast ads were. Difficult to watch.

[@DavidValter1984]

too many adds on this site. shame.

[@corettaha7855]

David Valter remember when youtube had no ads or just one at the front? Good old days. Of course you can still buy KZbin pay service and get a lot less of that.

[@davidj4662]

Just use adblock origin on desktops and cercube on iPad

[@twmallard38]

This is good information. Why i subscribed in the first place

[@BadDayHQ]

Thanks

[@pikeman80]

Why did they state how many officers were onboard the Curacao? Aren't all the people on there humans? Or are some humans more important? And the assholes on the Queen Mary that caused the crash just kept right on going. And the "War is war" quote at the end was incredibly insensitive and disrespectful to those who died.

[@clare5250]

My Great Uncle Claude Wright died on The Curacoa,,,,,,So sad.

[@sirmcheinz8319]

Sailmaker WRIGHT, CLAUDE NEVILLE

[@clare5250]

@@sirmcheinz8319 YES!

[@kovacsabelkristof3566]

It's like most of the ships of the white star line are cursed. But rest in peace all of the dead

[@bob39434]

The Queen Mary was a Cunard ship.

[@kovacsabelkristof3566]

But isn't the white star line merged with cunard?

[@Firebrand55]

Seems to me as if the captain of the Curacoa wasn't aware that the QM would change course to stbd, i.e.towards his ship...........that was what caused this disaster; lack of communication.....just like the 1917 Halifax disaster.

[@imasiontist653]

these always stress me out, I want them to realise what is going to happen, the boat ones are the worst because it always seems like they should be able to move.

[@ruthmeow4262]

What ever happened to 'Whoever has the biggest ship has right of way?'

[@andychatton7609]

Complacency kills. Apathy prevails. Ships continue to collide to this day and sadly, always will.

[@justinamarina3774]

Glad some of them survived.

[@granskare]

my uncle was stationed in the UK during WW2. It could be that the came home in the Queen Mary.

[@Mk1rceme]

My Grandfather rode this old mule across the ocean in 1942. Before this happened though.

[@scotttilson8876]

It’s wild how two ships can hit each other in so much water.

[@chuck8835]

It is a wild thing but also take note of the Andria Doria and the Stockholm.

[@Meeckle]

I know this is petty, but the fact that nearly nobody pronounced Curacoa correctly, a lot of them pronouncing it coração. Just found it a little frustrating.

[@steamerbv]

Correction, QM was launched in 1934. After fitting out she entered service in 1936.

[@BadDayHQ]

Thanks for the clarification.

[@jeffrobarge6378]

Wow! I have been aboard the Queen Mary as well as the Spruce Goose in Long Beach, CA and had no idea that it was used as a troop ship much less involved in this incident. Amazing what you can learn on KZbin.... Lol!

[@abbeyjane1306]

I was on both also long ago. My daughter and I were on the Queen Mary almost 2 years ago. I was amazed at the condition of the ship. Wood rot and rust can be seen all over the ship.

[@Ama-Elaini]

@@abbeyjane1306 I have just been studying about the old ships on KZbin recently and there was a news video where it's said that Queen Mary might actually capsize within the next few years if the necessary repairs aren't being made.

[@steamerbv]

Oh my, QM not a cruise ship; an Ocean Liner, please. That's like calling a race car a mini-van.

[@BadDayHQ]

Good point

[@jnwd1723]

When young, we took a tour of the Queen Mary in San Diego. As I was walking towards the railing, I wasn't watching where I was stepping and I felt my right foot go down. I thought I was going to fall off the ship and grabbed on to the railing so fast. It was just a little space where the decking didn't abut to the sides. Scared me to death...lol.....

[@kevinhoward9593]

The Queen Mary is in Long Beach some 120 miles away buddy.

[@nicholealderfer191]

I toured the Queen Mary as a ten year old, all I could tell you is that it is in Southern California. We were visiting people in LA and we also went to Disney Land. Also got in a horrible wreck in New Mexico so that is what I take away from the trip the most. I remember being bored touring it but I was ten.

[@INCC74656I]

i just dont understand this, how can such large objects ram each other? we avoid other cars and trucks on the road and yet even in 2017 we had navy ships bumping into each other...

[@krashd]

The bigger the ship the slower it turns, if you want to avoid something you need to start your turn half a kilometre away, this is why the ocean has right-of-way rules and 99% of accidents are human error due to two captains both assuming they have right of way.

[@TheByard]

As said in the video when you have the mass of the QM, it doesn't just change course like a car. The pivot point of a ship is about half way the stem to stern length. The only ways to slow a ship is to stop the engine and then engage reverse thrust as the engine's are direct drive, the other is to heal the ship off course. All this takes time and at QM speed something she didn't have. Why HMS Curacao was not following the starboard line of escorts to allow to QM to slip in between the port and starboard lines I don't know. The sailing orders appear to show her coming astern of the QM, but then I'm only an arm chair button pusher. When sailing my boat I was never happy with relying on the "stand on" ship rule or the "overtaking rule" of faster craft. So I would make a bold course move for all to see and get out of their way.

[@inkyguy]

Good Moaning Vietnam, the "faster craft rule" sounds too prone to error and doomed to cause disaster. I'm a landlubber, but to my mind the overtaking craft should bear the responsibility for safety.

[@corettaha7855]

INCC74656I we don’t always avoid road collisions lol. Hate to shatter your blissful illusions son.

[@Crashed131963]

Was the guy steering the navy ship blind? The much smaller and maneuverable ship should have gotten out of the way.

[@THypher1]

Queen Mary was actually faster than the cruiser in this case. The cruiser was elderly (being of WW1 vintage) and couldn't go as fast anymore in the conditions at the time. What's more, both were both blamed for the disaster in different proportions. The smaller ship would normally be more manoeuvrable but not in this case.

[@laurenskee2665]

With boats, both captains are always blamed. Seen and be seen rule.

[@kfstreich4787]

John Smith blinded by arogance

[@inkyguy]

THypher1, the smaller ship based on size alone would make it more maneuverable than the far larger Queen Mary. Even if it isn't anywhere as fast it is still far more nimble, and apparently it had sufficient power to keep pace with the Queen Mary, even if it was only steering a straight line.

[@inkyguy]

3:23: "Just 60 meters short of the Empire State Building …." Sixty meters (197 feet) is not a negligible difference. That's 20 storeys.

[@kinte1870]

At the time that was huge for a ship.

[@MGG75]

Curaçao, not Curacoa!! Are you able to change the title of this clip, as well as the opening title card of said clip?? Just so you know? Thanks! 👍😎❤️

[@hayunnie]

The ship is not spelled the same as the country. The title is correct, it was called the HMS Curacoa.

[@jenniferbrewer5370]

Was a DOTC episode ever done on the Piper Alpha explosion?

[@staceyezell9685]

Ikr thats a good one ..great suggestion maybe they shd

[@inkyguy]

Jennifer Brewer, yes. You can always check IMDb.

[@asd36f]

When I heard that voice I knew Eric Grove was going to make an appearance - I'd like to have a dollar for every WW2 documentary I've watched that features him!

[@Ser_Redshirt]

I subscribed to your channel for one reason: Your narrator knows how to correctly pronounce Guillotine. (Gee-O-Teen) not (Gilloteen). Bravo guys, keep up the good work.

[@BadDayHQ]

Cool

[@dfinlen]

Well it was produced in canada 20 years ago.

[@inkyguy]

Yeah, but as I've watched these I've noticed he's gotten a lot of other pronunciations wrong.

[@joshuaplotkin8826]

the Queen Mary was sturdy enough to cut a warship in half? Holey shit! that is one well built ship.

[@michaelcuff5780]

I get a big kick out of a beautiful ship that big that can move that fast!

[@chdreturns]

Gonna watch this later.

[@equarg]

Contingence Some of us HAVE A LIFE IN THE REAL WORLD! I am coming to watch today BECAUSE I have an 8+ hour job and this uploaded as I prepared for work. So there is no reason for the profanity!

[@contingenceBoston]

equarg -- Jesus, I was kidding, you creep.

[@toldyaso13]

equarg ???

[@Nico6th]

wait... it cut the ship in two parts? O.O waoh!

[@BadWebDiver]

Yeah, the QM was so much bigger and heavier, and every design structure has weak points or tolerance levels above which it can't handle. Naval ships are built maneuverability and tactics, they're usually not big on handling large force impacts.

[@Tindometari]

Ocean liner massing 80,000 tons hits destroyer at ~25 knots ... Destroyer getting cut in two is not surprising. That is a titanic amount of kinetic energy delivered.

[@inkblot131]

Tim-stamp 18:00; this guy could play President Lyndon Johnson. Maybe he's a brother or distant relative?

[@Dovietail]

Hmm. The Lusitania was too fast to fall prey to submarines, too--but she did

[@jeroenb.340]

There only was one small chance for an u-boat to fire a torpedo but only when they knew the route of the liner. But that was nearly impossible to achieve.

[@michaelbutterfield1260]

I hope the guy who “forgot to mention” how close the ships were when changing shifts lived AND spent the rest of his life feeling guilty

[@randyjohnson6845]

Indianapolis captain didn't believe in zigzagging but Gordon the queen Mary captain was doing 30 knots and zigzagging in the Hudson river going past the statue of liberty

[@molly-zx9cr]

An exercise in poor communication

[@BadDayHQ]

That's for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@nenblom]

When I’m driving, I never trust other drivers and I drive defensively. May the victims of the Queen Mary and the Curaçao RIP. ❤️❤️🙏🙏

[@jlastre]

Did they have electric quartz clocks back in 42?

[@vector6977]

jlastre Nixie tube displays

[@jlastre]

vector6977 Not sure how that answers my question, although it was a bit rhetorical. Nixie is a display whether or not the movement is quartz and did not come out until 1955. The MOVEMENT of the clock on the bridge of the ship @ 7:35 is quartz. Quartz movement was invented by Bell Labs in 1927 but was not used commercially until the 1960s. I remember my family getting our first quartz clock in the mid 70s so this was a WTF moment watching this.

[@corettaha7855]

jlastre yes

[@STARDRIVE]

1000´s of lives being at stake. Both captains not quite sure if the other would yield or take evasive action. But let´s not contact each other to make sure.

[@PhoenixShin]

I was wondering that as well. They were able to contact the destroyers 2 hours ahead to arrange a rescue mission but couldn't ask the escort ship if they'd let them pass?

[@Howiesgirl]

Ship is the Curacao... Video title is misspelled. Love your videos. Very informative.

[@hayunnie]

It's not. It was called the HMS Curacoa. It's not spelled the same as the country.

[@braddavis4276]

Great Documentary , WAY WAY WAY TOO MANY ADDS in This Show ! It’s sometimes HARD TO WATCH ! Ok Who wants your Products ? Not Me !

[@BadDayHQ]

We only upload the video we have nothing to with the placement of the commercials or how many can play. You Tube does offer a premium service which has no ads.

[@franchescasmith2187]

Why didn't those aboard the Queen Mary throw life jackets into the sea or anything that could float? Might have helped. Just a thiught

[@Cath_frost.]

Franchesca smith They did!

[@corettaha7855]

Franchesca smith why didn’t you do more to save them? You could have thrown empty wine jugs for flotation devices. Just a thought

[@somelurker6115]

What have we learned? *Don't play chicken with moving skyscrapers*

[@alcoholic2412]

Howcome all these ship disaster vids say, "commanded by Captain so&so the most experienced and highly regarded commander in the fleet"? and then disaster strikes 🤔

[@robertbruce1887]

Another example of how junior commanders are more on the ball than pompous senior commaders who are more pleased their position then caring about their actions. The junior officers on the Queen Mary had the concern & common sense to be concerned about the approaching cruiser & take precautions, where the captain showed the traditional lack of concern, oh so British!

[@jdearing46]

Stiff upper lip that captain had, didn't lose a wink of sleep.

[@jamescrab4110]

So? That's just normal.

[@cymbaliv5586]

One of war's very many tragedies. But whoever made this documentary didn't spend too much on the funny props: when it came to uniforms, was the dressing-up box in the playroom almost empty when they got there? Everyone - from the captain to the Engine Room CPO and the helmsman - has two non-Royal Navy rings pinned to his sleeve; some have RAF peaked caps with the RN badge pinned on to it, and everyone seems to be wearing the same civvy raincoat. Oh, and let's not forget the quartz clock on the bridge... Total cost of props: $4.50. Average time out of acting school for the boys playing officers (one "with more than 25 years' experience") two months three days...

[@RatPfink66]

Not only don't they have the budget for uniforms, they don't even have the budget to research uniforms.

[@benlaskowski357]

Uh, girls? Rules Of The Road. It's called defensive driving. THE LARGER SHIP HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

[@felixcat9318]

The arrogance of the two Captains, each convinced that they were in the right, a matter that could have been resolved by radio contact between the two vessels, is what caused this wholly avoidable tragedy! How utterly typical that the two Captains that caused the sinking and drownings of 388 innocent men went on to be given commands of other vessels without a stain on their character.

[@Dannyedelman4231]

I heard that ghost have been sited in the ship maybe it's the lost crew from HMS couiosa ( sorry for anyone I have bad spelling I don't want to offend anyone) may God bless them

[@inkyguy]

Danny Edelman, the Queen Mary is famously haunted. There have been sightings of apparitions of what are presumed to be passengers and one crewman, but I've never heard of any actual apparitions of wartime seamen. However, there have been reports of screams and shrieks coming from the area of the ship where the collision occurred. The story is on an old episode of "Unsolved Mysteries" with Robert Stack.

[@Sumo-san]

Ghosts don’t exist bruh

[@monaj2971]

@@Sumo-san That is your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it but @inkguy is entitled to his as well. I can't say whether ghosts exist or not, however I have seen something that defies what I know to be so called "true". And my opinion, that I am entitled to is that spirits-ghosts-apparitions do exist. Somethings exists....

[@Sumo-san]

Mona J that is called anecdotal evidence. Not applicable in scientific study. I’d rather listen to a true researcher than someone who “saw something” once. That’s just me, though.

[@laurenm6511]

I dont know why im so hyper focused on this tragedy lately but did they NOT have radios to talk to each other? it seem just beyond wrong. My heart breaks for those who lost their lives and did the captain of one say he didnt lose a nights sleep? Did i hear that right? I am sorry for the relatives that are also on this comments page. I truly am sorry for your losses

[@valerieurquhart3133]

Wartime "Radio Silence" forbade use of radios so as not to attract the enemy.

[@johnrobinson5156]

A real Cutter Class.

[@BadWebDiver]

Dark humor, LOL!

[@jameswebb4593]

Surly five minutes of research would have given the director the correct uniforms of those on the Q. M and RN Cruiser. British ships officers never have and never will dress as chauffeurs. And in wartime short hair was mandatory. One would expect a higher standard from Canada.

[@dickramsbottom1616]

Here is a rule of thumb that applies to planes, trains, automobiles, car, trucks, kayaks, pedalos, pushchairs and bicycles. Never assume that the idiot bearing down upon your is aware of the rules of the road.

[@CW-dl2dd]

The worst thing is that a number of men were sucked into the propellors of the Queen Mary

[@jimjonrs3932]

What happens when we assume?

[@hawkmaster381]

I can’t help but wonder about what makes a person give a thumbs-down of an accurate reading of a historical event.

[@BadDayHQ]

I suppose they didn't like the style of the production or they thought it wasn't very interesting.

[@hawkmaster381]

@@BadDayHQ Perhaps. But it seemed perfectly fine to me.

[@kewlztertc5386]

Why couldn't the QM drop a few of its collapsible lifeboats. They didn't need to stop, just toss them overboard.

[@THypher1]

Queen Mary was going 28.5 knots plus at the time, the collapsible lifeboats she had onboard during her wartime service would have disintegrated on impact with the sea.

[@dannyedelmanakacardguy422]

the lifeboats would have either sunk right there on the spot or broke on impact with the water

[@Kris-qy7hh]

danny edelman aka card guy 42 or they would’ve been churned up by the propellers.

[@lucyterrier1348]

These brave ken were mostly in their early twenties. A stark contrast to the wimpy men colleges are spitting out today.

[@beenaplumber8379]

I think our younger generations are doing quite nicely thank you :-) That generation won WWII, the next generation landed us on the moon, my generation completed the Human Genome Project, and today's college graduates are creating amazing things out of nothing but information. There are peaceful ways of making incredible contributions to this world. Stop looking at the bad ;-)

[@PleasestopcallingmeDoctorImath]

when you ad GoodDay hq on here you should say something along the lines of, "if you enjoy badday hq you may not enjoy goodday hq, but check it out"

[@dobeus8957]

Doctor Robotnik That's so funny, I thought the same thing!

[@MaximGhost]

8:56 Is that George R. R. Martin or Jack Black or both?

[@snakes3425]

They say the ghosts of the Curacoa still haunt Queen Mary

[@rmstitanic8404]

o_o

[@rmstitanic8404]

7:39 that place on QM is not real

[@valerieurquhart3133]

Many comments regarding the captain's claim of losing no sleep. In time of war, decisions are made under duress, the majority are correct, and unfortunately, some wrong. If an officer starts to doubt, then later to second-guess themselves, eventually they will become ineffectual resulting in the deaths of many more. A sign of a good officer is to learn from ones mistakes and move forward to become even more effective and efficient. Obviously this happened since he was transferred to a minesweeper and not a desk job. As for losing no sleep, he has his ghosts.

[@Prone2Thrill]

You had one job....just inexcusable incompetence

[@RedKresnik11]

I wonder why they don’t mention that several men were sucked into the Queen Mary’s propellers?

[@mazdaman2315]

Didn’t the Olympic do something similar, like twice?

[@BadDayHQ]

Not sure it would be interesting to do the research on that one.

[@vibemunster]

Two arrogant captains showing bad seamanship, if there is any chance of a collision you should take early avoiding action.