Disclosure: Loudness The SMART Way (Don't Smash Your Drums)

[@SolStateMusic]

Shoutout to Guy from Disclosure for giving SO much to the music community! Legend Track ID: Never Enough by Disclosure - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnzEgIWNm9BsitU

[@_thomaswarburton]

Shout out to you and all your hard work on these vids legend!

[@LocaliLLocano]

This is a good drop

[@jakehettinger1087]

Wanted to highlight how much I love that you make the video black and white and then color after when the artist is showing the before and after with something it's really helpful!

[@SolStateMusic]

Thanks for the feedback! Will make sure to continue this

[@jetzgehtsloos4829]

crazy that harry kane also knows about mixing, what a talent

[@soccerlover7ish]

But he had to give up his football skills 😔

[@Ninjjadog]

🤣

[@tompearsall1060]

nah hahahahahahaha

[@SoundBenda-ug1bz]

Hahahahahaha why he hsnt been scoring lately.

[@taylorblyth94]

As if Harry Kane can string that many words together in a coherent sentence

[@disclosure]

🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

[@Tomani02]

The myths, the legends. Disclosure, the only electronic duo I genuinely enjoy.

[@nickepic1863]

Thank you guys for sharing 🙏🏻

[@RobVice]

Love you guys, the fame didn't mess with your head and you stay so humble and involved in the community which is super rare for musicians of your level. Hats down and keep it real! 🎩👊

[@marleycarroll]

Ayy

[@DavidGonzalez-oo2cw]

Absolute legends

[@templarexemplar35]

I've learned so much from his streams. Literally go through a 2 hour stream like its nothing

[@tilda140]

highly suggesting taking notes, then collecting all of them at the end, cleaning them up, and having them for refreshers

[@akimyoung8507]

What’s his twitch name?

[@templarexemplar35]

@@akimyoung8507 i don't know. Probably just look up disclosure I guess

[@tracklistwarrior]

The info about dB levels is so useful, thanks

[@deadislander]

I legit just screen shot that cause I suck at levels my God

[@tracklistwarrior]

@@deadislander same hahaha

[@nickepic1863]

It depends on what music you are producing, so don't take it as a perfect formula and experiment.

[@SolStateMusic]

@@nickepic1863 Definitely! That said if you make Disclosure's type of house, this is a helpful start.

[@nickepic1863]

@@SolStateMusic Exactly, thank you 🙏🏻

[@JamesRamboPearce]

He's just like the most open and lovely guy to learn from

[@alexwild1435]

And then you see some other track breakdowns where they’re hitting the limiter HARD on the drum buss and on the master and it still sounds good. Just depends on the track and what you’re going for I suppose.

[@dirkchurlish4074]

Or it doesn't really matter but is fun to talk about. (That goes for changes in peak level as well.) I blame KZbin/Twitch itself, not Guy though. A man's gotta infotain somehow! I prefer his music. API-2500 is not even old by compressor standards, it's from the 90's. (Ignore me, I'm crabby.) Edit: It's from 2002. (And I'm still crabby about it.)

[@SolStateMusic]

There's many ways to do it! I view all these videos as rough guides. If you know the rules you can break them with confidence!

[@fiachnaodonnell7895]

There's even videos of Guy where he's smashed the drum into the Limiter at -8 or whatever hahaha

[@fuzzy6576]

I think if you’re making riddim it might be better to clip things for stylist and sound design purposes. But with house music I think it sounds better to do it the “right” way. At the end of the day it’s preference as long as you are intentional about it

[@morpheus3693]

You’re talking about rap producers nah ?! Ahahah 🤣😜

[@nicholasfreilich1851]

I've been struggling with my drums lately, and this was a revelation. Thanks for editing this together in such an effective way.

[@SolStateMusic]

Glad it helped! Great drums are so important ;)

[@djsyntrix]

This one is pure gold! So useful for those trying to understand saturation and compression! Much love!

[@micro2cool]

0:35 Thanks so much for including this. I saw that when I was watching the whole stream and thought I really need to write that down, but I forgot

[@SolStateMusic]

Got you ;)

[@nexusobserve]

4:00 when youre rolling off the lows of the acoustic kick, try switching between cut and shelf instead of hitting the polarity button

[@SolStateMusic]

Good tip! Also can adjust filter intensity (like 12 vs 24 db)

[@SweejitOfficial]

The analogy of distortion types was probably the most succinct way of putting it I've ever heard, really helped me visualize what it's doing. Thank you!

[@quinn1139]

Guy is just such a fuckin legendary guy

[@isaacanthonydj4124]

0:40 that's the money shot! appreciated!

[@isaacanthonydj4124]

i been trying to figure out what sort of -db i want my TR8s and MC707 into my Octatrack for gain staging, and this really helps, appreciate!

[@sieje]

Thank you for the quick gain staging info for levels.

[@goaciid3741]

thanks Sol State for uploading this videos! We really appreciate it brooo!!

[@SolStateMusic]

Thanks :)

[@RobVice]

This is flipping golden

[@SlavaChrome]

Oh, you know it depends from style. Let’s say, techno with rumble on the low together needs more hard limiting, than house music. It’s just a genre thing. But yeah! You right! It really great recommendations for dynamic music! Thank you a lot! ❤ 🙏

[@killedmonkmusic]

Such an informative and needed video. Thank you so much!

[@karlonehouserecords]

love you way of understanding things! it appeals to me.

[@joshy909]

you're one of the best guys I know and I don't even know you. that's a quandary but really love the vids and they give me d hepas. thank you

[@SolStateMusic]

Aw thanks, glad the vids have helped :)

[@Seriouspup]

Best channel on KZbin by a country mile 🤠🐄

[@SolStateMusic]

Hahah thanks

[@chestercastillo9612]

Now, I understand why some of my mix sound like distorted vibrating. Because of limiter.

[@yoelwww]

Is the information on disclosures stream useful for mainstream pop productions?

[@josephfitzgibbon2961]

His production is closer to pop than dance in some ways so I would say yes.

[@1998Cebola]

since he is a mainstream pop producer at this point I would say yes

[@SolStateMusic]

Very general question. Of everything, Disclosure's vocal tips are great for pop.

[@RBmusic2000]

love this guy. explains it so well. He has made me more of a disclose fan. Thanks for sharing tips when others are so selfish and shady

[@topasmusic]

Thanks for all the useful tips! Love your videos

[@SolStateMusic]

Thanks, hope its all helping

[@markkim11]

3:30 Daddy: Son...You need to upgrade your computer?

[@CLOUDZzzProducer]

much respect for what you give to us !

[@speedcrawlmusic]

This is so helpful ❤

[@MrAudioClash]

This is top notch! 👌🏻 Thank you ❤️

[@chilluscrypto]

Love these videos!!

[@eiknxdux8261]

Don't smash your drums. Proceeds to smash the drums.

[@lens8933]

thank you thank you. so so much thank you.

[@djgunjan1717]

THANK YOU GUY! FOR EVERYTHING!

[@benja303]

Compression saturation’s and limiting Drum bus at -8

[@antonioe.2396]

Top tier content

[@SolStateMusic]

My man!!

[@sha3439]

He compresses kick in solo track with drum bus kick is compressed for almost 8 db

[@Gilwtt]

Yeahhhh Rock it... Love this kind of video actually... Basic and so understoodable which is... basically the way to make music ;-) GREAT!!

[@AKAtAGG]

4 minutes of gold, new sub incoming.

[@SolStateMusic]

Thanks! You'll learn a lot here

[@Jamieamusic]

How do you read my mind man. I was just writing up some notes on db levels from that stream aha. You got a camera in here?

[@plodaerte]

hes inside the walls jamie

[@SolStateMusic]

Took some notes from Squid Games ;)

[@legoccez]

This channel is gold

[@SolStateMusic]

🙌

[@gustavokoshikumo]

good stuff as usual

[@Goldchunks4]

Is he taking about a bus chain of effects when he mentions compression saturation and limiting? Like on the bus channel or on the individual tracks?

[@jonahkaplan8720]

yep - compression, saturation, limiter on the drum bus

[@Goldchunks4]

@@jonahkaplan8720 ahh thank you

[@jonahkaplan8720]

@@Goldchunks4 no prob. & certainly there's some processing on the individual drum tracks too, but that's not what he's talking about here

[@tasenova2717]

alright, but people normally don't put a kick in their drum bus right? cause I like to put my bass and kick seperate

[@bedtimeread]

Hey Sol, could you please put what stream this is from (date) and the link to it if exists? Thank you!

[@SolStateMusic]

I think the original video got deleted

[@bedtimeread]

@@SolStateMusic oh too bad.. thanks for reply 👊

[@kingo5940]

good stuff! thank you so much

[@karvn1148]

Is this processing genre dependent?

[@SolStateMusic]

Yes, DNB producers (or other hyper-loud genre's) would approach this differently

[@arccely520]

I want to make music, but i dnt know where t start, what kind of sample pack,plugin, preset i should download? Any recommend ?

[@SolStateMusic]

Just download Ableton, it has everything you need to start.

[@arccely520]

@@SolStateMusic actually i use fl studio

[@TheMultiCircus]

@@arccely520 go to r/drumkits and get ur drums/808s. a lot of em wont be high quality but sum of em are. just use what u like for drums and eventually you’ll be able to tell the difference between high and low quailty drum samples.if u just started i’d honestly recommend learning how the keyboard works a little with the base presets in FL. if u insist surge is a great, free synth plugin. there’s extra layers and this is by no means a guide on how to do it forever, but you’ll figure that shit out as u go. now go make sum music !

[@willievaughn6474]

Awesome

[@everybodyhasoul5438]

Shit, this is a really good video.

[@kollyborda.]

10/10 !

[@krimenation1901]

#LEGEND!

[@marleyxl8959]

Is this twitch?

[@akimyoung8507]

What’s his twitch name?

[@SolStateMusic]

/disclosure

[@gelailoh]

3:21

[@tombaye]

actually surprised that he thinks clipping is saturation

[@mvricks90]

he is saying: "saturation is literally cutting off the transients". Think he is talking about limiting here right? As far as I know saturation adds new frequencies both lower and upper harmonics its not cutting anything

[@SolStateMusic]

He is talking about saturation. But this also applies to limiters/clippers in similar ways. On the EQ spectrum, saturation adds upper & lower harmonics. On an oscilloscope, different types of saturation (tape vs tube) change the shape of a waveform. In terms of peak vs RMS levels (I think what Guy from Disclosure is talking about), you can see saturation can reduce the peak level aka reducing transients.

[@mvricks90]

@@SolStateMusic gotcha thanks:)

[@yogasiva2009]

You can see it yourself just do the following. Take a drum sample and put camel crusher with high distortion and render out the audio. You can visibly see the the squared out waveform.

[@mvricks90]

@@yogasiva2009 awesome cheers!

[@yanivdor8954]

legand

[@urigeheadmot1196]

It‘s just clipping, don‘t overcomplicate it haha

[@Liza.Wharton]

this is like religious levels of advice so you might want to take them with a grain of salt. limiters don't destroy your drums. that's literally what he said. "putting everything through a limiter can just destroy it" yeah, putting it through any existing compressor, limiter or dynamic plugin CAN destroy it. what?

[@HollerAtcherBoi]

I'm in a pro studio, with exceptional acoustics, listening through a pair of ATCSCM50ASL's with 2 15" subs, and hate to say it, but in the intro around 0:15- the unprocessed drum bus is fatter than the processed one. Darker too, but fatter nonetheless. You lost some serious sub on the processed version.

[@OlaB245]

Doesnt sound fatter at all...

[@1pelillos1]

[@ramseysounds2086]

Stop the myth of needing -6 db headroom going into the master buss. As long as digital is below 0, it wont clip 🤦‍♂️

[@dirkchurlish4074]

6dB is excessive, but files with levels too close to 0 dB will indeed wind up with an unpleasant bit of distortion when encoded one or more times using AAC, MP3, etc. Also they may clip the end user's DAC on playback, even without there being encoding, the sonic results of which will of course vary from DAC to DAC. 1 dB is enough, but DON'T say it doesn't matter! Every line matters! (This is a quote from the movie Rushmore which I have added in levity and jest. Funny, isn't it?)

[@Selrisitai]

I feel like if someone wants it fat, he should probably just add instruments that make something fat, rather than trying to achieve fatness through trickery and smashing the track. If it's not fat, it's a failure of the musicians (or whatever you call an EDM creator). That said, anyone teaching people to keep drums sounding dynamic is alright with me.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

Where's your work?

[@oinkooink]

Ooh get out your glow sticks