Discover the ancient Roman festival of the Saturnalia

[@qbqb99]

Jeremiah ch10

[@Michael-pn5lp]

Strange that Christmas Day is 12 days BEFORE the Epiphany conception 265 day gestation and birth on The Day of Atonement, and 12 days AFTER that is the Last Great Day - just like the "four and twenty elders" around the Throne of God in Revelations ! 25th December was also never a part of the Roman festival of Saturnalia. 2+6+5=13 John the Baptist's gestation was also 265 days and he was born on the 10th Abib - the same day the Lamb of God came down the Mount of Olives on a donkey proclaimed in Greek as "Oh Saviour" ("Hosannah"), with the way being prepared for him with palm fronds - on the birthday of John the Baptist who prepared the way for Him, and the same day the Passover lamb is selected. The 25th of December started Mary's follicular phase and Christ was conceived on the 13th day Epiphany. 12 disciples + Christ = 13 Don't let pagans steal and demonise Christmas Day without an in depth investigation first. I also made that same mistake on this journey.....

[@Ermagron]

There is nothing to steal, the 25 was called dies soli natali. Was made by aurelian for the yearly rebirth of the sun god Sol invictus. Christian came later on and steal the day. And almost all tradition from saturnali.... In italy the 25 is still called natale and not christmas aka giorno di cristo ... And if you are exchanging presents, being good with less fortunate ppl (aka ancient slave) or making a tree it's due pagan roman tradition.

[@Michael-pn5lp]

@@Ermagron Secondary sources are usually fabrications. Academics find no Primary Sources for all these claims of pagan deities born on Dec 25th - they are all secondary source fabrications long after Christianity started.

[@tsorapop-gaming1500]

You are so focused on the day. Everything that the world likes of the holiday is pagan related. Elves. Santa. Deer. Snow. Evergreens. But what didn't spread to the world? Nativity scenes. Feel free to do you, and we will do us.

[@Michael-pn5lp]

@@tsorapop-gaming1500 the day of the Nativity Scene was actually the 28th September, and 12 days afterwards is the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles. Christ was conceived and born as I describe in the post above: 12 days follicular phase - 13th day Epiphany conception - 265 days gestation (2+6+5=13) - Day of Atonement birth - and Last great Day 12 days later. All encompassed from the 25th December to the 10th October.

[@mcLynguist]

I am Happy to see more Christians not celebrating this Pegan holiday, though it seems like you have tried to justify it with a completely subjective calculation. You believe in Scripture correct? If its something you found on the internet which someone came up with, or a something you put together to support your previously conceived belief and it's not in scripture, would that be Blasphemy in Christianity? The equation you have made is undebatable subjective and insignificant, since you determined its meaning. IS it written in your scripture that "Jesus PBUH was born on the 13th of December"?? No, it is not written, just like it doesn't say the birth date of Jesus pbuh was the 25th.. If you are sincere in your faith and follow scipture, evidence and logic can you tell me which of the 12 disciples actually authored any of the bibles? Did Matthew, Mark, Luke and John actually write those? they did not according to Christian Scholars and the books there are written in. I know its surprising that it's not common knowledge among Christians but there is not any bible in its original language of revelation, we do not have Credible scripture from the time of ISA (Jesus) pbuh. and that is ok because he came for "a people" at "a Time" just like Musa (Moses) pbuh came for a people at a Time. The last prophet came with the final message for everyone till the end of time. please keep up your research, i wish you the best.

[@boris8787]

I wish they would ban Xmas - and instead believe the Bible. John 14:6.

[@wills242]

lol wtf

[@tonymaurice5889]

Just kidding. John 4:20