Discover the truth: Which GPU should you choose? 4070 Super, 4070 or RX 7800XT?

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0:00 - Intro
0:59 - What's The Right GPU For Me?
1:55 - RTX 4070 Super
3:14 - What Does A GPU Actually Do?
4:15 - What Do I Want My GPU To Do?
6:31 - Comparing 4070 Super To Similar GPUs
8:02 - The Data
10:47 - Changing The Way We Think About Performance
11:27 - Where Does That Leave Us?
13:20 - Final Thoughts
16:10 - Outro
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Discover the truth: Which GPU should you choose? 4070 Super, 4070 or RX 7800XT?
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@Juice_VI
@Juice_VI 6 ай бұрын
This was honestly the best review that I’ve seen on the 4070S. Well done sir!
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 6 ай бұрын
up until the part where he said AI is required for good performance.
@Econos_1
@Econos_1 6 ай бұрын
@@CRF250R1521the ai tech does a lot. Sometimes it makes it look worse but new titles are implementing it quite well.
@EastAngliaUK
@EastAngliaUK 5 ай бұрын
its a good card i like my 4070s
@Orly74
@Orly74 6 ай бұрын
I got the GPU I could afford , the 7800xt!
@ShadarThePcBuilder
@ShadarThePcBuilder 6 ай бұрын
Good for you 😊
@dane4890
@dane4890 4 ай бұрын
Great card
@dane4890
@dane4890 4 ай бұрын
With newer driver updates you will kick some butt with that card, so remember to always update your graphics driver
@TheBentouch
@TheBentouch 4 ай бұрын
If you dont care about RT, trust me you'll be happy.
@user-lz8gf7dg9z
@user-lz8gf7dg9z 4 ай бұрын
its great card i have one
@YukiThor
@YukiThor 6 ай бұрын
i got recommended your video by the algorithm and I'm like FINALLY another tech channel that ISN'T some random AI talking and boy, there's actually very interesting and useful perspectives here that many people out there should be listening to You deserve more subs, I hope my sub helps you to eventually reach that goal
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 6 ай бұрын
video was great until he mentioned we need AI for good performance. He's an ex developer and has already jumped on the "we need ai for good performance" bandwagon. Lazy developer just like the rest of them. We NEVER needed AI, why now? Because Nvidia has brain washed everyone into thinking AI is required. Nvidia has made billions thanks to guys like this
@papamudashowtime
@papamudashowtime 5 ай бұрын
i like this kind of review, straight to the points and more towards reasoning
@terdog3463
@terdog3463 6 ай бұрын
Right now, as much I would love to upgrade to a 7800xt. I'm sticking with my 6750xt. It does everything I need it to do. I only play games at 1080p, and since I'm in Canada, prices for me are a bit more. So have to set my budget to a bit higher cost, or well. wait for sales.
@Waifu_Warrior
@Waifu_Warrior 6 ай бұрын
6750 is completely fine for 1080P. Adding funds to a cookie jar for a 1440 or even 4K monitor would make more sense. A 4K monitor can still play at 1080P until you get a better GPU. A 1080P monitor can super size to 4K but it's going to look like muddy water. In addition, moving from 1080P to 1440 or 4K is a one way journey. So if you are happy at 1080, embrace it. I was happy at 1080 as well. I game at 4K on a 7900XTX and there is no way I can return to 1080P. I kick myself every so often because of it.
@jamesg8246
@jamesg8246 6 ай бұрын
Also on 6750xt with 7800x3d platform, and right now everything I've played runs at high/ultra details at 1440p just fine. Would be nice to get a cooler running more efficient card though at the same performance level.
@30jspecial
@30jspecial 5 ай бұрын
I have a 4k 60Hz freesync 40 to 60 monitor and 6700 xt nitro plus. Starfield, witches 3 next gen, hit man 3 , American truckers, strays , All maxed out with fsr on .no rt all are very playable. But I bought the 7800 xt then canceled because it isn't much better than 6800xt.
@billpii6314
@billpii6314 3 ай бұрын
Thats the thing these days. GPUs have gotten so fast you really need to look at what you really need and what res of your monitor/s are.
@tinyfossil
@tinyfossil Ай бұрын
only upgrade if you geta 1440p 144/200+ hz monitor sir :)
@davidkim6469
@davidkim6469 6 ай бұрын
when are they releasing super duper xtx battle arc gpu's?
@justsome6851
@justsome6851 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video man, after all the mini research and watching videos I've done, now I'm decided, I have to go for the 4070 super after matching it with what i really need and been doing digitally. after all in my country its priced the same...lol
@jd4165
@jd4165 5 ай бұрын
Great breakdown!
@skipguenter3711
@skipguenter3711 6 ай бұрын
Which of these 3 would be best for BOINC number crunching? Looking to replace a RTX 3070 in a Linux Mint box.
@sobo5476
@sobo5476 6 ай бұрын
I liked this review, most other reviews just rely heavily on throwing out the spec numbers of the card which means nothing to most people. I have been flip-flopping about what card to buy, I currently have a 1660 that handles just about everything I throw at it, but I'm looking more to the future. As I get older and worse at online games I am starting to look at single-player games, so the 4070 Super seems to be a better for for me. I'm not rich, but I feel throwing the £599 at a 4070 Super will see me good for many years as it has the AI and the rest. I feel this is the way it's going, so best to jump on the bandwagon now as opposed to having to buy again down the line.
@chadfellers9128
@chadfellers9128 6 ай бұрын
Amd is about to to take FMF out of beta on Jan 24th, as som one who has tried the beta driver it makes quite a difference. May have to retest this soon
@johnbowser2612
@johnbowser2612 5 ай бұрын
and what do you think about NVIdia's power connector redesign? It's hot isn't it?
@hydrus5252
@hydrus5252 6 ай бұрын
it all depends also on your country... cause those prices do apply to america but not to europe for example where a 4070 ( non super ) is at base price 630 euro for a 2 fan model and if u want a 3 fan model then it is over 700+ euro. Instead the 7800xt is closer to her real price and it is 530 for 2 fan and 540-550 for 3 fan model. The 4070 super is starting at 670 euro in here and not the 599$ dollars for sure so the gap get even bigger cause for 670 euro u will have reference card and so for 3 fan probably gonna cost 750/800 euro and at that point u can buy 7900xt.
@gosubreboot713
@gosubreboot713 6 ай бұрын
This guy is talking trash, the 4070 and 7800XT are the same price
@mihaelkatava5672
@mihaelkatava5672 6 ай бұрын
This guy is actually telling truth as at least where I live prices he said are accurate and Nvidia card in my country are overpriced.Nvidia is good but for value i go Amd any day.
@croixfrozy1885
@croixfrozy1885 4 ай бұрын
This guy is telling the truth x2
@yakimchuk
@yakimchuk 6 ай бұрын
video was very useful for making conclusion and overall consideration.
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lorensmith1000
@lorensmith1000 6 ай бұрын
This video was great! I just managed to get the FE 4070 Super this morning and I couldn't be happier. Loved your breakdown of what you should personally look for in a GPU. You've earned yourself a sub sir.
@Obie327
@Obie327 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! I have no regrets with my purchase either. Finally some darn decent value to performance! Happy Gaming!
@danielmevs344
@danielmevs344 6 ай бұрын
I got a 3080 for $460 and I’m wondering if it’s worth selling and upgrading to a 4070 super. I have a small form factor build(NR200p Max) and I play 1440p 144hz
@ehenningsen
@ehenningsen 6 ай бұрын
I would wait for the 5000 series.
@jlee707
@jlee707 6 ай бұрын
I second waiting for 5k series. If you can't wait I would recommend spending a bit more on 4070ti super. It's an upgrade you will actually feel, and be able to use much longer at higher settings (16gb vram). I have a 4070 and current AAA games almost max out the 12gb vram on 1440p.
@libero4g93t
@libero4g93t 6 ай бұрын
I’m relatively new to computing.. what’s the benefits of the super over the 4070 ti?
@marcinkarpiuk7797
@marcinkarpiuk7797 6 ай бұрын
Price... But in year we will get new generation and all those cards will be obsolete..
@Econos_1
@Econos_1 6 ай бұрын
Yeah go for the super. There is about a 8% performance lead for the 4070 ti, but it costs 200$ more
@TheRomi18
@TheRomi18 6 ай бұрын
​@marcinkarpiuk7797 so should I get 4070 ti super now or wait for 50 series?
@Econos_1
@Econos_1 6 ай бұрын
@@TheRomi18 if you feel like you need an upgrade now, just get the upgrade. Waiting for 50 series might be a month or a 12 month wait. On top of that, the cards might not even be worth the money. My advice is to value your time over money. You can always make more money, but time that has past never comes back.
@hes_elbow522
@hes_elbow522 4 ай бұрын
I’m trying to plan a future upgrade, depending on how the 5000 cards do when they come out. I have a ryzen 5 5600x with a 12gb 3060 currently. I’m very hesitant to buy anything cause I got screwed with my current pc. Spent like 2.1k on it and then the prices tanked less than 6 months later. I don’t want to buy a 4070s yet because I feel like enough outrage was made to get good cards on the next release.
@bhanupspal
@bhanupspal 3 ай бұрын
Wait for 1 more year
@PashaSlavaUkraine
@PashaSlavaUkraine 6 ай бұрын
Which cpu do I match to rtx 4070 super? And which cooler best for it? And will it be good with ddr4 32g ram ? Ty
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
13700 or 7800x3d. You can use the H150i from Corsair, the DeepCool LS720 or the Galahad 360. DDR4 is good but I would go DDR5 at this point
@DeltaYT99
@DeltaYT99 3 ай бұрын
Great video^^ With the RX7800xt closely matching the RTX 4070 and sometimes pulling to the Super and occasionally ahead Id say the RX 7800xt is a better choice overall though it will depend on the games. However with it having 16gb of vram, and being the cheapest of the 3 found the ASrock, Asus and gigabyte at 499 as the time of this comment. Having more vram and matching and beating the $540 dollar 4070 and the $600 RTX 4070 super and both of those have 12gb of vram.
@VladCristian
@VladCristian Ай бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking too. But you have to keep in mind that Nvidia si way better for content creation (esp video editing) due to its Cuda cores and also DLSS destroys FSR, so it might be worth to spend that extra cash.
@kingrises1499
@kingrises1499 4 ай бұрын
Will 4070 super be good choice with 5800x3d as am am4
@templaruddin
@templaruddin 2 ай бұрын
Im leaning to Rx7800xt and really considering it for my next upgrade. But i realized that i used nvidia broadcast alot for my discord chats. Is there any alternative if i went Amd route?
@Stonkybruhv
@Stonkybruhv Ай бұрын
Amd has its own built-in amd noise suppression within their drivers for your mic similar to nvidia broadcast
@larssonk22
@larssonk22 3 ай бұрын
this guy gets it, I've been trying to pick a GPU for the past 72hrs
@eduardotorres4769
@eduardotorres4769 6 ай бұрын
Question I was going to snag the 4070 then I noticed the 4070 super and now later the 4070ti super ....should I wait or snag now my cpu to pair with it would be ryzen 7 7800x3d I play warzone and fortnite I moved to pc for the frames and the visuals I'm new to pc plz help thanks in advance
@jannnic112
@jannnic112 6 ай бұрын
Go down in cpu and get a 4080 super
@eduardotorres4769
@eduardotorres4769 6 ай бұрын
@@jannnic112 naw not cop'n a gpu That's 1k build budget is 2k under
@netnomad47
@netnomad47 3 ай бұрын
​@@eduardotorres47694070 Super is the perfect balance of price to performance and size. I would say go for the Super
@vincent6210
@vincent6210 5 ай бұрын
is 16gb vram on 7800xt more preferbale since most aaa titles do use 12gb or more vram? that's my only concern on 4070 stuttering compared to 7800xt
@Sp3cialk304
@Sp3cialk304 4 ай бұрын
At 1440p they certainly don't. I have a Rx 6800 and a RTX 4070 Super. Every single UE5 game uses less than 9gb even at 4k. The difference between the 4060 ti 8gb and 16gb is the same at 1440p as it is as 1440p. (Dead even). There is a small difference between them at 4k (1-2 percent on average). 3 games came out that used modern assets but didn't require an SSD and didn't use asset streaming. Everything since has just required SSD and stream assets on the fly. The 6800 that I have actually starts struggling well before it gets to 12gb of vram used. Games no longer load large areas all at once and use stuff like elevators, long ladders, narrow pathways to load new areas. Because they can adjust detail and poly count in real time. Also if you look at say a 3080 compared to a 6800xt/7800xt the 3080 will lose at 1080p but as increase resolution/demand the lead shrinks and by the time you get to 4k the 3080 is beating them on average. Because while they have more vram, the 3080 has more memory bandwidth. Please read Techpowerups conclusion on the Avatar Frontiers of Pandora review. They have a section addressing vram allocation vs usage. This whole vram hysteria started because the 3070 started struggling at 1440p and people said it was because of vram. But the 6700xt/6750xt is also struggling in new releases at 1440p. Not because of vram but because of the performance of those cards. The 6800 can't run max settings at 1440p in most UE5 games and a few other new releases. Performance becomes an issue well before vram does. You can look at Techpowerups or Techspots (hardware unboxed) latest GPU reviews (7900 gre reviews are newest at time of posting). Not to mention Hardware Unboxed tested DLSS vs Native at 4k and 1440p in image quality. They had DLSS Quality winning more than it lost. And that was a year ago with an older version of DLSS. While fsr image quality hasn't improved since 2.2. DLSS image quality improves every update. The version in Alan Wake 2 is better than the version in Phantom Liberty. Luckily it's easy to update what version a game uses. Just replace a dll file. DLSS is the main reason I got the 4070 Super. Not for the performance. But because every new game uses TAA or FXAA and they do more damage to image quality than DLSS. Machine Trained AI hardware accelerated Temporal Reconstruction is simply better than basic temporal reconstruction using a basic filter.
@vincent6210
@vincent6210 4 ай бұрын
@@Sp3cialk304 Thanks so much for this clarification, I think I'll go with 4070 super instead of amd gpu since I want to prio image quality on my oled for better immersion. I think it would be solid for five more years until it's time to upgrade.
@Sp3cialk304
@Sp3cialk304 4 ай бұрын
@@vincent6210 good choice. You'll get the better image quality, better real world performance. DLSS quality 1440p gets better than or equal to native image quality and better than 1080p performance. And being able to get right at 60fps in Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty with Path Tracing, max settings 1440p DLSS quality with ray reconstruction is nice. And you could double that frame rate if you use frame gen, but I just stick with 60fps. Last years 3 best looking games where all nice show cases for RT. Alan Wake 2, Phantom Liberty and Avatar.
@vincent6210
@vincent6210 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I am going from a 1050ti lol which surprisingly still delivers 4k60hz8bit on 4k monitor Which cpu have you got paired with yours? ​@@Sp3cialk304
@SimChaserRoseRacer
@SimChaserRoseRacer 28 күн бұрын
So if the 4070 super is 4 gigabytes less of vram then the 7800 XT but doesn't perform Ray tracing as well in DSL is way better than fsr is that 4 gigabytes of vram really doing anything? Think of it as a car if I had a bigger motor than a competitor's car but it put out less power is it a better engine the obvious answer is no it basically boils down to money if money is a factor go with the 7800 XT if money is not a factor for you go with the 4070 super you won't be disappointed
@iGPyro14
@iGPyro14 6 ай бұрын
Just got an Amd Ryzen 7700x with a Nvidia RTX 4070. So far, it works great!
@d.ink3d
@d.ink3d 6 ай бұрын
Got 7800xt Asus TUF and its amazing, driver based framegen works so good now so thats a feature that should be talked about, maxing out my 165hz screen in basically every game with FMF also i play in UWQHD so the 12gb ram of the 4070/s aint enough in every game, specially not in the future.
@yakimchuk
@yakimchuk 6 ай бұрын
hi! what about coil whistle?
@davidclarke7385
@davidclarke7385 6 ай бұрын
I had an Asus TUF 7800XT for a couple of weeks recently, as I thought it would be a good upgrade. When it worked it was great, but randomly from cold boot I would get a Code 43 error in Windows 11 and the card was not recognised. Tried everything, DDU wipe of previous drivers and reinstalls, uninstalled and reinstalled chipset drivers, updated motherboard bios, changed motherboard PCIE settings to Gen 4 rather than auto, checked power connections, installed driver only and not Adrenaline software, switched GPU bioses - nothing worked - every couple of days - card not recognised. RMA'd it. I was willing to give AMD a chance, but my experiences have inclined me to stick with team green from now on. It also had more coil whine than my old 3070, though it was fortunately more of a 'coil hum' rather than whine.
@shenal2919
@shenal2919 4 ай бұрын
Should I buy Rtx 4070 super or the rx7800
@ThePalePatriot
@ThePalePatriot 6 ай бұрын
On a 2070 Super, only care about 1440 gaming, and only on games 2019 and prior, want a 4070 Super, but gut says no way do I need one, what do you think?
@coreymach_
@coreymach_ 6 ай бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I'm thinking "I already had it for 4+ years, what's a little bit more and wait for the 5000 series?" That's where I'm at.
@ThePalePatriot
@ThePalePatriot 6 ай бұрын
@@coreymach_ Made the decision 1 hour ago, I am waiting and letting things shake out this year
@Carlos-wl5fn
@Carlos-wl5fn 6 ай бұрын
2060 super and a big backlog, everything 2022 and back plays great at 1080p144 or 1440p75Hz with dlss
@InJJWeTrust0121
@InJJWeTrust0121 6 ай бұрын
You missed the biggest mystery of them all... is Ti "tie" or "T.I." .. 😂 Awesome content though! Very informational and the exact comparison that most of us are probably looking for!
@Ty__Rants
@Ty__Rants 6 ай бұрын
Thinking of finally upgrading from my 2070 super to the 4080 super. Want to be able to finally experience Ray Tracing while also keeping my graphic settings pretty high. Sound worth it?
@theleonardo5497
@theleonardo5497 6 ай бұрын
Am in the same situation but can’t decide between 2070tis 2080s or 7900xtx
@darkuskata
@darkuskata 6 ай бұрын
if its just gaming, then go for the 7900xtx@@theleonardo5497
@Sensei_SeRn
@Sensei_SeRn 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, 4080 super is coming out here real soon. I'm still kind of debating on if I should get it, or hear wait till I get closer to gta6 release to see if they have more to date then.
@BuzzzdLightyear
@BuzzzdLightyear 3 ай бұрын
I wish it wasn’t the case, but I’ve been having so many issues with my 7800XT that I actually ordered a 4070 Super to replace it. Black screen crashes, sleep crashes, freezing in the middle of games, crashing discord.. just all kinds of shit. I’ve reinstalled OS and drivers so many times and I’m just over it.
@callmemrdee
@callmemrdee 19 күн бұрын
I have 7800xt. No problems at all. Sorry to hear about your experience
@Froanite
@Froanite 6 ай бұрын
solid option :D look at your data again
@mako2350
@mako2350 6 ай бұрын
With Prices on Nvidia GPU's I am looking at AMD/ATI for my future card...
@WorthlessDeadEnd
@WorthlessDeadEnd 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Should we just wait for the 50 series to be announced?
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
If your system is fine that’s a totally viable option. Should be early next year.
@WorthlessDeadEnd
@WorthlessDeadEnd 6 ай бұрын
@@RobeytechLive I've been enjoying my 1080 Ti for the past six years now, and it's still going strong. Hopefully, it should be able to hold out for one more year, at least.
@inspector__x
@inspector__x 5 ай бұрын
@@RobeytechLive i my man in my country i Can buy new 4070 for 485 and 470 super for 565 what you thing o play most games like warzone , cs2 , valorant, destiny 2 and so With dlss active like you say the performance is like 9/10% i think for the price go for 4070 ??? Or pay extra 80€ and go for 4070 super ?? I have 700w psu !
@sergiu6650
@sergiu6650 6 ай бұрын
I got the powercolor rx 7800xt, i have never been so happy, from rtx 2070 to rx 7800xt
@austinward1439
@austinward1439 Ай бұрын
I got the same, amazing card.
@RagingGrinch-TechGaming
@RagingGrinch-TechGaming 3 ай бұрын
I’m building my first PC for strictly gaming. I couldn’t find a 4090 FE or 4080 super FE so I settled for a 4070 super FE, I just hop it can do good 4k 60 and 1440p 120 locked.
@zevianbrowne9519
@zevianbrowne9519 6 ай бұрын
thanks hun
@TheEasyk
@TheEasyk 6 ай бұрын
Hi, thank you for your video but I'm still uncertain about one thing ... Is 12 GB GDDR6X VRAM on 4070 SUPER be enough? in lets say 5 years? VRAM is the biggest difference for me between 4070super and 7800XT since im building PC that I want to last and stay somehow relevant for 7-8 years, thank you for your time
@Econos_1
@Econos_1 6 ай бұрын
In 2-3 years the 12gb of vram is going to start suffering. I’ve bought a 4070 super knowing that the vram is going to screw me eventually, but I’m hoping and I know that Nvidia’s AI tech is only going to get better. You might have to start turning textures to high or medium in a few years, but I just prefer the benefits and versatility of Nvidia cards. An afterthought as well: you can’t ever fully future proof your build. I built a AM4 system with a 5800x processor and a 3070 which has served me well, but is forcing me to build a new AM5 system if I need to upgrade my cpu. I would just buy whatever suits your needs right now, because if you always want the best performance you are going to have to upgrade your gpu every 2-3 years
@timurkadesolator
@timurkadesolator 6 ай бұрын
guys i bought ryzen 5 7500f 32ram 6000 and rtx 4070 its that good or wha"?
@aesthetics_G
@aesthetics_G 6 ай бұрын
are u joking
@timurkadesolator
@timurkadesolator 6 ай бұрын
@@aesthetics_G nope
@211tfahey
@211tfahey 6 ай бұрын
No one talks about whats needed for modded Skyrim VR!
@malvinchau2056
@malvinchau2056 6 ай бұрын
4070S will do you better, you'll have better visual fidelity with NVENC compared to AMD's dated AV1 encoding.
@sinanakar5170
@sinanakar5170 6 ай бұрын
I have a new gaming pc 7800xt 7600x amd and im very happy whit it can run highest settings whitout any problem and good fps
@g1zmo85
@g1zmo85 6 ай бұрын
Which one would pair better with a 5800X3D?
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity 5 ай бұрын
they'll all work just fine with the 5800x3d
@Dtrain011
@Dtrain011 6 ай бұрын
I just returned my red devil 7800xt and had to decide between another 7800xt or the 4070 super and this made my choice pretty clear
@ernestomolina5736
@ernestomolina5736 6 ай бұрын
Why return the red devil? Was debating on picking one up soon
@Dtrain011
@Dtrain011 6 ай бұрын
@@ernestomolina5736 it did well for gaming but not so good for streaming,editing and animation and I had a massive issue with temps. 10 minutes into ark and gpu temps shot up to 100c with the fans on full blast
@seiji_senpai
@seiji_senpai 5 ай бұрын
the intro was "super" true, thats what im questioning in my head too
@rahatahmed1422
@rahatahmed1422 Ай бұрын
Which gpu should i take 7800xt or 4070 if both have the same price?
@pilotoreplicante
@pilotoreplicante 27 күн бұрын
7800xt, if you can't buy the 4070 super and you dont care about RT and so on, just go for the 7800xt. I just bought the 4070 super, but because i want RT, DLSS, frame gen and want to try cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing at 1440p with dlss on and frame gen on. But if that specific is not something you want, just take your money and put it into 7800xt that also has 16GB of VRAM that will help you in the future.
@anhiirr
@anhiirr 6 ай бұрын
i mean if you have a system that can cool adequately enough and a big enough PSU a 6950xt for 550$ seems like the way to go for 1440p-4k outside of dlss or dlss frame gen scenarios. or pure raytracing/pve experiences. Otherwise the 4070S seems to win if you will play a range of PVE titles that support dlss/dlss3. Plus youre seeing a 200-220w max TDP vs a 300W+ card. Which totals out to PSU budget and PSU/qualikty/system thermals.
@AngladaFrankFrankyvape
@AngladaFrankFrankyvape 6 ай бұрын
2024 just started, Super versions of 40xx series not even all released yet I think it is vbery early to give a definitive advice on what GPU to buy in 2024.
@vi_EviL_iv
@vi_EviL_iv 6 ай бұрын
4080 founder since I already got it and even if I didn't, I would still get the 4080. The extra small bump in performance is not worth the extra money, especially the "brand new release price" I still want the 4090 but we all know they keep it oit of stock
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
Yeah 4090 stock woes kind suck....
@arokh72
@arokh72 6 ай бұрын
Cries in Australian, with a $200+ AUD price difference between the 4070/7800XT and 4070S.
@litebkt
@litebkt 6 ай бұрын
I liked the video except for one thing. You need to yell louder to come out over the music. OR, you could tone down the music😀 Thanks for the great advice.
@inspector__x
@inspector__x 5 ай бұрын
Amazing review in my country 4070 is 480€ and 4070 super is 565€ you think is better pay this extra money ! Or go With 4070 ?
@forcezero2220
@forcezero2220 6 ай бұрын
Is 12g vram in this card enough for 6 years?
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
Yes I believe so. You may have games that struggle at the beginning because of poor optimization but yes 12 will be enough.
@forcezero2220
@forcezero2220 6 ай бұрын
@@RobeytechLive i see thanks
@ThePalePatriot
@ThePalePatriot 6 ай бұрын
@@RobeytechLive Vram is getting SO overrated my goodness! For 1440 gamers at least, 12 GB will rock for 4-5 years easily.
@forcezero2220
@forcezero2220 6 ай бұрын
@@ThePalePatriot i see
@CrazO9111
@CrazO9111 6 ай бұрын
Full hd / Wqhd for 2-3 years. For now 11GB is already used in wqhd Avatar, hogwarts..
@ze3bar
@ze3bar 6 ай бұрын
What do you think of the xfx 7900 xtx at 1400 cad
@clockworklegionaire2135
@clockworklegionaire2135 6 ай бұрын
If you don't really care about better upscaling and RT performance then the 7900 XTX could save you some money over the 4080 Super
@ze3bar
@ze3bar 6 ай бұрын
@@clockworklegionaire2135 I just bought one I'm waiting for it to arrive in the mail if was wondering if maybe I should have waited for the price to come down or something
@clockworklegionaire2135
@clockworklegionaire2135 6 ай бұрын
@@ze3bar Probably should have waited a couple weeks
@ze3bar
@ze3bar 6 ай бұрын
@@clockworklegionaire2135 ur probably right but I wanna sell my 3070 Ti while it's still worth something
@christophercarroll
@christophercarroll 6 ай бұрын
Waiting impatiently for the 4070 ti super
@ronakbarman3580
@ronakbarman3580 6 ай бұрын
Which one to choose if 7800xt and 4070 at same price, and 4070 super at same price as 4070 ti
@scoobydoom6
@scoobydoom6 6 ай бұрын
4070 And 7800 XT at our region cost same. 4070 S Is about 100€ up. So which one? :)
@Kleber_03
@Kleber_03 6 ай бұрын
In my region 4070 S and 4070 ti cost same but i don’t know if i should buy it because of the vram issue, i am considering rx 7800 xt for that reason & it cost 100$ cheaper.
@scyzorpl
@scyzorpl Ай бұрын
1 k liked from me =) i'm on 3060 ti on Ryzen 7 5800x and thinking about 2 gpu's ASUS 4070 and XFX 7800xt its almost same price right now and only reason i'm thinking about them cuz i can get the cards on monthly payments from amazon
@billpii6314
@billpii6314 3 ай бұрын
Look into the camera :)
@alkine3011
@alkine3011 6 ай бұрын
Waiting on the 4080 super I already have the 4070 and 6950XT ... Don't need 3 so I'll be sellin the 4070 but these AMD and Nvidia fan boys are crazy im glad I can enjoy both brands without all the bs of being on "one side"
@anhiirr
@anhiirr 6 ай бұрын
6950xt sure is good esp for when it launched to this day. but the wattage and ability to have near a 3080ti in 1440p for 200w at 600$ is pretty good IMO. Compared to needing a higher psu/system thermals for the 6950xt's potential. Anything higher and i see them as more aimed at 4k gaming or 21:9/multimonitor.
@Econos_1
@Econos_1 6 ай бұрын
Just curious, did you have any sorts of limitations with the 6950xt? I was considering it but was worried that there wouldn’t be very developed video editing tech and AI/Rtx tech. I am one the weird people who likes and uses RTX when I can, but the 3070 wasn’t cutting it anymore so I bought a 4070 super
@alkine3011
@alkine3011 6 ай бұрын
@Econos_1 No the 6950 XT is a very good GPU I actually have it undervolted to about 245 Watts right now and it still performs very well in anything I use it for... The 4070 Super is a great card it just about matched the 6950 xt in Rast and is better in RT and work load programs. AMD having AFMF now which gives insane frame boost will keep the 6950 XT a very good card for many many years tho.
@bernielee0088
@bernielee0088 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't the 6900xt outperform the 7800xt? They're both around $500
@crelex0011
@crelex0011 5 ай бұрын
Im heavily considering the 4070 super but im a little worried about the 12gb vram, you think 12 vram will be good for a near Future?
@thanhlocphan4450
@thanhlocphan4450 5 ай бұрын
almost the AAA games these days hit around 12gb vram, so in the future they might consume more vram, go with 4080 super if you're green team, or 7800xt, 7900xtx for red team.
@crelex0011
@crelex0011 5 ай бұрын
@@thanhlocphan4450 the thing is the 4070 super is the most expensive card i can afford, those 12vram is the only bad thing i can see about that graphic card, but it is that bad tho?
@jesseslack2089
@jesseslack2089 2 ай бұрын
Every time I watch one of these videos my GTX 1080Ti just gives me dirty looks....
@supacat4112
@supacat4112 19 күн бұрын
Funny dude 😊😊
@dane4890
@dane4890 4 ай бұрын
I Use the RX 6800XT Red Devil edition. Its fantastic and can actually use the 16gb wich many smaller cards can't. So i think i will keep this for 2 more years. Perfect for 3440x1440p
@huracanschiz
@huracanschiz 6 ай бұрын
Idk why I’m so excited
@nicane-9966
@nicane-9966 6 ай бұрын
12gb for a 600dls product sounds like a bad purchase. Already games pushing 10, 11gb even consoles have 16gb (its an APU) but still you can expect less optimized games in the future than we already have. It should have been a 16gb card like the rest of the series with a 256 bus.
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
Consoles have shared system RAM and most games use less than 8GB of that ram for Video purposes. Understand if PC developers targeted GPUs with greater than 10GB of VRAM it would be selling to less than 2% of the PC market. At Ultra settings (usually the most unoptimized) you see flagrant use of VRAM, but on standard settings meant for recommends you are seeing between 6 and 8GB. Take Cyberpunk 2077 one of the most graphic intensive games at 1440p on Ultra you are using 8GB of VRAM. Again don't mix poor opimization of PC games with what you need. Game developers will fix it with patches but 12GB will be more than enough for 5 to 6 years given how long it takes the masses to jump in average VRAM.
@green4envy660
@green4envy660 5 ай бұрын
nvidia is winning cause of its software wouldnt that be solved in future software updates? while amd has greater hardware in have more vram? so wouldnt that mean amd is more future proof? can someone enlighten me please im soo confused.
@TheWeezyfly
@TheWeezyfly 5 ай бұрын
Honestly just want a really good Gpu for 1440p gaming on my 240hz monitor with above 100 fps at a time
@kewtd72
@kewtd72 6 ай бұрын
do not buy any until all are released and its been over a couple months to see if these cards are as stable as they claim!!
@emeraldphoenix6331
@emeraldphoenix6331 6 ай бұрын
Lol people getting mad about DATA. Like.. these aren’t opinions. AMD and Nvidia both have great cards.
@SparksHardcoreMusic
@SparksHardcoreMusic 12 күн бұрын
Damn didn't know Rutledge Wood became a tech youtuber. Lol kidding but man, legit similar look and even voice.
@devvonbell939
@devvonbell939 6 ай бұрын
Just snagged a 7800xt on auction for $380 and it works amazing with a 1440 240hz monitor. Upgraded from a 2080S
@user-kv3hh8jv4j
@user-kv3hh8jv4j 5 ай бұрын
thats awesome! when you run at 1440p do you usually have to turn down the graphics quality to medium to low to hit the 240 fps?
@devvonbell939
@devvonbell939 5 ай бұрын
@user-kv3hh8jv4j it depends on the games. I usually play overwatch 2 at max settings and locked at 240Hz. Diablo 2 it's locked in at 240z. Souls like games usually locked in at 60fps. RE4 remake it won't hit 240. I bought it for 240fps to match the 240hz monitor. 7800xt does great for what I play. If you play higher demanding games. I'd look into higher gpu obviously but for the price I got it for I couldn't pass it up.
@CMoDZ3D
@CMoDZ3D Ай бұрын
Ordered 7800XT today i only care for 60fps 1440p. Excited.
@shivansh88887
@shivansh88887 6 ай бұрын
In india the price of 7800xt is like 650$ for 4070 its the same and 4070 super starts at 780$ and dont ask me about 4070ti.
@sunish.g3374
@sunish.g3374 4 ай бұрын
What did u choose?
@streamdungeon5166
@streamdungeon5166 6 ай бұрын
I own an RTX 3070 and even the super lineup provides no significant upgrade path to me. I want an upgrade of +100% performance and since my 8GB VRAM is bad I also want at least +100% VRAM. That means RTX 3080 Super which will be 1000+ and unacceptable to me. The step from 30 to 40 series and even 40 super series was pitiful at the prices they are asking.
@bubbabfp1
@bubbabfp1 6 ай бұрын
Upgrading from 2700x to 5800X3D and RTX 2070 to RTX4070 Super FE. We'll see how it goes. Hehe
@torukmahtomahto409
@torukmahtomahto409 6 ай бұрын
quite the same but from 2600...2070 still rock on 5800x3d
@Shannon-ul5re
@Shannon-ul5re 6 ай бұрын
The gpu to get is the 4070ti super, the memory bus and vram both got a good bump up and will give you a great 3 to 5 year run at 1440p with all games.
@chiromedic1127
@chiromedic1127 6 ай бұрын
I would agree. If you have that 700-900$ budget. Anyone at the 500-600$ budget this videos is great.
@Obie327
@Obie327 6 ай бұрын
I'm really starting to believe the RTX 4070 Super is the best all around people's performer. (Basically like the legends before like the GTX 970/1060/1650's of yesteryear) Imagine a GPU that is only 9 percent slower than the 4070ti for 4070 non super release money. I'm actually really enjoying my 4070 Super I picked up. Thanks Robeytech for the excellently detailed video!
@johnnyjets2343
@johnnyjets2343 4 ай бұрын
How long do you expect that card to be good for? Think it could last a few years before needing to upgrade?
@Obie327
@Obie327 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnyjets2343The tech industry always wants us to buy the more expensive stuff or up sell to the bigger models. I personally still use a GTX 1060 6 gig in one of my rigs. Why not? If you keep within reasonable resolutions and temper your expectations 7 years later. Of course it can last. The RTX 4070 Super is a powerful and state of the art GPU. I bought mine personally for 1440p but can also run at 4k as well. Nothing is ever totally future prof but should work nicely for a long time. $599 is a lot easier to handle as well, And it sips power compared to AMD's RX 7900 or higher end Nvidia stuff. Good luck on your purchase and happy gaming!
@Obie327
@Obie327 4 ай бұрын
@@johnnyjets2343Yes it will. A modern high performance state of the art GPU. Good luck on your future purchase.
@cameron2467
@cameron2467 6 ай бұрын
I'm technologically dumb. I wanna get into streaming/recording, that's all I know. Mainly wanna stream simulations, racing games, maybe gta.
@rohitandley
@rohitandley 5 ай бұрын
You guys needs to add more chart/graph time and not broll.
@grandlaketilena9603
@grandlaketilena9603 6 ай бұрын
I own both an nvidia 4070ti and an rx7800xt asrock steel legend. I experienced nothing but problems with the radeon gpu. It started as random crashes every game i played. I updated bios on mobo and it took care of most of the problems except for the random crash once a week. unfortunately, this happens right in the middle of Fortnite Battle Royale when i am kicking ass and about to win. I cannot have this happen as my teammate (8 yo son) becomes agitated having to play on his own. I have never had my rtx gpus crash. I want to be on Team Red. I love the whole underdog thing but i just cant have these crashes happen. I am going to return the rx 7800 xt because i purchased during holiday season and was able to try to get it figured out with the extended returns from Newegg for a couple of months and its still happening. I have spent days trying to figure this out and i am not happy about it
@aquosy7
@aquosy7 6 ай бұрын
7900XT AT NEWEGG NOW FOR 709
@larsreintjes4173
@larsreintjes4173 6 ай бұрын
great deal
@aquosy7
@aquosy7 6 ай бұрын
Yes, awesome deal because a few hours ago the same car was 759 at the same store
@sensfreak09
@sensfreak09 6 ай бұрын
for me who really don't care for ray tracing i choose AMD, I had no issue with Cyberpunk and Alan wake, For me AMD all the way, amazing review!
@kangerer8886
@kangerer8886 5 ай бұрын
I’ll go 7800xt because it’ll last longer than the 4070 and 4070 super as 16gbs vram will make it have a longer life span
@Skafiskafnjak2709
@Skafiskafnjak2709 5 ай бұрын
Why u guys wory about 12gb of Vram ???Just buy rtx 4070 ti super 16gb vram...
@itzsabbage3830
@itzsabbage3830 6 ай бұрын
I bought a 7900xtx last year so i think im good for a year or two
@mikejones2588
@mikejones2588 6 ай бұрын
I bought a 4090 super in a back alley.
@phantmx4432
@phantmx4432 6 ай бұрын
👀 it's an rtx 4090 super right... not a GTX 4090 super
@mikejones2588
@mikejones2588 6 ай бұрын
@@phantmx4432 Radeon 4090 super
@phantmx4432
@phantmx4432 6 ай бұрын
@@mikejones2588 💀🤌 even better
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 4 ай бұрын
Bought the 4070 last year. Worst $600 I have ever spent. Took the opportunity and picked up a 4080 super @MSRP. Blows the 4070 out of the water.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 6 ай бұрын
The 4080 Super for me bro. 😂
@marcinkarpiuk7797
@marcinkarpiuk7797 6 ай бұрын
And in year it will be worth 5070 at best at almost half price... Buying refresh card beyond half life of generation is really bad choice, better gatcher more money and buy 5090 at launch(Q4 24 if all goes good and fans buy all those crappy refresh cards...)
@huracanschiz
@huracanschiz 6 ай бұрын
Fam buy what you want and enjoy it.When 50 series drop buy that too if you want and enjoy it. Good luck on your card fam
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 6 ай бұрын
@@marcinkarpiuk7797 why buy a 5090 and in a year the 6090 will be out so same thing bro. no reason to wait for tech.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 6 ай бұрын
@@huracanschiz exactly bro. i buy every Gen i dont worry about money.
@huracanschiz
@huracanschiz 6 ай бұрын
@@JayzBeerz Right if you got it why not spend it on things you want
@oz5150
@oz5150 6 ай бұрын
16gb alone is why id buy the 7800XT vs the 4070 Super. Nvidia needs to bring out 16gb cards at an affordable price. 12gb isn't going to cut it even for 1440p here in 2 years. And seeing as the regular consumer is upgrading every other generation (3 to 5 years). You are really losing out, Nvidia is praying you buy in on frame generation.. and will buy their card.. just to feel cheated when next year they have a cheaper card that blows out your 600 dollar card for the same price. If you do need to buy a new card at least look at the 7900XTX if they do drop it after the 4080 Super launches. If that card is 800 bucks then we won as consumers.
@UKKNGaming
@UKKNGaming 6 ай бұрын
7800XT for sure if not then the 7900XT it's on sale right now. Too many gimmicks from Nvidia SMH AFMF also comes out on the 26th so 7800XT is going to be faster than the 4070 Super by the end of this month lmfao
@clockworklegionaire2135
@clockworklegionaire2135 6 ай бұрын
Please stop talking
@UKKNGaming
@UKKNGaming 6 ай бұрын
@@clockworklegionaire2135 lmfao everything I said is true AFMF is doubling frames Nvidia is going to be behind again 🤡
@tqd2008
@tqd2008 5 ай бұрын
@@UKKNGamingyou’re right but afmf causes so much latency
@Inkslanger69
@Inkslanger69 5 ай бұрын
The music in the background is annoying giving me a headache
@HsHon-vx3li
@HsHon-vx3li 3 ай бұрын
In my country, the 7900 GRE is slightly cheaper than the 4070 Super😅
@Dodger_Dawg_
@Dodger_Dawg_ 6 ай бұрын
Team blurple!
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
lol
@Ralipsi
@Ralipsi 6 ай бұрын
The best bet is the RX 7900 XT
@synapse1771
@synapse1771 3 ай бұрын
I got the 4070 since it's the cheapest in my country :)
@knuke9596
@knuke9596 6 ай бұрын
I need an RX 89005090 XTX Super Duper Ti
@RobeytechLive
@RobeytechLive 6 ай бұрын
It's coming I am sure :)
@RAY_FILET
@RAY_FILET 3 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm just dying to play stuff at 1440p🙄...maybe if I had a 15in screen. Games have become work. I'm out lol
@dane4890
@dane4890 4 ай бұрын
7800XT is plenty to run epic graphics at 1440p
@ivoivic2448
@ivoivic2448 6 ай бұрын
from all the benchmarks so far 4070s is doa for anyone but the nvidia stan. rt is the only thing keeping it an option and when buying an entry level build rt is not exactly top priority.
@DSRf2
@DSRf2 4 ай бұрын
You missed the elephant in the room which is vram
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