Discovering even more about the Kessil A360 Tuna Blue | BRStv Investigates

[@victorcharlap4642]

I bought a pair of these a year ago. I love the simplicity of this light. When I was installing them on the tank, I read that they should be placed 5' above the water level. Thanks for verify the intensity for me. Basically, the color control is from our eyes and has nothing to do with the corals. That's very interesting. I am going to go now and adjust the lights and see what happens. Thanks you BRS for all of these amazing videos.

[@WCorbin182]

Wow now that's in-depth information. You are the king of reefing

[@PhilPesteyMarshall]

Can't wait for you guys to do a video on the a160's. running two of them on my 3ft ea-reef900s, taken some of the info onboard with the a360's to use on mine. You guys have made reef keeping so much more enjoyable and simpler for me!!!!! Thank you so so much!!!!

[@Coralust]

Thank you for this great video, I try to explain this to people but you really do an amazing job explaining par and multiple leds.

[@evolutionXXVII]

FYI I buy all my stuff at BRS to support these awesome videos. Keep up the good work!

[@Kenny_Edmonton]

This is an older video. But would kessil A360we tuna blues be a good light in 2023. Looking at some on marketplace that have about 3 years on them

[@fraggingkickswrasse9203]

You always have the best most informative videos. Thanks for all the effort you put into this.

[@OutDoorMillennial]

Wow thanks for this... First our lights have been 9 inches above water. Going to slowly lower to 6 inches over the next weeks no wonder we struggle with SPS. Second, Thanks for making me feel like i made a good choice purchasing 2 of these for our 125g tank ! Love the videos keep em coming !

[@frankcava8073]

Another outstandingly thorough tutorial,

[@ReefDork]

What do you think to 7 or 8 160s instead of 3 or 4 360s? For better spread, less shading.

[@ramihuus]

When you guys announced that you are making "thorough review of most used lights", i was waiting for some bullshit sponsored video. But man was i WRONG! This was 22min 55s of pure gold! I'v watched this twice in a row. And I doubt I still soaked only 10% of the information provided here. Mind blown!

[@raisethereef]

Not one of their videos has been a "sponsored BS" video. Not sure why this one would be different. BRS just provides facts and lets you choose

[@ramihuus]

Ryan Thompson I disagree. Some earlier videos for specific lights have been more or less bulletting videos showimg only features and some other bullcrap adverts on why you should get them. i.e. vervve's are way worse than the video lets us to believe...

[@raisethereef]

Which BRStv Investigates episode had the Vervve in it? I haven't seen a full blown test done on that light by BRS

[@ramihuus]

They havent had vervve on any of the investigate ideos. But there is one quite indepth video of vervve that came out around year ago. But as i said this was hugely positive video, and was not expecting as indepth analysis of the light as they provided.

[@victorcharlap4642]

They will only do videos on equipment they sell. With that said, what they sell are mostly good products. Unfortunately, they don't rate the equipment they don't sell which might be as good. That's what I would like to see done by these guys because they really know how and what to test for.

[@tranphan9013]

Thank you for the informative comparison. Your videos are a huge help in determining my gear list. Will be purchase via BRS.

[@davidmiller5832]

If you start adding modules at 1' or even at 1.5', would the 360ne be a better choice on a 12 or 18 inch wide tank?

[@oscaranchundia3641]

I'm glad that you guys made this video know that I'm the market for a light this made me decide on what fixture to get I like the way you guys do this videos series keep up the great work.

[@Magjick]

What is that solid mounting rail you use at the end of the video? I'm about to do 4 of these in sequence and it looks so much cleaner than an individual mount for each light.

[@BRStv]

It's just some aluminum U-channel from a big box hardware store that we painted black. Makes for a pretty nice DIY light mount!

[@Magjick]

@@BRStv thanks!

[@vascojardim6703]

Great review Ryan BUT.... you just missed one aspect of the kessils that has been nagging me, and that would be how much higher you could mount the NE version (narrow angle) in order to achieve the same levels of coverage and PAR distribution as a WE at 8 inches. The reason why this is important for me is that higher mounted fixtures provide easier access to the tank. And in my case, given I would want to hang them from the ceiling the higher they are the least intrusive they would be. Would really like to know this one. Keep up the good work!

[@vascojardim6703]

BulkReefSupplyCom of course. Love this series and the work (fun 😊) you guys go through is amazing to bring us truthful and helpful consumer info. Maybe you could publish the results in the R2R thread? I believe a lot of people would like to know how/if to use the N version in terms of mounting height in order to achieve proper light coverage and PAR similar to what you are getting here with the W.

[@Sonofgaladriel1]

I know this is an old video, but I was wondering what intensity were the lights set at during all these measurements? I've copied your design and have 4 of these over a 4 foot tank filled with SPS frags. Wondering what intensity is recommended?

[@BRStv]

If memory serves me correctly, intensity was set to 100%

[@curtisbridgen1493]

Very informative as always, thanks.

[@DanielVazquez]

Maybe a missed the information but are those measurements at 100% intensity? And does the measurement height refers to depth from water surface?

[@BRStv]

To keep things consistent from light to light, we test at 100% intensity. The height is from the surface of the water to the bottom of the light fixture.

[@trureef2319]

Did u say u give away the equipment u use. How does one get one or 2 of those a360 that U guys used. I have a metal halide and considering changing over. 54 gallon corner reef.

[@klowranc]

do SPS need that 200-400 par intensity for 9 hours a day? Or is that just the peak you should keep for only a couple hours? Thanks!

[@BRStv]

We've generally found that a 1 hour ramp up time, 8 hours of steady intensity, and then 1 hour of ramp down is a good baseline. Of course there is always more to be learned to optimize the lighting of our reef tanks 😉

[@karthikmahadevaiyer]

I have bought a tall tank with a footprint of 60 x 18 x 30. I am planning to set up a mixed reef triton based setup. I started getting my LEDs, I got one AI Hydra HD 52 from BRS, which I am not sure I should have since kessil and radion are having more reviews. But anyhow I am also considering to get the aquatic life t5ho byo hybrid. Do you have any advise on the lighting and placement for a successful/thriving tank ? Kindly recommend.

[@2019freddie]

love my 360!

[@davidburnside8370]

Excellent again BRS! This was some of the best information about the light I have found, specifically the mounting height which is something I have personally struggled with. Thank you for that. The only other thing I would have loved to see covered IS the Spectral Controller. It seemed you guys said it was a "set it and forget it" scenario, but I feel there is definitely space to improve with the controller, or possibly hurt yourself, but it is all depending on the schedule you set. The schedule time/intensity/color combo is the current struggle of most I think. Anyway, love the videos regardless, please keep it up!

[@karennation3580]

what the best light for shimmer, growth and color pop? Thinking radions, kessil or ai prime. have current so dont know much about these. Does kessil make a bigger led or s this all you need, just more of them?

[@BRStv]

All of them grow coral and produce an eye pleasing color pop for the most part. I've found that shimmer and specific coral fluorescence we want to target is more of a personal opinion and some lights differ in what they offer. I think it's worth heading to a few LFS or fellow reefer's tanks to get a first hand idea of what you personally like in shimmer. I will say that a large amount of the reefing community has dubbed the Kessil as having the best shimmer. :)

[@jjaquariums]

What's the best reef light you could possibly get for a 300 gallon

[@NationalReefing]

fascinating deep dive into a360we... I started off w/ 2 of their lights adding a 3rd which helped greatly with the shadowing effect as mention in your video. There's another alternative mounting option with the Mounting Arm which provides a more cleaner look than the goose-neck but none-the-less a very through video by BRStv. Thank you!!!

[@andrewkw666]

When you say mounting 6" above the water you mean from the bottom of the light right? I just checked mine and they're (3) 8" above my 5 foot mixed reef.

[@Meldium]

I have a question Ryan. You do these tests and get these results but I’ve noticed on flat still water. (No flow) would we have the same PAR readings with flow put into it? Thanks

[@erickmcclendon7588]

awesome review, will be buying a pair of these lights from BRS soon

[@raisethereef]

Fantastic video once again! It did confirm things a lot of us have known for a while now: you need more fixtures than recommended by the company.

[@raisethereef]

Yep. This isn't limited to Kessil when it comes to LEDs. All of them over rate the coverage area. I personally think that is because most people would spend double up front to get the proper coverage but once they are already have you for 4 fixture, what is 2 more?

[@ajthereefer]

Does anyone know what mounting option is presented at 12:58?

[@ryanbatcheller394]

it's just a 1" U shaped aluminum bar painted black with holes drilled in it. Nice clean look and simple.

[@sheldonjessup]

I always want more video! Great job!

[@winchesterpre64]

I was looking for a lights for my build. I like the plug and play, I always wondered how to set the spectrum correctly instead of a wild guess, this handles it for you I like that. being new to reefing I appreciate all the videos. I have a 75 gallon pieced together and I am slowly building a 100 gallon long 72x18x18. spoke to one of you guys yesterday ordering a Maxspec gyer 250 and he suggested Kessil for lighting, I think he was right.

[@oceantank4424]

but after 6 months of growth do u have to increase the light ??

[@ozzyheather9242]

How many of these would you put on a 6x2x2 foot tank? Thanks very much.

[@ozzyheather9242]

3 or 4 then for me. Do you feel they are better/same/worse than Ecotech Radion XR 15 or 30?

[@ozzyheather9242]

Thanks again.I was heading towards Kessils.

[@OCNcheffy]

A really popular light in our city is the Ocean Revive T247 LED fixture. If you could get a hold of this one as well, that would be awesome!

[@fadetoblack.-]

Chris Branconnier Ocean revive is more point source. I have two of them they don't blend the spectrum like kessil. But great on price and value. But not quite as good as the kessil but then again you're looking at $600 to $800 for four. As opposed to $1600 plus mounting bracket for the kessil!

[@LXXero]

they basically look like a variation on the chinese box lights from what i see.

[@greennixon00]

I think they only test product they sell

[@OCNcheffy]

Mhm they are indeed Chinese boxes, but the company Ocean Revive has really improved upon the standard black boxes. Comparing to something like a Mars Aqua, this blends so much better and grows pretty much everything. From our small city, the locals have only been able to get huge bubbles on their bubble tips with this light if that says anything. Not saying other lights can't do that, but this one is almost a guarantee.

[@LXXero]

have you heard of sb reef lights? they sell upgraded spectrum chinese box lights as well.

[@miked596]

With a 25" tall tank should I go with the wide angle or narrow angle lense?

[@BRStv]

We'd suggest the wide angle lens in your case. Usually, right around 30-36" tall is where we'd start considering the narrow angle lens.

[@miked596]

@@BRStv Awesome. Thank you!!

[@jellyfishedx]

Was the intensity set to max when you did your test? I watched the video and not sure if I missed it.

[@jellyfishedx]

@@BRStv Thank you. That gives me a reference point for par on my setup.

[@mikepevine3389]

Still up in the air about this light, would be a good choice for a mixed reef 50 gallon cube 24x24x20

[@BRStv]

You may struggle to get the intensity necessary for some SPS, but it would certainly work for an LPS/Softie tank that has a 24" x 24" footprint. Any SPS would have to be at the very top of your rock work.

[@bananahands82]

What color setting do you use for your office tank? It looks grea!

[@paulnunley6178]

Just subscribed love what you guys do! I got two kessil 160 tuna blues and the work great! Saving for ap700.

[@merxion]

So how long per day should my peak par be on? right now I ramp to max over the first 4 hours a day then 2 hours of 300 par then ramps down the second part of the day.

[@josephdurk7589]

Could you please tell us how you made the hanging mount at the 13 minute mark?

[@joekool001]

So those are a360w what about the a360 WE? You made this video recently and I want to know if you just did not say the (we) or you weren't using (we) lights

[@daryncavalier8127]

Would love to see these tests done with an LED strip light. Do linear hot spots develop, or is it more similar to the even PAR distribution we see with T5 lighting?

[@t.regnerus301]

Thanks for validating my 1ft per Kessil A360 for SPS.

[@panoum]

Hi! Great job guys! I am using Kessil A160WEs in my mixed reef tank. Should I expect about half of the PAR levels you have presented for 360WEs? Have you ever tested A160WE?

[@panoum]

I hope you also test Kessil A160WE at some point! :)

[@hamooche]

Is the light on at a 100% ? Not sure if you mentioned that

[@RLMUD]

I have a 265 gal. frontosa tank, and looking to bring out the blues on my mobas. How many lights do i need for a 7 foot tank 30 inches deep. 24 wide.

[@michaelkirby3897]

Do you guys sell the Kessel 160 ? if so how much are they with the tank mount ?

[@915Mang]

Great video, and yes Most Reefers want control of everything. 😬

[@kalesmith4]

Have you ever looked at using this light and the blue spectrum with a yellow filter for bio-lumenesent look.

[@codywinkeljohn2254]

Great review I can't wait to get one for my tank! Definitely would put it to some work

[@weewtwetetwetwe1559]

what light are u using on 13:27 ?

[@alexmenchaca4924]

I would assume its a kessil you genius.

[@LXXero]

i love my a360we and a160we's - i consider kessils the metal halide killer. any place you could use a MH - you could use a kessil and do the same thing with less heat. i think the only real flaw is if you only use a single one on a cube tank - you will get shadowing. I went with a pair of 160we's on my new tank (which is a rectangle not a cube) and that has worked out very nicely. there's still no definitive LED t5 killer but your video from a while back about the coralcare lights was interesting in regards to diffusers and I had a few interesting conversations regarding building your own diffuser a few weeks ago. I wonder how far off we truly are from a complete LED solution for replacing the type of light you'd get from a t5/mh setup. would definitely be interested in more research in regards to the mixing of the colors and how this effects corals - i've never been a fan of the RGB Disco effect on most of the fixtures with multiple separate diodes, they all look pretty horrible to me - even the radions and hydras. I honestly feel like if you're going to have multiple-diodes anyway - you may as well just go chinese box light at that point - in terms of how it actually looks, anyway, it's almost no different. makes me feel like half these products are a total joke in terms of price point and value.

[@1luis4wero]

These led lights are super strong I lowered my intensity to 50%

[@Brendan_O]

would this light be ok for a maxima clam, there arent very many videos about vlams and light requirements.

[@sheldonjessup]

I would be curious to see the part numbers of the 360n in ,a similar fashion

[@FluffyPiggyFilms]

Any recommended lighting schedules for them over a mixed reef 120 using the spectral controller? Mine are 12 inches off the waters surface

[@NationalReefing]

Here's a sample lighting schedule for the Kessil a360we tuna blue (mixed reef): Mil Time Color Intensity 1300 1pm 10% 20% 1700 5pm 40% 50% 1800 6pm 60% 70% 1930 7:30pm 70% 75% 2025 8:30pm 50% 60% 2300 11pm Lights Off *Lights are 9 inches off the surface level.

[@FluffyPiggyFilms]

jassimps thanks man! Is this the schedule you use? I subbed ya😄

[@NationalReefing]

No Problem Aiden glad it was helpful. So yes I worked up to that intensity over time and after BRS's video I will move my rock of Zoas in the center-upper area of my tank making room for more SPS. I now understand why those Zoas haven't brighten up but are multiplying like crazy as they soak up all that PAR.

[@NationalReefing]

I run a 9hr lighting schedule with 72% of the time spent at or below 50% is indicative of how powerful these lights are over my mixed reef aquarium. After watching this video, I adjusted my lighting as follows: Time. Color Intensity 1300. 0%. 25%. (4hrs) 1700. 5%. 50%. (1hr) 1800. 10%. 75%. (1.5hr) 1930. 15%. 80%. (1hr) 2025. 25%. 55%. (1.5hr) 2200. Lights Off

[@pedro161977]

are you doing the powermodule hybrid?

[@tristanrogers1780]

I love the lighting series but will you ever do a video on a budget light? Perhaps the Sunblaze T5 fixture that you recommended in the FAQ video?

[@djcharlierock_ny]

Great review, truly helpful. Question, 6ft 125 gal tank I have three of these, from what you present it looks like I should add at least one more? Oh and a hint to all who own these from a Kessil rep., clean the lights with canned air similar to what's used for computers, to keep them at peak operations condition. Thanks!

[@djcharlierock_ny]

BulkReefSupplyCom thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

[@jamieford4920]

Hey BRS great video was an excellent watch 😃 can I ask which kessil you would recommend for a 45cmx45cmx45cm or 17.7 cube with glass lid will be lps dominate but planning on some sps aswell, would you recommend the a160we or the a360we thank you 😃

[@jamieford4920]

BulkReefSupplyCom thank you for the reply I actually emailed yourself earlier and Meredith has emailed me back :) saying to use the a360 aswell thank you

[@craigpowell6685]

when are you going to start shipping to Australia?

[@jeffreywey]

i currently purchased a Innovative Marine 30L tank. Can you please let me know if I get 2 of these Kessil A360we lights are sufficient for my tank? thank you.

[@mikemclaughlin7468]

Great video as always Ryan. With my Kessil 360w's I am having the most luck with very low color percentage and high intensity. 10 color and 85 intensity right now. If I turn the color up it pretty much smokes everything in the tank. From what I'm getting from the video par is not really effected by color right.

[@rookie_reefer4062]

Made me feel better about my decision to go with kessil AP700's over radions. If the 360's did that well the ap700's are probably similar in what they can do. I have a 6 foot long and 2.5 foot wide tank and have 2 ap700 fixtures and according to manufacturer recommendations 2 lights are enough but I feel like it needs a third one. Thanks for the video BRS!!! I'll be waiting for the video on the ap700's

[@joeyavino]

Nice video. What about doing a video on Algae rectors? I have a DIY one and I'm wondering what affects increase/decreasing the flow on it has if any. I know if I were to increase the lighting period it would remove more nutrients but what about increasing flow? The water would have less contact time with the macro algae but more water would go through it. So, would the nutrient export be more, less, or the same? Hrmmmmm...

[@yasseraloy4178]

So I have these kessils with the kessils controller. My question is, Is 5% color in the controller means 95 to 100% blues ???? I currently have then at 30 % color and 50% intensity. I would like to know bc i would like to go lower in the color and higher in the intensity thank you

[@yasseraloy4178]

Thank you

[@carlospina6751]

Really enjoying the in-depth research you guys are doing in this lighting series, btw which light are you testing next?I'm hoping it's the AI Hydra 52 HD.

[@akhilennium]

BRS.....you guys are awesome

[@PSCThrillSeeker]

Hi Ryan, cool series nice and informative. I still like a combination of LED fixtures and T5. I Still love this combo, A mix of old and new technology.

[@PSCThrillSeeker]

I agree you get the best of both worlds.

[@luissantiago6903]

Can you get saltwater from the ocean and put it in the tank for fish??

[@timbiddiscombe5551]

Sure. I did it for a yr. Get it from a clean source..very important. I stopped because it became a pain in the butt after awhile.

[@andrewr022488]

I have a JBJ 30 RL right now but I am upgrading this fall to a 60 cube 24x24x24, Would the A360W-E have enough light penetration to light a 60 cube? I'm looking for a light that I can use right now on my 30 rimless and still be able to use on my 60 cube when I get it. Debating which light to get, 1 A360W, 2 A360N, 1 AI Hydra 26 HD, or 1 Radion XR30W. Obviously Cost and output are the two main factors and I'm looking for the best ratio of performance per dollar. I've always been attracted to the natural shimmer lines of the Kessil units, but I just don't have any first hand experience with ANY of the units that I'm currently considering. I'm currently running a 150w halide with 14k phoenix bulb, It has 2 PC bulbs but I don't use them because I'm making the switch to LED soon.

[@devisissy1]

Was barely enough for my one jbj 45. It pinpointed and burned some corals then when raised was not enough light for other corals. Switched to a black box and I finally got results!

[@tricktaylor]

I've been in this hobby for almost 4 years. just recently ive begun thinking of replacing all my initial equipment purchases. I started with the cheapest everything. From Dsuny black boxes to a standard 55 gallon tank w homemade 20 hallon sump w hob overflow to cheap Amazon skimmer and pumps it was all the cheapest i could fimd that could do what i needed. The prices are insane. Like i get lights are expensive...at $85/ panel x2 my lights are the most expensive equipment i own altogether. i see how much nicer stuff looks under kessels or the like but I dont quite get why its 10x as expensive? and even more baffling are some ecotech pumps...my ac pump was like $50 and 4 years later not a hiccup. Same wuth my water brand name $100 gyro wavewaker and $45 wavemakers. The big names want 5 or even 10 times more than what some comparable equipment costs. over thd years ive spent a lot of money on coral and j did have a crash that i lost it all. but it was my fault not the equipments. the tank never stopped running and most of the fish lived. i was sick during covid and was topping off with bottled water and not doing regular changes. however im about 6 months back into it nos and i want to replace stuff. starting with lights. a few have burned out, most importantly the ultra violet blues on one panel. i have the 55 gallon which is 4 feet long. ill likely replace it eventually but to light it id need 2 maybe 3 of these...so then im like maybe the AI Prime is more my speed... i cant imagine spending 1500 on lights and losing functionality from the 165 lights i had. that pretty much rules out kessels for me. its either ecotech or ai for me...seeing as the footprint of my tank will lilely change before id buy new lights smaller led modules like this are the better option... But somebody tell me why their pimps are so expensive please? after lights I'd buy a controller...apex. why are cheaper ones crappy?

[@zefrem1]

Thanks any chance you could do a test on the 160 aew

[@MrStipr22]

what's the intensity when using 4 lights? Thanks

[@primoprimo2904]

Hey what about the aqua illumination hydra 52 and 26 HD they are very popular lights would love to see par levels and recommended intensity and spectrum since ai lights don't offer build in plug and play option you basically have to play around with it and hope for the best lol

[@zunkbox]

Indeed, it's an awesome LED source for reef tanks but very expensive :( Can you please suggest alternatives?

[@michaelkirby3897]

What size do I need for a 20 gal hax tank ? Thank you for your time !

[@anchor4346]

One

[@Mr.Glitch]

Any chance of some info on the iLumenAir v2 lighting rage please? i'm finding nothing on line and cant get the lighting right for my 120L tank. Alas a Kessil is currently out of my price range, as much as i'd kill for one. (I wouldnt actually kill, maybe give a really nasty chinese burn or something.)

[@Mr.Glitch]

BulkReefSupplyCom no worries, it's not one of the most used lights so I know it'll not be at the front of the testing list heh. Hopefully I can figure it out in time!

[@m1keyz266]

how many would I need to cover a 6x2x2 tank ?

[@xisotopex]

whats a good setting for this light for a mixed reef? kessil isnt very helpful.

[@steevareno2002]

I used 2 kessil a350's with a 4 bulb ati dimmable sunpower and the sps colors and shimmer were a tough to beat combo.

[@michaelx1983]

amazing- so informative. Wish they had an in depth look at the tuna sun range

[@fromdburg]

GREAT REVIEW!!! please do the a160we

[@Robert-im5ut]

Would love to see results from the Reef Breeder V2 line. Very good light for the money.

[@JLards]

running 160we tuna on a 10L sps bowl. Only running gear is heater and airstone, So far great results!

[@Manniejr310]

When are you guys reviewing the ai hydra 26 hd

[@johnbudau7647]

You guys should add Canada in for your contests and giveaways im sure there's a lot of us who watch and subscribe like myself. Love the info great work!

[@CrustyBollox]

For a 60x60x60cm tank, would I be better off with two A160W or one A360W?

[@CrustyBollox]

BulkReefSupplyCom thanks! I was a little concerned there might be shadowing issues with the single light source?

[@riafyamamber]

I would love to see more combos of T5 and led that you review!

[@evandickens3917]

Why doesnt brs sell fluval sea lighting?

[@BRStv]

We select products on a good, better, best mentality with the goal of carrying products that we would use ourselves. We get this question a lot with lower cost LED brands. Some of the LED brands out there just don't have the power to support corals past low light softies. I'm not sure what the par numbers on that particular fixture would look like, but judging by the amount of power it pulls, it's likely not very high.

[@cheseenlo]

how bout some T5 - LED combo's like the Giesemann Aurora ?

[@tracydoll7910]

What would we do without your indepth reviews!

[@ReeferGil]

Great vid!

[@lucasrios7355]

Thank you so much for this vid! I have a kessil over my 65 but and I've been debating to sell it but I don't know! 2 lights would be optimal but I don't have 400$ to buy a new one! So I'm going to switch to Chinese leds a member in my local club has a 2000gal with 40 of the Chinese leds! And he grows everything fast! But I may hold on to the kessil and convince my parents to do a frag tank!

[@karennation3580]

I am defiently going to reconsiderer now!. They looked sharp as hell mounted to the wood!If I were to mount o the wood I would have it rest on the side of the tank, you know like the strip leds. I decided to wait until july 4th for my lights hoping for some good sales but dont see any..Bummer on that! Also Defiently need to check out more youtubes of this light because I have heard people say that the blue isnt very deep and very windex blue and rRan made a point about not being the best color pop and the shimmer gets a it crazy for me. I know I dont care really for the abplus or what ever its called beacuse its a little to blue so it is scarry that I am going to pick out something visually appealing and may not grow my corals as well, if at all! LOL Thats what safe with kessil. . I know most people turn up there blues and down the white and very little onother colors so maybe I will have luck with that, now that i have thrown kessil in the game how will I ever decide? LOL Then if I go with radion which was my initial choice before my tank crashed! LOL I dont know whether to go blue or pro because even though i dont like a crazy amount of blue I like that they added cyan and lime, so maybe I could just tone the blue down a bit! Wish I knew an LFs that had them up and running in Tampa which is where live so I could check them out!