Investigate the Quality of Release - Teaching Moments with Sifu Adam Mizner

[@OWR_Mission]

these little tidbits are much appreciated for those of us who can't quite make it to the seminars

[@nternalPractice]

Dude, I hate to tell you this but you won't get anything from tidbits. This is a system that is meticulously methodical and has to be painstakingly built and properly integrated, one step at time (in the correct order). While people invariably delude themselves about achieving "quick" results (and insights), in truth, without the correct groundwork removing, and explaining, "tidbits" is virtually useless.

[@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life]

With Sifu Adam there are always gems to be found in his teaching. This video was incredibly informative, thank you for this Sifu Adam.

[@JohnJohn-jk7wu]

Bullshit

[@MonacoBlast66]

Your sense of release should change hour by hour, however, as soon as it becomes about power, you're off the path. The "quality of your being," as sifu says, is paramount.

[@nternalPractice]

It's insane that one's experience of this art is, quite literally, CONSTANTLY changing.

[@joyalways1179]

Tai Chi taught with such fullness and knowledge, as seen here, is pure art.

[@poorkwamoi]

The basis of this is still very Chinese… Practice it thousands of times, again and again (what Gong Fu really means) and learn it through the trials and tribulations… And then depending on genetics and talents..some people will get it sooner…some will get it later…and unfortunately…some may NOT ever get it…but still, everyone that want to achieve something must practice, practice, practice….

[@willblackett4709]

Always increase the quality of release

[@eddienugent2135]

Profound words of wisdom, a gift to those who choose to accept their meaning and look within. Thank you 🙏

[@40JoCharles]

Quality, as always 🙂🙏🏼☯️👊🏼

[@barrycroucher602]

Extraordinary !

[@jamespisano1164]

You are the real deal, Sir. I look forward to learning from you.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

Mitzner knows this because he’s a Buddhist but this is the same reasoning of explaining the nature of mind.

[@lightmountaintop6120]

Amazing ! Thank you for sharing.

[@patrickschlageter7561]

Great explanation! Thank you sifu! 🙏

[@robertbrown1778]

There are a few interesting points here. But the reason we're hardwired to resist is that someone can almost instantaneously and ballistically hyper-extend a joint causing damage. So we instantaneously tense to protect. When everything's slow, then you've time to indulge in all this "release" and (I'd argue) redirecting. Anyone who's done some locking can see Mizner knows how to protect his joints; he's making damn sure mechanically they don't get hyper-extended when he's "releasing" against the locking attempts.

[@malmess2164]

Ah ben c'est sûr, une fois que le bras est cassé c'est un un tard pour agir 😊

[@blockmasterscott]

A good friend of mine that is an amateur boxer was telling me the exact same thing about boxing that Adam was talking about in this video, how you change over time as you progress in whatever style you're in. It was like the exact same topic that Adam was teaching, except it was my friend talking about boxing, especially with the part about not concentrating on technique. It's the same with me and Choy Li Fut, I'm not the same person as I was 3 years ago in regards to training, and I love how spot on he was when he talked about how Tai Chi should work in spite of mistakes. We have the same philosophy in Choy Li Fut, make it work when everything is going wrong.

[@clacicle]

The difference between your friend the boxer and Adam is that the boxer eventually tests his skills in the ring. “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.” Mike Tyson

[@tranquil_dude]

@@clacicle the ring isn't the only place to test one's skills 👌

[@clacicle]

@@tranquil_dude that’s true. But, it would be fair to say that Mizner hasn’t tested his skills in either arenas. Not that it doesn’t mean he doesn’t have some interesting skills though. He does. Nevertheless, it’s his personality and business approach that doesn’t sit well with most.

[@tranquil_dude]

@@clacicle you could say anything about him, and it might sound "fair", as long as it's in the right tone, because over the Internet noone can really tell what your relationship with him is :)

[@clacicle]

@@tranquil_dude I have no relationship with him. I attended one workshop and quickly got to see some of the “inner workings” of HME and very quickly decided that I wanted nothing to do with that. I’ve met a number of people who have been part of HME. They all left and they all said more or less the same. He definitely has some good skills however he also has some serious personality flaws and questionable business practices which are wrapped up in his quasi Buddhist/guru cult following.

[@rayankrystar3742]

thank you, being sovereign!

[@davidpowell3377]

i would like to see Joe Rogan do an interview with him

[@gdmbluesman]

Thank you Sifu Adam! Insightful lesson.

[@alexanderkeinashvili3576]

Psychology for inner art is the key

[@jonmaragliotti8857]

What I'm not sure of is whether Mizner actually believes that he's reached a high level of martial skill and possesses extraordinary powers. I've never met the man, but my guess is that he's a mid-level practitioner with decent body connection and a giant ego who perhaps received training in Yang taiji at some point in his younger years but was never a disciple of a high-level taijiquan teacher, which left him with a need to prove himself. My bet is that over the years he gathered bits and pieces of information from available literature in English or from push-hand experiences with other practitioners and melded them into his own understanding of taijiquan. Also, my bet is that he actually believes he possesses a high level of skill. His self confidence has managed to attract those in need of what he offers! And though he's an annoying and obnoxious snake-oil salesman, he sells his medicine to those who want it and will defend its potency to their bitter end. Best to let him work out his own karma.

[@brandonlanois1734]

So what you are saying is that Jesus never actually walked on water?

[@emilianosintarias7337]

i don't know why you think wisdom, or even a pleasant personality have anything to do with mind body skill, yogic skill or martial ability.

[@eugenemay8226]

@Push Hands as a Training Method: Push Hands is a fundamental training method in Tai Chi, emphasizing the cultivation of sensitivity, balance, and coordination. It involves two practitioners engaging in a slow, rhythmic, and continuous exchange of movements, aiming to maintain physical contact while redirecting and neutralizing the opponent's force. This practice requires practitioners to be fully present, attentive, and responsive to their partner's movements, fostering a heightened sense of awareness and sensitivity.

[@jeantau3018]

Good video but difficult to achieve such inner quietness to be able to receive different forces as he does.

[@pavelsokolov6446]

Nice. Words > a concept > a set of feelings of compression and tension that corresponds to the sought quality. A search algorithm with a negative feedback loop.

[@pudpudp]

Thank you sifu🙏

[@thosger4348]

the student in the red shirt..... it looks like as if he is acting........ if he is not acting and is driven by Chi from the teacher, then it is really something extraordinary

[@hardygoetz]

Hier ist der korrigierte Text: Was wie eine übernatürliche Kraft wirkt, basiert lediglich auf dem Verständnis für die Wichtigkeit eines sicheren Standes beim Kampf und auf der Anwendung der Gesetzmäßigkeiten von Hebelwirkungen.

[@DiscoverTaiji]

es ist keine Hebelwirkung

[@נאדר-ש4ז]

What is the meaning of empty observer?

[@malmess2164]

Toi qui observe ce qu' il ce passe pendant que tu fais

[@sunulee3555]

amazing

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

The freedom to act is the ability to act is the power to act is the authority to act is the sovereignty to act is the independence to act is the choice to act.

[@lawyi76]

Any chance Adam can demonstrate on a grappler or wrestler resisting him?

[@ansgaranzinger493]

it´s more a religion or a philosophy...and it´s useless against fighters.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

he does a little bit of that in the documentary. lyoto machida, fabricio werdum, both of whom qualify as grapplers, and the world's strongest man was there also

[@jimmybovver8768]

@@emilianosintarias7337 they were paid

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@jimmybovver8768 to lie?

[@poorkwamoi]

@@jimmybovver8768 : prove (to everyone) they (Machida and Wendum and others) were paid to lie…just like you want proof of tai-chi itself….

[@rudyvillafane]

This is such a complex topic in practice. The piece explained here was very well done. Thanks Sifu Adam.

[@shunpari]

I found this very helpful, thank you.

[@julien-desbordes]

Thank you !

[@Jacky85804]

松是对的，但是效果不可能是没有拿住的时候对方在未用力的情况下也能制服对方。所以说，很大一部分都是配合做出来的效果。

[@Ninjaotaku]

Thankyou

[@Grégoire777]

Gold !

[@SnakeAndTurtleQigong]

🙏

[@joanstone6740]

Just like bagwa single palm change

[@Jack-uc5ly]

at 1:05 he just turns his wrist yet the guy goes to the floor.... ??? Seems a bit fake? Is this a cult?

[@patrickschlageter7561]

It's not about the outer movement but the inner movement.

[@SWTaiChi]

The techniques are real and very skilful but it looks like the student has become auto conditioned.

[@RHIMYM]

I also don't think this is possible. Even with a "inner movement". I don't think it's possible to put a grown man down with a wrist twist while he grabs it. Unless he is doing it on purpose to show a great force of his masters in front of strangers...

[@Jack-uc5ly]

@@RHIMYM they should get someone who's not affiliated with the class or one of the students. Like members of the public in the street? Just strange how it's always in these controlled environents. Would love to see this 'inner movement' but it's only ever with their own students.

[@RHIMYM]

@@Jack-uc5ly yes indeed, and don't get me wrong I'm into tai chi and qigong for a fighting style. More, it is fully necessary if you want to stay effective in your body utilisation (alignment, explosive force, respect of the biomechanics) but all that don't make you a man who can put someone down with a twisting of the wrist. I know great masters in karate style where they use tai chi and qi gong principles but it's always kind of realistic. There's nothing mystic about chi, you can't put someone down as you wish because you're body is "relaxed". Like you said, try this on someone who won't agree to what you do.

[@rogelee-TW]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@khaledabed4441]

This is so truuuuuuuuuuue !!!!!! Sifu Mizner is AMAZING... and really smart 💪 song biceps 🤣❤️❤️❤️

[@davidb6759]

You’d make a lovely coupke

[@drolo7]

🙏🙏🙏

[@hanklestank]

Pretty sure dude relaxes so hard at 1:00 he squeaks out a fart

[@dragonzhang6584]

one of these non-Chinese Taiji Quan grandmasters

[@tc47101]

rất hay :)

[@yahwehfearmagazine]

👏

[@Shimkrishna]

I can feel the strength of the shoulders and the power of the abdomen. Hwang s Taichi chu an is really nice. Of course, Master Adam developed it.

[@briansprock2248]

'Come on break it!' 😅

[@Durzo1259]

I love Tai Chi and want to learn it, however, I don't know why so many want to teach it as a self defense system. It was invented as a health system out of Qigong and it's application there is tremendous. As a self defense system, I've searched far and wide and never found a single video of someone effectively applying it as a combat method. It could help prepare your body & nervous system for self defense, but the techniques themselves are clearly of no use in self defense - otherwise you'd be able to find one instance of someone actually applying them.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

chen style is probably the origin of taiji, which has roots in longfist and probably white crane. originally very much a fighting art but it did become watered down over time especially when taught to royal family. which is similar to how modern society wants to learn something easy that will give them extraordinary ability. that is fantasy. taiji was originally one of the more effective combat arts at the time because it was trained that way, today it is often marketed as an effective fighting art based on its historical provenance alone and not the way it is trained. like any combat art, its not so much the style but how that style is trained.. bjjitsu would test against all styles and refined their art to be dominant for a long time, wrestling's conditioning is proving to be dominant because of how hard they train. dagestani wrestlers train like rural mountain farmers with a lot of hunger, kinda like early rural chen farmers defending their village. taiji taught as legit fighting art is exceedingly rare these days but can be found if you really search. taiji and a lot of traditional arts forms are not necessarily training specific applications, a lot of form practice is to change the body's quality of movement. there is still good taiji around if you really look. where are you located? a report on someone who did the footwork to meet Mizner kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHuVpnyAgLGSf8k

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

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[@Durzo1259]

@@iamPROTOTYPE Interesting, thank you for the history. It sounds a lot like how Taekwondo was one of the hardest martial arts used in military, but got turned into fun-time exercise in the west. It would be fascinating to see the original combative form of Taiji.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

@@Durzo1259 check out the ren zhongxin playlist i linked in the comment above

[@Durzo1259]

@@iamPROTOTYPE I watched the whole thing. It was very compelling and seemed honest, but given that he saved up for months to see him, he was clearly extremely committed to the idea which may have led his subconscious to play along as other students of fake masters do. The extremely hard boot camp he went through there might have also worn down his psyche and made him more susceptible to suggestion. Given the lack of any clear means of transferring so much energy to a student, it could lead to the greatest breakthrough in physics history to have him studied, which nobody seems to do. We still need to see such methods work on a non-believer.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

This transformative quality of releasing relates to Engel's dialectics of quantitative to qualitative transformations and Mao's internal contradictions and their relationships with other internal contradictions.

[@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life]

Yes, Sheldon Cooper, and even more importantly, If you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

​@@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life I'll just take your anti-intellectual reaction disguised as humour as a compliment. Thank you.

[@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life]

@@symbolsarenotreality4595 As one matures there hopefully will become more opportunities for wisdom to shine through and for thoughts, concepts and analytical analysis to take a back seat as in this case. In other words your overthinking it, literally. To understand what Sifu Mizner is teaching here with Quality of Release you need to get out of your head, and into your body. This type of study requires the body more than the mind to do the bulk of the learning.

[@symbolsarenotreality4595]

@@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life Nice anti intellectual rhetoric mate

[@BaritoneUkeBeast4Life]

@@symbolsarenotreality4595 For this type of training and understanding that is exactly what's needed.

[@Sam-z1c4o]

He performs well but explains very bad. Released shoulders are important but not they give power but mental length of lever which we push aside.

[@jdrex5039]

Adam Minzer can fart lightning bolts! 🌩

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

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[@useruseruserist]

I call bullshit.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

youre the not first to publicly demonstrate their ignorance and gleefully announce youve never encountered taiji kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHuVpnyAgLGSf8k ren zhongxin kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIuYhn-Nrb2Ma80 and you wont be the last

[@matthewmagda4971]

I wish people would stop asserting that performers from other companies don't matter. Ric Flair and Sting never needed Vince. If the WWE collapsed tomorrow, plenty of good wrestling would still happen.

[@iamPROTOTYPE]

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[@peterjeck2684]

Hey Adam, sorry again I know you go through hell but we have to stand more together now. Business is not the point anymore. Bg

[@carlodefalco7930]

Have , can any of his students who have been with him , his instructors do that ? Especially with non students , non compliant people ? 🫣🤔🤔🤔.