FINALLY VR Gloves That WORK!

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Gloves or controllers - which one is your pick? Looks like very soon VR gloves will become a uncompromised substitute to controllers! Here's the link to check out UDCAP VR Gloves! - www.kickstarter.com/projects/udexreal/udcap-silk-like-vr-gloves-for-steamvr?ref=81vibi

[@GeniusJewels]

I would like to see gloves that allow the skin on my palms to be exposed, like maybe with finger rings. (Then there's no sweat.) But it's exciting to see how swiftly they keep inventing new technology for VR! BTW, your cat ears on your avatar were so cute! 😸 Great video again! 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@BlackArroToons]

That is cool they have the analog controls on them for more precise movements. Nice review, thanks DiscoVR.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

I was skeptical about it at first, but it actually works so well!

[@ArlenKundert]

Having either direct camera based hand tracking or glove based tracking are both great innovations for XR. That said, I think I want both hand tracking and traditional controllers used seamlessly together. Being able to holster my controllers on a belt when not using a weapon would still be super useful for numerous reasons, while still off loading things like spells and opening doors to gestures and grips would be awesome. That, and if we could have the Quest version of the leg trackers that Pico is launching; having all three, hand/glove tracking, traditional controllers, and leg tracking, would make standalone VR reach peak natural control input.

[@Kethra430]

Cool, im definitely interested in this design

[@HarvickOne]

this would be pretty nice for using flight and music instruments in VR

[@glenrisk5234]

Yeh seamlessly transition to and from a sim setup.

[@visorrepublic]

Interesting and simple solution to locomotion. Will be looking out for future gloves with this design philosophy.

[@dalec2274]

you are leading on new stuff nowadays

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Trying to keep up!

[@tageru1541]

What I would hope for is, that they put some kind of string on it that detects when you hold something and prevents you from going further. Ofcourse it would be very tricky cause it needs to be prevented from going further with some simple yet probably fragile contraption that might break if you dont watch out what you are doing with those gloves.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

These would probably also work with the new Pico trackers, kind of overlooker benefit of that system. That you have two small trackers that you can attach to anything. So a cheap tracking solution that covers everything.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Honestly, I think they just need to redesign the now-universal Touch Controller standard for more analog triggers: One for each and every finger with individual loops, and an analog thumb trigger on the top. Basic. Rather than fancy, compute-eating tracking or the Knuckle's pressure sensor, just cheap old school solution: More analog mechanical inputs for the human hand. Loops could also register reverse finger-pull inputs.

[@siriusgu4579]

Hmmm,, haptic and button attachment module just for naked hands and for standalones, might be an interesting angle.

[@DocMasterm]

Yes

[@Udexreal]

Cool gloves match the coolest u in the VR world, Tetiana. u really give us a great video showing how the gloves work in the VRC games. and if anyone wanna get more details about us or gloves, take a quick action to reach us!

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Thank you for the opportunity to review them! Love this tech and wishing you all the best luck mass producing them for consumers!

[@SeageSpeaks]

Now we just need BCI on our headsets, so we can walk in game the same way we walk irl, but without letting ourselves actually walk irl. We bout to use more of our brains with this one!

[@windexhc]

Would love to see someone try a shooter with empty airsoft guns while using the gloves. If the tracking and irl guns worked together you could theoretically run dry fire exercises with these.

[@TimLongson]

An upgrade to improve these is modifying them so there are 8 buttons which you can trigger by pressing each finger tip to the same hands thumb. So right hand index finger-tip to right hand thumb = button 1, middle finger to thumb = 2, etc. 8 buttons is enough for any in game options without needing to use janky multiple buttons along the side of a singer finger, providing much more immersion. Would also love to see a haptic version with resistance on each finger so you can touch / feel in game items. But I do agree, fine hand and finger tracking via VR gloves rather than game controllers is still a big upgrade over awful plastic game controllers.

[@rakusaiae]

So u still have to get vive trackers to get them work properly ? Kinde confused

[@terrystokes7893]

Looks awesome Great video 😊

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@PR-xe7lt]

only a matter of time until the vr gloves replace the controllers

[@FlockofSmeagles]

It's the trackers. The bar will never be set until they can supersede the vive tracker with something more efficient, and much smaller.

[@MarkGrob]

Runs great on XR Elite mocap module.

[@antjones2281]

You look crazy with all that hardware on. 😅

[@bluebell1]

Great video. Just wish they didn’t require base stations. I’m not sure if I could not use a controller but this is a cool concept though!

[@PocchariPup]

Looks like the Kickstarter says they support other trackers as well. - "The gloves themselves do not have spatial tracking capabilities, but several tracking solutions are available. We highly recommend the Lighthouse system and also support Ultimate Tracker, Quest controllers." So if used with something like the Ultimate trackers, no lighthouse would be needed I think.

[@Skychaser67]

Nice, i see myself using this in IL-2 or DCS

[@DumpsterBug]

ok something looks abit off in the negative part, why is the wire keep changing size. like there is one super short wire that seems fit for the glove then one long wire that looks like a after thought.

[@rollbacked]

can these use SlimeVR trackers instead? that way the tracking is self contained and doesn't require base stations

[@KingTodd]

my main issue would be the price for these. When the index came out, and the amount of issues(hardware), the price they where asking was already insane. it actually makes them look much better now. If they can properly price these around 300$ and maybe 500-550$ USD with tackers included. then it would be better to get these for sure. and overshadow the index real fast.

[@ColinXYZ]

The final price is $800 no tracker included.

[@KingTodd]

@@ColinXYZ Yea, seen 700$. But, that is even worse for price. Not even worth it at that rate. its HIGHLY overpriced for what it is. that it makes the index controllers much better.

[@StudioPartners]

i myself have hyperphantasia if vr keeps developing it might be near hyperphantasia

[@nsbd90now]

I want guitar and drum controllers for the music and rhythm games like they had for Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

[@Eagledocstew]

I should have known that such cool and interesting gloves would have to be used with a PC, not my standalone Quest 😞. Hopefully the tech will make it possible for us Quest 3 users to enjoy these gloves

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

You can use hand tracking on Quest 3 with PCVR without any gloves :) it's just that they won't have any analog controls - just your hands: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqTPgYuPgtF9qqc

[@Eagledocstew]

@@DiscoVRTetianaBut that is hand tracking, not these gloves-or am I missing something?

[@Saiba_Suke]

i will stick with my big screen VR head set. Its the best on the market

[@spidermonkeynr1]

I'm so intressted in those. I love it

[@CorvusZim]

Is it possible to use quest 2 controllers instead of vive trackers?

[@technikchegger7228]

Thx for share

[@b.s.7693]

The design seems to be a good approach. But the need for lighthouse is a pain in the ass for people with an inside out tracked headset...

[@cheapcrackers4772]

Maybe not. The video seems to suggest it just needs to be a Steam VR compatible tracker, so, for example, the Vive Ultimate trackers might be an option to eliminate the need for lighthouses.

[@kylekenderdine4197]

Can you use vive ultimate trackers instead of light house trackers or does it have to be lighthouse?

[@berryvr7184]

im suprised your not using tundra trackers, they are allot smaller and would work great for this

[@OptimusGrizly]

Price is a little steep for what it is IMO. Definitely would like something like this but not for the price and the fact that I would have to have base stations is the biggest deal breaker. Maybe down the line when them will not be needed I will pick them up.

[@funkyburns6381]

i need these asap

[@glenrisk5234]

How do you use the menu without a menu button? Don't like the huge trackers. Otherwise though I like them a lot

[@channelvr1293]

any idea if these work with DCS or MSFS2020 ?

[@maxeydylan]

I wonder how these would work with a vr gun stock.

[@Marzio84-VR]

Molto interessante!! Bel video!

[@tescosmixtape2619]

Here's my issue with these gloves, don't have them and don't plan on getting them if they still need trackers that are as bulky as they are. that aside I think these are a great step in the right direction for those that want finger tracking but have the complicated issue of moving around with finger tracking, I've tried it and it's awful there needs to be buttons and a joystick aswell as being tracked by the tech that is already inside the gloves. early in the video you said how easy they are to set up but then later say that you had loads of issues setting them up.

[@lighteningnewspodcast]

Can I use it with quest 3

[@WiNNiep00h]

oh its just about tracking. i thought its about feeling stuff in VR :D

[@valixt]

Not sure I wish to put them on and off all the time (not to mentin wearing them at summer) 🤔 ... and it remained unclear how you actually clean/wash them.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

Description is inaccurate. The headset is not available for $10.

[@RanmaruRei]

The comparison with the iPhone button felt off though, because the button was pointless from the beginning.

[@ArrizalAmin]

Just a ring with buttons and analog thumb should be enough and more comfortable for quest users

[@brucelee-hi6fu]

does this mean vr sign language will change

[@FSK1138]

the finger buttons are an AMAZING idea!!!!!! the price, however, is not that good.$$$ . i think if they sold the finger buttons as a separate product it would sell quest 3 has "good enough" hand tracking for me

[@KP-48-007]

How do you move without left stick?

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Thumbtacks and buttons are on both gloves

[@vroitwyrd]

Was pretty stoked until I saw the tracker. An unfortunate inconvenience, but these still look amazing. Been looking for a QP controller / Knuckles alternative. There is surprisingly few options available. They are also rather pricey, especially if you don't have base stations already. Someday, maybe.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Pico just released the motion trackers that are cheap, and you can attach them to anything.

[@germytron]

i prefer always the steam vr tracking than the inside out. It is always superior from my testing

[@Ling2Long]

I think they are locked to the Pico platform.

[@FutureLaugh]

are they washable? i be sweatin

[@fredrickbambino]

it’s nice but it’s still bulky and needs a lot of peripherals, it’s a step in the right direction though

[@arfazero1]

holey dongles batman, do you think you could make a dongle hub for the extra dongles so i can plug in all me dongles mate

[@RedSlashAce]

Cool cool 🙂 still need to meet up sometime so you can try the Gauntl33t glove 🤔

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

I’d like to see your progress on that!

[@RedSlashAce]

@@DiscoVRTetiana let's maybe find some time October after I get back from Japan or November to meet up for a demo or possibly at CES if you are attending CES 25 🙂

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

@@RedSlashAce not attending CES 2025 most likely, but still! We'll find the way because of the proximity ;) wow have a good trip to Japan! Sounds like so much fun

[@RedSlashAce]

@@DiscoVRTetianaDefinitely! We will figure something out 🙂 I'm definitely looking forward to Japan! Leaving for Japan in just a few hours.

[@Johanneslol11]

This looks fun, but I don’t have a gaming pc yet who is strong enough 😔 I Nederlands buy other things first haha.

[@Zoey-TV]

they should work with vive ultimate trackers, no?

[@Udexreal]

Yes, we support UTK

[@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe]

Wow, these gloves are expensive. $500 just for the gloves. Then you will have to buy all the other accessories, plus two Vive trackers. Seems like way more than I am willing to invest. I like my Valve Index Controllers they work fine.

[@TheBoss42x]

Big Screen Beyond looks so much better than all these headsets

[@FPChris]

I need buttons for pistols etc.

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

Grab a toy pistol in your hand 🔫

[@mxrlalo]

So you are telling me after spending $400 on the gloves, I need to spend on 2 additional vive 3.0 trackers 😭😭

[@Slothrave]

tundra trackers would make it lighter

[@DaftGlassAlice]

ribbon cable torn, vive tracker clips snapped off in under a month i can see it now.

[@React2022-u7l]

Kickstarter can’t buy it

[@valzzu]

only issue is these are expensive as hell

[@Artimidorus]

So $500-$700 for the gloves, plus another $400 for the trackers? Ugh, that hurts. I definitely wanted these, but I can't replace my Knuckles with $900-$1100 just for tracking. There has to be better devices out there...

[@dustinthefox7510]

So where are my 7 buttons

[@86themadhatter27]

Definitely a cool sign of things to come but i am not going back to base stations haha. I'll probably switch to hand tracking when they make gloves that make you feel like you're physically holding something, like you cant close your grip if you're holding a gun in a game for example. So a long long way away for me

[@T00DEEPBLUE]

Then hold a toy gun in your hands. And you're not really feeling like you're holding the physical object you're touching with controllers either. Base stations are still objectively the best tracking system for VR overall, but you do you I guess.

[@86themadhatter27]

​@@T00DEEPBLUE Yeah i'll just buy a few dozen random toy guns that i can switch to depending what's in the game. Great idea...

[@T00DEEPBLUE]

@@86themadhatter27 Works for airsoft hobbyists.

[@T00DEEPBLUE]

@@86themadhatter27 Imagine a world where people use different types of controllers to simulate different sensations in games. Such as the use of a steering wheels and pedals for a racing game. Crazy huh.

[@86themadhatter27]

@@T00DEEPBLUE very

[@ellenkyocn5339]

actually u can use quest controller、pico controller、slime vr or anything which can tracking your hand in steamvr to replace vive trackers as handposition tracking parts

[@mxm-ok]

Their website was taken down for non-compliance, not a good look for a newcomer. Id rather build my own

[@Udexreal]

I'm sorry our official website is currently undergoing adjustments. It will be back to normal soon.

[@BerryTheBnnuy]

AND they cost like $12000 probably

[@gunslinger9171]

Kickstarter, no thanks. I'll wait till it comes out on Amazon

[@rhadiem]

Wow they are expensive.

[@D-money813]

kickstarter?? sskkkkrrrttt lol i think people are still waiting for a lynx r-1. no ty

[@RobertA-hq3vz]

I'm highly suspicious of this. They claim to be a 40 person company having worked on this for 2 years. But now they're on kickstarter. As far as I can tell they've only been posting info about their product for a few months, so they've come out of nowhere. Do not pre-order, or back this, as there's been a ton of VR glove, would be makers, over the years, and some have just taken the money and ran. Wait for the product to actually be produced and see the reviews. Buy retail, not upfront and years in advance.

[@err0r-s3archer]

Yes but 500€ for JUST gloves. No. You need trackers aswell which is atleast 100 Bucks per Hand. I dont wanna spend 700 Bucks for smth like this. It costs almost as much as my headset like what. 300 for the gloves without tracker alright but 500 without?

[@paigelooney6117]

If they still rely on baystations, then they are still crap, but at least this is a good way to move forward with, hopefully they make these with wireless vr alone as well so you wont need these rest of the garbage.

[@Void_Glitcher]

these Gloves are highly overpriced, 500$ rn NOT including the Vive Trackers and after the Kickstarter campaign is over, its gonna be 700$ PLUS 260$ for 2 Vive Trackers being 960$ in total.

[@Gorillavr506]

Hi

[@DiscoVRTetiana]

hiya!

[@Gorillavr506]

Do you wanna play gorilla tag later today please

[@OperatorPuski]

Looks stupid actually and hiding the bulky pack that sits on the back of the hands is clever camera work

[@malomalovids]

I see everyone who gets a UDEX Real testing kit is exclusively using lighthouse/base-station trackers. Why are we going backwards in tracking tech when you have the most sophisticated consumer-grade gloves on your hands? Is this a co-sponsorship? Do none of the current IMU trackers have the necessary mounting hardware to fit UDCAP's gloves? In all of the testing videos I see an insane amount of tracker wiggle; small-format IMUs don't have as much bulk or mass, and wouldn't wobble around as much. I just find it funny that I can have better finger tracking than an Index user but the second I put a blanket on I'll lose all tracking because the base-station no longer has line of sight.

[@T00DEEPBLUE]

You've missed the point. You've left out all the inherent downsides IMU's have that render them unfit for purpose with VR gloves like these. IMU's are way less accurate than base stations and constantly drift over time, requiring recalibration every ~30 minutes. This might be a slightly more tolerable compromise for nonessential parts of your body like your torso or legs while hanging out in VR Chat, but when its your primary control method where precision aiming and reliability are essential for basic gameplay, IMU's are utter dogshit. Until these design limitations with IMU's are addressed, base stations will remain superior into the foreseeable future. This is precisely why Udexreal recommends Tundra/Vive 3.0's over IMU's. It should also be pointed out that tracker wobble on these gloves is massively reduced with Tundra trackers over the Vive 3.0's the video shows as they're way smaller and lighter. Just because these gloves work much better on a different (and superior) tracking system to what you're using, doesn't mean they suck. It just means they weren't made for YOU. Have a nice day.

[@Ryxxi_makes]

$500 ? and kickstarter ? hard pass. Could be a huge scam but also costs as much as a VR headset.. quest hand tracking is free. Dont take their word for shipping dates ! Kickstarters are always huge risk. research the company Do your own research.

[@S_Smthy]

So strange - with what insde out tracking and now 3rd gen of Quest - this tech look like 2019 kickstarter stuff. Big pass for me.

[@Zebra66]

Gloves are a horrible idea. They will become sweaty and disgusting over time and be hot an uncomfortable. Plus... picking things up virtually in games does not feel good unless you are holding a real object of similar size and shape. What we actually need is more / better controllers of various sizes and shapes. E.g. a realistic size guncon with removable mag to make the virtual world feel more real. Then... vr objects that can be detected by games like a sphere which can be a grenade or a soccer ball. A rod which can be a fishing rod, baseball bat, pool cue or sword etc... Then... they need to add fans to replicate in-game wind and heaters for when walking passed fire in games etc... These VR nerds are trying to be too clever and are creating a poor experience trying to do too much with too little. Mixed reality will produce the best virtual reality. I.e. real objects used in a virtual world.

[@mr.blahblah4731]

Trackers... booo