I have heard that some Maltas are very overstable but as always I can only test the ones I have. Both of the discs shown in this video were scaled at 173 which is only a few grams short of max weight for the mold. I wonder if perhaps some runs came out flatter and those runs are more overstable but that is just a guess. Please leave a comment if you have experience with this disc and let me know.
@nicklogsdon91824 жыл бұрын
Disc Golf Nerd mine is more overstable. I got a 175 firsts run and just tested my new prototype in a 167 the other day that I compared it with and the prototype is similar just has more glide. The first run reminds me of a fast zone honestly. More overstable and will turn.
@ajbrown52474 жыл бұрын
I actually LOVE the tooling around the rim of Discraft discs. Provides great grip for me.
@randyjohnson97604 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I use it for grip on my buzz and all discraft discs I have
@GSmoove18124 жыл бұрын
I’ve grown to really love the Malta. The first year or so it was in my bag, I barely threw it. However, as you stated in the video, I have been working on my anhyzer shots and flexing overstable discs and this is perfect for that. I like the Malta because it’s not crazy beefy so it will still get some glide but it will also reliably come out of anhyzers, granted you have your power and angles dialed in. I think it’s a great compliment to the Buzzz.
@KrisCoffield4 жыл бұрын
They are very good for sharing appetizers before and after a round. Very decorative serving platter.
@OrginalLife4 жыл бұрын
I use my Malta exclusively for sidearms, it has pretty close to same feel as roc3, but I just have more comfortable grip on the malta with sidearm. Roc3 for backhand throws. Great review!
@grimreefer2134 жыл бұрын
You’re the man Disc Golf Nerd! Thanks for your ongoing service to the community. I have some experience with the malta and I’ve found that the first runs were remarkably less overstable than the prototypes. I had a few protos that were considerably overstable some could say could warrant the positive turn rating but I agree some could say it doesn’t make sense to have anything other than a zero if the disc doesn’t turn. Ill say the first runs were definitely a lot straighter to where if you put some off axis torque on her or if there’s wind or something the disc could potentially flip up and ride a lot straighter instead of pretty much always dumping like a firebird, so that 1 turn rating could confuse people on the first runs. Some apparently were saying the protos were just too overstable so they made the first run less stable, which I don’t entirely agree with I thought the prototypes were just fine, if you’re looking for an overstable disc Idk know why they’d make it a little straighter. All in all though I love this disc and in different weights and stabilities I think it could be pretty versatile. But out of the box it is great for something you want to go left or resist some torque. I find this disc is a lot more comfortable in my hand than something like a roc, so I like to bag one in conjunction with some other useful mids. I’ve found the first run really shows it’s stability on a hyzer release , whereas some other discs almost always hyzer out regardless of angle.
@AlexisG542 жыл бұрын
Once you stop using a malta as a midrange and use it as a trouble spot disc, you'll fall in love with it. You need to use the turn and fade like an approach disc. You can bend this disc around trees so easily, it can save a ton of strokes on shots that would normally cost you. For example. I had an obstructed basket on a hill. I was maybe 4 feet left of the fairway below the hill by maybe 50 feet from the pin. A normal shot would be a tomahawk and hope for the best. I used the malta with a steep hyzer to bend around the obstruction and parked it. Seriously reccomend this type of shot.
@michealgrzywinski49594 жыл бұрын
Great video...super helpful and an honest review.
@mattohnona27794 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!
@dank6263 Жыл бұрын
Big Z plastic is the beefy one, the ESP always comes in less stable. I usually carry both types on my favorite molds, gives a nice subtle difference.
@mitchellmason53084 жыл бұрын
Been trying to get ahold of one of these. They are sold out everywhere.
@tillman404 жыл бұрын
How stable vs the Meteor?
@DiscGolfNerd4 жыл бұрын
Meteor is a very understable disc with big glide. Nothing at all like the Malta
@chrisjensen99414 жыл бұрын
I have the same dilemma with my Quake and my Anchor. They both have the flight I'm looking for in that slot, but I have a little more confidence in the Quake. The Anchor has the DGN logo, and I want to represent whenever possible. Decisions, Decisions. Usually carry both...
@DiscGolfNerd4 жыл бұрын
Yah it's a tough call because I genuinely really like both in flight and in feel. Probably gonna stick with my Anchor for now but I'm gonna hold onto a Quake too.
@grimreefer2134 жыл бұрын
I think where this disc shines is in its small diameter feel and comfort in the hand , i’m sure there’s plenty of other discs that can replace it, but for me it’s most comfortable in my hand and gives me confidence. And I think it’s definitely warrantable to give it a speed 5, because of its small diameter I think it definitely comes out of the hand faster than something like a four speed zone, but because of the stability obviously it won’t go as far as like a less stable roc3 or something.
@zafotbeeb4 жыл бұрын
For over stable mid I like the MVP Deflector.
@willhowarddg4 жыл бұрын
I like it too!
@grimreefer2134 жыл бұрын
I will say this disc is interesting in its characteristics in that under the right circumstance it can act much more overstable than other conditions. I’ve found on a nice flat backhand rip even with some power it can go right into a hyzer fade, but on a forehand which is less controlled with more torque the disc can wobble or turn and act less ‘stable’, but I think the stability of the disc is sometimes confused with torque resistance. My buddy threw my malta when it first came out and he first threw it on a forehand, it wobbled and kinda flipped up and he said the same thing ‘there’s no way this is a 1 turn rating!’. But I don’t exactly know how to parse this, because it had acted quite overstable in my testing, but when given a poorly angled rip or some inconsistent torque it can act more squirrelly, idk if this says that this disc isn’t as ‘overstable’ as a different meathook midrange , but it’s interesting to note.
@BrianDorn4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reviews. Any chance you could write in the aproximate distance on your throwing section of the review. I feel it would give some gage to the power your throwing them at, I don't really care how far you can potentially throw the disc, just the power put behind it since that seems to make a huge difference in flight. Hopefully that makes sense, maybe I am way off base? keep up the good work and charge on to 10000.
@jontalindub41194 жыл бұрын
I love The malta
@danielm72924 жыл бұрын
The Proto run was excessively over-stable and board flat. When the first run came out Paul said they tweaked it due to lots of people not being able to throw it. I'm guessing they didn't wanna change the flight numbers listed from the proto to the first run.
@DiscGolfNerd4 жыл бұрын
That's kinda what I figured might be the case but especially if they deliberately tweaked the flight they definitely should have adjusted the numbers to represent that.
@caseysmith5444 жыл бұрын
@@DiscGolfNerd They might in later runs after first run, the Archer is now a speed 5 and was a 7 when flight numbers came out for Discraft company.
@willhowarddg4 жыл бұрын
The Luna used to be a 3-4-0-2
@caseysmith5444 жыл бұрын
@@willhowarddg Yes and since Discraft is new to the numbers game they have changed disc numbers on discs to represent the disc better. That seems like it might happen with the Malta.
@willhowarddg4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure why they changed the Luna 3-4-0-2 is more accurate.
@caseysmith5444 жыл бұрын
The Swirl ESP sounds like the plastic made before Ace Race 2007. That was the stuff that now new Titanium has a similar vibe to but more OS somehow and stays slick style. Yes the Malta with just the PM logo the test flight is the very OS version from what others say, even Paul McBeth is not a fan of that disc. The mold in general is a wider rim ROC/3 disc similar to the Wasp but with more ROC shape to the wing. Since Discraft probably refused to make the Wasp in plastic other then Z, Paul had to make a new mold that was like the ROC.
@lukejo79944 жыл бұрын
Thanks chris!
@infinimetrical4 жыл бұрын
I would figure a Drone to be more stable.
@marcbenoit69744 жыл бұрын
I have a big z drone and its a meat hook like the justice
@infinimetrical4 жыл бұрын
@@marcbenoit6974 The first Discraft disc I ever bought was back when I threw righty. I didn't know what I was looking at disc-wise. I bought a chartreuse cryztal flx Drone.
@rickroll15114 жыл бұрын
If you want to find very overstable Maltas go with a proto and the weight goes up to 180 because I have a white and blue one that is 180 and its a meathook and i know the lightweight ones can be hyzer flipped which is understandable when it's not max weight
@rickroll15114 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you haven't throw the protos then you would understand how overstable a malta can be
@DiscGolfNerd4 жыл бұрын
Max weight according to pdga specs is 176.8.
@rickroll15114 жыл бұрын
@@DiscGolfNerd meh im just saying a 172g malta will fly different than a "max weight" one and also the protos were way more stable than the fr
@infinimetrical4 жыл бұрын
First. Have yet to try this disc out.
@liamsgro26404 жыл бұрын
so not worth buying in your opinion?
@marcbenoit69744 жыл бұрын
My friends and I all picked up maltas and none of them were over stable. the flight numbers are more like 5,4,1 with a fade of 2 at best. Over all I am really disappointed with them and the Hades with how inconsistent the discs are. Some are overstable some flippy.
@caseysmith5444 жыл бұрын
You are not wrong with 180 gram max diameter discs. The 180 gram max diameter discs end to with Z Wasp as an exception or a weight 177+ gram ROC/3 have glide to the midrange as do some short fairway in midrange style and fly with more glide then the others. I mean, just look at the Spider, the Cayman, the Gator, and everyone of them is lower glide, the exceptions are molds with dome to them or are technically a fast putter.
@jorgiewtf Жыл бұрын
I bought this disc based on Paul McBeth’s name a couple of years again as a beginner. I still don’t like throwing it at all.
@chrisrhome66384 жыл бұрын
P1? It's a PM
@DiscGolfNerd4 жыл бұрын
It's P7 actually
@nicklogsdon91824 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ, my Malta is crazy overstable for a mid range. I think the 1 is a good representation.
@willhowarddg4 жыл бұрын
Is yours a prototype?
@nicklogsdon91824 жыл бұрын
Disc Golf Bros it’s the first run. And I guess I mean, much more overstable than my buzz for comparison.
@willhowarddg4 жыл бұрын
That’s odd. I’ve thrown a first run. It’s more overstable than a buzzz, but it doesn’t have a ‘1’ turn.
@608tttv4 жыл бұрын
A dyed Malta would be sick to have from your channel. I’ll be waiting for the giveaway !!!!!!!stay blessed fellow golfer
@caseysmith5444 жыл бұрын
I might too, a more comfortable ROC wing might be what I want for a midrange replacement for the Shark 3 when I wear out my Shark.
@marshie13374 жыл бұрын
they need to knock off the excessive tooling in the inside rim. we've been saying for years to press THE NAME of the disc somewhere onto it incase the stamp wears away but they've gone too far. lol i hate those rough spots. been throwing discraft for 15 years and now i'm gonna have to switch..
@jodypowell53754 жыл бұрын
I heard they added the tooling in case you need a little extra grip
@deanmclean53574 жыл бұрын
This is just a wasp 2.0 imo. Where PMcb used to throw a beaded mid at Innova he and discraft decided to make a new mold and slap his name on it with any questions. Want a beaded os mid? You're in luck because their is tons on the market and most will be better without the PMcb tax.
@PeaceManBro4 жыл бұрын
DAMN BOI HE THICK! HE A THICK ASS BOI!
@tillman404 жыл бұрын
If the disk looked like Farrah Fawcett but played terrible, I wouldn’t keep it in the bag 😎
@danielplainview45874 жыл бұрын
the prototype Malta I have is really overstable. I've been playing for 4 months and I can't throw it worth a damn