Discussing My Least Favorite Disc Golf Discs/What Should You Look for in Discs?? | Beginner Tips

[@KP-dp6tp]

You seemed like a nice guy… until you started talking about the berg. You now have my subscription and undying resentment. Keep up the good videos.

[@juusotauriainen8159]

Make a video where you play a round with discs you don't like and then a round with your favorite discs to truly see if it really is the archer not the arrows. 😊

[@lennykludtke4172]

I'm a zone and buzzz lover. I've got 2 zones and 3 buzzzes in my bag. So you've definitely lost me after this one. No for real now, your content still is some of my favorite disc golf related stuff here on KZbin. Also nobody else here has taught me nearly as much as you did over the years. So thanks for everything, Robbie. Sending you lots of love to counteract all the hate you may get ❤😉

[@allaboutthegyro]

As I start heading towards MA50, hand feel is trumping brand loyalty for me. And my play is improving because of it.

[@alanlundberg4534]

The video that needed to be made! Thank jou for your courage, Robbie.

[@silverfoxdiscgolf]

Robbie NOOOOOO!!! Man I love the Berg. But to each his own!! Thanks for the fun video!

[@petermiles2249]

I'm a zone thrower and I don't hate you... Keep making these great videos!! The disk in my bag, sometimes, is the Groove. I had one that flew great but never felt that good in my hand I lost it and never found one that flies the same. Now it is my "throw it over water" disc. Can't seem to lose it so it's doing its job.

[@jeffsabine9882]

This is such a great video! As someone who is at late stage beginner phase, this video opened my eyes about simply putting some discs away for now. There are some that I can’t seem to get to work for me yet. I used to think it was just a waiting game before I get good enough to use them so I best bag them and throw them in order to get my practice in. I can’t wait to get down to the disc store and start reconsidering some of my current bag. Thanks, Robbie.

[@erichorn9858]

Robbie you’re a blessing!! I fell in love with my cookie for that exact reason but I was frustrated I couldn’t find another disc like it. I’m buying a soda next. Thank you!

[@darkpikachu4694]

I personally enjoy Classic Wardens and Challenger OS, damn good putters and for forehand approach.

[@DetourMusic1222]

The Nova. I think it came down to rim depth. On a fluke, I grabbed a Berg off the shelf like “what’s the fuss all about?” and instantly fell in love. I think for me it’s about being able to throw any disc in my bag on both forehand and backhand lines and the Nova just didn’t fit. Such a pretty flying disc though! I think you are touching on something I tell young guitar players. It’s more important to have an instrument that fits you and feels right vs what you’re seeing others play.

[@michaelwhitlock6301]

I love this video. I think it’s why a manufacturer will have multiple of a really similar flight pattern of disc - take Innova’s Rat and Toro - because sometimes you just don’t like the way one works. Or the way there are manufacturer families where you can choose multiple that are super similar like Trilogy’s Harp, Savior, Culprit, or Suspect - and then you get the really close but kinda different discs like Anvil, Anchor, Justice, Slammer, Sinus.

[@chattfiremike]

How can any one hate you Robbie! Keep up the great work!

[@terryfulwider1296]

For me it's the Aviar. I had one as my first putter for years. The first time I tried a different mold I realized exactly how much I didn't like it. The rounded inside edge was super uncomfortable for me.

[@caseysmith544]

For me the sharp edge from nose part to the actual rim is what I do not like, I can use the mold though okay just there are better and worse putters out there.

[@kieronmckay4276]

@terry, yeah I had one for years and years too. If you hate the rounded inside, don’t ever buy a Spin, I’ll save you the time.

[@walkered]

How dare you not pick on the discs that I like! :) great video sir! I've tried to like the mako3 but it's so straight for me I have a hard time putting it where I want it to go. Clearly still working on my aim...

[@TheCWHatton]

When I started.... I figured it was all about brand loyalty. Carried a full Innova bag. I still hate it secretly when I find something more suitable for me. But I'm still searching. Great video.

[@jminboden]

I totally agree with you on the Buzzz Roc and Zone over hype Robbie - thank you for saying it

[@DannyRWade]

Great video Robbie! You addressed some things everyones been thinking but not saying! For me it’s gotta be the roc. Since disc golf’s creation everybody points to a roc along with other similar discs like the buzzz for a straight midrange but I’ve always found them to be slightly overstable instead of straight/neutral how they are described. And I’ve never really liked any beaded discs so the roc just really doesn’t fit the bill for me. I also love to throw forehands and even though on backhands they are a little overstable they flip right over on forehands. Not to mention the awful way it feels to grip a forehand with a beaded disc.

[@ethanweaver1]

Hand feel is the number 1 confidence booster for me, especially plastic. I know I’m gonna get some hate but I was looking around the disc golf shop and said “oh look a passion, people really like these” as soon as I put it in my hand I said “nope” 😂

[@bryanfellenbaum9250]

Man, it feels nice to have someone agree with me on the Buzzz. I also threw the Buzzz a ton when I started and thought I liked it. But it never quite delivered on how everyone described it. Then I found the Hex and never looked back. And I used to throw the Berg a lot and still love it, but it just doesn't have a place in my bag right now.

[@LearyTheCablGiDiscGolf]

Same but reactor here

[@ReluctantAardvark]

The Hyzerbomb Soft Tank, at 2 1 0 2 is a Berg alternative that does not feel weird in the hand. It is basically a beadless Rhyno and Millennium say they are releasing new ones soon.

[@rjreliv]

No hate just love…. This was a great video to call attention to the idea that some disks work well for some folks and some don’t. we all know it but we still try to bag discs that are impressive. For me, that’s the rock three everyone thinks it’s such a great disk when they see it, but it hooks on my finger with certain plastics. so thank you Mr. man, keep up the great work

[@michaelmccourt4992]

Robbie, I'm a Zone guy til I die but I could never hate you. Appreciate all that you do! I personally can't seem to like the Vortex.

[@rickfunk1355]

I'm doing just fine, thx for the thought. 😆

[@chandlerrogers7300]

The Rhyno. I like thumb tracks and wanted a slower overstable approach then the Harp but it just didn't feel or throw good. Now I love the Hammer by Yikun.

[@brycebarber4571]

Love the video Robbie, had a blast playing with you at Timbrook a couple weeks ago.

[@ChristopherWadsworth_]

I recently got an F2 Pig because of how many great things I had heard about it, and I am really struggling with it, maybe one of my first discs that I don't like.

[@musingsofarover]

Now I may know why I like the zone over some others I've tried. My hands are smaller and I find discs with a deep rim to be hard to handle well. The zone is almost still too deep but glad to hear it has a shallower rim than some other over stable approaches

[@Mark-ro5zg]

I was using DX Aviars for a long time. I wanted to try something different and just got a 5 pack of Classic Blend Burst Judges a few weeks ago. I like the feel of the softer grippy plastic and bead. So far so good.

[@powersurge9029]

I love my classic blend judges for winter time discing.

[@joelknecht7800]

First one that comes to mind is the Zone, but I also really struggled with Aviars and found I felt better about my putting after I replaced them.

[@gwsmallwood]

Noah is crazy. The Volt is the best feeling disc in the world. One of mine is the Shryke. I can occasionally push them out past 400’ on a forehand, but I’m just as likely to burn them over or launch them way up in the air. Can’t seem to control the nose angle. The Berg is another. I love it for backhand. I love the flight I get from it on forehand, but it hangs up and late releases a lot. I’m doing some Berg only forehand rounds right now to see if I can figure it out. Because when it comes out clean it’s the absolute straightest forehand disc I’ve ever thrown out to around 225’.

[@mattpagel6681]

Never have liked a buzzz but had one in the bag for years cause everyone told me that was the disc. Have switched and fell in love with the hex

[@jordanlamarca7709]

It’s OK that you hate my favorite Disc that’s what opinions are for. It’s still great to watch you. Keep up the good work. Buzzz for life.

[@kevinconley8076]

I spied that IceBerg Challenge disc. Great event in Bloomington, IN!

[@danielpenrodii2389]

The AGL Cedar is one disc that I just couldn’t get behind. Every time is saw one, the disc was so sharp and the rim was awkward. Due to the unusual feel, you have to hold it tighter and then the sharp edge just gets you.

[@eliwirth1938]

Gotta be the Glitch for me. Picked one up and tried to like it for months, but ended up selling it. Got a Watt recently and it's 100x better, albeit not exactly the same slot.

[@ComeatMEOW]

The pole cat, I got one 3 weeks ago if that...& honestly was amazed on how good it goes...actually gets some good distance too...

[@KingKerrmitt]

Sockibomb Slammer. Fell into the whole 'it doesn't glide' narrative and beat my head against a wall to try and make it work but it was just too deep for what I prefer. Used a Tempo during the Circuit challenge and LOVED the feel and just committed to it. Now I just need stock runs to come out so I can get more plastic types.

[@jjarmstrong5585]

Can agree on the buzz and zone, i started with them a couple of months ago, and both got dropped for a warship and a tempo.

[@STOW91]

The harp... The VIP harp... It feels like a brick and a razorblade had a baby

[@brackeneuler6415]

Great video. Everyone loves the fuse. I no matter what , can't like it and I get flack all the time for not liking it.

[@wooky5461]

Loved this video….I for example love the magician most everyone else I talk to hates it but it works well for what I use it for. Not a buzz fan either but love my rocs🤷‍♂️

[@discjunkiesDGT]

Robbie, I can't believe how you dissed my #berglyfe and #buzzzz (ace disc), i'm in shock, utter shock, appreciate your POV...

[@Ithalica]

Tried out the Dagger in Latitude's Sense plastic. Disc felt super deep and longer approaches became almost impossible for me to make with that disc. Switched back to my Prime Judge and felt a lot more at ease with my putts and approaches. Did also try a buzzz recently. Loved the feel of it in my hand and the way it soared. Considering getting one for my bag :)

[@snapcase72]

I'm trying to love the Crave, but it's mostly resting in my shed now. Getting better results with the Relay and Mockingbird...

[@UtahDarkHorse]

The DGA Quake. Just too over stable, however considering that I bought it for rollers and didn't use it for that, it may be my fault. ..and maybe the Glitch. The jury is still out on that one. Got it as birthday present. Thanks for the awesome video!

[@A77ick]

I agree on the buzz. the problem is I throw it really really well. So I treated it like the ole Billy Baroo putter, I only reach for it when the shot really really matters.

[@ReluctantAardvark]

I hate beads but I love the A4. It is so consistent on pure hyzer when you have plenty of space to swing one in. And it whistles 😄

[@colinfrederick9033]

And here we are in October of 2024. Robbie C is bagging a zone.

[@johnr8645]

I recently removed all even speed discs from my bag and it greatly improved my game. Going to an 8 or 10 speed would never work out how id expect compared to 7,9, or 11 speeds. I needed a more distinct difference in feel between discs.

[@caseysmith544]

I have done this too, kept spaces between speeds with molds in the slot they fill except from a Valkyrie to Dragon as those are almost the same mold, but have for Dragon backup discs lightweight DX Valkyrie around upper 140's for backup as in 2021 when I was going to get the backup mold, the discs had on some shops showing actual weight that they were 160 grams and did not float in the tests at the shop from regular production runs, so for the disc I use for water/tailwind bombers I got for backup, cheap F2 upper 140 gram DX Valkyrie discs for this slot. Hopefully not being a R Pro that is less durable then regular DX, the discs will last longer when need to get the backups out for the DX Dragon I am using now.

[@jcosborn4872]

I agree with the roc. It doesn't feel great but the results speak for themselves. Its my go to from 280 to 150

[@owenmcdonald5806]

That cookie is magical, I've had some weak throws with itz but when it hooks up I love it, I'll get used to it

[@immattjohnson1]

Berg, Buzzz, Roc3, Meteor, and Harp. I really wanted to like these bc they are staples for many players, and I struggled to make a connection with any of them and finally took them out of the bag.

[@emjackdad]

I’ve just been into disc golf for about 6 months. I have hit the used bin at my local shop pretty hard trying to find what works for me. Sometimes I stand there and say maybe I should just learn to throw what I have better instead of trying yet another disc, but it really is up to trial and error. I got the Polecat a while back, but it looks like I putt better with a fan grip. That deep rim isn’t very easy to throw with that grip as you mentioned. I keep trying it but mostly leave it in the bag. Part of the fun of the game! Thanks Robbie.

[@KalThuemler]

2 years in and I can say you sound just like I did when I was 6 months in my first year I found a small company making rubber discs. I bought they're whole line up and just played those four discs people laughed at me but I learned how to throw those discs at every angle I threw each disc a thousand times now they are a staple in my bag the second year I bought 7 clash discs and used them with the rubber and I have gone from there to just collecting discs and learning new ones but one thing for sure is I have to have it feel good on release period. Keep at it I am playing around par every time out good days and bad but always a blast!! I am playing in an event this weekend and I feel like I can win! I am 62 years old yes an old man discin!!!

[@darinladd5312]

imho, best newb disc is buzzz or mako3. but i suck.

[@KalThuemler]

2 years in and I am 62 years old my best advice is to put 5 discs in your bag and learn every throw you can make with each disc and just use the same five molds for a year. Because each disc can give you so many different shots and trying to learn that and having to learn with each disc it gets confusing after 2 years I am up to 11 discs in my bag that I know what shot to take. I have 20 shots per disc so far lol play with what you got. Before buying a disc make sure it feels good in your hand. Have fun learning flights. old dude discin!

[@jeramy576]

Not a specific disc per se but an entire disc genre. I can't throw fairway drivers to save me life. I've tried Rover, Leopard, Stag, Teebird, Saint Pro and I'm probably forgetting a few. I've learned ways to adapt but it would be nice to finally find something that I can work with.

[@Big_C_Here]

To each their own, RC. Being a newer player, I'll be real quick to gravitate towards what feels good against my fingertips. I tried the Roc...hated it. I do like the Mako3 and Lion. I like the Buzzzs but not the Zones or Wasp. R-Pro Pig, feels real good in the hand and I like the flight path.

[@darinladd5312]

i love the mako3. used to throw buzzz and buzzz os (because buzzz gets understable quickly). now i throw the hex. it outdrives most of my fairways and feels good, not great, as a forehand. zone and buzzz os still better forehands.

[@Big_C_Here]

@@darinladd5312 my shoulder doesn’t allow me to sidearm; hopefully, one day. I’ve been hearing about the Hex. Maybe I’ll look into one those here soon.

[@sebmeunier3528]

The Lat64 Sapphire: tried the Retro & Opto one, supposed to be an easy to throw disc, it ends up going super nose up for me (other drivers don't do that) and/or has more fade than my Grace... The Fission Crave: I have the Bodanza Van stamp one, max weight, and that thing doesn't want to go straight, it's more OS than my Volt or Tesla... If I try my wife's one, ~150g, it's almost a roller even with ~30° of hyzer

[@joeloreilly2953]

Leopard and possible the Era. I bought a used Era and love the flight path, but i'm having trouble figuring out how to grip it. The rim is too small for my hands.

[@tygannon]

I'm with ya Robbie, we need some Star/Champ Pigs. Pig farming has become a mini-game 😂

[@akkadian1995]

I'm on the same page with the zone. I do seem to throw it pretty well but I just don't like the hand feel. I normally don't throw a lot of Prodigy but I love the A2.

[@Speye1577]

I may have a buzzz OS, 2 buzzz, and buzzz ss in my bag, but I used to hate the feel of the esp buzzz. Too stiff, too deep. Then the esp flx came back, and now that esp flx buzzz is my Staple disc in my bag. My answer to your question is newer esp and Z buzzz's. Older ones feel great!

[@Speye1577]

Also, I'll sign your petition for star and champ pigs. Send me the link

[@wreagin1]

I have bagged an A4 (500) and A3 (750) since the first time I tried them, they're the best forehand discs for me inside 275

[@TyCampbellTX]

The Berg is the best disc ever!!!! lol but I do hate the Buzzz as well. Tried several times to like it... ended up with a Hex and its amazing

[@kevinchiles9638]

Nothing but love for you. Tell it like it is. Buzz, Destroyers, Aviar just to name a few. If they don’t like it then they maybe should have left their feelings at home. 😂

[@heyerlaw]

I dislike roc3, buzz, and the Luna. It just didn't fit my hand. Totally get this video. My wife and friends laugh at me when I keep buying discs.

[@yoda_bard_gaming1712]

Luna is pretty good but I do agree that the buzz ain’t good

[@luckypennybenny]

Tried to like the pa3. Found some bubble gum pink that felt like erasers and they felt great but, I just missed the banger gt thumb groove. I couldn't switch

[@billherrera6386]

I don't like a Buzzz at all either. It feels so big and clunky. K1 soft Berg is $$$, but I prefer the Watt. I haven't found anything like a Zone, but I have a Tempo coming today to test. Agreed that Nuke is too big for my hand, but the Nuke SS is great forehand. As for plastics, S Line, K1, and Soft Proton/Neutron, and Crystal FLX are among my favorite.

[@Bhawk84]

The hex! I have 4 in different plastics love the feel of them! Just can't get a good release with them

[@franknichols3440]

My disc was the Hex. Everyone raved about it, and since I needed a mid, I went and picked one up. Just couldn't figure that one out. Tried it for several months on different courses/ shots, and it just wasn't for me. Gave it to my buddy who absolutely loves it.

[@darinladd5312]

curious: what did you settle on, and why?

[@josephhenry8977]

I had consistent issues with the aviar x3, then I played with the axiom tempo at this year's circuit challenge and it immediately kicked the aviarx3 out of my bag

[@gld3gld3]

Same here!

[@nonstop1861]

Kastaplast is slowly taking the top spot for me. K1 soft berg is my favorite followed by the Svea.

[@powersurge9029]

Hey Robbie what’s your thoughts on old R-pro plastic compared to new R-pro plastic? I have a old R-pro roc that feels great and I tried the new R-pro pig and the plastic is just too grippy to me..

[@oddish008]

I in my early game used to love the l64 fuse. As a was starting in disc golf it flew very strait for me, but now 2 years later I've moved up into amateur level it has become understable. I think I have either: 1, Ruined it by shanking into many, many, many trees. Or 2, advanced from it. Or 3, a combo of both

[@hatchjustin]

Teebird. Love the flight, but can't lose the wobbles consistently with the dang thing. Something about the shoulder of the disc and my hand

[@Footfaultmaster]

The Judge. I love the hand feel & flight except for how deep it feels to me with the head on it. Switched to Pures and have been addicted to them. Putt and throw.

[@theJHeykid]

This is what I came here to say, except I putt with Hopes now. Pures were good, but a little too shallow for me. Hopes fit right in that middle ground, feel great with the Sense plastic and have that slightly more stable flight

[@WesleyHarp]

So I've got something similar going on. I've got a Champion Mako in my bag and I just hate it. But it flies so well for me! It feels weird in my hand but I can't deny it does well for me. I've been looking for a Star or halo Mako to try. Hopefully I'll make it to one of the shops around, but none of them are local.

[@michaelwhitlock6301]

Do you have any tricks for figuring out hand feel or is it just subconscious/subjective in the store? You mentioned the A4 felt really weird in your hand til you held it for a bit - I consistently feel like my perception of hand feel is incredibly unreliable until actually throwing.

[@sofaspud518]

Any fairway with substantial dome. I've tried, I just can't get a comfortable grip/release with a super domey mid or fairway. Drivers I can throw great if the plastic is soft enough I can dig my thumb into it.

[@joshuasmith9528]

I love every disc. The disc is never the problem.

[@ericvisscher8142]

I liked this only because of Robbie's opinion of the buzzz

[@morkas86]

I love the kastaplast järn as approach disc! edit: you are welcome! edit 2: lots by kastaplast, tried and tried but cant keep it in the bag

[@TrashPanda069]

Robbie my dude, don’t be silly. For me personally the zone is GOATED no disc in my bag or that i have tried come close. But would never consider you an enemy or get upset that you don’t like it lol. A disc that i have tried and don’t care for is pyro and hex. Talk about controversy I know but I much prefer the feel of the buzzz and buzzz os

[@thegrizzly52]

I started playing this June I play a few days a week and I’ve been buying so many discs to find what I like or want to put in my bag. Most discs I kind of have a great idea of what I like but I cannot figure out putting putters. Did find a watt and I think It might be the one.

[@colinfrederick9033]

I know I'm not alone in this, the Sky God 4. I love the feeling of a deep P2 for putting, but throwing it was not comfortable. I loved the flight, but could not get down with the depth for my hybrid grip I use when throwing putters. Never felt more conflicted about a disc in my life.

[@bisonhappenstance]

Ditto. I could get some great feeling upshots at first, but only power grip lines were consistent. It wasn't versatile enough, for me, to put it in a precious putter slot where I am trying to get as many comfortable flight lines as possible.

[@caseysmith544]

I get that, a really deep putter deeper then a Wizard or the Magnets/Titanic even the Hydra due to the odd rim, they would not work as a driving putter, but the Star Shark (have backups) can becuse the way the rim is shaped and less shallow of a curve then a Magnet like disc.

[@kbone2958]

I think the berg feels great . I also like the feel of the armadillo . Idk what to throw

[@MrParacristo]

I don’t like the Buzzz. I tried and tried and tried. I even bought a Disc Store Bomb Pop Full color disc. Hated the way it felt in my hand. Just bought a Zone soft hoping to like it. LOVE THE PIG. The plastic in the Pro Line feels so good in my hand

[@trevorfrancis916]

My buddy throws a kastaplast kaxe and is a magician with it. I love the feel of the plastic but the rim size is awkward and Icouldn'tget a consistent release. I had one in my bag for way too long trying to force it. Finally let it go.

[@barnabyJonze]

Discraft Comet...I wanted to be able to throw this disc so bad but every time it was complete trash. I finally took it out and replaced it with a Sol. Even though the flight numbers are similar, the Sol just flies better.

[@dagura.9677]

I started throwing roc3 and had multiple but as my armspeed has increased it just doesn’t hold up anymore. I’ve tried again and again but it just isn’t working.

[@ohmgstav]

Kaxe is probably the disc that's gone in and out of my bag the most. I got it last summer for glow golf, and I aced with it first time playing glow. It feels really nice in the hand, plastic feels great and it feels great when I grip it. But it's such an awkward disc for how I play. It's a bit too flippy to fill the gap of overstable fairway and it doesn't really fight back from an anhyzer enough to where it would be useful for me, a bit too fast for a mid. When it's windy I really don't trust it, and I still have a little too much OAT on my forehand for it to be useful there. So it's flight is just a jack of all trades between a cluster I have in my bag. So I'll remove it too make room in my bag, but I keep seeing it, become nostalgic to that first month using it, and then just bag it and never use it, until I eventually remove it and the cycle continues. And on the flipside, when I first got the Glitch, I quickly dismissed it. I couldn't throw it at all, it turned over too much when I tried giving it power, it was way too deep for my hands etc, but this year I've forced my self to play with it and it's become one of my favorite discs. Started out with shorter approaches instead of a Berg, but now with better angle control I'll throw it off the tee too, and even use it for some sneaky approach forehands. Inside that 40m range it's basically a lazer on a forehand, "flipping the bird" grip with the slightest of hyzers and it will hit some crazy gaps. Before I would only forehand super os approach discs and fairways because of my oat, but now that I've gotten better I can now propperly Hyzerflip my Mockingbirds on a forehand thanks to the Glitch.

[@darinladd5312]

i use the glitch for putting. it has nearly replaced the proxy. but the (eclipse) proxy is still my favorite disc.

[@michaelwhitlock6301]

It took me - FOREVER - to have the courage to say I didn’t like the Buzzz. Didn’t like it in my hand, unconfident in the air. I got an ESP Buzzz and felt mildly better about that in the air, but still didn’t feel confident nor like the hand feel at all. Was convinced something was wrong with me there for a while hahaha Eventually replaced with a Compass and a Bounty. Never looked back.

[@hexvillain]

I hate the buzz, roc and nuke. I can say I'm zone obsessed. I have a Jawbreaker, a crystal flex get freaky, an OTB Glow ZONE and a Get Beefy Zone OS. I also bag a soft Berg for approach shots on a steep grade and I call them plop shots.

[@ButteredUpToast]

I tried to love the glitch but i just cant. The feel was off and i also just couldnt throw it. Same goes for the berg. I also found i have an issue with the insanity, maybe its just the fission plastic but it beat in quick and is just an inconsistent thrower for me now

[@bam_mab9190]

I've tried Rocs and Buzzz... I just don't like the mids. I think honestly the two best companies with good feeling mid lineups would be the MVP/Axiom and Gateway. Think people sleep on gateway for anything other than wizards. But MVP/Axiom Hex/Pyro/Deflector combo is awesome. Gateway/Gateway Molded(Full Turn/Reptilian Disc Golf/AGL) I love the Beech/Prophecy/Guide is what I run right now.

[@1andonlyMiro]

Robbie, I believe Apollo just got some Strikers into his shop (Opto-Ice), you could give that a shot. Such an incredible underrated mold. For me it is the perfect straight-to-stable fairway driver, I can manipulate multiple angles with it and really power up on it and the biggest reason for that is the handfeel. It's "bulkier" than most fairway drivers in the hand and I feel way more confident with that feel gripping it than I do with something like an Fd or a Teebird 😬. It's honestly baffling for me how it isn't more popular especially for people with bigger hands.

[@1andonlyMiro]

I also prefer the Harp over the Zone for it's depth on backhand shots. I think I'd like the Zone more with a forehand grip but at this point I don't see a reason to switch. Also a few years ago you could only find the Zone in a few different plastics vs the huge amount of variants in Trilogy plastic.

[@1andonlyMiro]

Oh and I prefer the Prodiscus Razeri for the same exact reason of handfeel over the Innova Destroyer. I feel like the amount of people throwing Destroyers, Buzzzes and such is way too big and based on mostly hyped instead of flight. I'm NOT saying those are not great, GREAT discs, I'm saying way too few people try other options that are out there to optimize THEIR game.

[@johnbozzelli3756]

The roadrunner first disc I tried to Hyzer flip hated it hahaha but it’s still in my bag 😂

[@stevend1325]

Just a FYI Lone Star has like 10 different plastics V1 V2 alpha bravo delta1 delta2 charlie founders Lima and glow. Only know because I am a member of there team. Love their victor bravo and glow plastics

[@chrispinnick3816]

I’ve tried to try the discmania essence. I’ve bought it 3 different times and gotten it twice in mystery boxes and just don’t click with it

[@calebdyer6332]

for me its definitely the buzzz. The sharp edge on the bottom just doesn't feel good to me. And there are other discs that achieve that same flight

[@noahrohm]

The Method and MD3 from Discmania. The Method is not as stable as I was hoping and the MD3 just couldn't get the Buzzz out of my bag. I love Discmania's drivers, but I have not had much luck with their mids.