Disgusting Weight Loss Scams and Slander | Defending Myself

[@katrina903]

Off topic but I like your nails

[@derrickscott1630]

It was never a phase!

[@Euph0rigenic]

Off topic but I like your comment

[@jonathanbonilla6376]

Did he dye hos hair just because or does it relate to the chanel?

[@ObesetoBeast]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Eccentric_Villain]

Welcome to the colored hair and nails club. I’m loving the fact that men are taking up nail polish nowadays.

[@spoon1265]

I'm sorry, but the "misogynist" point is very off. I am a woman and I personally love your content, and I watch the streams from time to time. You always seem to go out of your way to make sure you don't belittle or comment on people's appearances, which is something I really like about you. Keep doing what you're doing! Your supporters are with you 100%

[@janehoe.]

I'm not sorry you're 100% correct

[@Yazzzledazzzle]

He said like the majority of his followers are women lol. So yeah it’s far off calling him a misogynist.

[@brookeb1753]

Absolutely yes!!!

[@harley6948]

she was raised in that misogyny and thinks its normal 🤷‍♀️

[@CassiK24]

This! 🙌

[@She_Wonders]

She's deleting comments and favoriting comments body-shaming John. She's a gem.

[@zarafuerstein1012]

yep, she does :) ‘I’m a victim’ type of girl:)

[@senniced8605]

And she still deleting comments, even right now lolz

[@CeceMEFit]

RIGHT!?? all the body-shaming comments are gross

[@Roamingloba]

Damn she's quick to delete, I saw some people's messages but then disappeared.

[@emmarisby]

I hope John will be okay, thats horrible.

[@mariat2761]

The fact that she’s trying to present John as misogynistic is disgusting. Honesty he is one of the kindest you tubers I watch and he has never attacked anyone based on their gender. He just calls out people’s bs about fitness industry.

[@achivdon]

He starts with most videos saying Hi to “guys, gals, and non-binary pals.” He is so sweet and to me, he also tries his best to be very inclusive and considerate even if he doesn’t agree.

[@HollyHeartsBooks]

As a woman, I have never felt more safe watching and commenting on a “health/fitness” channel than this one. Just letting you know, John ☺️

[@angielou123]

Agreed 🥰

[@xl_psylocke_lx]

Same

[@kyliemack1131]

Agreed

[@azuleyes2000]

Same❤️

[@vuyiswa-fumba]

Same!

[@Meofalulu]

"This little guy with a loud squeaky voice" You know she doesn't have any good arguments when she resorts to ad hominem arguments about things you can't change

[@DoubleOhSevenThe3rd]

She said she respects other youtubers seconds after making personal attacks at John 🙄

[@egr3071]

Lol so true!

[@rachelbuck5673]

Yeah and John is buff and I don’t think his voice is high at all lol wtf

[@techidna-h9t]

I've never thought of John as little or squeaky, but OK.

[@triciaa7259]

I honestly thought that she was talking about Greg 😂😂 Some material that is good but his voice is annoying as hell #IgaoVoice

[@Janas_Cutz_and_Gigs]

She’s actually admitting to deleting and blocking anyone who is defending him and calling her out on her lies. What was the point of her video if she’s only gonna handle this like a child and delete and block people for exposing her lies. Be a woman and admit your wrong, and stop misleading people to make money

[@ursii1998]

Yes, just happend to me xD

[@glodiematuba2077]

I just went to this video to put a dislike on her video but weirdly, you can't see how many person like or dislike this video anymore...

[@ursii1998]

@@glodiematuba2077 couple hours ago it was 900 something, if that help 🙂

[@imnewhere9]

I went to bed 7 hours ago and just woke up, you can tell that she has been up all night deleting comments. At that point her likes do dislikes were like 350/700 lol no wonder she turned it off. Girl is gonna be tired today

[@glodiematuba2077]

@@imnewhere9 🤣🤣🤣

[@samtastic6237]

I like how she's being so condescending and claiming not to be bothered but shows it by calling you little with a squeaky voice. She's big mad haha you didn't do anything wrong. You didn't put words in her mouth or "bash" her. She doesn't care what you said and if it was correct, she just cares that you had the audacity to say anything.

[@samanthapetersen7058]

If she was unbothered, she wouldn’t devote time to create an entire video either lol 🤣

[@samtastic6237]

@@samanthapetersen7058 sooooo bothered

[@carbonatedPigeon]

She clearly took it his VERY personally lol. The instant attacking John himself when he was only critiquing the info she was putting out

[@jessleger895]

I thought she was talking about Greg when she said that lol I was confused 😂

[@brandi_tardy]

She also hid the like and dislike buttons

[@trecyyyyy3691]

I use to follow her and then I realized all the surgeries she’s had and on top of that you don’t lose fat overnight that’s all water weight. She’s giving a bunch of women false hope like she gave me before I became more educated on weight loss. There are no short cuts with weight loss it takes time and dedication.

[@christinerodriguez3976]

It is honestly scary that there are women out there promoting such garbage, the scarier thing is that there are so many gullible people that would believe that line of bullshit.

[@kimayamaya8732]

Sis done had surgeries?? 👀👀 its the lies for me!

[@trecyyyyy3691]

@@kimayamaya8732 yes!! A BBL I believe. She did a video on it years ago but probably deleted it now.

[@trecyyyyy3691]

@@kimayamaya8732 and i could be wrong but i believe a tummy tuck after that

[@kimayamaya8732]

@@trecyyyyy3691 wow! A hit dog will hollar! This chick can't be mad because he's bring awareness to people by making them think beyond surface level. If anything people should be thanking him for the info, not saying that everything he says is true but he does bring up good points.

[@Cantbebotheredbyyouanymore]

Notice how her entire “response” is literally just a personal attack because she knows he’s right and she’s lying to her audience

[@crashingxhearts]

This woman does everything BUT eat clean and exercise.

[@RachelReduces]

John is a good person, who supports women! He doesn't support someone scamming their viewers constantly or someone who encourages women to dehydrate themselves, drink Teami and "wrap" the fat away. None of these methods are Healthy, Sustainable or even Truthful.

[@OMAR-vk9pi]

Omg he supports women

[@kristenjohns8498]

@@OMAR-vk9pi wouldn’t it be funny if someone came along joking about that making the statement even more valid? That would be ironic and hilarious.

[@sarabird7922]

As someone who has had disagreements with John on certain topics, he honestly cares for those taking advantage of others and his response is completely appropriate given what she is trying to do.

[@BaublesOfDelight]

I used to like Keisha Rose...until I realized that every other week she's losing 40+ LBS overnight or some other warp speed time and I'm wondering how many lives she has where she's finally losing the weight by doing 'this one special thing' and its such the revelation! 🤷🏽‍♀️ The jig is up! It is so up!

[@El_doll]

Warp speed 🤣

[@loveneisha]

Same here. I use to watch her when I was on a downward spiral of fad diets and it did more harm than good.

[@teairalittle3180]

Yes, I been stopped watching her. How many times has she lost the same 40 pounds!?!?

[@xtinaj7450]

Same....just became redundant and unbelievable

[@StopPlayingAtLife]

Same, it didn’t make sense… she’s all over the damn place too much for me

[@FitLabb]

As a fitness professional for over 20 years, I can 100% confidently say that what she presented is absolute false nonsense. I love that you call out the BS in the industry, ESPECIALLY the extreme lies & misinformation that she spewed in her video about losing 10 inches of belly fat overnight with vicks vapor rup & shrink wrap. The content of her video was so egregiously bad & predatory by providing some of the worst info I’ve ever seen that she MUST know is wrong. There are NO SUCH THING as quick fixes or short cuts to lose weight. If she says anything else, she is either knowingly lying for her own financial gain, or she’s showing how little she actually knows. Either way, from what I’ve seen & heard so far, she has absolutely no business giving anyone weight loss advice as the quality of her knowledge & information can never be trusted. Keep up the great work John!

[@janehoe.]

Bro you're always here just drop the url

[@rani.andretti]

She sure does know it's wrong, because in this response she said she provides quick fixes to lose water weight instead of fat. Why not just admit she was wrong?

[@sonja4164]

Well said

[@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel]

I think she knows, and I believe a good portion of reviewers watch her for entertainment purposes only

[@BLiNGyourALARMclock]

As a fitness professional of 0 years, anyone with a brain should be able to tell it wouldn’t work…

[@maryem9225]

“where i’m from men deal with the men, women deal with the women” HUH. that is wild that she thinks whatever gender segregation she grew up with should apply to the INTERNET.

[@CeceMEFit]

🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

[@bellycurious]

Maybe she's living in Saudi Arabia?! 🤔🤣

[@shinchan7778]

She grew up in Afghanistan during the Talibán period apparently.

[@ZedDep]

If the "men deal with men and women deal with women" is what you want to follow, then you can't cry about misogyny because that type of thinking COMES from super patriarchal and misogynistic cultures. I know cos I was raised like that. But if anyone were to hurt me, my super patriarchal dad and grandma would go after them - whatever their gender is. And that's what John is doing. He's 'going after' the type of bullshit that's hurting people.

[@shinchan7778]

@@ZedDep amen to that

[@dietdevan5155]

If John was a woman she would be saying some BS like "us women gotta stick together why are you bashing me"

[@YaYaWeighsIn]

She is that type

[@dietdevan5155]

@@YaYaWeighsIndefinitely

[@e.harris4002]

💯💯💯

[@Montana677]

How can she say he's a misogynist, he's literally helping women by giving us the information to prevent us from being scammed and feel better about our bodies even if they don't look like an Instagram influencers. Michelle covered another woman screaming sexism because a man pointed out her 'how to get abs' advice was harmful bs. Makes me so mad, misogyny is a real problem but these women shouting it as soon as a man pisses them off is ruining it for the women talking about real issues.

[@2136-t5c]

Michelle did that? I know nothing about the drama. Are there videos about it? I can’t find it anywhere.

[@Montana677]

@@2136-t5c it's called 'feminist claims she's strong but can't take criticism' on her main channel my thoughts will probably offend you 🙂

[@2136-t5c]

Thank you! I will definitely check that out.

[@nicpic1985]

@@2136-t5c It was a good video.

[@sithmont]

Oooooo I hope Michelle covers this situation too haha

[@no-wun]

the way she came out with "little guy" & "squeaky voice" instantly doomed anything following. if you have to resort to insults before even getting to your point, you've lost the argument.

[@Dani-ci1cx]

It’s was the Protein Bar “ad” in the beginning for me…

[@amandahugginkiss9065]

And then shill for a protein bar 😆

[@melt3563]

Her: why do you keep bashing me personally by calling out my scam? Also her: he's a little guy with a squeaky voice who just hates women.

[@annakatherine4410]

yes! agreed.

[@YeaNo.]

I can confidently state that putting a wrap around your stomach will not help you lose weight and it is extremely dangerous. That water weight you're losing is water your body needs. I have done this before and ended up wasting money and feeling stupid. But I am currently losing weight the right way and have lost 30 pounds spending no money and not torturing myself with restless nights.

[@spawnie051]

LOL I did that once and went jogging on a nice summer day XD. Now, that felt stupid XD, and I couldn't stop laughing at myself for doing it later that day.

[@kunjananisad2937]

lmao i remember those belts

[@daniellestith4314]

Congratulations on your weight loss!!

[@resilientbodies]

Congratulations on your weight loss! You should be so proud of yourself ❤️

[@galeforce3192]

I still stand by what I say that waist trainers are just specially-designed corsets meant to scam people trying to lose weight. I'm glad that you managed to get past that and have lost 30 pounds the right way. =)

[@brittany4194]

The “quick fix” solution so many people seek out everyday is the EXACT REASON there are so many overweight, underweight, unhealthy, ED ridden people in this world. I used to look for quick fixes all the time and it always lead me back to square one or even worse than how I started.

[@deshaa8909]

Content creators like John keep it real. Calories in v. Calories out. Healthy relationships with food and movement is key.

[@emmarisby]

Same. I would drink so much cayenne and cinnamon etc. 😭 It was disgusting. Where was my logic jeez.

[@brittany4194]

@@deshaa8909 100% agree

[@brittany4194]

@@emmarisby I did the same thing. Tried vapor rub and apple cider vinegar and so many other quick fixes. I think everyone has been there at least once.

[@urbutholstinks2304]

@@brittany4194 SAME THE VAPOR RUB ONE omfg i remember rubbing aton of vicks on my belly and wrapping my waist with plastic and shawls it was so uncomfortable

[@imnewhere9]

MAJOR UPDATE lol John posted in her comments saying that he would like to discuss and have a moderator if needed - she deleted the comment

[@limiabean]

She is literally putting out inaccurate, potentially harmful, clickbait material that preys on the desperation of others and is now butthurt because people are calling her out. It's all deflection for the fact that she was caught red-handed. Also, loving the black nail polish. I've been rocking black nails with accents for much of the summer.

[@wiffy3067]

I don’t understand the point of her response video, she didn’t defend her stance on vicks(because she was lying, and didn’t have any solid ground top stand on) so now she is just suggesting that she should be able to spew bs for views and not get called out. She deserves every dislike she gets. This response video did her more harm than good lol.

[@MaribellaPortraits]

And she thought she was educating someone today

[@Martuska80]

@@MaribellaPortraits lol, she should educate herself first and stop spreading harmful weight loss information :D

[@scotthouse3664]

exactly… she more worried about losing her subbies and seems upset that John may contribute to losing $$$

[@scotthouse3664]

She is very bothered

[@timmah7874]

It’s a common technique of grifters, instead of addressing the issues a critic points out they play the victim and then personally attack said critic with trivial appearance based nonsense, or in John’s case, due to her gender, because it’s far easier frame it that way instead of defend the indefensible. It’s exactly the same technique Freelee the banana girl used with John.

[@youabttoloseyojob5100]

She didn’t challenge any of your talking points. 🥴🥴

[@sonja4164]

She sure didn't. She can't.

[@AnjelEYez614]

Sooooo is she saying if Michelle McDaniel told her Vicks wrapping was stupid she would be ok with it??? Just asking for a friend lol

[@imnewhere9]

no, that would be fat shaming, of course!

[@wuramkesvfx]

No😂 women supporting women you know

[@sophiakt28]

Man I wanna see Michelle react to this now!😂

[@galeforce3192]

You asking for a friend because said friend was gonna send this to Michelle? XD Seriously, though, I'd love to see her react to this after what happened here.

[@chloedsmith]

@Kayla R lol nothing will stop Michelle, and I like it that way. Tired of people thinking opinions are only valid when they come from a certain type of person, right is right, wrong is wrong, and facts don't depend on your genitals or weight

[@faithweibye5161]

the people that try to come at you and say you’re misogynistic literally have no valid arguments. I’ve been watching your channel for a while, and I feel safe here. I feel seen, heard, and represented as a woman through the videos you make. haters gonna hate I guess

[@cami3p990]

SAMEEEE!!!

[@JackyValentine129]

Omg right? And he's always so cautious and respectful with critiques even to the point where I occasionally need to check my own internalized misogyny

[@saltybunbun]

Say it louder for the people in the back!!

[@pokefan5ever]

I might get hate for this but I’m just gonna say it: The reason John talks about more women is because those spreading BS weight loss advice and promoting quick fixes are mostly women 👀

[@winnievaughan]

It’s perpetually marketed to women and women perpetually market it. It’s true that it’s a different ball game for men.

[@uwushinobuwu]

💯

[@pokefan5ever]

@@winnievaughan Yeah it’s all a vicious cycle. Women are targeted more, and also more desperate, because media/society has made us believe that the smaller we are, the more we are worth. It’s an f’ed up cycle. But yeah I definitely don’t think he intentionally targets women, it’s just that so much of the BS comes from women.

[@Dani-ci1cx]

Sad but true.

[@calicuauhtli9841]

Honestly this is true. But at the same time men fitness influencers are constantly lying to men about how much muscle they can gain ect. So men influencers lie also just in a different manner.

[@ericarose9686]

Things like body wraps, "detox teas", fasting, etc. are all trends that are a reason as to why I formed a binge eating disorder. These quick fixes are extremely dangerous and can become toxic. John, please continue to call these things out no matter WHO says them. Also, as a WOMAN, you are by far my favorite fitness channel. You've created such a safe space and community where productive and realistic advice is given. By the way, when you put content on the internet others are allowed to reply. That's how a MAJORITY of KZbin works so I'm confused why she's so angry??? The fact that she manipulated your video as well to fit her narrative says a lot.

[@stepha_F]

“lEt ThE mEn f0cUs oN tHe MeN aNd ThE w0mEn FoCuS oN tHe WoMeN” Somebody call the lovely Michelle McDaniel to explain to her that what she claimed worked doesn’t & was wrong to mislead ppl the way she did🙄

[@vvalariesal8725]

Dude!! I would love to see a video of Michelle McDaniel reacting to this lady’s reaction!! 😆

[@JessXXlynn]

I was thinking of her the entire time I was watching the video lol

[@hollysmith1347]

I hope it happens 🙏

[@cheesyguadalupe]

@michellemcdaniel we need youuu

[@amberc9053]

Actually, I need this to happen now, because I wanna see Michelle react to this in cosplay

[@tinaxanne]

john must have steel nerves, lowkey i woulda been so upset and he’s just giggling. i really think it goes to show his character. she’s attacking his voice and liking mean comments and he just giggled and disproved her points, no personal slander. we love youuu john

[@terrip8451]

She's taking advantage of people who are uneducated in health and weight loss. Those who even have an inkling of knowledge know this whole saran wrap thing is literally just losing water weight.

[@kathleenadeshoga8415]

the apple cider vinegar detox for weight loss made me roll my eyes.

[@mpazinambao2938]

She's just a little salty she got called out, don't worry too much about it.

[@DoNDiPzOsH]

Lol that sums it up.

[@MrsMetamorphosis]

Exactly

[@nicpic1985]

Yep.

[@joeepic4347]

This woman is narcissistic, purposely obtuse, tries to paint herself a victim and thinks she's way smarter than she is. Was it worth responding to?

[@emilydurkee8664]

✨ Content ✨

[@RedSkyDayz]

I would have to say when she I blatantly lying, not just manipulating her audience, it’s worth getting the correct info out there.

[@SunRayBabyJ]

Absolutely worth it. She's been getting away with this for too long

[@spOOkytimes]

I got major troll energy from her too. I don't think I could get myself to give this dillusional snake oil salesperson the time of day.

[@JanellChristeen]

Purposely obtuse 🤣

[@e.harris4002]

Oh John honey...haven’t you heard? You can’t reason with a covert narcissist. It really doesn’t matter what you say, she’s always gonna think she’s always right. She’s not even in the position to be giving weight loss advice (i.e. still very much overweight) as most of her journey consists of quick fixes and surgery. But hey, everyone can be an expert on the internet.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@SwampCeeMcGee60]

She reminds me of an ex family member. No matter what, they had to be right all the time and they were also obese/overweight and giving diet and health advice. The similarities are uncanny.

[@MrsMetamorphosis]

I’m throwing you mad respect for actually verbally acknowledging that overweight people have no business giving weight loss advice. It’s TRUE! people need to stay in their lane.

[@rachaelaustin1615]

This. Yes.

[@ggundercover3681]

but! you may not convince her, but maybe, just maybe one of her subs might see reason and stop taking her lies

[@jborrego2406]

She’s not fat overweight got to be fucking mean

[@missanthropy5687]

i still want answers from her as to how she lost the same 40-60 lbs multiple times with different "simple tricks" and the same before and after photos

[@pla4825]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@imadinosur]

I feel like "quick fixes" only contribute more to an unhealthy relationship to food/fitness/self-image/etc. She said "be careful who you listen to on the internet"....yeah girl they need to be careful of YOU

[@SwampCeeMcGee60]

They do. I used to drink laxative teas and use body wraps and it really didn't help my relationship with food and my image. It made it worse because everything that's lost is water weight and it comes back sooner than later.

[@SunRayBabyJ]

So true! She was projecting and talking about herself.

[@tinaxanne]

it’s one thing that she’s scamming a bunch of people, it’s another to attack another creator and say cruel and petty things about their appearance because you don’t have anything valid to say. she is just cruel, she’s showing her hand.

[@tracy_cakkes]

Exactly The name calling was just childish

[@TregunaPrice]

She literally pulled her pants up higher in the original video She didn’t lose ten inches - she PULLED UP HER PANTS!!! Like am I blind?!?

[@ashaburrell2820]

🤣

[@El_doll]

No you're not 🤣

[@TregunaPrice]

@@El_doll thank you- I was about to phone my optometrist to check my glasses 😂

[@hannahwatkins7992]

I think she had weight loss surgery tbh. She came out of no where showing these insane click bait before and after pics, there's no way you can change your body that much, that quick, and still have a giant perky butt, but only lose your stomach. You can't do that by diet and exercise alone, much less in 1 month.

[@ashaburrell2820]

@@hannahwatkins7992 She had a bbl and gained the weight back

[@tbt2012]

The fact that her followers are saying he is using her to go viral when he has a much larger platform than her is historical to me.

[@tbt2012]

@Terminator the keep calling him a hater and it’s funny, I keep watching the comments and any comment that are pro John have Magically disappeared within the last hour

[@georgia76]

They are making fun of his loose skin also while people are try to defend him she is deleting there comments but the insults still remain!

[@tbt2012]

@@georgia76 right it’s ridiculous, even so now they are claiming he sent us over there to dislike her video. Even though he will always tell us not to do that 😂 I’m like no I’m pretty sure we’re all disliking the video because she took his video out of context and keeps deleting comments that go against her narrative

[@dewilew2137]

@@georgia76 super crazy seeing as she had several pounds of extra skin surgically removed from her own body!

[@elinazariel]

quick fix is always water weight, never belly fat and she should not have claimed it.. period

[@alexandrabikes]

I can’t get over when she said you can only talk about men on KZbin. I don’t care who you talk about as long as it’s entertaining while I eat dinner.

[@Haghenveien]

Please don't go to this lady's channel to dislike or to go leave a negative comment. That helps with the algorithm too and the last thing we need is youtube giving her more visibility than she already has.

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

Um.. I'm at the 11 minute mark. But what on Earth does she mean about "they can't figure out how to get into the algorithm so.." Girl, he's got twice as many subscribers as you! Wtf?

[@juliajs1752]

I'm more shocked that this lying, scamming person has as many subscribers as she has...

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

@@juliajs1752 Yeah for real. But if you think about it, a lot of people would rather have someone tell them "you can lose 10 inches overnight!" and give them "quick fixes," rather than be told the truth and hear that it's going to take work and consistency over a longer period of time. It's just more of this "tell me what I want to hear" garbage.

[@Tsiskoko]

Her strategy is to gaslight her audience. Instead of addressing your actual content she just says its “so silly” and over-dramatically rolls her eyes lmao. She intentionally cherry picked your video probably, to prime her audience for how to react to you before they get curious and look for themselves with their own brain. She parrots some of your rhetoric so that people know what to ignore. It’s a basic tactic of abusers to control their victims. She doesn’t believe anything she’s saying, she’s just saying whatever she has to, to control the convo and manipulate her audience’s emotional reactions and get their torches burning and pitchforks sharpened.

[@akaneakane1969]

She's made zero points, go girl, give us nothing!

[@sirnathanstorernbsn]

😂😂😂

[@storiesandmessybuns1473]

I really hope Michelle McDaniel posts a video about all this… On another note: I really appreciate the care and attention you put into your content, John. Anyone who can listen to and agree with what she says hasn’t actually watched your content. Keep doing what you’re doing. Your videos have helped me a lot!!

[@keelyshae_97]

She’s on IG calling you a clown but has a post up from June 2nd talking about ‘how I lost 14 pounds in 4 days. Link in bio!’. Disgusting. These people just leech off their audiences by handing out quick fixes not realizing how damaging it is.

[@watchesfromedges]

As she uses titles about losing outrageous amounts of weight in ridiculously short time frames so often, if her fake hacks worked the weight would stay off and she wouldn't need to talk about them. So they clearly don't work because she can't keep the weight off. So what the F is the point of her videos?

[@keelyshae_97]

@@watchesfromedges exactly 👏🏼 really disappointing that these people in the industry get a platform.

[@jeanfrazee1896]

Every time John says “non-binary pals” I perk up like a second grader being called on in class lmao

[@emmasrandomfacts1]

I think it’s adorable when John says that. Everyone is welcome here.

[@hunterflowerson4460]

Awe, hearing things like this always reinforces how important it is to be inclusive, it can make people’s days/just be a little uplifter. I’m a straight cis male, so I can’t relate to any of the struggles, but I will always empathize and try my best to educate others

[@shifter1030]

“Some small, squeaky voiced guy,” I see no Greg here. Love you dude you’ve helped me so much, i appreciate that you just say what it is instead of just nonsense.

[@dxxniir800]

I really like your content , I feel like your honest and you call out the bullshit. Also you are respectful of people’s bodies and you never talk people down or body shame

[@victoriamitchell7233]

wowww i can’t believe she was bold enough to make an entire video about you 😂 you didn’t say anything wrong in your initial video in my opinion, her “weight loss tips” are irresponsible and flat out scammish

[@MissKitae]

Almost every single rebuttal she came with was an ad hominem. That's really telling that she's a better BS artist than debater.

[@sonja4164]

Right!?

[@sonja4164]

@@MissKitae exactly.

[@mahooi]

"This little guy with a loud squeaky voice" Was that really necessary? I cringed so bad-

[@Rhiannon.Moonchild]

Cringe and not even accurate at all?

[@neen42]

Loud squeaky voice is Greg Doucette 😆

[@Dani-ci1cx]

She is the result of a lifetimes worth of yo-yo dieting, surgery/quick fixes and denial that none of it is working. SMH.

[@sonja4164]

Exactly.

[@ReyaJean]

This is a great example of taking something out of context. She literally only used parts of your video that helped sell her agenda. Keep doing what you’re doing because you are amazing!

[@mayahelan2078]

I always thought her channel was iffy. But wow her response shows how much she is a manipulator

[@emilycress2895]

It’s so offensive to pull the misogyny card wow, For her as a woman, and I as a woman, to have actually experienced the effects of real world misogyny and then use that to garner sympathy for your narrative is so disappointing and makes me lose so much respect. Women are facing actual misogyny and she’s using it as her argument when she has no better points against what you’re saying. Ugh so disgusting.

[@Serenity7250]

Exactly. Misusing such a word so flippantly told me all I needed to know.

[@vitico123ful]

"I keep a low profile don't do drama" proceeds to do neither of those things

[@georgia76]

She has been interacting with her followers in comment section about him needing surgery for his loose skin.When she was called out for this behaviour she started mass deleting comments.This is not ok

[@AllergicToAshAndDust]

She is a whole fraud. If she knows calories in vs. calories out is the key to weight loss, she wouldn't be slathering herself with spicy grease to lose weight.

[@winnievaughan]

✨S p i c y g r e a s e ✨ LMAOOOOO😅

[@justinebrown7032]

I used to follow her when she first starting posting about her weight loss because I love to support. I literally unfollowed her because everything she posted was just plain wrong. I was excited when I saw you comment on one of her videos because I’d see hers and think “wow this is so misleading and just not true”.

[@cheryle5119]

Yes so true !

[@El_doll]

Same, she got really click-baity and I couldn't take it anymore. I peaked her game years ago

[@chelseasjourneyxox6550]

Yes I used to follow her back in the day but realizing her videos have just gotten bad like reusing old pics and claiming to lose it overnight.

[@trecyyyyy3691]

Same here

[@shekeenaarielle3120]

So did she think we, “her followers”, were not gonna come see for ourselves? I’ve followed her for a while and something isn’t right anymore. The photoshopped thumbnails, the get skinny quick fixes…. I’m sad.

[@emmarisby]

"I'm never overly mean" as if you could be mean at all!! You're one of the nicest people I watch.

[@moldyvoldy1231]

She's trying to come off as if she's not bothered, but it's very clear that she is EXTREMELY bothered.

[@alicat95]

She’s so bothered that she deleted every single comment disagreeing with her on her video!

[@moldyvoldy1231]

@@alicat95 I noticed that 😒

[@chloedsmith]

So bothered that she made this whole video essentially saying nothing, because she has nothing useful to say

[@TheCatAteMyShoe]

It seems that she can’t handle being called out. She knows she’s wrong, but is too self important to admit it.

[@gothiccfitness3448]

Literally and metaphorically lol

[@MrsMetamorphosis]

It’s gotta be humiliating though… She can’t be like “yeah I lied” lol 😂

[@emobuddha]

Man one of these days you’re gonna piss off an “influencer” and they’re gonna challenge you to a fight on the next Jake or Logan fight card lol.

[@mithicash1444]

We can only hope

[@YandereDay]

Her: i believe in men dealing with the men and women dealing with the women Also her: makes fun of a man's excess skin from weight loss

[@OhWell307]

Also... that speaks volumes that she believes that you can only talk about people based on their gender

[@LeidaraSea]

She so pressed. I really find her passive aggressive attitude so disgusting... 🙄

[@lowcalgyal406]

Dude I support you. Dont stop calling out bullshit and "get fit quick" schemes. Its like the mlm of fitness

[@deshaa8909]

Someone is going to watch her video and say “yes I can finally eat whatever I want, not workout and stock up on vapor rub”

[@ALu-nq8rf]

She sounds like the hunbots who say anti-MLM is misogyny.

[@nicpic1985]

I have been scrolling for this comment as that was my exact thought, she sounds part MLM part mega church preacher, aka scammer!

[@zanna_marie]

Sis said she's going to have a teachable moment.......and I'm like where

[@bhh-zmb]

She’s teaching us what not to do 😂😂

[@BGvibes115]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@zanna_marie]

@@bhh-zmb if we are viewing it that way I guess we're right lol

[@melt3563]

I'd love for her to point out exactly where you "attacked" her.

[@nicpic1985]

The most pointless video response, she said a whole load of nothing and 💩e.

[@vintagecameragirl]

So 30lbs is just over 2 stone. I once lost a stone in a month while mentally not well. My DOCTOR, told me how incredibly dangerous it was to lose that much weight that quickly. And wanted me to check in regularlly to make sure I was OK. This...her...is bs

[@victoriagregoire567]

I almost spit out my water seeing someone trying to mess with you. She’s a legit scammer and the reason why girls are uneducated about fitness and nutrition which can lead to a very unhealthy path. She needs to take several seat because she is pressed that no one is falling for her bs.

[@mell_gif]

Hahaha, she's removed the like button and deleted anything she didn't agree with in the comments. She's definitely hiding her lies and false claims! LOL

[@samiam517]

When are we gonna stop acting like keeping people accountable for their behavior is attacking or hating on them?

[@pinkqueenscookie]

Just women though right?

[@roxassora2706]

@@pinkqueenscookie Men too

[@samiam517]

@@pinkqueenscookie how is it just women lmao men do that all the time too. A gf will say “hey it hurt me when you did xyz thing” and he responds “I guess I’m just a horrible boyfriend”

[@tryagain9098]

It can be, but not the way John did it. He is not attacking her as a individual. He is saying it is wrong for her to trick people. He is saying what she is spewing is not accurate. SHE purposely chose a clip in his video, to make her viewers think he does the same shit she does. Which he doesn't lol. Deliberately trying to make people think he's slimy as her. I understand what you meant by bullying but in this case it's not one of them. Edit: people just think it's bullying, cause it's offensive to be corrected and called a liar. No one wants to hear that. But to me that isn't bullying.

[@roxassora2706]

@@tryagain9098 And if he was, it's still not too harsh

[@Marte0107]

I mean... if I shrink wrap myself with vapo rub overnight pretty sure i would lose an inch or 2.... for approximately 15 minutes after I take it off. Then my waist would go like ‘FINALLY I CAN BREATHE!’ and goes straight back to normal

[@sarahmonique5321]

Btw, you have the only KZbin channel that I watch that critiques other people's videos because your commentary tends to be valuable and your videos respectful even when other people are not doing right by their viewers.

[@JennRighter]

"That's the thing, people like me" No one anywhere is saying people don't like you. John never said anything about your likability. TALK ABOUT THE INFORMATION! Ugh, it makes me so anxious when people communicate like her. It's constant subtle or overt insults while never talking about what the issue is. It's the most frustrating type of person to attempt to communicate with.

[@louisarodriguez2532]

You said it all, literally the worst kind of people

[@MaribellaPortraits]

Gaslighting and making excuses

[@CassiK24]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@Mexicobeanpole]

I’m so glad you verbalized how I felt watching her.

[@JennRighter]

I know not everyone is like this. But I just want to know what’s up. If you’re upset with me, why, if you don’t like me, tell me. I don’t want to guess what’s going on and feel anxious. I’d much rather have my feelings hurt with honesty than try to figure out what the hell you’re trying to do and say. And I’m REALLY bad at figuring it out. So most likely I’m not going to. So just say it. This person saying she’s just trying to teach people healthy weight loss, then she says water weight, then she says how to look good for a singular occasion. Those things don’t fit together, girl, which is it? Ugh, I just get so frustrated with this sort of behavior. Girl, just say he hurt your feelings and move on or don’t make a video. Because this mess is like a puzzle missing pieces, and only leading to just frustration.

[@sabrina6720]

Lmao I just went to check her channel and she's deleting all comments that are calling out her bs. People like this are the reason why people believe they can't lose weight.

[@emkae6725]

Seems like she took it personally and lashed out

[@destinyt1568]

John spoke the real and it bothered her

[@shannontobin7825]

The thing that didn’t make sense in the initial video from her for me was the difference between her “before” and “after” measurements. In her first measurements she had her waistband below her stomach and emphasized it with her body language, and also she was looser with the measuring tape. Then in the “after” measurements she has her waistband on her pants a lot farther up to cover up the bottom part of her stomach and she makes the measuring tape a lot tighter on her stomach.

[@Arlenexo]

I literally used to follow her on KZbin and before I started losing weight the healthy way (eating healthier, having a calorie deficit and working out) , I had a trip to go on and wanted a “quick fix” to lose a few inches off my waist. I tried the vapor rub wrap (exactly as she did in her video) and actually left it for longer then she did and found zero results. I literally unsubscribed to her channel after she supposedly lost 10” and I measured the exact same before and after doing this wrap. Time was wasted on my end but I learned to not be so gullible . In this video she’s literally going around all the facts John pointed out from his last video about her , so dumb.

[@jojobeeslife]

Her: plethora of weight loss tips Also her: BBL and size never changes Make it make sense 🙃🙃🙃

[@QueenOfKings0402]

Called spending money to just regain the fat that was moved else where.

[@ambermcallister1408]

She is ridiculous. But the part that makes me the most upset is that she said she has a 10 year old daughter. That kid is watching this terrible example of "weight-loss"

[@DiMagnolia]

Poor kid is gonna develop an ED.

[@Briana12906]

The fact that she makes zero counter points but instead her entire focus is the fact that you made a video about her. She proved your point. If you’re truly wrong she would be countering everything of substance that you said. Instead she ignored all the substance and picked on the things that don’t matter lol. “Wahh your fans disliked my video but I’m not going to prove why you’re wrong.”

[@emmarisby]

Seriously, I don't think she should have bothered responding.

[@lee_yuhhh]

I can barely even watch the clips of her, she’s floundering so bad. Keep calling out the bullshit John, people need to be made aware of scammers and liars like her and we all appreciate you being a voice of reason on this platform.

[@user-wz7ff6mp5z]

This whole video reminded me of a horrible MLM pitch. Reminds me of a lot of archaic yo-yo dieting and “quick fixes” my mama and aunties used to do, too. There is no such thing as a quick fix with sustainable diet and lifestyle changes for health and weight loss.

[@mariferramirez6526]

I actually admire you for never putting people down for their character but I appreciate you even more for calling people out when needed. As a young woman, I used to believe in those "quick fixes" so when I found your channel I felt like I could actually lose the weight. Your tips have helped so much and I dislike that she has positioned your content in this way. I hope she reads the comments and realizes she is susceptible to making mistakes and that she can switch her content around for her viewers instead of deceiving them. Also her comments are just so mean and degrading, like girl just accept that you didn't present accurate and efficient information about weight loss.

[@thecosmicbug]

She's changed so much, or maybe this was always the real her.

[@DoNDiPzOsH]

Wym?

[@Mexicobeanpole]

In what way?

[@IAmSomaliChannel]

I agree. She wasn’t always like this. I understand getting into the algorithm but misleading ppl is wrong!

[@DoNDiPzOsH]

@@IAmSomaliChannel May you explain what changed?

[@Creolelady98]

Yeah she definitely changed. Nothing she’s doing is healthy anymore. I used to like her

[@kyliemack1131]

This video is honestly hilarious. You're the best John, keep doing your thing.

[@TregunaPrice]

So now water weight= belly fat ?! 🤔🧐 I see the whole “focus on women” because women are targeted by the weight loss industry more than guys and we often are pitched “quick fixes” because we gotta be hot and thin by yesterday Keep doing what you’re doing John, also keep the nails up bruh- they lookin fresh 💅🏻

[@cearathomas930]

Okay I really loved how you stayed away from the low blows, I had a hard time not thinking them after her initial comments ❤

[@laurajj]

a healthy sustainable lifestyle doesn’t start with hacks or cheats to lose weight faster like she can defend herself all she wants but it makes me so sad that she doesn’t seem to actually care or want to help people. these “quick fixes” are just doing more harm to those who struggle with body dysmorphia

[@TheAusomnessLucy]

She's so delusional. This is a safe and informative community that is an encouragement for me on my weight loss journey. It makes me kinda mad to listen to her accusations.

[@sydloses90pounds82]

I love that you defend yourself and call out BS while still remaining respectful. She called you a little, whiny man but you stayed only discussing the facts ❤️ Edit: squeaky voice, not whiny. Equally rude lol

[@cosmicsugarcookie9067]

As a woman, your videos have helped me so much. I got stuck in a tail spin due to all the quick fixes and diet culture targeted towards women. You have helped me cut through the crap in an educated way and make me feel empowered. I feel safe here.

[@paigemarie8768]

I rarely comment on videos but as someone who wishes I didn't grow up in a culture of quick fixes and false information - it's crazy to me that stuff like this is still being spread and deemed "helpful". It is not helpful, it is toxic. What's helpful is empowering people to create a sustainable lifestyle and rewiring the false stories and beliefs we cary with us. I think it's safe to say that there are a lot of women on this channel because John has an inclusive and empowering platform! & isn't afraid to talk about topics that are doing more harm than good. Super grateful I discovered this channel, thanks for being you John!

[@InfiniteText]

I've watched this channel since its beginnings, I don't think I've ever thought John "hates" women. He's respectful, kind, and an inspiration. He's also constantly calling out BS when he sees it so people who are vulnerable don't fall for scams