Dishwasher - no lights, no power to controls or buttons

[@rixjundi]

Detailed, straight to the point with minimal bs.. Awesome! Thank you

[@nabilwwissa]

It's bad, dishwashers at all, I had one for Costco, before In 3 years broken down 6 times it's repaired and replacement most of parts but not working probably (water from kitchen sink go inside the dishwasher ) I paid for 3 years extending warranty with Allstate after 2 years manufacturer warranty Allstate refused repair Don't buy this brand for every body

[@blackfordparker613]

After purchasing a new LG dishwasher and using it about 6 times successfully ,the control panel would not light up at all when touching " power " . ....ie , the machine was useless . LG responded to this news by insisting that the machine was not getting power from my home's electrical grid . LG demanded that I engage an electrician to determine that the machine was getting power before they would do anything about the problem . I did what they demanded and the electrician verified that the dishwasher was getting full power , reliably . It was two more calls to LG before they finally would arrange for a local service person to represent them in solving the problem . The serviceman assumed the problem required the replacement of the whole control module . He appeared 4 days later and replaced the module in c. 5 minutes , which restored the machine to operating condition . What is wrong with this picture ?? ....simply that LG should have sent a repairman to resolve the issue upon my report of the machine's failure to operate , which would have meant having it back in operating condition within a very few days ....instead of some 17 days because LG chose instead to " jerk me around " for as long as possible , instead of taking proper corporate responsibility ....

[@jamesptanner]

I had no lights or power on my KitchenAid. Did some KZbin research (including this video) and ordered a thermal fuse from Amazon for 8 dollars. All I did was pulled the leads off the old thermal fuse, and replaced it with the new one. Worked! Didn't use the new wire harness or anything, just replaced the old one. Saved hundreds of dollars on repair technicians, and lots of hassle. Thanks for the video!

[@WayneAMorsey]

This happens to me two or three times a year. 1. If yours dishwasher is plugged in to an outlet, unplug the plug completely and then plug it back into the outlet . 2. Then press the START button genlty; I found if you over press the Touch Buttons they will not work. ???? 3. If this does not start the dishwasher then check your circuit breaker in your main power panel. (NOTE: Even if your circuit breaker looks like it did not trip off, still shut it off and then reset it.) ALSO always check to see if the appliances has power first before you start taking it apart!!! That has always worked for me.

[@bobbykelley8768]

Your Note: fixed mine: (NOTE: Even if your circuit breaker looks like it did not trip off, still shut it off and then reset it.) Thank you!

[@ChristyBermingham]

Just used your 3 tip worked perfect thank you 😅😅😅

[@TallFamilyFilms]

The part I needed was W10258275. This fuse fits thousands of models. However, other models use a thermal fuse as well - it's just shaped differently.

[@annhunter7147]

Where do look in order to buy fuses like these? Is one source better than another?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

@@annhunter7147 I went to Fox Appliance because it close to me and I cannot wait for it to be delivered because I needed the dishwasher. If you can wait, I would just use Amazon. If not, I would search for appliance parts near me in google.

[@ajaydarshanala8051]

For me , removing the plug from socket and keeping it back resulted lights and long press on start & reset controls did the magic. All lights up and it started working back.

[@paulb9769]

Mains plug? Keeping it back?

[@Icyrails12]

Thank you! We opened up the door panel and saw the wires that were attached to the fuse were all melted and were black. Moved the wire a hair and it sparked. Unplugged dishwasher right away and having to call an appliance repairman. Thank you for your help. FYI, I did notice a slightly different smell to the dishwasher over the last month or so when I ran it. It did smell like something getting too warm/hot but it was a mild smell. I should have picked up on that sooner.

[@drc9378]

Always turn off the electricity for that part of the house before FAFO happens lol

[@frbobhudsongm6876]

Great video.. straightforward and clear. Thanks for posting it. 🎉Same symptoms you described. My dishwasher also has a wall switch so easy to kill the power. 10 screws in the door and the electrical panel was exposed. Located the thermal fuse and carefully relieved the pressure from the clips as you described. Removed the thermal fuse, placed in the jumper wire and the panel lights lit up as they were suppose to 😊. Using a multimeter I checked the continuity of the fuse and there was none...it was shot. LEARNING: there are 2 different designs for this thermal fuse....be sure to order the EXACT design for your (Kitchenaid/Whirlpool) dishwasher. ..one has the lugs extending horizontally from the fuse (like mine), the other style the lugs are 90° to the fuse...one style is not interchangeable with the other...Amazon sells both kinds so be careful ordering. The cost of either one is about $6 to $8. Good luck. I happy to have a working dishwasher again....the scheduled AHR/Sears repair tech is not due for another 10 days 😂 (which I am canceling today).

[@drachenexotics6053]

It’s not a fuse it’s a high limit . A metal snap dish that deforms at a certain temperature and would normally reset when it cools down . If it reads open on a multi meter just replace easy fix

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Thanks for that info. I went to the parts place with my model and said I needed a “dishwasher fuse” and he gave me that. Had you not mentioned it, I’d have never known. You also helped me understand why some people say that sometimes you can slam it on the counter to “reset” it. Thanks!

[@brianthorn8291]

Hi I messaged you yesterday and took the door covering off lucky for me it turn out that wiring had come loose but thanks again for showing this video you saved me from calling someone out.

[@JOEZEP54]

Fuse is good. Jumped leads like in this video just to make sure, still nothing. Before I order any parts what would you change? Thank you in advance for any information.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

@@JOEZEP54 take a close look at your circuit board. Look for anything that looks burned or swollen. Check both sides.

[@JOEZEP54]

@@TallFamilyFilms Thank you. I have to look again. When I opened it up I only checked 1 side for burns etc. was not sure how to remove back without breaking anything. What do you mean by " listen of the k "?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

@@JOEZEP54 typo - I fixed it.

[@JOEZEP54]

@@TallFamilyFilms Thank you

[@briezim]

Dishwasher humming along. Thanks for this video.

[@Keverton121]

Going to try this shortly....sick of doing dishes by hand

[@david.ferris]

my panel had a plug (poer controls who knows that melted. lucky it didnt catch fire

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Mine had a plug too. It was melted but not through the insulation. I replaced the high limit (the fuse) and covered all the wires in heat shrink tubing and the. Replaced my control board which was pretty burned up on the power terminals. None of that was part of this video.

[@akhellwig]

Mine is DW80K5050US and doesn’t have a control board like yours or thermal fuse present. Is dead, no lights. Any ideas? I checked breakers and they were ok.

[@AlTab-yh2gu]

Just buy a new one

[@DucatiQueen]

Yeah, imma just gonna call someone

[@MrMaxomus]

To much for you to handle hahaha

[@leafbrothers1594]

It would be nice if you say where to get the fuse.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I got mine at Fox Appliance in Atlanta. They ship to anywhere.

[@shalomIsrael-kb5zx]

Thanks

[@precastdetailing]

wait, so you replaced the fuse, righ (instead of putting the same one back in?) Where did you get the replacement part for the fuse, and how did you know which one to get?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Yes, I replaced it. Technically it’s called a high limit when you go to buy the part. I have a local appliance parts place near me that I used. I’d suggest you call them regardless as they will tell you the part number for yours based on the model number. Foxatlanta.com [phone]

[@chloe199781]

Hello, I have a Samsung dishwasher (model DW80M3021) with the same problem, was working fine and then 2 days later the panel buttons don’t light up anymore.. any recommendation on how to tackle the issue with this brand.. 😓

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I’m not very familiar with Samsung. Did you check the breaker to the dishwasher and make sure it didn’t need to be reset?

[@JeaniusP]

Awesome... I have a samsung dw80k5050us... let's hope it's the same problem thx

[@TallFamilyFilms]

🤞

[@alanathompson9357]

hey…did you have any luck? i’m having the sam issues much my 5050US!

[@myaccount__7269]

@@alanathompson9357 I fixed mine! Needed to chang3 the control board. $2o on eBay. “Weekendparty” posted a KZbin video on it

[@maryford4667]

So you missed highlighting the most important aspect of video...did you go buy a replacement thermal fuse? Seems so but you completely left that out other than casually referring to good fuse and bad fuse which would be the most critical point of video that was overlooked. Is there 2 thermal fuses and you just switched them since one is back up? Where did you buy new thermal fuse all important information totally omitted.... otherwise helpful video but only got us halfway there.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes when you’re making a video, there are aspects that seem obvious but it’s not until someone points them out that I realize what is obvious to me is not always obvious to everyone. To answer your questions: There’s only one fuse in my model - but it was pointed out to me that it’s commonly referred to as a fuse, but it’s technically a “high limit”. The parts store where I bought it referred to it as a fuse so it must be common enough that they just know what you need. I believe it was around $30. I do appreciate you taking the time to reply. I want the channel to be as good as possible and this helps me improve.

[@danielh3719]

I replaced my fuse and it worked for half a cleaning cycle and stopped working... ive done that 3 times now... What would cause the dishwasher to keep blowing that fuse??

[@TallFamilyFilms]

In a word - heat. Your pump might be bad, the food grinder could be stuck, or the main circuit board is overheated and burned (this was my case)

[@jessemarin3024]

By chance do you know what kind of specific fuse or is there a universal one? You have the EXACT situation I'm having. Water sitting at the bottom and lights not turning on.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

It’s probably universal in function but they come in different shapes and sizes. I’d check it against the model number. I also saw on KZbin that you can smack the old fuse against the counter to “reset” it. You can also “straight wire” it for a few seconds to make sure it’s the fuse (or check for continuity on the fuse with the multimeter).

[@jessemarin3024]

@@TallFamilyFilms Thank you so much for your feedback! :)

[@Silverhorn2]

Good job, excellent narrative.

[@bigtommills]

Awesome video! unfortunately I have the Kitchen Aid model kdfe204kps0 - and I've taken everything apart, and I'm not able to find the fuse anywhere. Can anyone tell me where the fuse is on this model?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I don’t know that model I think this will help - I was wrong to call it a fuse but it acts like a fuse. It’s sometimes called a limiter or high limiter I am told by others. So, for you, go the searspartsdirect.com and put in your model number. Then search for your model and start looking at the diagrams. It will definitely be in the door or control panel diagram. I saw there is a thermal fuse for your model but I’m not sure if that’s your problem. Once you have a part number, check eBay. Your fuse part was W11397505

[@kennyg6482]

I took mine apart. The high limit like yours is under the tub on mine and I checked it and it is fine. I would assume it is my control panel or the circuit board. Not sure how to test to see if they are good. I have a Kenmore Elite Model 665.14743N510

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Take a close look at the control board. Usually (but not always) a capacitor is swelled when they fail. I’ve had decent luck buying the capacitors from Mouser and soldering them if you’re good with that kind of thing.

[@rid1coza]

Great video but i have a different issue, my dishwasher has a rotary switch to power it on and select a program. In it's off position it will randomly just power itself on multiple times a day, fortunately it doesnt do a wash by itself as there is a physical button to start the program. I guess i just need to replace the board but hoping there is a simpler fix out here on youtube.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I haven’t had one like that in a while so I won’t be much help. Good luck!

[@tammybaker4378]

All I did was open it to puta knife in it ..and then it did turn on again. Breaker box was checked….it’s fine. What happened?..

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Sadly, it sounds like a problem you’re going to see again before this is over

[@venkatraman8242]

Not related to my doubt😮

[@marcuspetersen5148]

Did you actually replace the fuse after jumping it?

[@marcuspetersen5148]

nevermind

[@brianhenry2134]

Their is a capacitor on that board that is bulged also replace the caps on the control board.

[@TruongLe-eo8kh]

Mine same model. No light but response to touch. When I press and hold down the start button it will start wash cycle.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Yours is having a different issue. Check to see if the control board has burnt wires attached to it. Remove the control board and look at the back of it for burn marks. If so, replace the board.

[@paulb9769]

So what caused the problem to begin with?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

In my case, the main circuit board was dying and overheating

[@brianthorn8291]

Well done mate for showing showing this,I’m going to give it a try and let you know how I got on.

[@crztrn1]

thank you for saving me a lot of money, mine had same results 😀

[@merrieleiderman1885]

Curious if you had a power outage that caused the fuse to blow. My dishwasher has lost all power following a storm with power outage a few weeks ago. This seems to be a likely solution.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I did not have an outage but this is the cheapest thing to start with. There are other videos on KZbin that show how to “reset” the fuse so you could try that for free. Read the comments below near those videos to see other tips on how to do it.

[@redrock1963]

We had a power outage - My Bosch DW now accepts water but wont heat - the timer works but the system does not do a wash cycle - water just sits there until you hit reset. I'm hoping it's a fuse that effects in this way instead of a total power loss as in this vid.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

@@redrock1963 so, many months after I this video, I had the problem you describe. I researched it and in my case it was a burned logic board (the main board where the fuse is located). However, I saw other things that could cause it in my research. One was a jammed chopper the prevents the wash motor from turning and the other is failed wash motor. Since yours is after an outage it might have zapped the motor.

[@hunter8dare]

What is the model of the dishwasher in your video? I have the same one but can't find the model number on the unit.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

KUDSO3FTSS1

[@falseprofit1573]

Dude you saved me thanks a lot for this video

[@Oscar99929]

Great video but what made the fuse blow? Was it the glass in the shredder?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

I believe it was the glass. But the unit is 15 hrs old :)

[@davedube1148]

I replaced the fuse in my dishwasher and it blew again. I bought two fuses and used the second one to drain it. It's twelve years old so I bought another one. Oh well had to try to fix it at least.

[@TallFamilyFilms]

That’s unfortunate. You could use a multimeter to determine the amperage draw across that link. Clearly, something is drawing a high amount of amperage for it to blow like that. In my case, the logic board itself was deteriorating and causing excess heat. You could look at yours and see if you see any obvious black marks on it.

[@davedube1148]

@@TallFamilyFilms Thanks for the advice.

[@apatel7787]

What was specs on that jumper wire? Any electrical wire will do?

[@TallFamilyFilms]

Any wire should do for this test.

[@Mistressillyanna]

Er...think I'll just call someone out incase I burn the house down 😂

[@TallFamilyFilms]

You can do this!

[@elainewilson7523]

ELAINE. WISON. 😃 I got me a dishwasher I love mine I got my dishes in my dishwasher I did cut it on today it's washing now I don't know how to change it I watching you how to do that