Disintegrating in Mid-Air | Deadly Competition Between Concorde and Tupolev (With Real Video)

[@motivase]

The bitter irony is that both supersonic airliners met their fate in the vicinity of Le Bourget. Tu-144 in Goussainville in 1973 and Concorde in Gonesse in 2000. Only 2 km apart from each other.

[@stuartmiller7419]

To be accurate, the 144 'met its fate' when it crashed again in Moscow in 1978. The final straw for Corcordski's protectors. Also, in reality, 9/11 was the final straw for Concorde, not the DC-10 induced crash of the Air France Concorde in 2000.

[@mariemccann5895]

No such thing as a coincidence...

[@grantchallinor5263]

@@stuartmiller7419 To be even more accurate, if you look at the details (which Air France largely successfully kept out of the crash report) Air France itself and the actions of the flight crew on that fateful day were probably as much a factor in the Concorde crash as the metal strip left on the runway by the DC-10. John Hutchinson's examination of the accident is probably the most detailed, knowledgeable, impartial and trustworthy account available.

[@07foxmulder]

That’s not irony.

[@froggy251]

Damn

[@gary1961]

A big shout out to Tommy Florez for his video of the flights way before the days of i-phones or camcorders.

[@rnsteve2265]

Hell yea

[@davesaunders3334]

WTF is an "i-phone"?

[@T0mmy_Fl0r3z]

Greetings!

[@rnsteve2265]

@@T0mmy_Fl0r3z Is this "the" Tommy Florez?

[@zoyalis1487]

@@T0mmy_Fl0r3z OMFG!!!! It's you or it's him lol? If so, incredibly amazing footage. If the name is coincidental, sorry for disturbing you.

[@dx1450]

The Concorde's demo flight may have been "mediocre," but at least it landed in one piece. "Just wait until you see us fly, then you'll see something." Those words were darkly prophetic, just not in the way he intended.

[@rayirth.upside-down]

They knew they were gonna die and did a dark humor

[@maddocentertainment8856]

Maybe we should promote this to the ten greatest f++++ in the world. "What the f. I just said several minutes ago!" Or just to the greatest (fail) words before perishing!

[@parkebyron5132]

These are public transportation jets, not military grade fighter jets. Not even specific built acrobatic aircraft. The "mediocre" comment is pure stupidity.

[@adamdelarozza1985]

It was a counterfeit and preformed as such.

[@itellyouforfree7238]

i mean, what did you expect? they were russian boasting idiots

[@nancykaufmann3993]

I don’t know a thing about flying a plane but got hooked on these videos at the start of the pandemic and now look forward to each new one. So realistic, educational and yet respectful. Thank you for all your excellent work, TFC!

[@ForecastingBrid]

@road of snooker finals looking for attention from the guy who creates these? Lmfao grow a pair

[@omni4D]

@road of snooker finals bruh dont have to cry like a baby let him do what he wants to do, at least he doesn't flat out not make videos, and plus he used to reply and heart comments and took suggestions of the community, people have personal lives and TFC could be busy, so grow up.

[@helloworlddotjar5343]

@road of snooker finals there's something called the internet, yknow you can look things up.. and there's a thing called a simulator, you should look that up too oh there's also a thing called shut the fuck up and mind your own business, definitely the best thing out there. try it yourself!

[@kamyagupta4030]

yes

[@russdy1982]

@road of snooker finals you sound like the sort of person that, if you saw someone famous, would run up and get in their face for attention. Chill out the comments section is for us, the content creator is far too busy researching, recreating and producing these videos to engage in constant conversation. It doesn’t sound like you fully appreciate or understand the immense amount of work that goes into these videos.

[@eezyclsmooth9035]

"Pushing The Envelope ", EVERY single aircraft ever built, from the Wright Brothers to the Space Shuttle Has stress limitations . Some pilots ignore them.

[@michaelamick8295]

Many, seemingly, just forget details while under stress and perform otherwise proper actions out of order. Those who survive most usually learn from the mistakes of others.

[@IAmNotARobotPinkySwear]

Yea. I used to want to be a fighter pilot or a test pilot or an astronaut growing up, always wanting to be on the pushing edge. Then life got in the way. Then youtube comes out. Then I watch things like Adam Air 574 CVR. The realization of "ok these are man made things prone to stress and repetitive use" starts to sink in. Then i realize, I'm really really glad I didn't follow my childhood dreams. Should still get back into general aviation though, I miss flying.

[@jt-eb4sp]

They had to uphold the image of Mother Russia, which they did.

[@thegolfdude]

It's not really about ignoring them, it's about "holy shit we're going to crash." That's like worrying about the roach you had in your ashtray as your car flies off a cliff.

[@DonKelleyMusic]

There was a bug in the software that caused the sudden dive, because they had never tested the plane without the 5 degree limitation in place. Poor management was the issue, not the flying.... probably.

[@tarmacpounder785]

Soviet/Russian pilots have been providing high drama and spectacle to the air show circuit for years with their over-the-top display routines. I personally witnessed an An-32 crew perform a touch and go with one engine feathered-downwind at that, and an An-72 crew roll their wings well past vertical pulling out of a low pass. The Su-27 display that followed, flown by no less than Viktor Pugachev, was spectacular but those two transport category aircraft routines were downright scary. The Soviets can blame the French Mirage all they want but this Tu-144 crash was another case of a hold-my-beer moment going terribly sideways.

[@markwillies4330]

That's wot vodka can do- give you dutch courage Or maybe the pilots children were at the controls

[@slabriprock5329]

@@markwillies4330 I understood that reference.

[@Fred82ndAbn]

A penis measuring competition gone wrong for sure.

[@choughed3072]

@@Fred82ndAbn most of them do sadly.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@Fred82ndAbn especially when one of them goes limp

[@inkypinky643]

I remember being told once, 'There are old pilots, bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.'

[@CMDRFandragon]

Col. Robin Olds? Even though he actually passed of old age in like 2008 or something.

[@billirvin9057]

@@CMDRFandragon Just my opinion but Gen Olds was one of the last real combat leaders my USAF had.

[@jeffreymcneal1507]

@@billirvin9057 Here's another one: "Superior pilots use their superior knowledge to avoid getting into situations that require their superior ability."

[@poohbeartube]

Robin Olds is an impressive exception which is why he's famous. While serving in the USMC I taught a motorcycle defense driving course. A well known adage is "You've either gone down or you're going down". Obviously it is meant to inspire alertness, sobriety, and respect for the vulnerability and conditions while riding.

[@johncox2865]

That quote belongs to motocross racers

[@MARSRigel1]

Fun Fact: both the Tupolev and the Concord are displayed behind each other on the roof of the "Technik Museum" Sinsheim, Germany. As seen in 13:34, an actual photo from the said Tupolev, you are able to go inside said aircrafts.

[@superdude3112]

That’s so cool

[@DSGTravelTV]

Fun fact: both went down in Paris 27 years apart...both crash sites are quite close

[@wardogies]

There is a concord on display at the intrepid air and space museum in New York City

[@Likeusb1]

Yep. Visited it, quite an amazing place tbh.

[@neillp3827]

@@wardogies and at raf Duxford

[@leslietaylor4458]

Everyone saying "if they had not done that"... "if they had just followed protocol" You have to remember the Soviet mindset back in the 60s and 70s... "We must be the best or we die trying" It was all for the glory of Mother Russia

[@IntrovertedOreo]

Insert USSR national anthem 😂

[@amoslukyaa5792]

What was wrong with that? You're talking as if the west didn't harbour that kind of mentality of beating USSR at all cost - if you still think the Mirage jet fighter was chasing Russian TU-144 concordisk for simply taking photo of the canard, you better think twice - the rivalry between French/ British built Concorde and Russian TU-144 were so great - west would have attempted anything under the SUN to sabotage Russian built TU-144 - mirage fighter jet crossing suddenly in front of TU-144 flight path was deliberate done to cause an accident.

[@BaronLemon]

This wasn't just during the cold war, it was pretty much always like this with Russians.

[@paulm749]

The problem isn't that those Soviets died trying, but that they maimed and killed innocent civilians on the ground when they crashed their plane. They were demonstrating all the maturity of teenage boys given the keys to a high-performance car, and the results were predictable. The story about the Mirage fighter somehow being to blame is a smokescreen - the Soviets own this tragedy.

[@arcanondrum6543]

You know what's funnier? Boeing could only Bill us for the 2707. It never left the ground. That's good though. Mach flight over land is banned for good reason (but hey, "screw you Whales" because some clown needs to get laid while on business in Europe then watch his kid suck at Little League in NY, you know; "family man", "really cares").

[@carolinehoward180]

I wish I’d travelled on Concorde before it went out of service. Where I lived in the UK we would get the sonic boom rattle the windows twice a day. Some people even lost roof tiles! Amazing aircraft 🖤

[@ShalomShalom-d5c]

Me too.

[@danmccauley80]

Concord will be back in another form very soon

[@SteveLombardi58]

I flew on the Air France one, NY to CDG. Best flight I ever took.

[@carolinehoward180]

@@SteveLombardi58 Lucky man!!! 👍

[@jasonshuster4748]

I lived in Rosedale Queens which is next to JFK airport I miss seeing her land and takeoff.

[@julosx]

6 years after that crash I started going to junior high school. One of my classmates there told me that his father was a volunteer fireman and that he was called of this particular day of 1973 to assist the wounded. What he saw wasn't pretty but he never told much.

[@IntrovertedOreo]

Probably seen some gnarly burnt up body parts 🤮 that's why I can never do first responder work.

[@dougdoug9223]

Must have been gross. Yikes!

[@RS-cd9cf]

Your story contributes no details and is basically useless

[@ianhudson2193]

The cockpit and crew ended up in the basement of the building where it landed...

[@theanteaterparadox344]

@@RS-cd9cf Absolutely commendable, that you take the time and effort to evaluate posts. I hope your cynical urge for whatever it is you're looking for will subside. Narcissists are so 2016.....

[@mercator79]

well, Tupolev's demonstration was memorable... I will give them that.

[@reaper_delta177]

albeit deadly

[@mixedboi]

Nice pun over 6 perished souls

[@DEP717]

@@mixedboi Agreed, a terrible cost, along with those hurt and killed on the ground.

[@siriak69]

I was there. I was a child and my father and I were unfortunately able to experience this tragedy live. I even recovered a small piece of metal, it was everywhere because it disintegrated in flight.

[@RockandRollWoman]

So sorry you had to witness that.

[@Thyproduct]

Make it a giveaway

[@Harold003]

Do you still have that piece?

[@ARFFWorld]

Rough Day for the firefighters on this one. Great Video as always 1) Aircraft crash has to be extinguished and searched for survivors. 2) Multiple houses on fire that need to be extinguished and searched for victims. 3) Medical treatment and transport for all those on the ground injured as well 4) Weeks long on scene investigating what happened and what went wrong.

[@zoyalis1487]

15 houses. Hard to imagine.

[@ARFFWorld]

@@zoyalis1487 They must of been really close together, or one hell of a crash

[@preparedsurvivalist2245]

Not sure if having airplanes fly against each other to push the limits of their performance strictly for bragging rights is prudent.

[@HandFromCoffin]

and it's not like it's 2 companies.. it's the East vs. West in the middle of the Cold War... They should have both agreed to fly a similar, fun yet tame pre-agreed upon flight route to avoid any issues like this.

[@hhn2002]

not sure flying like birds through the sky against natures design is prudent.

[@leslietaylor4458]

You are forgetting how the Soviet mind works

[@3sierra15]

Who wants, "He was prudent, " on his tombstone? Rather, be memorable.

[@jimb12312]

@Andreas Glad Innocent families were killed on the ground. They didn't sign up to participate in this stupid reckless game.

[@Surv1ve_Thrive]

My respects to the people of Goussainville. I live near Shoreham, Sussex which saw its own (avoidable) air crash disaster. Also sadly a Concorde crashed at Paris CDG in 2000. Air France 4590.

[@dinono10]

Hi neighbour I'm in Brighton and I remember that crash on the Saturday quite well. Was working for bha football club and the ko was delayed due to the airshow disaster

[@leob4403]

Do the assholes that run these airshows even ask the people living there if they want to have these high risk events close to their homes? The families of the ground fatalities should get huge payouts as far as Im concerned

[@Sideshowbob24]

I've always been curious how this crash played out. This video is beyond the perfection I was looking for. Keep it up!

[@6x.justin]

😃

[@tc83s]

I didn't even know this plane disentegrated in mid-air, horrifying... At least only 6 people perished (and 8 on the ground), because, if it crashed into a more populated area and had passengers, the casulties could've been *much worse* .

[@seltaeb9691]

Unlike the planes.

[@seltaeb9691]

@@tc83s Concorde copy & usual Tuppy standards. I'd never travel in a Russian airline Boeing or not. Their maintenance is poor & they are due a crash. It's been very quiet everywhere after a bad 10yrs. French pilots are not that good. Arrogance to blame.

[@3RTracing]

sadly the flight channel did not due their true to form video depiction of the mid air disintegration but instead inaccurately showed the Tu nosing into the ground. Very disappointing and not their usual manner of truly representing an aircraft failure, crash or collision.

[@alanhigh8125]

You just can't fly an airliner--any airliner--like a fighter plane. The simpler wing design made the aircraft less stable at slow speed. The cannards were designed to compensate, but a technical glitch caused them to incorrectly deploy after the angle limiter was disengaged. If the Soviets hadn't disabled the 5 degree cannard limiter, and the pilot hadn't tried to fly the airliner like a MiG, the crash wouldn't have happened. 🤦

[@leslietaylor4458]

To the soviets, they must be bigger, tougher, bolder and stronger, and if they die, they do so with the honor Mother Russia

[@zoyalis1487]

Had to have been for adrenaline lovers? I'd never survive that take off as a passenger. Very interesting story though, I'd never heard of it. Sad ending.

[@ursodermatt8809]

and is the habit of the russians, they will blame the west for the accident and has nothing to so with their design and pilot

[@amoslukyaa5792]

@@ursodermatt8809 Technically we now know what really happened,it wasn't a design flaw - Russian Pilots and Engineers were very eager to impress the spectators consequently they disabled a very critical mechanism controlling canard angle ending up exceeding allowable angle which resulted the plane to stall.

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

Tell that to the Soviets, who had a habit of turning their bombers into airliners (including the TU-95 itself) and generally acting like Kerbals (An-225, anybody?)

[@b.chuchlucious5471]

"Tupolev won't make the same mistake twice." - Capt Ramius

[@drsevrin100]

There is only room in Tupolev's heart for Tupolev.

[@jonathankleinow2073]

@@drsevrin100 You arrogant ass! You've killed us!

[@kurtiskaskowski5386]

One like only please.

[@rext8949]

Anybody who repeats a mistake is a fool who hasn't learned.

[@henkyagusleo3761]

We're going to kill a friend, Yevgeni. We're going to kill Ramius.

[@peterkoln2837]

There are a TU 144 and a Concorde at the Sinsheim Technical Museum, Germany. Both well mounted to show their elegance. You can see both planes from the motorway. Good old memories, dear TFC! Thanks for another brilliant video.

[@donnebes9421]

I once saw a porn video were the female was well mounted.

[@daffodildeb]

Peter, that is a fantastic museum! We really enjoyed visiting, and my primary reason was to see the TU-144. Ah, but there was so much more. We spent hours there, and wished we had more time!

[@intouchkhaoviset9155]

Ich war da schon mal

[@TheFrewah]

I had no idea. How interesting!

[@scottscott232]

I live very close to Heathrow, and remember as a teenager in 1981, observing the Concorde coming in to land at Heathrow, with a low pass over our buildings. The windows and doors used to shake; but what an amazing sight to behold as it passed over.

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

You tell a compelling story each time, and you didn't miss with this one!

[@d.schoepflin2247]

I just wish the story was in words spoken! It would make this video even better!

[@2manybooks2littletime25]

@@d.schoepflin2247 I think that the silence is more respectful of the dead and badly injured. Just my opinion.

[@6x.justin]

Hi

[@respectdawildo_danjones508]

EEE Wawaw

[@justanotherguy469]

He missed telling that the Concorde also crashed which caused the company to fold.

[@watershed44]

*I particularly feel so much sympathy for the towns people of Goussainville in France, they had no idea what was coming, my condolences to the families of the souls in the town that lost their lives as well, as the souls on board the plane.*

[@WeaselKing1000]

If you're interested in this place and its relationship with being right under the airport flightpaths, I can recommend this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/enXCcn5vlMdrmKM&ab_channel=TheTimTraveller

[@watershed44]

@@WeaselKing1000 Thanks for the reply. I'll watch that video soon!

[@krashd]

They lived directly next to an airport hosting an air show, I would suspect that anyone in the town who was not at work would have been sitting in their gardens watching a free air show with a glass of wine. Of all of the people in towns and cities that have had planes crash into and kill them the occupants of Goussainville were likely the least surprised in history to watch that aircraft coming towards them...

[@leob4403]

@@krashd do they atleast get insurance payouts for their fallen family members? If I lived close to an airport I would certainly move out first chance I got, especially if they were hosting airshows

[@svetlanaisayeva2624]

@watershed44 I would add the souls that survived but, probably, lost their limbs to the list as well. I mean there were people severely injured on the ground.

[@ryandavis7593]

A cocky attitude in the cockpit only serves to kill the cock flying the bird. Read it as you will. But truly this is the case. Pilot error is the most common cause of crashes both being cocky in risky conditions, forcing a plane beyond its design, or just being complacent. Never be complacent and know your conditions as limitations.

[@WendyKS93]

I knew about the Concorde but somehow never knew about the existence of Tupolev TU-144, so I am really glad to have seen this video and learn about this heartbreaking tragedy. Both planes were of stunning design and magnificently beautiful. It truly is very sad to see that beautiful plane crash. It doesn't matter what country it belonged to, it was quite an achievement for aviation in general. Yes, maybe there was cockiness and arrogance that day but let us not forget human lives were lost and many others injured. Thank you Flight Channel for bringing this story to us. A bit of history I didn't know about.

[@holdenafart5241]

These are gut wrenchingly sad, scary, and I'm terrified of flying yet have seen every video the last 3 years. Great work again

[@Igetrackz]

Worst part is watching these before your flight :(

[@privatepilot4064]

And yet cars are the most dangerous mode of transportation. Flying is safer than any ground transportation. It’s a statistical fact. So go on buy that ticket and see the world!

[@DrAntonio77]

)m

[@rext8949]

@@Igetrackz In fact you should be scared as a commuter in an auto - the stats are overwhelmingly against them comparatively.

[@firun2635]

Seeing those vids reassures me. Everything you see here is a mistake / oversight that will not repeat (or is, at least, extremely unlikely to). The current high level of safety of air travel is built on these mishaps.

[@wmc5431]

I hope people will recall that the members of the flight crew were human beings and had families, friends and loved ones. This was hardly the first, and likely not the last plane to go down in an airshow, so, as the Aviation industry is so fond of saying, "We learn from our mistakes." Soviet or Western, the Concorde/TU-144 were both beautiful planes, and there's as much to be learned in how they did things differently, as there is in their similarities.

[@jimb12312]

Reckless clowns who played stupid games and crashed into houses killing innocent families

[@Benji-jj2bg]

@Jim Beans And still, they were better men than youll ever be.

[@bbmtge]

A most stupid comment. A complete unwillingness to view a situation critically. Congrats on you emotional immaturity.

[@bbmtge]

@@Benji-jj2bg Would that be the one that crashed the plane causing death and destruction?

[@Benji-jj2bg]

@@bbmtge yup. That one indeed is a much better man than any of the trolls who sit on KZbin all day just to judge others.

[@gaztastic]

"Just wait until you see us fly. Then you'll see something." - Tu-144 Captain Mikhail Kozlov

[@gary1961]

He wasn't wrong.

[@gily3344]

Boy, he sure showed us.

[@2puffs770]

YUP. That was something to see.

[@edwardspaccarelli5944]

Not what he had in mind.

[@markhamstra1083]

Yes, quite an impressive flight demonstration - just not a good impression.

[@borninjordan7448]

"Just wait until you see us fly. Then you'll see something". He was right.

[@evs251]

LOL🤣💀💀💀

[@danpinckley3318]

Again hold my beer

[@kevinmalone3210]

Yeah, and then some. Hubris has been known to end up with deadly consequences.

[@MrChopsticktech]

The video failed to mention that the French shortened the performance time of the Tu-144 in order to reduce its presence compared to the Concorde.

[@MikeGervasi]

It's sad that the Concorde isn't around anymore. I can't imagine going from the US to London in a couple of hours.

[@akseli9]

2 hours from JFK to Heathrow by plane then 2 hours from Heathrow to London by car 😂

[@zyglo9826]

@Mike Gervasi I can’t imagine who would NEED to go from the US to London in 2 hours…except maybe the rich and famous for whom money is no problem and who love to flaunt their wealth. “Hey look at me, I’m a movie star and I can afford to spend several thousand dollars to get to London a few hours faster.” I love airplanes just as much as the next guy…but supersonic air travel proved itself to be impractical and unaffordable except for the one-percenters.

[@TheWahyuwirawan]

With a price of a car or even a house by today's money. We are still hoping the next gen supersonic flight with more reasonable fuel consumption so the fare would not be too high and still affordable by the majority not only from a jetset club of people

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@TheWahyuwirawan Have you not heard of the reset? No travel for you.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

How about an hour and change? SR-71 enters the conversation.

[@MarkiusFox]

The TU-144 did however serve successfully as an air mail aircraft for some time, and one was leased for use by NASA to research super sonic properties in the twilight of it's service history.

[@naulahka1]

When you say successfully, it made nine mail runs only.

[@flybobbie1449]

@@naulahka1 He means survived. The thing was noisy, thirsty and i think generally disliked. I bet the wing design records were at Bristol,so didn't fall into spy hands. Russia had to second guess the wing design. Shows by adding the canard and couldn't super cruise.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@flybobbie1449 exactly, if they had the designs it wouldn't be the pile of shit it actually was.

[@thexchox1554]

@@flybobbie1449 The BAC and Aérospatiale design team actually said the canards would have been great for the Concorde. Even today they said if they went back they would have put them on the Connie’s.

[@flybobbie1449]

@@thexchox1554 But they didn't, did they. They fitted chin vortex generators though.

[@sgreen0000]

RIP to all affected by the crash. 💔😢🙏🏻❤️

[@Sissy-tp7yz]

Amen. That's very respectful to say after such a horrific disaster. Thank You Sheryl G. Bless you for your comment.

[@kermitthefraud700]

They weren't all good people; that's the silver lining to any disaster.

[@ilnaz95]

One of the rare few 144's is right outside my window - a monument in the front yard of the Kazan Aviation Institute. I look at it everyday - its truly magnificent. Everlasting memory to those who perished in that horrible incident and to comrade Tupolev

[@watershed44]

@Alex Shand2.0 Do you know of "Skyships" channel? He did a video from the Kazan Aviation Institute!

[@ilnaz95]

@@watershed44 never heard of it, but will check it out. Thanks!

[@ididyermom3273]

Air shows shouldn't be about impressing anymore as they are constantly disastrous.

[@damedusa5107]

Then what’s the point

[@bBersZ]

@@leeleecassidy7175 I bet you and OP are a blast to hang out with. Just copious amounts of barrels jammed packed full of crazy fun. Youd have to go to the Dr. to get a good time enema and funoscopy to get rid of all that fun after a hanging out with a couple party animals like you two! A couple crazy fun time having people is what you all are I tells ya

[@texleeger8973]

@@bBersZ Rude.

[@damedusa5107]

@@leeleecassidy7175 then not many would watch. Very simple

[@staz3014]

@@texleeger8973 cry about it

[@cavaliernumide4023]

I'm from Goussainville and the memory of this tragedy is still very present in the minds

[@danorthsidemang3834]

Simply admitting to the world that you are from someplace called Goussainville is a tragedy in itself

[@johndoyle4723]

Wow, another great video, thanks. Eventually the Concorde also crashed after taking off in France,very sad day, and although the Concorde flew again, its days were numbered. The frontal video of the Concorde in flight looks like a giant bird of prey. Sadly I never got to fly Concorde, but I did at least board one, it was tiny inside compared with modern day long haul wide body planes.

[@IntrovertedOreo]

I take it they went out of business because passengers got spooked from taking flights on it from the crash or because of general business failings? I would assume the latter.

[@johndoyle4723]

@@IntrovertedOreo There were many reasons why the fleet was taken out of service, but it was still popular with those who could afford it. I recall that Virgin wanted to take over the fleet from BA, but BA declined. The planes wer quite old, very expensive to operate, fuel and maintenance. They were also very noisy, which limited their routes, and they were very limited in the seats. For many years the US refused the Concorde permission to fly because of the noise.

[@rossbrown6641]

Must you say the infuriating WOW!?

[@johndoyle4723]

@@rossbrown6641 Must you use the infuriating exclamation mark, and translate my comment into capitals, implying I am shouting. Perhaps just comment on the video, not my comments.

[@wardbauer3229]

hi by y hi hi

[@patolt1628]

Sadly, the pilots broke their aircraft due to excessive mechanical constraints. Some remarks: First: unlike what it's said in the video the presentation of the Concorde was "fighter style" and not that bad according to specialists. Second: there was for sure a tremendous pressure on the Tupolev pilot to impress everybody. Third: I know the story of the Mirage chasing the Tu144: it seems that a Mirage was indeed in the area, according to radar recordings, but not that close to trigger a violent reaction from the Tupolev which would have caused the crash. The witnesses have never seen any Mirage: if it was a near-miss event, it would have been visible, even on the films showing the crash. At last "photographing the plane's canards" doesn't make any sense: this chase plane should have been very close which was not the case and why photographing something that was even visible at close range and during the presentation using a telephoto lens? Anyway R.I.P for all crew members and the fatalities on the ground My opinion.

[@lightsaberlordp373]

The crash had shocked 250,000 people including Aleksei Tupolev, the man responsible for designing the supersonic aircraft!!!

[@patolt1628]

@@lightsaberlordp373 Yes, for sure

[@deanladue3151]

Only thing I can think of was that something about the design or deployment of the canards that could only be seen when the TU-144 was airborne. Otherwise the French Mirage had no reason to be up there.

[@patolt1628]

@@deanladue3151 You're right but nobody said that the Mirage were there "because of the Tupolev" ... and even though, to see something "interesting" about the canards he would have been obliged to fly in close formation and that's not what happened. That's the main point: I obviously don't know all the cold war dirty tricks but I really don't see what information could have been obtained from a fighter in the middle of an airshow, including with regards to the canards which were not a national secret. Note that there are some airbases not that far from Paris from which a Mirage could have just flown a mission without any relation with the Paris Air Show. There was also a Test Centre in Brétigny, not very far from Le Bourget where the operations were not frozen: the country doesn't stop every two years because of this event. Last but least: the Soviets were spying the Concorde, not the other way around. Regarding the canards they have not even been contemplated for the Concorde which didn't need them due to a better design of the wings. Indeed the aim of the canards was to compensate the bad behaviour of the Tupolev wings at low speeds since they were optimized for supersonic flight. This was not the case at all on the Concorde. Last assumption: a mistake from "a" Mirage unaware that he was on a collision course with the Tupolev ... Well: military operations were not stopped in France but even the stupidest man in the area would have been aware of the Paris Airshow and ... not a fighter pilot? Anyway I'm just very sceptical about the idea that, should a Mirage have flown in the area, it would have been so close to the Tupolev to be the cause of the accident, nothing more. By the way, ask yourself the question: who had the most interest in this "Mirage hypothesis"?

[@deanladue3151]

@@patolt1628 it's also a good bet that intelligence agencies from other countries (CIA, MI-6) were in attendance at the demonstration, and were also seeking information on the TU-144s canards. Another possible reason the Mirage was in the area. It's also interesting that both French and Soviet governments worked in conjunction to keep any additional information being made public.

[@ronstowell8646]

If there was ever a "hold my beer" moment......Soviet Union is the champ.

[@dipanwitamandal7289]

Never compete with concorde.

[@arcanondrum6543]

@@dipanwitamandal7289 ....said the Boeing 2707.

[@CH-pv2rz]

@Arc Anon Drum quit whining like a B1TCH on every post. There never was a Boeing 2707. No taxpayer money was spent on it either. Both prototypes were canceled before completion . Only a mockup was ever built. Funding was withdrawn and the prototype work remained unfunded.

[@lightsaberlordp373]

@@dipanwitamandal7289 Concordski was the first plane to reach Mach 2 before the concorde but it was extremely unreliable!!!!

[@zyglo9826]

@Ron Stowell a close contender was the crew of the A-320 at the Paris air show…”watch us show you what Airbus engineering can accomplish”… RIP the demo crew.

[@richardjimmink4647]

My father was at the Paris air show that year and knew the crew of the TU-144 quite well. He was scheduled to be on the demo flight during the show. The day before the flight, they told him they were having some problems and had to cancel his being on that flight. He had a brochure of the TU-144 signed by the entire crew the day before they died.

[@AnneEloiseOfCNY]

That's sad, scarey, and ultimately a remarkable twist of fate for your father, you, and your family. Wow!

[@TheFrewah]

A valuable piece of history. Make sure it never gets lost.

[@RJ6AV6]

what a kick ass episode, thank everyone involved and sucks what happened but they were definitely ahead of their time flying that beast, respect 👍

[@komi-origami]

As a french guy, i can tell you that the Concorde was a creation french government was extremely proud of

[@southstands303]

These videos well made. The music is very touching and the music is fitting.

[@jannahjohnymuhammad9172]

TU 144 WAS A BEAUTIFUL BEAST

[@darrencourtney7510]

Them Soviets had gotten a bit over-confident in their structural processes. The TU-144 sure had some cockpit window blockages. Something always looked off about this plane to me (must be those mustache things). I bet the Russian designer in the crowd knew the pilots were over-stressing the airframe. Damn shame.

[@markrenton1093]

"There bold pilots and there are old pilots but there are no old bold pilots"Bob Collins , former voice of WGN radio , Chicago.

[@apostleverde]

The late, great, "Uncle Bobby!" ...who, ironically, died in a plane crash (midair collision, the other pilot's fault.)

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Cpt Eric Winkle Brown, arguably greatest UK pilot, died aged 97. Look him up, his life is the stuff of legend

[@markrenton1093]

@@apostleverde , YOU KNOW UNCLE BOB!He was a class act , I remember leaving for work the day he died on the radio, it was ironic.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

Not entirely true - but "old bold" pilots are bloody RARE.

[@markrenton1093]

@@bricefleckenstein9666 , you get the point though.

[@darrenh2693]

I've been hoping for a while you would cover this one! It's a fascinating story with conspiracies and one-upmanship. Great job!

[@toonraider7041]

I'd love to see you do the Guangzhou Baiyun runway collisions. It's such a strange story, not a lot of information, but video footage of it exists! It's such a weird incident!

[@daleplucknett278]

Vision of the Tu-144 flying reminds me of the old adage " just because you can doesn't mean you should", the consequences show that vividly.

[@arthurdirindinjr1792]

Read repeatedly that the Concord never made money and in fact always operated at a loss but was kept in service courtesy of Fench/UK subsidies.

[@flybobbie1449]

Towards end operated at profit, but the airlines were given the aircraft.

[@alexandradane3672]

The Flight Channel is the only responsible and educated channel for accident and crash reports . The rest of those which I have seen , are amateur by comparison and irresponsible. IMO . I am very grateful to TFC and hugely appreciate the detailed work, time and effort which clearly goes into the videos. A very big …thank you.

[@davevalens9918]

The Concorde was 1 very beautiful bird. I always used to enjoy seeing it land whenever it came by my neighborhood when I was a teenager. Damn were they ever so loud.

[@dulguunjargal1199]

Shoutout to the camera man for going into creative mode to film this

[@2puffs770]

Fancy explanation for "We fucked up" May the crew and all that died on the ground as a result of this fatal flight RIP

[@cotton-Dave]

In the end that is what really matters, isn't it?

[@mariekatherine5238]

No one can accuse them of false advertising. The performance was truly unforgettable!

[@WyteRabit]

Sad that the desire to "show up" the competition, resulted in a fatal crash. Seems that Soviet pilots aren't much better than Soviet drivers when it comes to operating their vehicles.

[@krashd]

It was cold war prestige, Britain and France were part of NATO so this was just another "east versus west" competition where the Soviets could show the people back home which side was best.

[@bobwiley6221]

A classic case of the pilot saying, "Hey, watch this!" Quickly followed by "Oh SHIT!!!"

[@Aditya-rr2hu]

I've been watching you for 3+ years and you've never disappointed me once. Now that's consistency.

[@chloescat]

Thank you for another amazing video and thank you Tommy Flórez for the superb footage!

[@AnneEloiseOfCNY]

Dear Video Creator, I just discovered your channel. I've watched about 10 videos. I know nothing technical about planes or flying. But I am picking up a few things because you explain well and use arrows to show us plane parts about which you are explaining. So I sure know where to look for flaps now! I want to thank you greatly for all the time and effort you put into making each video. You have a quality product. It is obviously a labor of love. Since right now it is 2 days after Christmas 2022, I wish you a very Merry Christmas Season and a Happy New Year! ✨🌹☃️📯🌟🧑‍🎄🎀🎄🎵🎁💝👼👼🎶🎊❤️👨‍✈️🧑‍✈️🌎✈️🛩️🛫🛬

[@cliftonsargent1572]

Can’t imagine the people at home maybe watching there kids play or just holding hands with your girl maybe telling her how much you love her and in a flash you’re dead, what a crazy rock hurling threw space we live on

[@robsmithracing]

TU-144 suffered a structural failure due to overstressing. Luckily the pilots of Concorde knew it’s limits and didn’t need to prove anything.

[@cesarmendivil1990]

Waiting for the video on the airplane with those skydivers, from a couple of days ago. It´s gonna be a good one. :)

[@rhodesshah4603]

The Concorde’s flight was “mediocre” so the pilot should have performed inverted flights or perhaps ‘cobra’ style near vertical manoeuvre’s?

[@iconicshrubbery]

A controversial caption indeed. By whose criteria was it "mediocre"? Perhaps it was just 'normal' and 'within safety parameters'.

[@_al1k_]

I really love the opening scenes!! Keep the great work up bro.

[@JohnDoe-lx3vy]

When ego is more important than safety...

[@thunderbird1921]

I've read about this. What a disaster. The Soviets built this plane with multiple flaws out of their determination to get it in the air the same time as Concorde. I wouldn't fly on it for a million dollars. Add in the Soviet pilot's reckless flying, and this was almost guaranteed to happen.

[@CaptainJadenAR]

Indeed. The Concordski is a rip off version of Concorde

[@sparsons83]

As far as I was aware they cut multiple corners to bring it jn to service before Concorde. I heard that one thing they cut was sound deadening to reduce weight - coupled with the engine placement made it deafening inside so passengers did not enjoy the experience.

[@RFSA180]

Weirdly, NASA ended up with the TU-144

[@Novusod]

The TU-144 was actually the superior aircraft but massive egos in the soviet government ruined their own plane. If they flew it within the designed specifications it would have been fine.

[@RFSA180]

@@Novusod to say its a superior aircraft is nonsense. There's no proof to quantify the statement.

[@CycolacFan]

The way that rear landing gear comes down on the 144 is interesting, that can’t have been the initial design so I wonder what problem was solved by designing it like that.

[@Gordanovich02]

Prototype 144 had all four engines together in a single fairing with the landing gear outboard IIRC. Not sure why the landing gear couldn't have been moved further outboard when the engines were split. Outer wing not strong enough maybe? Or just not thick enough to house the gear?

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@@Gordanovich02 Probably not thick enough.

[@killmoreturtles]

Yeah, someone forgot to steal the wheel designs, so they had to ad-lib

[@RobertB56]

Well they got what they wished for it was definitely more spectacular than the the Concorde's demonstration flight.

[@chewar7537]

Sad that these air shows can cause deaths and injuries to people that live close to the airports when things like this happen. RIP to those innocent people.

[@ursodermatt8809]

why? you want them to cause death in a village far distant?

[@melodiefrances3898]

@@ursodermatt8809 if you don't understand why it's sad ... oh why do I bother? Your comment reeks of posturing for the sake of posturing. Smh ...

[@ursodermatt8809]

@@melodiefrances3898 yes, why do you bother? why is it? for the sake of posturing?

[@jaycleoo]

*"Then you'll see something."* The spectators definitely saw something

[@tat2steven810]

famous last words...

[@walterzielinski6654]

Far more to this misleading presentation, the second one l have seen in the past week. I will be entering my reply shortly.

[@Richaag]

Concorde’s flight might have been “mediocre” but those pilots lived to see another day. It’s mind numbing how many pilots throughout the history of aviation have pushed large aircraft beyond their performance parameters and crashed as a result. “Just wait until you see us fly. Then you’ll see something”. That’s a hold my beer moment and those never end well.

[@KONAMAN100]

What a tragedy, and I can imagine what a horror for the housing area where probably they were sitting enjoying prime view of the event. Sickening.

[@pascalchauvet7625]

That was so sad. The loss of life, and the fact that a quarter million people were eyewitness to it

[@pellman12345]

I travel all across the country for work and I'm not sure why find myself watching your videos before every flight. Thank you lol.

[@zoyalis1487]

Wow incredible video. I just can't imagine why a passenger plane would need to be able to perform so many "tricks" though. The steep take off alone was a bit too much for me. They always reminded me of paper planes but in real life. Such a sad and unfortunate ending. I can't imagine how traumatizing this must have been for people that were present and/or directly involved. Condolences for all lives lost.

[@GraveUypo]

never go "hold my beer" in an aircraft. never ends well.

[@FadeToBlack888]

nuance - look up Alaska Airlines Q400!

[@sally2395]

@@FadeToBlack888 There's nothing wrong with the Alaska Airlines q400 they're great planes I fly in them all the time

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@FadeToBlack888 Oh, that guy! Yeah, he was infamous.

[@willevans1471]

Vodka

[@rext8949]

Another one bites the dust - hubris got him. It was the height of the cold War and the Soviets were in a bruising competition with the west especially in the defence and space fields. The Russians beat the Americans with the Sputnik but the Americans overtook them eventually to the moon. The Concordski was a compromised version of the Anglo-French aircraft. The noise level inside the plane was so high you had to write notes to communicate with your co-passengers. The aircraft was bigger and heavier because of the heavier components due to inferior Russian metallurgy.

[@stuco81]

Quite. The Russian 'design' had none of the finesse of the Anglo-French aircraft. Relying more on brute force and power to get it through the air quickly (as was often the case with Russian military aircraft of the period, MiG-25 for example). It was more hammer, compared to Concorde's knife.

[@mikhaili3182]

The landing/takeoff configuration of Tu144 is shown incorrectly. The nose of the cabin was moved to angle down while landing/taking off. This was done to improve visibility and was the most standing out difference with Concord.

[@suspense_comix3237]

Let’s take a moment of silence as we thank the person who recorded the crash and kindly published the footage.

[@scp049leplaguedocter3]

this is all your fault

[@xmiunax4385]

I know it's kinda random but both of those planes looked beautiful to me

[@theycallmetundraboy]

Fantastic editing again, my friend. Loved how you coordinated the words, simulation, and video. 👍

[@tonymcmahon_historybear]

Remember as a kid in the 1970s seeing "Concordski", as everybody called it, breaking up. Twenty years ago, I lived in west London and you would get the boom as Concorde flew overhead in its final years. Very sad that supersonic flight - like manned space flight - was put on hold for so many years. Amazing tech of the post-war era.

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

Being “mediocre” ends up saving your life.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

7:44 The early TU-144 was flying with engines it was not designed for, that were a little underpowered and required afterburner to achieve those power levels causing a lot more fuel consumption as a result. Later models, the "correct" designed engine was finally available, allowing it to fairly closely match the range of the Concord, but it was too late to save the program by then.

[@BoomBox02]

7:07 "Just wait until you see us fly. Then you'll see something" He wasn't kidding. I feel bad for the innocent loss of life, injuries and property damage that was a cause of this crash.

[@waterbird91]

It's a shame this happened. Competition can kill, whether it's cars, speed boats planes or motor bikes there's always a danger lurking. Pilots well educated and this goes and happens. A crying shame. Lost a good pilot because of a design flaw.

[@annbell6453]

Better a mediocre safe landing than an exciting deadly crash, I always say!

[@rtrThanos]

Huge fan of aviation here. I gotta tell you, it never occurred to me to see if actual footage of this incident existed. It happened during a time when photography/video had been around long enough to be commonplace, but the tech wasn’t that great as evidenced by the grainy video here. The only video from this period that interested me (aside from the space race) was of a Valkyrie bomber breaking up after it was struck by another plane. I don’t want to sound too happy about seeing this because people died, but I’m glad that I saw actual footage of the event. Love this channel.

[@TheRatlord74]

Never knew that those little wings were retractable.

[@louiebishop5963]

Absolutely beautifully done with no sludge of patriotism or picking sides. Simple avionics history done perfectly.

[@jcrnda]

The pilot (who used to be a test pilot with the highest military medal of honor) was told to outdo the Concorde no matter what. Tu-144 was rushed into production as a showcase to prove how the Soviets could accomplish anything even though they failed with their moon rocket. There was no real purpose for a supersonic passenger plane in the Soviet Union, as it later became obvious. Tu-144 was plagued by poor built quality, horrible noise inside the aircraft at any speed, lack of flight service and cramped conditions on board, and atrocious fuel economy while only a couple of airports in the entire country could even receive it, let alone service it. There was no real plan to start with, it was built first and then they started thinking how it could be fixed and used (while Concorde could fly at Mach 2 across the Atlantic, Tu-144 had to fly over land). To keep it flying, Aeroflot had to use it as a mail carrier between Moscow and Alma-Ata (Kazakhstan) until another crash ended its service for good.

[@arcanondrum6543]

...and this 11:55 as well.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

Actually, the Soviets needed it more than anyone else - they have longer distances to travel IN their country than most do BETWEEN countries OVER the oceans.

[@shannonrutledge8872]

I am a dedicated viewer but I rarely comment on videos. But this one? It requires a comment. The hauntingly beautiful music was a wonderful choice. The photos/video taken by Tommy Florez are a huge gigantic energy source to keep this video up as much as possible.

[@NikhchansGaming]

"Just wait until you see us fly. Then you will see something " Famous last words

[@arrangrant6037]

I remember seeing this on the news as a kid in the 1970s. In the UK the Russian plane was nicknamed “The Concordski” by the press

[@disusernamebevalid]

The moment I saw Tupolev. I knew I saw enough already.

[@tanker495]

The beggining looks like an trailer to entire f*cking movie that is cinema-only lol

[@alejandrayalanbowman367]

The reason for Concorde's tight turns was an attempt to keep the aircraft within sight of the airport and the spectators.

[@planespottingfargo1174]

I love the ATR in the background of the taxi shots of the concord

[@samdigiorgio4412]

I guess this is a least one case of where a knock off is not as good as the real thing . ...

[@codymidkiff7998]

how is it able to have such a steep AOA on takeoff without stalling? also great video! do you think you could do the marshall university football team plane crash?

[@Chris2745100]

Not much fuel on board...

[@70mavgr]

The aircraft is light with little fuel plus very powerful engines at max thrust.

[@sparsons83]

As above less fuel and also very low payload as no passengers and luggage allowing for a greater angle of attack. Since the only people on board are test pilots and engineers they are less concerned about passenger comfort so can also push closer to the limits.

[@r0cketplumber]

Low aspect ratio delta wings produce a large, powerful vortex which allows flight at high AOA with high Cl, but at the cost of high drag.

[@BassSuperPower]

Afterburners