DISNEY Dreamlight Valley. This Is How Free-to-Play Could Look Like...

What would DISNEY Dreamlight Valley look like as Free-to-Play, do we really want that? Reddit is actually much less toxic than twitter when it comes to DDV!
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[@mrStarInSky]

Trying out a new feature, early video access for members, just wanna see how it works

[@Debra-W]

Raises hand ✋️ "Here"

[@rebecca9492]

Good idea!! I'm here for it!!

[@audreysamandler]

So I think my thoughts were right. Chapter 2 with Jafar as the villain will be part as the dlc and not the ''free update'' If I understand correctly. It has been confirmed by the statement about DDV are edition for Mac player..

[@fire34fly]

I did see comments on Rapunzel's model One of the many comments were she had no forehead and her eyebrows were too high but you can see from movie photos it's the exact same size. You described the characters models completely right, they're never gonna look exactly like the movies ESPECIALLY the human characters! It's super hard making a human likeness as opposed to the animal characters or non human ones.

[@kayladulhanty3410]

Me and my husband had a two hour long conversation about this. Disney Dreamlight Valley really isn't as outrageous as MANY other games and it sounds like you are getting a lot of content. They really are listening to feedback!

[@Debra-W]

A lot of players are really confused, which is understandable. Everyone just needs to relax because I think everything is going to be okay. I'm excited. ❤

[@ashleyirwin1016]

I 💯 agree and im also just really excited 🎉❤

[@MelissaH1977]

If they didn't continue to have microtransactions what would we spend our Dreamsnaps moonstone on? What would be the point of participating with nothing to "buy"?

[@its_Gamer_Djustin]

Exactly!

[@mrStarInSky]

True

[@TheDeborah0101]

I agree

[@VIVIANAMUDD]

That absolutely amazing Nightmare Before Xmas bedroom is proof that if they add the Touch of Magic tool to Dreamsnaps, I will probably get 1 moonstone a week out of pity.

[@TheDeborah0101]

Lol

[@DavidChilson]

In my opinion, a Free 2 Play DDV would've likely reduced the importance/role of Dreamlight Points and Starcoins in favor of using Moonstones to build Character's Houses, open up Biomes/Realms, and upgrading the different Buildings/Stalls. I'd imagine Merlin's and Scrooge's dialog/quests would've been changed to explain what Moonstones were.

[@bobcatman0121]

Reducing the shop by 1k each item would be a good compromise

[@its_Gamer_Djustin]

They already lowered the prices of the House Skins so theyre listening to us

[@bobcatman0121]

@@its_Gamer_Djustin they did?

[@its_Gamer_Djustin]

@@bobcatman0121 a bit since some houses now cost 3000 instead of 3750

[@audreysamandler]

I never wanted free to play but I have 3 things to say 1 I'm worried (I hope that the stream tomorrow will make my worry disappear) that the dlc will be too often. I'm ok paying 1or2 times a year 30 bucks. But not every 2/3 months .. 2 if the game is now a paid game, they NEED to work on the gameplay on switch or stop releasing on switch completely 3 I still can understand people who waited for f2p to play and lost more than a year of gameplay. I won't diminished their feeling

[@TheseLovelyPaws]

If I knew it would be so laggy/ buggy on switch I would have just gotten it for PC. I agree that it shouldn’t be sold on switch if it’s going to have so many problems (especially with them adding more to the game soon) R.I.P to all my fellow switch players out there!!

[@audreysamandler]

@@TheseLovelyPaws yeah switch players are really disrespected... I bought the game a 2nd time for my pc, but my pc is old and also made for work so the game lags a lot so I'm stuck for now with my switch. Hence why I think if it's now a paid game this needs to change or just be discontinued

[@FigaroKinjo]

I play on switch, I do not have any problems, no crash, no bugs besides what all players got such as only red flowers in frosted which now is fixed. I am tired of coments saying all switch players, because its not true.

[@audreysamandler]

​@@FigaroKinjo good for you. I didn't say all switch players. But I think it's a good percentage that have issues And even with less bugs, still an item limit of 3000. At one point we won't even be able to place the house's characters. So I will continue to say if now the game is a paid game this needs to be addressed or stop being released.

[@TheDeborah0101]

I agree with the Reddit poster about F2P and predatory hell. All F2P games are predatory hell and had DDV gone F2P I would have stopped playing it. Well done! This game has great potential. I'm excited to see how far the developers will take it. If you are playing on a switch... it will not get better. Ever! PC is the only way to game and almost every game in existence is available to play with no begging devs to update the game to suit your outdated system. It takes away from time spent on actual game development.

[@Momba_Jules]

I think its completely valid point to say that the micro transactions should be adjusted now that every single person who is playing will forever have to pay for this game (for now anyway)

[@anniedechamplain2733]

I realy see it like sims! You have the base game, expension and furniture pack. All them cost money! You can still play with or without expansion. You just add more land more stuff as you add expension! For me disney dreamlight is worth paying for!!! If i count how much i put on sims😅 Love your video thank for all the follow up!

[@simplyshelli]

DDV definitely gives us more freebies than Sims 4 (whatever happened to the SDX drops?).

[@elephant4053]

The sims is a great example since it went free to play and now we have a million kits that don't add anything so it shows before f2p and after

[@rhyssuxx]

I really think some people are just moaning for the sake of it at this point. Paid DLC, moonstones etc has been promised since day one!! And half the people moaning about no f2p have paid for the game already so what’s the issue?! Thank you for your nonstop positivity starinsky- I watch a lot of KZbinrs and it’s very rare to see anymore haha

[@Sarafromnc]

I think what they will do is set it up like the premium bundles like Ursula where you can click into it to play it

[@turtlebirdrox]

Keep in mind, I don't think that is the final edit of Rapunzel, but her face looks a bit older in the DDV picture. I mean her face looks closer to Anna's in terms of animation! If they can get Anna and Elsa's right, I'm hoping (with confidence) the final edit if Rapunzel will look better! Sadly, because she is too famous, I know we won't get Mandy Moore vocing her lol!

[@Lilitha11]

It annoys me when people assume it would have more microtransactions as a free to play game, because there are a lot of free to play games that are not like that at all. They designed the game to be free to play from the start, so it would likely remain how it is now if it was free. There is no indication that they were ever going to charge for stuff like backpack space. If you go by this assumption, then that means you think they were planning to charge for all that stuff originally, but it doesn't seem like they were.

[@TheDeborah0101]

The problem is that DDV started microtransactions during development. That's rare. So, if they started them during development then it's a certainty they would only get worse. The microtransactions listed in this video are an example of what could happen... not what will happen.

[@Lilitha11]

@@TheDeborah0101 Yeah but it could also get worse even with it being paid. Or maybe it was never going to get worse even if it was free. We don't really know.

[@ThomasThornhill]

I have been playing Disney Magic Kingdoms for about 2 years now (a supposedly "free to play" game). To advance in the game, they expect you to pay $20-30 PER MONTH to get premium characters. If you don't buy, you cannot win prizes and unlock characters, etc. They also have "competitive" offers that are a gamble. Keep Dreamlight as is and charge for complete upgrades.

[@its_Gamer_Djustin]

You can definitely count on me coming to tomorrow´s watch party! See you there MrStar!

[@Disimyy]

Thank you so much for featuring my nightmare before Christmas bedroom set. It was a nice break from the recent controversy. Always so fun to see your reactions ⭐️

[@mrStarInSky]

It was incredible❤️

[@jammiegirl74]

Great video as always Mr. Starman👍 I think once people hear what Gameloft has to say, I think things may calm down. People are more reactionary nowadays instead of stepping back and thinking a bit on it. I think pay to play is the way to go. I am so excited for what is to come. All these negative people haven't stopped to think of what would happen to the game and all the changes that would happen if it went F2P. It won't/can't remain as it is now. Many people need to be paid for their work on the game. The 20 minutes of credits at the end of Act 1 show that. I'm excited to see the transition and be a part of that, and the community as we go forward.

[@HotCocoCollective]

I can’t say that the micro transactions in the game is bad considering that we can get a decent amount of moonstones from dreamsnaps! If the game were free-to-play I am sure they would have decreased the amount of moonstones we would get for ranking in dreamsnaps!

[@Salocin_food]

I personal don‘t think the developers of DDV are money hungry + you don‘t even need to do the Starpass.

[@LateGamerToo]

@JohnCena502 Anyone who is playing a downloaded version doesn’t own the game though. Technically it’s rented and can be “taken away”. I’m just sayin, not trying to be argumentative. :)

[@AlexDayz]

@JohnCena502 it’s insane how many people are defending this decision when I’ve seen indie devs, people who could actually use microtransactions to improve/support their game, remove monetization of any sort from their early access paid game

[@justafan6535]

2:29 was one I saw and 4 stuck out. I was thinking it was a bonus chapter as well

[@UrsulaPowers]

Bring me the new stuff now so I can pay for it! I am so ready to play! LOL!

[@charlottegowlett-king9184]

Me too! I can't wait! So excited for the next update!

[@inestonks110]

I can’t wait to see all the stuff and play the game.

[@Disneylover2975]

For me the problem I have with Disney Dreamlight Valley just announcing that they are not going Free to Play is I didn't want to spend at minimum 40 dollars Canadien just for the standard edition for something I can't physically hold in my hands when it was going to come out Free to Play the following year. I just wasted 13 months minimum worth of time I could have been playing not to mention all the star path items I could possibly never get a chance at. Is my issue with it. If they had just announced it has a paid game from the start I would have just paid it from the start.

[@TheDeborah0101]

It pays not to wait. Many games do this. F2P is the worst type of gaming, and the developers realized DDV could be an epic game by not going F2P. I bought it on day one, thinking it would not go F2P. The reason is that the game has great potential and is unique. My intuition paid off. I'm very glad that it did.

[@lindasmith9072]

Thanks

[@jayjay-zb3pn]

Sorry but this game is so not free to play quality, I've never played a game that felt so rewarding. ❤

[@EarthrealmWarrior]

Ok, I am curious how do new players access Dreamsnaps. I think it's unlocked by a Vanellope quest. How does it work for new players and if it's the same how long does it take to unlock it ?

[@AlexDayz]

2:00 I know it’s exaggerated but that’s not how most reputable F2P games are made. One free game I play, Sky: Children of the Light, started off on mobile and its microtransactions are mostly fair. It’s fairly easy to earn the in-game currency both from just running around the world and from daily quest. Of you really want to you can also spend money on it to get those. They’ve even made it so that events have their own event currency so that way you can just save up your in-game currency for items you really want and can still partake and get the event items. Granted it’s not perfect but the games been going strong for 4 years now and is on consoles like switch, PS4, and soon Steam, so I’d say it’s doing pretty good for itself

[@MotherOfTheBestChild2020]

I think about to buy the cozy edition for the critters but now i will save my money for the DLC ❤ im so happy thats not free to play ❤🎉

[@stephanielynn4892]

I rarely comment however I think the outrage is from a majority of disney people who never have been in the gaming community before...I get being upset especially about wanting to switch consoles and having to repay for the game. Maybe they can make the download free. But need an account. They do need to change and tweak things now that it's not free to play. But there's a group that isn't willing to see what else they are going to offer and see what they are gonna say at the live. Which is annoying in my opinion. Let's hear them out. They might explain themselves

[@nthstr04]

Iwsh you would remove or make facecam smaller when you read reddit or show photos..been really hard to see what you are talking about if your face is 1\4 the image lol

[@SilverEars20]

We have to make so many adjustments just so Minecraft will run on the switch. The switch really needs a update & it is 100% a system issue.

[@faithangel926]

I get why people are upset since the game is not free to play anymore their standards for free to play and a paid game just might be different tbh we just dont have enough information at this point hopefully they answer people concerns doing the stream

[@SadeRSykes23]

FREE TO PLAY, OR PAID. MICRO TRANSACTIONS OR NONE, ITS BEEN A WHOLE YEAR AND I STILL DONT HAVE MY WINNIE THE POOH 😂 CAN WE DISCUSS A POOH UPDATE PLEASE.

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

Lol that's me but with Mulan 😅 where the hell is she 😅

[@heatherashbaker4529]

They should call them Free to download. Because they certainly are not free to play 😂

[@simplyshelli]

Regarding the last comment you shared. What do we get for being testers the past year? Look at the community rewards from the spring, the free item codes we've been given, exclusive items, Star Path rewards, and the devs incorporating our suggestions!

[@jimmythegeekxl]

I feel that most of those going off the rails are not too familiar with live-service games. Elder Scrolls Online is one I used to play often, and sometime still do. Think the moonstone prices for a house skin is bad in DDLV? The top tier premium homes in ESO will cost you $100 USD for ONE, the others can run from $15-70. Want the consumables/craft bag space? You HAVE to have a sub starting at $15/month. While the sub will give you access to all released expansions, if you stop the sub, you lose that access. Also, you will still need to purchase items in the cash shop. Sure, they give you 1400 store currency per month, but that doesn't go too far. AND they also use hidden item loot boxes that you sometimes can earn free, but are also paid with money. Granted, there is years worth of content, but it takes money to get it. if you get just the base game, you're fine (but still have to purchase it), as they'll release an offer to include all past expansion areas with the purchase of a new one. But for all the extras and glitter...it will cost you.

[@Joeywlsn]

The players complaining about switch won’t have to worry when the game comes to mobile. Smartphones will outperform the switch any day.

[@NerdyPanda-td1tz]

Can people not do basic math…. Look at the pay walled quests… 4K moonstones… if you don’t get enough moonstones from dreamsnaps to pay for it, it’s 35$ and what comes with it??? NOTHING. That’s what you get with free to play… it’s PAYWALLED TO ALL HELL. A paid game you get QUALITY dlc for a reasonable price. Compare it. Wall e quest got what? A boot, two outfits, a skin, a quest…. This new paid dlc has what? An entire world with 4 biomes, multiple characters… new content all together, furniture, resources, quests, clothing and so on…. Every free to play game you’ll end up paying way more money than paying a one time cost for the game. And dude…. The game isn’t expensive…. It’s also bullshit that people who actually were interested in this game, PAID TO PLAY IT EARLY ACCESS… while these whiners are crying they can’t play the game we funded for free… like what?!? Are you serious right now lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂

[@RealRoboKnight]

IT NEVER A REASONABLE FUCKING PRICE TO LOCK A A DAMN GAME WITH PURE MICROTRANSACTIONS BEHIND 60 FUCKING DOLLARS! JUST SAY Y'ALL LIKE GREEDY ASS PEOPLE! 🤬

[@snowanjel8440]

The people complain about a game that canceled free to play after going a year with making us think that it’s gonna be free to bring is negative but yet you make a video and have a thumbnail About how free to play probably look with in this game is very hypocritical there’s a lot of good free to play games that know how to monetize Dreamlight valley showed a time and time again they do not know how to monetize with the premium shop and then also canceling the free to play after showing another thing you can buy the cozy edition. I just love how people think that people with “” negative opinions about the game is invalid but all I see is nothing but delusion because there’s no other gameplay besides catering to the building simulating community. this is why I don’t like people they literally are hypocrites about how they actually proceeded to do stuff and judge people

[@lisamills5108]

I agree with their decision about not going FTP. I haven't bought moonstones or put any money into this game besides buying it from the get go. I will be buying the DLC because I do love this game so much. I don't feel the need to purchase moonstones because of Dreamsnaps and I don't have FOMO so I don't NEED to buy everything in the shop. And I am good with that. Everyone has their own play style and DLV listening to their players, making updates (free, QOL, etc) is fantastic. I will support a game with purchasing DLC's because of that and because it's a game I really enjoy playing. And I do see this game as a long-term game that I see myself enjoying over the years.

[@Cosyrach]

F2P games are absolutely like that! I just can’t! I’m glad it’s not going F2P, but also completely sympathise with those who waited for it. However, the F2P model would cost them more in the end.

[@Cosyrach]

Animal crossing pocket camp is an example I can think of that is micro transactions hell! I played it for a week and spent £40 just to get a few items or themes! I then deleted the app because I realised I couldn’t afford to play it 😂

[@DragonMage155]

I think a good alternative is, instead of going free-to-play, maybe make the game cheaper? Then again the only people complaining are the Twitter users

[@yoonqie8731]

I play apex and overwatch- just the other day OW hyped up a skin for it to be behind a $40 paywall. A /skin/. Apex does $100+ events. These $30 are not that big of a deal for everything you’re getting!! It’s not like you have to pay $30 for each new character you want to unlock.

[@readyraito9154]

I appreciate so much btw that you replied to my comment in the other video, I am gonna subscribe now

[@charlottegowlett-king9184]

I'm so relieved it isn't free to play as they can still get a decent revenue from people purchasing the game. It ensures the staff working on the game get paid to provide new content, to be honest I'm there for that. Everyone deserves their work to be paid! Can't wait for the update! Love your channel Mr StarInSky

[@drpeppergremlin]

I think that it's been pretty split in the community. A lot of people waited for free to play because it was stated over and over again. Almost promised with how much we were getting updated. I have been playing for over a year and have almost 1.1k hours in the game. With them not warning people and then coming out with.... "pay us or you lose access". It's just a bad way for them to phrase it. If this had been the expectation all along- this wouldn't be a shock. However, with so many people waiting for free to play and this change seems out of nowhere. They would have done better letting thousands of people down easy than pulling the rug out from under them. Yes, everyone needs to get paid, but if it was set up correctly like sims with zero expectation of free to play. They would be sitting pretty on people signing up.