Disney FINALLY Admits It Was Wrong About The Owl House

[@bluetheraze222]

Disney: "Wait, the show is actually popular and successful?" Dana and fans: "Always has been."

[@sushisashimi8320]

When I consider the dumb stuff that can trend in twitter I don’t really blame disney that much. But still they probably shouldn’t have figured out some way to find out how popular it was before canceling it

[@lunatic0verlord10]

Disney: "NO WAIT DO SHOOT!"

[@sayba6766]

No always

[@Eagle_Owl2]

@@jbcatz5 not only Gravity Falls, just look at what a huge power house Avatar is. And Nickelodeon also severely underestimated the pull of that show when first only greenlit the first Korra season (and only a short one at that). This decision was what ultimately caused the partially huge pacing and storytelling issues the show has, especially in the second season. I don't get why companies don't learn. Meanwhile we get one crappy and trashy show after another

[@sassy_sasarai4090]

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[@gaf407]

The silver lining is that this cements Dana as a proven show runner and will give her more opportunities in the future… perhaps not the owl house, but perhaps something else just as good if not better.

[@dedvi]

Dana Terrace mentioned that she isn't sure that she will ever do an animated show again since it's quite a lot of work and effort

[@HaydrogenBomb]

@@dedvi If she feels it isn't worth it, who are we to ask her?

[@adj2800]

Hopefully if there is then owl house suffered for it to live

[@miffedmax3863]

@@dedvi She's so young, too. I don't blame her for wanting to avoid that level of pressure. Still, I'm confident she'll thrive wherever she ends up next.

[@Kris-wo4pj]

She said awhile ago she'd rather just turn the owl house into a comics series after this. If she can keep the rights. She also wanted to try using the beta concepts which was much more horror themed.

[@modifiedapple5522]

Disney really do be forgetting that the biggest thing drawing people to their shows is the willingness to explore thorough, well-written stories

[@sayba6766]

Fr 😭

[@jotarokujofan702]

it's like they forgot gravity falls existed.

[@Shadowkey392]

If you think that, have I got a bridge to sell you!

[@SpecialInterestShow]

@@Shadowkey392 what do you mean?

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@HaydrogenBomb]

WELL, WELL, WELL. Looks like making a rash decision about a show's quality before it hit its stride during a pandemic was . . . a bad idea. 🥴

[@ianpittman108]

LMFAO

[@commandercorl1544]

Huh, that's crazy!

[@phoenixflame3129]

oh no! who could have guessed

[@halmittens]

even worse (according to a comment i read) it was 1 out of 27 executives who didnt approve of the owl house, so this one wretched person is responsible 💀

[@ZerotheBlade]

That is what happens when you have meetings over video chat and can't see the big picture because you are too worried about current profit loses then long term investment gains. Think of the money Disney would have gained if they worked with Lego or made official TOH merch, they wouldn't keep the King plushes stocked enough for a while.

[@RazTheNerd]

Dana made Disney regret a decision... let this sink in. Disney, the biggest animation company with billions of views, regret a decision. This not only shows how talented of a writer Dana Terrace is and how smart and how much she deserves her title but also that Disney messed up and being able to show this is outstanding. Edit: thank for 10k likes lol

[@datguy1042]

I feel like a lot of people fail to realize the situation Disney was in during this time. The decision was made to shorten the third season during the midst of the pandemic. Disney was losing tons of money from their amusement parks shutting down, there had to be budget cuts to all of their DTVA shows, and streaming services (Which would have been more fit for shows like the Owl House due to viewers being guaranteed to see all the episodes) were just starting to take off. Season 1 of the Owl House had just started airing and it didn’t seem like it was going to be a particularly successful show at the time. Of course now we can look back and see that it likely would have been worth it to renegotiate the shows contracts to make it a Disney+ original, but that unfortunately wasn’t the case when the decision was made.

[@grants9282]

@@datguy1042 If that's true, then why not say that in the first place? Why come up with something like "we suddenly decided it didn't fit the Disney brand?" If they cancelled it due to fears of financial losses due to everything shutting down or even fears that it wouldn't be successful, that would've made sense. It would've really hurt, but it still be understandable. Why spin a narrative so vague and confusing that no one takes it seriously?

[@MrRawrCEO]

@@grants9282 Corporations have typically never been great at communication beyond the generic corpospeak they force their mouthpieces to use. They also don't like to admit mistakes even when it's obvious...so either way they ain't lookin good.

[@Skyte100]

@@datguy1042 it was still stupid because everyone could see it was a popular show.

[@ajgameguy3674]

@@grants9282 Yeah, it made Disney look pretty bad, especially considering how they said that right around the time Luz and Amity confirmed their relationship.

[@sniclops15]

Disney should use this as a lesson. *Stay connected to the shows you support.* The fact Disney didn't notice how popular TOH really was is simply baffling

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@flamingfury7312]

@@blackout4328 bit rude there

[@kuro_neko5863]

It's not that baffling. Disney, like most other corporations, is run by old white guys that are completely out of touch with what the common people want.

[@sniclops15]

@@blackout4328 You're quite the ray of sunshine...

[@neilchambers470]

@@blackout4328 go outside and touch some grass

[@EnsignGeneric]

If there's one thing I've learned from Defunctland, it's that nobody in Disney management has ever known what the public wants, and it usually bites them in the ass. They certainly deserve to feel stupid for putting this golden goose down.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Oh yes! I watched Defunctland's videos too.

[@otherlego]

Haha yeah I watched an hour long documentary about waiting in lines. That’s kind of crazy.

[@arturferrao7353]

And the funny part is that they could had got a lot of money made with "The Owl House". Everybody and their uncle wants Owl House merchandize, but for way I could find, Disney never produced any. All the Owl House merchandize that there's on sale is non official stuff.

[@eggsnham.]

@@otherlego i watched it twice or thrice, it's a good one :P

[@firemiracle]

They truly deserve to feel stupid. And i hope this teaches them to always pay attention in how popular a very good show is, and not cancel them.

[@tariqgarmony2149]

Imagine canceling a show because it doesn't fit your brand and then finding out how popular it is, realizing that you made a big mistake. The Owl House had so much potential and Disney tossed it out of the window.

[@roxirock5455]

Kinda seems like they don't know their own brand tbh

[@timefliesaway999]

@@roxirock5455 they do, but they’re homophobic so what did we even expect

[@probium2832]

@@timefliesaway999 For some reason, they seem to prefer something as bafflingly bad as Shit-Hulk over this gem.

[@RavenStarMedia]

@@timefliesaway999 You know nothing. If they were "homophobic" the show wouldn't exist. The "brand" it didn't fit was the Disney Channel brand, being a serialized show for older audiences when the channel wanted episodic comedies for younger audiences. That's it.

[@sayba6766]

Frrr

[@alittlebitofme07]

We could've gotten 5 seasons, FIVE!! Imagine how well they could've actually planned the whole Possessed Hunter deal and the gang in the human world!! And I KNOW they would've done it well, Thanks to them is proof of that. I'm gladd they at least realised their mistake.

[@RB01.10]

At the same time though, I feel it’s better not to unnecessarily drag a show out and ruin it like many shows have already. As long as the ending gives us a sense of closure and finality I’m all for it. Granted I’d be okay with comics afterwards and maybe even shorts but that’s not official Five seasons would be a bit of a stretch for this show IMO

[@chaoticfroggo6852]

when i read that first sentence i was SPEECHLESS. I cant believe we could've gotten 5 seasons!! wtf disney

[@alittlebitofme07]

@@chaoticfroggo6852 I'm not sure if it was actually 5 seasons, I heard it from a friend but I haven't fact checked it ._. I'm pretty sure there were more than 3 seasons because I heard other people discuss that but idk if it was 5 haha

[@_V31_]

5 SEASONS? NAH IM MAD NOW. WE ARE 2 DAMN SEASONS SHORT

[@calutulalbastru6491]

I get that it's too late for a whole season 3, but why is it too late for a season 4?

[@LaphyTaphyCreation]

It's kinda strange how Disney sometimes is more proud of the shows that most people hate, and try to get rid of the shows that most people love,

[@CookNut456]

WackyChu hope Dana tells them to shove it.

[@feroniks366]

@@CookNut456 i hope she doesnt, we need more shows

[@kelsey154]

That's because kids like the shows older audiences usually don't like. And they think animations for kids. Because animations for kids, because toys are for kids Edit: this comment is about how the higher ups in big businesses think. I’m an adult who like animation and toys. I don’t need everyone telling me animations just for kids lol.

[@sleepy.timaeus.arts.]

@WackyChu exactly! just make merch that anyone can get! keychains, figures, shirts. i couldnt go into any shopping center without seeing su merch back when it was at its height. disney couldve had the same thing if they played their cards right

[@thomasallen9974]

@@kelsey154 And yet the ever massively growing anime influx (which anyone with common sense noticed) points to a vastly different idea: animation can be for anyone so long as you have the right story.

[@therealbrian7382]

If you all remember; season one actually did have episodes that didn't relate to the main story of the series, opting for a centralised story contained in that episode. This just means if they didn't cancel toh, forcing the series to hurry up and conclude, they would of had plenty of episodes to rerun like they wanted

[@Barrystue]

Disney successfully played themselves Both a blessing because as hop pop said “*EAT THE RICH*” But also no more owl house show

[@eggsnham.]

I personally liked that pretty much every episode had something to contribute to the main story line.

[@krazykookie23]

Yeah, but most shows especially kids' shows, often opt for episodic stories to play it safe, get a fan base, and cement their place before risky things and making a big overarching story. Think Svtfoe, Miraculous ladybug, and even steven universe. Though some of them did make lore and major plot points most episodes in the early seasons were self-contained.

[@PichuStardust]

They show doesn't deserve that fate, it shouldn't be rushed to finished, it should get the care and dedication it deserves. Even if it is the final season, it shouldn't be 3 episodes long. That just, its like Disney is mocking the show by doing this, trying to push and rush the character growth, the story line, everything to be rushed in no more then 132 minutes

[@starsiadraws]

@@PichuStardust It made me so sad seeing the montage of the late summer/early fall and seeing how many bits would've made amazing individual episodes, like Luz's coming out and the gang researching how to get back to the Boiling Isles.

[@arcie3716]

Disney is so out of touch with what the public wants. It’s really sad 😔

[@legendaryTMNICO]

They just won’t learn from their mistakes by making content that doesn’t align with people’s values. Go woke go broke.

[@DFStudios783]

@@legendaryTMNICO if you don’t like the show, DONT INTERACT WITH IT. stay mad.

[@martinmarkov9707]

Large companies are like that in general. Fear of loosing money drives them into the.. nya.

[@callumrangan1061]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again. Dana understood the phrase, "if you're gonna burn, burn bright". She knew the show was ending so she pulled out all the stops to ensure support. Cliffhangers, Lumity kiss, enticing plot towards the end, etc. Now she's even got the people who rebuffed the show questioning their decision. Now that's a fighter

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@aero235]

@@blackout4328 bruh you're under every comment here saying the same thing. Do you need someone to talk to

[@ashirii8347]

@@blackout4328 Nah fr, do you need someone to hang out with? Like I got you, we can play something or watch a show. Up to you. Nobody posts like that and doesn't need somethin

[@Buglin_Burger7878]

@@aero235 You can report them for spam and possibly harassment. Spam for repeating the same thing 100s of time endlessly and harassment since they are intentionally targeting and harassing fans of the show. Likely though they are a bot account or using a bot to do this.

[@shogunmaster3191]

​@@Buglin_Burger7878how is saying cry harder considering harassment? You are SOOOO SOFTTTTTTT

[@peytonibarra8992]

There is a multiverse where this show was never cancelled and didn't have to rush it's plot to give fans a good conclusion to the story, and I think I speak for everyone here that we all want to go there if possible.

[@Addison_Was_Here]

Ford get the portal ready

[@dinosaurusrex1482]

we dont know what the multiverse looks like or if it even exists

[@andrewsyoutube6489]

@@dinosaurusrex1482 first of all it’s hopeful and second wdym you don’t know what it looks like it’s a universe with different ending it seems pretty self explanatory

[@--evna--]

666 like

[@someone4585]

Obviously I can’t speak until the show has actually ended, but from what we’ve seen in Thanks to Them they’re doing a really good job of making a rushed ending still impactful

[@Luna-sd6mn]

I love how Disney’s target demographic with 7 to 12-year-olds and Disney CEO has gone on record saying that he doesn’t think cartoons are meant for adults but yet the show memory ended up being popular with meetings to adults because fuck yes it was it was an amazing show and still is

[@RB01.10]

He apparently has never seen Inside Out and Zootopia which feature serious topics such as mental health, prejudice, and discrimination while also being okay for kids to watch. Both films were also incredibly successful at the box office and won the Best Animated Feature Oscar

[@rebecca_rh]

@@RB01.10 he’s so out of touch…

[@crypticlish6717]

@@rebecca_rh Welcome to Disney Execs :) ever since Execs from around the era of the Black Cauldron I have been unable to trust that they know fa about literally anything especially not animation. From physically cutting random like 10 minutes out of an animated film despite never actually edited before to not even knowing what animations the studio made. Disney has a long history of executives who knew nothing about animation, nevermind an appreciation for the medium. They are incompetent af.

[@rebecca_rh]

@@crypticlish6717 sadly true, they led to the disney dark age first and after the Disney renaissance they butchered everything again by firing all 2D animators... cause they wanted to go full 3D but failed to see what actually made Toy Story or Shrek popular: an ACTUAL good story... And proceeded to make abominations like chicken little while butchering their 2D tradition

[@TheMJKnight]

"he doesn’t think cartoons are meant for adults" someone should point him to people that grew up on Batman the Animated Series & Justice League where it's more for adults than kids.

[@Spectralyzed]

I actually burst out laughing at the "Oh no, it's actually successful" line. Duh, Disney! We've been _telling_ you this for ages! Did it really take them this long to realize it had a devoted fanbase? People have been making fanart, comics, clip compilations, and more here on KZbin that are ridiculously popular. They must have been neck-deep in their denial.

[@grumpyteen6641]

No, R E A L L Y ?

[@datguy1042]

I feel like a lot of people fail to realize the situation Disney was in during this time. The decision was made to shorten the third season during the midst of the pandemic. Disney was losing tons of money from their amusement parks shutting down, there had to be budget cuts to all of their DTVA shows, and streaming services (Which would have been more fit for shows like the Owl House due to viewers being guaranteed to see all the episodes) were just starting to take off. Season 1 of the Owl House had just started airing and it didn’t seem like it was going to be a particularly successful show at the time. Of course now we can look back and see that it likely would have been worth it to renegotiate the shows contracts to make it a Disney+ original, but that unfortunately wasn’t the case when the decision was made.

[@comment2535]

@@datguy1042 or I mean they could've just come out and said that instead and it caused a lot more drama and other things I understand Disney isn't the best at communication with their board or fans

[@lulystalgianature2968]

Cue the Slowpoke meme 🤣

[@kiddkarterr]

They also don't notice the HUGE fail of the new little mermaid. They literally don't give a shit about their fans. Greetings from Russia

[@sadlobster1]

This news is both mildly annoying yet extremely hilarious, at the same time. I say "mildly annoying" because I can't believe it took the higher ups at Disney this long to realize they've made an error in judgement. This truly proves how stupid corporate greed is and how much it has destroyed the world

[@catbatrat1760]

True, but better late than never. Honestly, if they rotted in their graves sooner than they realized that they made a mistake, I would not be surprised.

[@SamBaca]

Should we try and make Disney hear Biggering?

[@randoncourter4923]

@@SamBaca Nah send it to Illumination

[@windwaker105]

Maybe there are better examples of corporate greed killing the world but I still agree with you

[@BB_Sebring]

Exactly, since they want it both ways. They want this "family-friendly" appearance with this and the "live-action" Pinocchio remake on Disney+. Yet seem perfectly content with kids watching Marvel movies and pestering their parents for merch based on the MCU. Also, are you seriously going to tell me that COVID-19 was the cause of season 3 gutted. Please, Disney is the largest media conglomerate on the planet. Animation was literally their best possible bet at the time with social distancing in place. So what about their theme parks? It just seems like a cover story for the fact that they listened to the complaints of parents who called the series "too gay" as opposed to their fans. They couldn't edit out the LGBTQ+ themes either in English or if it was dubbed into another language without sounding awkward (ie they couldn't pull a "cousins" as DIC did for Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune for Sailor Moon). Companies don't care about it, any that do are lying to you. Companies only see us as a means to an end, nothing more and nothing less. To social engineer us into buying their shit or otherwise distract us from what's going on around us (along with the rest of Hollywood, TV, and especially Sports). Would you expect anything less from these suits? They sold part if not all of their souls to obtain the wealth they have now

[@uraveragehoovy]

I just hope that Dana makes another show like this. Every show she’s worked on has been a banger

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

She’s got the Midas Touch.

[@joannamysluk8623]

She left Disney, we don't know what will happen next.

[@Ahmad_1799]

@@joannamysluk8623 good Disney dosent deserve her

[@yogurtRat]

@@Ahmad_1799yeah they don’t deserve her

[@Ahmad_1799]

@@yogurtRat I hope she joins a better studio

[@skylar408]

I can’t understand how they ever thought it wasn’t successful enough. I literally couldn’t go anywhere online without seeing at least a dozen posts about this show. And I finally watched it last month and loved it too.

[@followeroftheprince]

Maybe it was popular in all the ways that Disney didn't care about? Like, some things I've heard of were canceled cause while it was popular, it didn't make toy sales they wanted

[@jasonlu4514]

Tbf season 1 is kinda mid beside the few episode people talks about. Season 2 however (chief kiss)

[@LeapsofFaith1234]

Dude, this is the same company that couldn't put their ego aside when *TREASURE PLANET* was being made. To me, disney execs can go rot in a shallow grave for ending an entire animation department's career just to make the brain child of two talented directors into a scapegoat.

[@brandonhavok]

A: most social media sights feed you content that aligns with things you are already interested in so don't take the quantity of stuff you see on the internet as an example of how widespread the knowledge of a show is. B: the target demographic for Disney was probably not the resulting demographic. C: sales of official Owl House branded products probably weren't as high as they hoped for.

[@rheawelsh4142]

@@followeroftheprince No, they were just high on copium, pretty sure Dana has said that they'd just brush off any legitimate online success as "something anyone can do"

[@Blub_blubby]

Doing an animation degree just reinforces “Animation isn’t just made for kids!” And like Guillermo Del Toro said: “Animation is film, not a f***ing genre!” Edit: 1K likes in 2 days? Damn! It’s nice to see how many people agree

[@PrototypeSpaceMonkey]

Amen brother! On a related note, I live in the Netherlands and was happy to hear the stop-motion animated movie "Knor" won the Golden Calf (they're like the Dutch Oscars) for best direction, best styling and even best film. Not "best animated film", not "best childrens film", straight up BEST. FILM. PERIOD. (Having said that, I will be the first to admit that the Dutch movie industry as a whole is the absolute bottom of the barrel, and this year's other nominees were particularly cringe. But still, a win's a win)

[@linkinlog8543]

im getting my animation degree rn and i had my animation class today. We watched futuroma and the behind the scenes. I don’t want to make kid shows. I want to create adult shows that are colorful and that are MEANT FOR ADULTS ONLY

[@Appletank8]

@@linkinlog8543 It's weird how often adult animation seems to go for stylistic suck.

[@swarlock]

Agreed.

[@jebeifinn443]

True in that. I think animation as a tool to make art.

[@surprisingdolls]

What can we do to bring the show back? It’s so unacceptable and even unfair that a show like that gets cancelled. I’m a huge fan of Eda and I can’t let her die like this 😭 Has anyone started a petition?

[@jackieluna]

Nothing. The decision has already been made and TOH team has already begun production on the last two episodes that will be wrapping up the series as best as it can.

[@Twisterio2]

Disney would have to pay them A LOT. And i mean, A LOT! They would have to start paying HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS to just get them to create ONE EPISODE.

[@skilergilmore244]

Thier should be.I LOVE THIS SHOW AND IM NOT READY TO LET IT GO

[@lilydragon2129]

@@jackieluna exactly why I am so mad, they regret it now. NOW. When they already screwed the show. Fucking, we had one of the best shows, they didn't realize it was popular, killed our beloved show in cold blood, slaughtered a masterpiece, and ONLY NOW, do they realize they made a huge fucking mistake. Ya know. When its too late.

[@surprisingdolls]

I wonder if other studios could make spin offs with the same characters and the same looks 🤔 I want a spin off with Eda please 😭😭😭

[@LostEngineProductions]

Although it's too late for a proper season 3, it's honestly kinda refreshing seeing Disney realizing that they have fucked up SEVERELY. Not only did they miss such a giant opportunity for them on all fronts, but it is 100% entirely their faults and they know it.

[@roxirock5455]

Yup,like imagine all the money official merch would have given them .

[@undeadinside3571]

@@roxirock5455 they have some already. Im actually getting a king plushie in like a week for my fiance

[@probium2832]

Disney, please stop preferring something as embarrassingly bad as Shit-Hulk over this gem.

[@unicombibita2866]

I only discovered this show recently but when I tell you it was addicting, I mean it was ADDICTING I got so upset there were only two seasons and I kept watching stuff about it on here, I will be getting TOH merch no matter what

[@UndecisiveAngel]

@@probium2832 the fact that this isn't even your first comment that's essentially the same thing is hilarious. You can praise one show without putting down anything else and if you watched the comics, you wouldn't be so embarrassed about the movie. Touch some grass, dude

[@peppycrossing2796]

I hope TOH acts as a lesson to Disney and that they will be more willing to give serialised cartoons/cartoons with representation a chance in the future - and ofc we would have Dana to thank for that!!

[@endamcnabola]

There's Dragon Strikers coming, so that's a good sign. Although it's on Disney+ rather than Channel.

[@lulystalgianature2968]

I must admit, the representation has been shown phenomenally in TOH, but I still feel bad that many, if not all shows I have seen give a heavy focus on romance. What about people who are asexual, or aromantic? I mean, we have Lillith who is both, an aroace, but it just isn't the same. She's not a main character, and not exactly someone easy to associate with when you consider what she did at the beginning, so really not a good example 😢

[@peppycrossing2796]

@@lulystalgianature2968 big agree there. I hope for some more cartoons with ace/aro rep in the future!!

[@lulystalgianature2968]

@@peppycrossing2796 Me too. All this talk about representation, yet romance is still a heavy focus on everything. Not all people want romance. What's wrong with wanting just friendship? One of the many reasons why I loved Amphibia so much. It had a little romance here and there, but despite everything, the main focus was pure, precious friendship, which stayed that way despite much of the fandom shipping characters like crazy.

[@tin4258]

I think that it's super weird that they didn't want to have a serialised show to begin with. Gravity Falls was so successful that they wanted to give it a third season and it was built up very similar to TOH - first season being more random/episodic and second season starting to slowly becoming more serialised. They knew that this formula could work, already wanted to milk it before and yet decided to cut the serialised show by the same team short regardless?

[@halnyx7488]

The next best thing to getting an apology from the people who made the decision (without Dana's consent or request to the meeting as it's creator) is the admittance that they were in the wrong to make a "panic" decision on cancelling the series, via a much shorter final season than it deserved. And while Dana made a valid point in finding gratitude that they were at least willing to take a chance on her project and giving her the freedom to write what she wanted back then, I still feel like they need to learn from this experience to ensure they do not make a repeat of someone else's baby. At least with this it not only may open up new avenues for the series to expand or exist in a spinoff or graphic novel (assuming Dana is willing to pursue it before starting a new project), it also could mean other animators and writers will be given the benefit of the doubt for their work in the future. There are so many amazing storytellers and artists out there who deserve to freely create their work and share it with others so that they can experience it with future generations who would appreciate it too, and higher ups/execs of big companies like Disney are looked to like parents who they depend on to help support them in their endeavors.

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@ItsKadelyn]

@@blackout4328 shut up pls dont do dat or i will reported

[@MTTT19]

The trouble is that a lot of Executives (in particular with kids or animated shows) think that the best kinds of shows are the ones where the main character is goofy or just plain stupid and with no on going plot. But they realise their mistake too late when we get shows with ongoing stories, world building and character development.

[@joyc.e.7511]

You'd think that they'd get a clue after seeing how legendary shows like ATLA and Gravity Falls became but NO. They have memory loss as well apparently.

[@Appletank8]

They want to be able to run reruns endlessly without worrying about ongoing plots.

[@talonofblades06]

Most big entertainment execs grew up before the 80s...so they were spoonfed saturday morning cartoons that often lacked continuity or deep thought, instead relying on slapstick. This is reflected in Chapek's policies of shutting down the more adult or story oriented cartoons on disney platforms, since he grew up in the 60s and early 70s where scooby-doo was the highest brow TV animation he had available.

[@normanclatcher]

So you're saying there's a chance.

[@ryanmoore6259]

I think a large part of it is that they want to appeal to conservatives as well.....and Owl House is VERY harsh on social conservatives (Belos is a puritan christian and a genocidal monster)

[@ilikefrogss]

As disappointed as I am, I am super grateful that the show wasn’t just simply… cancelled. The animators and team are clearly putting their whole productionussy into these three specials, and this news makes me so glad that fans of the owl house including myself are finally capable of getting through to Disney after so long. For now, I plan on enjoying what we have and keep supporting Dana and everyone involved in the hopes of getting more amazing content in the future.

[@grey8288]

"Productionussy" 💀

[@Billiamjarries7790]

What is a productionussy

[@Luiixe]

"Productionussy" HELP

[@breezydommie]

PRODUCTION WHAT NOW?

[@MYK4RM4]

PRODUCTIONUSSY ☠️

[@flowerbit4137]

At the very least, maybe this realization will help Disney realize that audiences DO want serialized cartoons and then maybe they’ll green light more projects like the owl house in the future still

[@lewilbur]

VALIDATION!!! I am so glad that Disney has finally recognized how successful this show is! I wish they could have recognized that way earlier, but like you said I think they were too concerned about the pandemic to think about anything else.

[@pinktrutle1490]

Too late now it's in the disney valt now

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@pinktrutle1490 Agreed. Not to mention Bob Chapek's history.

[@lioness_g1]

If they made a comic series off of it, like if the episodes and parts we never got to see were transformed into comics then I personally think that would more than likely get a lot of traction because of the amount of people that watch the owl house!

[@LoreCatan]

MoringMark is already on it lmao, they were on it from day one! Some official comics about the hexcrew on earth would be nice, but considering the amount of people who have already done such comics in the wait for season 3, as well as Dana's reluctance to work with Disney ever again, Eda's childhood with Lily and Raine would make for a much better comic series imo.

[@peachynene3447]

That's a good idea! I would but those comics so quickly especially since comics was the first thing I got super into when I was a teen

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

Generally, I don't buy comics. I don't have many book stores around me and I just generally don't vibe with comics, but if it meant more Owl House? I'd buy every copy.

[@partygamingz3332]

more than likely if not hopefully they can do smt like adventure time did, and have a spin off mini series that covers either the past or future, we know the intro sequence all could have been its own episodes, so it could cover more stuff like the human realm a shame tho we cant get Possessed!Hunter for longer time but his appearance alone is really good

[@BlueFHS]

I would love a graphic novel based on what happened during the time skip in the human realm. Basically giving us a glimpse of what season 3 could’ve been

[@anime-_-panda]

Its crazy to me that Disney doesn't recognize its older audience when it comes to their shows. Also yeah I feel like Owl House has just been added the the list of shows that ended too soon, like Gravity Falls and Star Versus the Forces of Evil. Both of which are absolutely fantabulous shows that I miss oh so dearly.

[@RB01.10]

Yeah that’s the odd part. Yet they’re okay putting out PG and PG-13 films

[@DoveJS]

I don't believe Gravity Falls was cut short, but they certainly had struggles getting some content approved and it's been a few years since I watched it, so I could be wrong about that. A third season wouldn't have been that hard to do, I just worry the pacing might not support it because I remember feeling pretty satisfied during my first watch through, other than Pacifica kinda falling off the radar immediately after her single-episode redemption arc. Star vs. the Forces of Evil is a mixed bag and I think it had 4 or 5 seasons which isn't terribly long but also not incredibly short. Whether you liked the ending or not it didn't feel super abrupt, so I don't know about that one either; maybe I just missed hearing about it being cancelled before they were ready. The Star/Marco shipping felt awkward and drawn out at times so I wouldn't have wanted more of that but the ending could've been more satisfying overall. I certainly would've loved spending more time with most of the side characters! 😊

[@RB01.10]

@@DoveJS I’m pretty sure though Gravity Falls ended on its own terms. If I recall correctly, Disney wanted more of the show but in the end settled with Alex to end it how he wanted which was probably for the best Odd how that’s the exact opposite as Owl House as the studio heavily cut down Season 3. That being said, maybe it’s a blessing Owl House won’t be unnecessarily milked and dragged out like others

[@DoveJS]

@@RB01.10 Yeah, I didn't think Gravity Falls got cut short. It felt really well-paced and complete, but it's been years since I watched it so I wasn't certain. As much as I loved it, I'm glad Alex was able to end it when he wanted to, how he wanted to, on a high note! And I agree, I'm glad the Owl House won't get milked either! There are too many shows that go on past their freshness date, you can tell when they run out of ideas, and it becomes a bad experience by the end. It just sucks that it got cut off in its prime so we won't get to see a more leisurely story with extra character tidbits that probably had to be cut to further the main plot. Hopefully they'll make some graphic novels with side-stories that might've made it in if they had a fully fleshed out third season! 😄 Edit: Of course, if they don't, I'm pretty sure MoringMark will deliver in spaaaades.

[@crypticlish6717]

@@DoveJS I'm personally frustrated as hell that we were robbed of Hunter dealing with his trauma that was hinted at how they'd wanted to cover it in the montage, would've been really impactful. There was a lot of things in Thanks to Them that me and my animation peers discussed would have been great as actual episodes and arcs, that would have been incredibly impactful but alas. I do not feel Dana would have dragged the story out personally, it wouldn't have ended up in a Fairy Tail situation where it doesn't know when to wrap up, but with 4 seasons and maybe a big special length finale I really think material could have been comfortably and succinctly covered. Idk I'm just incredibly bitter seeing how many storylines were axed because of it needing to condense and quickly wrap everything into 3 episodes. That's just my 2 cents tho, but maybe I'm just jaded with how things have been in the industry especially as of late.

[@zombie2132]

"Oh no, the show is actually successful," is something everyone that watched the show could tell those execs so they clearly never watched it cause im always sitting on the edge of my seat for these episodes.

[@LynR.M.1378]

I’m still waiting for a season 3 of gravity falls

[@stanzacosmi]

@@LynR.M.1378 sadly that would be against the creators wishes. The show was only meant to be 2 seasons long from the getgo so it would never wind up like what some shows do

[@sayba6766]

Frrr

[@graguu]

My heart actually shattered when I heard of the cancellation. So upsetting how they shortened arguably the most important season. I hope Disney regrets this decision for the rest of its depleting life. I would enjoy a spinoff, but I always prefer the main story over everything. I love this show and would do ANYTHING to save it…

[@RB01.10]

I may be in the minority here, but the show felt like a chore to sit through. Some good moments yes, but my God were so many episodes just boring and feel like a chore to sit through.

[@2_Cyx]

@@RB01.10 I personally really enjoyed the sorta Slice of life "Filler" episodes because they fleshed out character relations even in stuff like the B plot of the episode a really good example of this is the grudgby episode where the episode's main plot is Luz, Amity & Willow showing Boscha what for in a grudgby game & the B plot fleshes out Eda & Lilith's backstory and giving them a relationship healing moment towards the end of the episode.

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@ArvenTheSVSavior]

@@RB01.10 I honestly completely disagree with you because the only episode looking back that I could call mediocre was Once Upon A Swap and besides that one every other episode was a banger

[@zippius]

​@@ArvenTheSVSavior same, thats the only episode of the series i would skip if i rewatch it

[@minxyayala]

Even if the Owl house itself ends here, the fact that the higher up learned that this kind of show is very popular could mean that any show like this in the further can have a better shot to get the run time it deserves.

[@colebryant9841]

Exactly, I like the way on how you think. ⭐️👍I hope you have a great day and Happy Halloween 🎃🎃

[@Syrtax]

gravity falls walked so owl house can run so that future shows can sprint ... i hope?

[@maem7462]

Yes and let’s hope they remember this and how much they regretted this decision if they think about canceling a similar type of show in the future

[@funkyguy9713]

Too late disney. The show didn’t have time to fully flesh out everything they wanted especially having to compress all of the gangs time in the human realm to one special it’s completely unfair to the animators and team behind this show and Disney id blatantly expressing that they don’t think lgbtq shows are worth investing in because of the censoring they have to do in other countries 😑

[@colorbar.s]

this video JUST clarified it was because of the pandemic and not queerphobic reasons, though.

[@jmurray1110]

Hell they put luz’s outage to her mum in a fucking montage

[@mrcritical6751]

@@colorbar.s I heard it was more the Gargoyles issue of just being a bit too dark for their brand according to Dana herself

[@Jamilbaker12]

We could get episodes after the finaly for the time that they were in the human realm, and more info about the clawthawn family and luz's dad

[@GusCraft460]

@@colorbar.s yeah, but PR statements are rarely the whole truth. I can easily see some executive’s anti-LGBTQ biases making them look for any reason to shut the show down. It’s also possible that it wasn’t even Disney’s homophobia that caused it. They may have been concerned about Florida politicians targeting Disney world with culture war BS retaliation policies over the show.

[@FnafFanProductions]

This honestly brings a smile to my face. To think that Disney... *DISNEY!!!* One of the most biggest corporations in the planet, regretted a decision. I can just imagine the looks on the executives faces when they discovered that.

[@amysutton3807]

Hopefully they'll make a young Eda spin off to make it up to us.

[@jeremydale4548]

If they want to truly make it up to us they'll do a sequel that focuses on just having adventures that Dana and her team WANTED to do but couldn't

[@WirelessMagician]

@@jeremydale4548 At last: Time for 20 more adventures.

[@Fantasticbrownie99]

no

[@matthewsrandomstuff3263]

I got the perfect name for the spin off: Claw Clan

[@Fantasticbrownie99]

@@matthewsrandomstuff3263 can you have children with me 🥺👉👈❤️

[@nicholasmarshall9128]

Over the summer when I was working as a camp counselor, the campers were OBSESSED over this show, sure not everyone liked or knew about it, but I was surprised how many talked about this show.

[@RimefeatherMage]

So frustrating that Disney didn't realize how amazing this show was going to be. I do hope we get more Owl House in some form going forward. It deserved to just run as many seasons as necessary to tell its story, but regardless, it is still amazing!

[@Archive_7802]

_“You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.”_

[@JudgeCrimson1011]

Now that the show has ended, I wish we had more episodes for season 3. So many episodes could have been dedicated to their time in the human realm 😔

[@MochiOnPaws]

Yea, maybe in a *NEW* movie we would see them explore the earth?

[@Followthecat893]

They could of, AT LEAST, not shoved everything into 40-50 minute episodes and actually just told the same story they did without adding anything and just made them 20 minutes, just like the rest. I feel like people would at least be less upset.

[@Donirexian]

For the record, I'm pretty sure episodes relating to Amity, Gus, Willow, and Hunter adapting to the human realm (ex. beach episode, rafting, Amity and Luz dates) would've been episodic, which is Disney's formula. Which is ironic, because that is what fans are begging for right now. The stuff that was cut was probably going to be episodic and fans are actually disappointed that we missed it. Disney just lost tons of money.

[@maxwilson8917]

This is what they should do as the spin off series

[@RavenStarMedia]

Wrong. We were never getting that. Everything that was cut was Boiling Isles stuff. They're only in the human realm because of the Collector, who only exists because of the cut. We were never getting a full 3rd season in the human realm.

[@Donirexian]

@@RavenStarMedia Even so, if Disney asked Dana to make more episodic stuff rather than serial episodes, she could've went this route as well. Has she ever revealed what the story would've been like without the Collector? I feel like Luz and Camila's relationship would've been severely underdeveloped without it. Especially since Luz's main concern throughout the 2nd half of season 2 is Camila.

[@RavenStarMedia]

@@Donirexian She hasn't totally revealed everything yet (probably because the show's not done-there's still things in the show's initial pitching that she hasn't shared yet because of spoilers to come). However, she did say all of the following were cut: -Hooty origin episode -a 2nd young Raeda episode -Luz's quincenera -Steve and Maltholemule bonding -Darius and Eberwolf bonding -a lot more expansion on the coven heads -a beach episode So there likely would have been more lore expansion and more slice of life bits, but the shortening forced them to re-do the plot and move the Day of Unity til the end of Season 2 rather than the end of Season 3.

[@Donirexian]

@@RavenStarMedia To me, that still sounds like a lot of episodic plot. Even if it is lore expansion, a hooty origin episode and another Gus/Matholomule one doesn't sound like it would advance Belos' plot that much. I think my main point in my original comment still stands. Even if it isn't the main crew adapting to the human realm, we still would've gotten a bunch of episodic stuff that fans actually are wanting now. I still think it's hugely ironic that TOH team had to cut the kind of episodes Disney wants, and fans want too. Disney needs to learn that an overarching plot doesn't mean every episode will be the main focus of it. That's why there's always so called filler episodes in anime like Naruto and One Piece.

[@StylusShade]

I knew this was going to happen when I learned they cut the show short due to its serialized nature. They'd see that the show is actually really popular, and they'd be like "Aw shit, we missed out on so much money."

[@denysvision]

And also of lgtb representation as welll

[@eris_kitsune0440]

@@denysvisionlet's be honest its the only reason it's popular.

[@denysvision]

@@eris_kitsune0440 true, and i love that, disney just dosn't understand that, and they say that they suport lgtb, but in reality they don't

[@probium2832]

@@denysvision Women aren't doing so well in Disney either in general... Disney, stop preferring the embarrassment that is Shit-Hulk, over this wonderful gem.

[@Mattucker67]

I could easily see Disney producing a "Season 4" of sorts. If it were another animated series, they could say that its Luz and Co. reminising on their past (unseen to us) adventures.

[@RB01.10]

I doubt that will happen at this point. Dana said last year the ending has already been planned. Next best thing would be a comic or maybe even shorts

[@Werntzy]

We can all just hope that this means Disney will try to bring Owl House back in some way shape or form

[@viewtifuljoe66]

@@JazzStation95 well season 3 you could tell all misadventures in luzs home town could been few episode son their own.

[@stellathefoxgirl3648]

Well, who knows, we might get an s4 now-

[@arcane_sigil_01]

They won't. They may have been proven wrong and everyone is laughing in their faces, but they won't go back on their decision. It would mean their long seated racism really IS a bad thing. Disney execs think racism is ok.

[@jas5519]

@@stellathefoxgirl3648 lol we wont its too late

[@Werntzy]

@@arcane_sigil_01 We'll have to wait and see

[@chipshop10]

(I know they wouldn't make this but) just imagine we get a Disney plus limited series that goes into more details of and documents the witches time on earth that we saw only in the montage, giving us a more complete S3. I doubt they would but it's nice to dream

[@necrosylum.l3013]

I fully think that is what they should do. It's really the only way that canonically they have any wiggle room to add to the show.

[@chipshop10]

@@necrosylum.l3013 that or the young Eda idea. But tbh I'd prefer the witches on earth mini series. But honestly I'd take anything however witches on earth would be better and also would make a great apology

[@PDD555]

Same, this should be their main priority to add it to the canon, an extended s3

[@creed8712]

Never say never. I never assumed I’d see the Bad batch but not only was it animated but they got their own spinoff so

[@saturnisgay69]

pls i would pay all of my very little money to get that

[@johnmccarron7066]

Most television shows are going to have either a very loyal fan base or a very broad fan base. The Owl House is one of those rare shows that has both, And it makes me seriously doubt the business credentials of any executive who can miss such a golden opportunity.

[@SunlitSpectacle]

This really goes to show how money is valued over quality and it is so sad, but I'm glad Disney is finally giving TOH the recognition it deserves.

[@wither1019]

if that were the case then disney shouldve seen hey 15 - 30 year olds can buy merch without parents meaning more salles but they didnt smh

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

@@wither1019 They KNOW adults go to Disneyland alone, it's not just for kids and never has been. But somehow they got stuck thinking their shows were only for kids? I don't know, some companies start chasing near term money in exchange for their legacy. Konami used to have a legacy. Then they moved to apparently focusing heavily on Pachinko machines cashing out on that legacy, but over time no one is going to remember what those machines were referencing and they might still make money but they sure won't have any brand loyalty. I get it, quality is difficult, but I think it supports the bottom line more than competes with it.

[@SunlitSpectacle]

@@wither1019 To double on the comment below this. The video literally says they were making cuts on projects that weren't already fixed and established and bringing in revenue without additional work IE: reruns.

[@ahmadfaezuddin177]

Well, the main audience of this series was not children. Most of them were teens and above ( that i know ). The story was really really good . It a no brainer that its popular .

[@RB01.10]

That’s odd since the show is rated TV-Y7-FV

[@KomaedasOneTrueHope]

​@@RB01.10 And MLP:FIM was rated TV-PG but still had a teen and adult following just because a show has a specific target demographic DOES NOT MEAN IT DOESN'T CATER TO AN AUDIANCE OUT SIDE THE DEMOGRAPHIC. Disney just realized they goofed up.

[@RB01.10]

@@KomaedasOneTrueHope PG? When MLP FIM aired on Discovery Family here in the US it was rated TV-Y. The only thing of it that was rated PG was the 2017 theatrical film

[@KomaedasOneTrueHope]

@Ryan Blanche Here in California it was rated TV-PG in the darker episodes especially (like The Cutie Map parts 1 and 2 which covers the topic of Cults. In other words the highest it could go was TV-PG that's that rating on Netflix

[@RB01.10]

@@KomaedasOneTrueHope Hold up I thought TV and film ratings are all the same in all 50 states ?

[@AuraHero]

It shouldn't be understated how big of a deal it was for The Owl House to trend on Twitter on a Saturday night during college football season. It's one thing to do it on Saturday morning before the games, but to trend on a Saturday night while a number of big games were still being played is pretty impressive. Especially when there were a ton of close games that day featuring top teams. That absolutely had to catch the execs attention.

[@RB01.10]

Whoa when was this ?

[@historicstudios2708]

I’m not a huge fan of the owl house, no particular reason just couldn’t get into it, but I can see why it’s doing so well. The animation is really well done, the characters are pretty diverse in their personalities, and the music and writing also seems really well done. The show deserves the admiration it’s getting from the fans and it’s nice to see Disney is finally acknowledging that

[@metaloverlord7465]

There's nothing wrong with not liking something if you are civil about it like you were.

[@joyc.e.7511]

I personally wasn't that into it when I first watched a couple eps from the 1st season (which had to do with the aspects Disney pushed for, Harry Potter-esque school, etc.) but The 2nd season completely altered my perspective and showed me how good the writers actually were. And they are REALLY good, especially when it comes to creating character relationships and dynamics. And this was done with the knowledge they were being cancelled, which is doubly impressive to me. Disney seriously messed up and I hope this makes them give new show ideas the consideration and room they need to grow.

[@rosythewildflower]

It really only got good in season two

[@viarobixknof]

@@rosythewildflower Personally I got hooked at the finale episodes of season 1, and rewatching the first season gives me a whole new appreciation for the humble beginnings of the show. First time watching though, I really found it annoying how direct and cheesey the messages were, so I totally get where you're coming from.

[@lonewolf9578]

I enjoyed it because it kind of gave my Gravity Falls vibes

[@larryroland7387]

I don't think I can honestly ever forgive the decision to cancel this show when it had a whole season planned we never got. It's literally the only tv series I genuinely enjoyed and felt connected with. I've cried profusely and violently several times today as I just saw the final episode. Something about watching that last episode made it really sink in that it was over. I'll forever miss the magic that this show's heart and soul bought to my life. My heart hurts and I'm crying again now.

[@greyno7030]

I hope this makes Disney realize that giving creative, character focus shows a chance is worth it. We'll never get to see what the owl house would have looked like without these limitations, but maybe I'm happy with what we got and I know Dana and the crew are giving us the best season 3 they can. who knows? maybe we'll get that golden guard spin off, or a young eda spin off. maybe now shows like the owl house won't have to fight so hard to just get a chance.

[@faithnorthrup3662]

Maybe we will get a spinoff off story about Caleb and Evelyn. Oh, and maybe, perhaps, we’ll see it from Caleb’s point of view.

[@CS_Mango]

Honestly I'd rather take something completely different than a spinoff. As in let ghosts rest rather than try to make it fit after digging it up.

[@lemax6865]

Original ideas will always have to fight for a place in the corporate world. Corpos don't care about art, they want short-term profits; this makes them extremely risk-averse and completely incapable of understanding the idea of building a fanbase. They don't want a group of 100 000 fans following the story for decades, they want a group of 10 million normies consuming the product for a month.

[@blueishere1613]

@@CS_Mango Eh, it could be there for the people who do want the spinoffs.

[@blueishere1613]

@@faithnorthrup3662 Personally tho, i'd really like to see more detail into whats in the montages from the beginning of s3 e1. they wanted to make a whole episode on each of those little clips.

[@blerst7066]

I'm screaming "I TOLD YOU SO, DISNEY!" right now. ToH could've made them billions but they threw that opportunity away in a panick, lol.

[@bonitoflakes7425]

Kasrium greeting us in the beginning and King popping out of the cake synced up so well wow.

[@tytheaniman497]

This is the best show they’ve ever had. The animation styles are fantástico, the world building is incredible, and it’s WAAAAAAAY more emotional. Hell it’s even darker than Gravity Falls, and that’s saying something! Owl House is their most phenomenal masterpiece and it will be EXTREMELY hard to top it.

[@ryankramer8779]

I'm going to grammar n@zi you for a few seconds and say it's "fantásticos" with an s because the noun is plural 😂

[@kripto1]

Owl house> every Disney show. I also noticed that Disney is only using princeses that are old like Snow White. They just changed the skin tone/race of her and called it a day instead of making a new princess

[@jeremydale4548]

Yeah. Canceling it is Disney's BIGGEST mistake. And it was a stupid one that should NEVER have been ALLOWED to happen in the first place.

[@Peachy_PlaysRblx]

Exactly! They just kicked an amazing series to the curb

[@kylgrv]

I'm still bummed that season 3 got cut short, as well as angry at the executive's words of choice for cutting the season short, but hearing that the executives are now realizing they've made a huge mistake makes me feel better. Justice!

[@SnowWolfAlpha]

A comic series detailing all the adventures the kids had in the human realm would be nice.

[@marissamay8527]

I'll hoping for either an Owl House spinoff or The Owl House Movie!!! Which one sounds better?

[@PurgatoryProductions1]

personally i'd like a spinoff! maybe something following eda as a kid, or luz and friends in their adult lives.

[@mememan-qd3sh]

im hoping for the witches time in the human realm as it was clearly supposed to be a part of season 3

[@onecoolguy9499]

@@PurgatoryProductions1 hear me out:a Vee spinoff

[@PurgatoryProductions1]

@@onecoolguy9499 YES

[@CarlosGuzman-vi9xw]

Spinoff of VEE in the Human Realm (and occasional visits to The Boiling Isles to see Luz & Co.) Or an Eda Hexside prequel series.

[@00s.v.n.s00]

It's insane to see how disconnected these big companies are from their consumers, but never disconnected from the money they pull in.

[@joyc.e.7511]

For real. If they put more effort into connecting with their consumers than they'd actually know how to get more money from them. Instead of cancelling an insanely popular show.

[@lucasmcpeak1102]

This show is just astounding. Seeing everyone in the human realm just hanging out actually almost made me cry, and then they already left. The characters are just absolutely addictive. I can confidently say that that season in that style would have been my favorite thing Disney has ever created. Rest in Peace Owl House, you will be missed.

[@aidenstammler4618]

I was goin to say, the episode release on KZbin was overwhelmingly large. just as large as the first episode released years earlier. When Disney executives saw that they went "Oh sh!t. we messed up on a cash cow." and I'm honestly geninuly happy that Dana and crew were able to show, with only a limited time and constant pushback and refusals, to go all in and make the worst situation one of the most impactful to hundreds of thousands to even millions.

[@JoshtheOverlander]

Considering what's happened to so many cartoons on networks channel, I'm pretty sure things would have been worse if the owl house got picked up by Nickelodeon. It's still gotten unfortunate turn of events with the Disney channel, but they're pretty much the lesser of two evils

[@bigmanhawkastro]

imagine the "spongebob experience" applied to owl hosue

[@notatallfunctional]

Imagine what’d happen if it were picked up by Cartoon Network/HBO max. It might’ve gotten the same treatment as Infinity Train. (For those out of the loop, that is not a good thing. Infinity Train got majorly shafted recently.)

[@bluelephant8257]

Another idea is to have a spin-off on Vee from her time in the Boiling Isles, to her time in summer camp, then to Luz and her friends arrival to the human world.

[@RB01.10]

Even if it’s not a show, maybe a comic could work

[@FurryCombatWombat]

Here is a fun thing. Notice how "Thanks to Them" pretty much starts months after "King's Tide". I don't think it would be impossible for us to get like a 'Season 3.1' where they have episodes such as 'the beach episode' and episodes similar to what Amphibia did for the first part of its 3rd season with the human world culture shock.

[@dmcoub78]

they can easy, I would just call it 2.5.

[@RavenStarMedia]

We wouldn't have got that though. Everything cut, beach episode included, was Boiling Isles related. The Day of Unity was fast-tracked to the Season 2 finale after the cut instead of the Season 3 finale like they originally likely planned,

[@sayba6766]

.

[@maxtes252]

@@RavenStarMedia Well, we could get it now.

[@isaacyepez7426]

6 MORE EPISODES! 6 EPISODES! A hour long this show deserves it

[@Starze]

I would love to see graphic novels to flesh out the story. Its absolutely awful that Disney cut these guys short

[@Sammy_47]

Serves Disney right; I'm glad TOH and Dana got the recognition they deserved and others saw how great of a show it is. The future for Dana looks bright so I'm truly glad for her; who knows, maybe TOH will return in another form (fingers crossed) 😀

[@alien.complex]

I'm so happy that Disney finally realised just how much love this show has gotten from audiences. While there's no hope for the show continuing beyond season 3, this realisation should hopefully mean some other form of content for The Owl House sometime in the future. It's just a shame that so many amazing shows (Ducktales, The Owl House, RotTMNT) are being cancelled because executives have no idea how to market a show or what the public want, etc. etc.

[@RB01.10]

Always end a season with some form of resolution, because nothing is ever a guarantee

[@blackout4328]

Cry harder

[@kaylasilverstein4137]

And it might (MIGHT) also mean that, maybe just maybe, for shows in the future they’ll stop and look around for a little bit longer before choosing what to keep and what to cancel

[@ShadeandShadow4ever]

Short Version: 1. Upset and Angry because of crammed 3rd season 2. The other two ended on good times Amphibia could have gone one well for another season. They could have explored the country's history more. Ducktales ended at a good time. I want more of course, but Ducktales still did good and they didn't draw it out until it got boring. I can hardly stand what they did to The Owl House though! It was also a GOOD SHOW. I can't stand how they CRAMMED way TOO MUCH into that 40 minute 1st 3rd season episode, though I was still happy for it. I also found it to be too dark though. It deserved a good 4 episodes at least for the "human world part", with Hunter's transformation and everyone interacting with the human world. Thanks to this video I now get that Disney only wants non-story line shows though.

[@RB01.10]

@@ShadeandShadow4ever The darkness of the special surprised me. Some moments were quite intense and caught me off guard. But that makes a bigger impact IMO

[@burblesmurge]

I wish disney would make rides and attractions based of their animated shows at their parks

[@StarcoFanatic]

Yep, there's definitely a silver lining to this whole thing now! Before their realization that the show was actually popular and successful after all, Disney was most likely NOT interested in continuing the franchise in any way whatsoever. But now, since it's too late to continue the main show, I'll bet dollars to donuts that they're much more open to continue it in other ways now. How they do that we'll have to see, but I think this franchise isn't over just yet 😁

[@lukeburbank5208]

I say spin off Dana was open to a spin off so we shall see

[@grumpyteen6641]

What's a donut?

[@ExtremeWreck]

They probably won't bother continuing it. EDIT: grammar

[@projectz975]

its weird to me that the reason they didnt like the show is that it didnt appeal to their arbitrarily decided demo of young kids... when literally all they had to do is realize that its a great show for older kids. i guess its an 'old tv' thing to decide who your show is for before its even made, but today with streaming and all that its easier for ANY kind of person to find your show. seems like itd make more sense to just put the thing out and then wait and see who actually gets interested, then you can start determining your target demographic based on the people that are actually watching.

[@catbatrat1760]

Yeah, but that would arguably be considered a risk, which puts just about any executive's tail between their legs.

[@mariaduck2063]

@@catbatrat1760 Look, I know it is a risk because of ad revenue, but what if people made the episode, had a small viewing (to determine which audience it's best for), and then advertised it with who liked it best, then made deals with ad companies. I mean, all members of Disney cooperate already sold their souls and blood. What's a little cash, right? I'm not trying to argue with you. I want to know if this idea is probable and to throw a couple of little digs at Disney. However, if this idea works, but Disney won't do it, I think I'll start making changes in my plan for the future and try to create my own network with even more animated shows that appeal to multiple groups. I apologize for the small mini-rant today.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

@@catbatrat1760 Where's the risk though? When a show is good I tell my friends about it. Do people actually pay attention to ads? Maybe a little, but I really question if they're as impactful these days as they may have once been. Over saturation and all.

[@Appletank8]

Remember how Teen Titans and Young Justice got canned because too many girls like it?

[@catbatrat1760]

@@Appletank8 .........what? Please tell me this is isn't actually proven. Please tell me they didn't do something THAT dumb.

[@jennifermems1111]

To me, the strength of the show--the reason I love it--is because of the feeling of Eda, Luz, and King as a found family that genuinely care about and look out for each other.

[@chineduokafo4856]

Now that Disney understands the wrought behind its blunder, it can make better decisions in the future. Though a slim chance, we could be getting a spin-off for the show to make up for these unethical transgressions.

[@clubkiddxx]

I hope disney keeps making bad decisions so they keep losing money ❤️

[@GeneralCatDad]

@@clubkiddxx fuck disney broooooooo

[@jeremydale4548]

YES! Unethical, IMMORAL, STUPID transgressions brought on by DICKHEADS who deserve NOTHING but bad things in their life

[@somethinganonymous1723]

I think you're vastly overestimating the abilities of the average corporate executive to learn and grow from mistakes

[@miguelvillanueva6542]

I’d love to see the scrapbook be turned into episodes after the show ends. Like a spin-off of the series a few years after the main storyline and then they go into detail about their time on Earth and then that’s when they’ll go into depth about every moment that they did in the human realm that’s on the scrapbook. Then, who knows we get some new storyline along with the spin-off as well

[@birdsbirdsandmorebirds6251]

Omg yes!! We get our 20 more adventures without it being weird and out of place! Some of them could even be flashbacks to the boiling Isles!!!!

[@Full_Metal_Angel]

She got Disney to essentially admit they were wrong! Dana is an absolute mad lass and I love her.

[@JolteOnWisconsin]

They should make a 10-episode special that fills in the time between the gang going to the human realm and season 3

[@totallynormal5690]

omg

[@totallynormal5690]

they should!

[@candycane3739]

They really should. There was SO SO MUCH content possible, and if there is ever another special I think this is an avenue that needs to be explored in great detail because there is so much we were robbed of! I think it's the least Disney can do.

[@lemonberry3242]

I agree. one of my favorite parts of the owl house was watching every witch get so confused with anything human. at the end of season two i got excited seeing as they were in the human realm, but as expected disney disappoints

[@luckyjoe8951]

Since Disney realized it's successful, I don't know it will work, but I hope they finally give Owl House another chance and give them lots of episodes and maybe seasons.

[@Jandros98]

Me too, I want more of the main series ):

[@ExtremeWreck]

Nah abandon all hope on that happening.

[@swarlock]

I only wish. I hope they learn never to.underestimate their audience again.

[@chefboiarby304]

They'll make a prequel series to both Gravity Falls and The Owl House about Slippin' Stanley in his con artist days as Andre "8-Ball" Alcatraz and about the adventures he went on with Eda "Marilyn" Clawthorne entitled "Better Call 8-Ball."

[@WorldMania03]

But I thought they finnish animating the third season and is just waiting for next year, right?

[@fate7418]

I really hope that there’s a spin-off series, maybe about Eda or even maybe about Philip and Caleb originally going to the boiling isles, we have enough now to know what happened but we don’t really know what happened with the build up… it’s be pretty cool to get any kind of spin-off of the owl house in general though

[@jam_med4142]

it genuinely makes me so upset that the show was cancelled and shortened. i will genuinly cry for years once its finished, it will feel like something has literally been ripped from my soul. i will always have some tiny hope that disney will ask Dana to pick it up again, although i know this wont really happen.

[@lilydragon2129]

Exactly man, I was so fucking depressed after watching thanks to them, simply because I saw what was being stifled, like, it was amazing and it just crushed me because the better the episode got, the more upset I was that the story was killed early

[@jam_med4142]

@@lilydragon2129 fr. seeing that 40 minute episode really locked it into place that it’s about to end.

[@calutulalbastru6491]

I get that it's too late for a whole season 3, but why is it too late for a season 4?

[@jam_med4142]

@@calutulalbastru6491 are you dumb? season 3 is already planned out. they have wrapped the story up with the 3 eps we are going to get. they no longer have enough money to push out a longer season since Disney cancelled on them. the only way we would get a real season 3 or a season 4 is if Dana and her team moved with cartoon network, netflix, etc. but this won’t happen because Dana doesn’t want to move it and Disney already has rights to the show.

[@calutulalbastru6491]

@@jam_med4142 That's what I said. I said that I know that it's too late for season 3, I just asked about season 4, chill. You are dumb if you didn't understand an easy message

[@FluffyJackie]

A mini series about their time in the human realm would be so cool, I'd love to see the (montage (and) scrapbook moments in motion.✨

[@lemonberry3242]

fr! even if it is the 11 minute episodes as long as it has good writing and funny moments i would love to see a bit of worry but also fun and excitement.

[@maximooooose]

i don’t really watch disney channel or carton network anymore and haven’t done for about 2 years, and have no idea what shows are on and new, but The Owl House has been everywhere and has encouraged me to go watch it! Sad how it was cancelled 😢

[@RB01.10]

I wouldn’t call it canceled since it will have an ending, unlike many shows of the past who never got a proper ending

[@josiecroix]

After cementing the short-lived length of Season 3 and dealing with much very well-deserved anger towards them, you can only imagine the conversation in the Exec room: "Well, it seems we were wrong lol." "Yeah, we couldn't admit this _before_ the damage was done, but now that we've already gotten our way let's just call it an 'oopsie' and move on as if nothing happened." "The public will see it, think 'Oh wow, they admitted it! We're happy now,' and move on even though nothing's changed!" In other words, had they admitted this before cutting S3 short, maybe I'd care. But as they've already gotten their way and aren't going to fix it (obviously), I honestly could not care less and it does not merit their forgiveness. But that's just my two cents. Maybe if they actually did something productive then they could earn it, but if there was any faith in them it's long gone by now.

[@bigmanhawkastro]

oh boy,if they call it an oopsie,the internet is gonna eat them alive

[@josiecroix]

@@bigmanhawkastro They pretty much did if their response was like "Oh no, the show is actually successful." lol

[@bigmanhawkastro]

@@josiecroix point is ,internet is not gonna forgive this incident

[@mariaduck2063]

@@bigmanhawkastro I can agree on that point for sure!

[@HazbinCovenWitch]

Me to Disney Execs:"Congratulations, you played yourselves." 🙂😂

[@jessica-rv1lj]

The saddest is that this was one year ago.😢

[@sammyjones2081]

I've always wondered why shows which grow genuinely popular from taking unique approaches, outright risks or are simply enjoyed and appreciated are often canned or scarcely shown in favour for other shows which, honestly, don't. It's not exactly something that drives me up the wall, but it always really confuses me, especially since if it's about money one could just see how popular it is and act on that.

[@maybe_]

I think the people making decisions are just that out of touch with reality tbh

[@growingsage]

risk aversion is a prime motivator is many business decisions

[@arturferrao7353]

@@Montesama314 There's money to be saved, but I doubt that there's money to be made on cheap shows. People only buy merchandize of media that is good and complex enough for them to want to expand their experience of the show.

[@notovny]

Also sometimes you get a swath of new executives that say "Well, if that ongoing thing succeeds, the previous guy will get credit for it, instead of me. There's a limited number of hours in the broadcast week, and I need to get my projects in there."

[@Dakarai_Knight]

I do like the idea of a young eda show but I also want a sequel show where Luz is training human witches and the boiling isles has new threats etc.

[@JackedThor-so]

Hell yeah; bring back the Titan Hunters; introduce more Titan islands, etc. Turn Jacob Hopkins, the human conspiracy theorist, into a still-quirky but legitimate threat. SO many avenues.

[@Booila]

I am glad that Disney finally admitted to their HUGE mistake, but wish it was much earlier instead. Here hoping for the future for these beloved charecters! I watched it on their channel here on KZbin, so if I helped it in any way, I'm glad!

[@RB01.10]

Best bet is a comic series or maybe even shorts

[@ronnieyates8527]

I'm avoiding Owl House season 3 spoilers, but I decided to watch this video anyways. I was not expecting to see this at 1:51. I'm bisexual and seeing this nearly made me cry. The amount of joy that washed over me was overwhelming and amazing.

[@softpiglet]

There's a lil canonical lesbian Amity snuck into the episode too :)

[@ondry8780]

something important is the fact that the fact they have recognized the popularity of the owl house may actually help future series of this style (this lore-fulled teen with a little more serious moments than the usual series trend that gravity falls started that amphibia and TOH followed in their own ways) to be able to grow without so many obstacles that disney usually gives to them *cof cof, dumb censorship, cof*

[@goodisgodgreat]

i'm watching this video 12 hours after the final episode came out on youtube and the episode already has 1.2M views and it came out on youtube 12 hours ago.

[@aetriandimitri190]

I spoke with Dana Terrace a few months ago at Pixelatl. She said she was 100% on board with a young eda spin off (although she wants a break after owl house) and has even suggested it. However at the time Disney was in no way interested in expanding on the owl house series in comics, books, spin offs or anything. However, due to Disney now seeing that it was a massive mistake and owl house is something people want, they may change their view on that. Which means we can get more content, but not anytime soon since they wouldn't even have started initial concepts yet

[@nyarlathotep9622]

Imagine Disney selling merch of The Owl House, like the different palisman staffs, or Idk Azura's costume! That'd have been very cool

[@philltdp6603]

What could be cool is a sequel series call The Owl Academy or sumthing, cause they still have the issue of The titan trappers knowing King is alive. The fact that belos could reappear( I know, I know) due to the fact we have seen him survive getting completely destroyed 2ce already. Also the fact that the archivists could show up. Also, we were robbed of 3 main turning points of character growth, which is weird to think about considering the insane amount of character growth already. 1. Hunter uncovering calebs past. 2. The fact that the only slice of life Lumity we see is a few pics and an ABSOLUTELY beautiful rain scene. 3. the moments where Camila comes to realize that the quirky outcast little girl she sent to camp, is a strong reliable young woman who can take care of herself. I know that last one is not as important as the others, but I would have loved to see her realize her little girl has grown up. parent growth fan for life, bite me.

[@dr.slurpuff6307]

Honestly I would love to get a series set 10 - 20 years after the show. They could show what happened to everyone after the show, some episodic adventures with new character (to appease the great and terrible mouse), maybe even have a new villian like the agents from Amphibia.

[@1world1heartjake]

I just remember Luz's line about having time for some more wacky adventures thanks to this

[@Narutonarutonaruto85]

I do wonder how a spin off about young Eda would end. Being a prequel it has some restrictions. For example she won't be able to break her curse or get the level of management she has today. Granted she could discover those potions.

[@TheBoss-ic8le]

Anytime I hear/read "Disney Brand", I physically recoil.

[@testerwulf3357]

I'd really enjoy a second series detailing their human world adventures..or edas life as you mentioned! Seriously nice for disney to finally admit they utterly messed up, in their faces!! We all tried to tell them it was good but they ignored us

[@RB01.10]

Doubtful we’ll get a full length show at this point. Best bet is maybe shorts or a comic

[@testerwulf3357]

@@RB01.10 Considering they know how popular the main show was, and how disappointed fans were at the cut, I doubt they'd make that mistake again via making it short via shorts..

[@RB01.10]

@@testerwulf3357 Maybe, but I’m still glad the finale delivered and ended things on good terms for the characters. Hell, at least Disney allowed the writers to craft a proper ending, many shows that get cancelled don’t even get that luxury

[@zaybeol]

6:10 “i’ve never been more hopeful for the future of these characters.” _i see what you did there._

[@Outshinedsg]

If nothing else, I think Dana has shown that she is extremely talented as a director and is capable of creating commercially successful shows. I really hope she has the opportunity to direct other creative projects in the future. Would love to see her other stories come to life.