Disney is learning from Andor's success

[@itsjoshh]

Sometimes the best stories are the ones that know how to end. (Breaking Bad, Gravity Falls, The Good Place, etc). We’ve seen time and time again stories being told that keep running simply for cash grabs. I’m really glad Andor is committing to typing their story into Rogue One

[@kirkdarling4120]

This is very true. It's gotten to the point that I wait for streaming series to conclude before I start them (looking at _you,_ "Counterpart"). I continued watching the "Lost in Space" reboot only after hearing that they did, indeed, intend to conclude the story (which, of course, never happened with the original television series or the movie).

[@adamliske]

If the writers know exactly how a story ends (the end written before the beginning) then they know exactly what to do and more importantly not to do.

[@itsjoshh]

@@kirkdarling4120I’m the same way! Though, for Andor and a few other shows I was definitely watching week to week. Andor gripped me SO quickly with those first three episodes, and I was salivating for more every single week 😂

[@mrzirak792]

To be honest R1 is worse than Andor

[@mrzirak792]

@@SwaggerLikeUz dude all i said is "ROGUE ONE IS WORSE THAN ANDOR", and you still managed to misread it?

[@SavedByZero]

Hopefully Andor proved to both Disney (and Lucas) that Star Wars can also be adult-friendly.

[@sirmarshall9521]

It can, but the spirit of Star Wars will always be action/adventure and coming of age. That's what makes Star Wars what it is.

[@dorrito]

Don't need a bunch of cuss words to be adult friendly. S1 showed that.

[@thehikingcucumber3410]

There is good adult and bad adult. Acolyte was cringe bad adult. And Andor was just amazing adult and good Sci-Fi

[@mrzirak792]

Isn't star wars always adult "friendly" unless we talk about children shows like Ewoks and Droids cartoon? Even Young Jedi Knights series with Solo twins was a fine read

[@mrzirak792]

@@SavedByZero btw Lucas did knew that Star Wars can be adult friendly. Entire Star Wars Republic comic that TCW was based off is adult friendly, though TCW is still watered down

[@Eagle-mn9mo]

"Relying on nostalgia" in Disney better translates to "we don't have any new ideas, so the old ones will have to do."

[@potato_duud6166]

They should really try to rely on nostalgia a bit more often because the shit that they pump out is ridiculous

[@Bayofthe91st]

The remakes, reboots and sequels brainrot

[@Jabullz]

Even these "new ideas" you are talking about aren't at all new ideas and rather pulled straight out of Legends material or reworked/reworded rips of the older films. They've never had a new idea for Star Wars.

[@scottborham2838]

@@potato_duud6166 well said. Glad I'm not the only one that thinks this

[@scottborham2838]

@@Jabullz well said.

[@nick90000]

Andor can and should be rewatched in decades to come

[@stone_pilot]

I do think Andor is good but I still think it’s overhyped. It personally feels like it’s still missing something. It’s better than a lot of the other slop Disney has made.

[@bigmacnw]

​@@stone_pilot disagree with it being overhyped but respect ur opinion to me, I've never watched a disney star wars series (including mando) and enjoyed every episode- until andor. Every episode meant something and wasnt just filler trash (insert boba and obi wan episodes). It's a well thought out story with good writing, acting, score, and setting. I'd rather over-glaze a series that actually hit the nail on the head than downplay it's successes. I'd take 1 show that is similar to andor over 10 shows that are like boba/obi wan any day of the week.

[@stone_pilot]

@@bigmacnw Yeah that’s super fair. In the context of everything else, Andor 100% deserves to be glazed. I guess it’s just that given the buzz around it, you might expect to walk away feeling like you just watched Game of Thrones season 1, Arcane s1, Inception, The Big Short, Peaky Blinders, etc. I also think that although the show touched on some dark themes, for the sake of being kid friendly-ish it didn’t follow through with them completely. I do think that took away from the story’s potential to some extent. But yeah it’s not a bad show by any means, to be honest it’s similar to Mandalorian season 1 for me. If they were just a little more daring, a little less kiddish at points, damn it could be so good. Like right next to my favorite movies. As is, it’s like in solid A tier for me.

[@monika2745]

Andor was the show I watched because it was SW, but also stayed because it reached and achieved way beyond just being a token SW. To me Andor used SW as a back drop that tied into the larger story, but also flawlessly managed to exist in its on right, it felt like properly discovering lesser known SW universe. I loved it.

[@Hotarg]

I've found that the GOOD shows or movies that come from an established IP tend to tell a story first. They just happen to be set in whatever universe they're in.

[@jlau7017]

I remember feeling the slow pace when I originally watched Andor and was completely enthralled by the season finale. I am currently rewatching the season and really appreciate the nuance and build up. Giving credit where credit is due, Disney made a great decision to stay out of the way of the showrunner and letting them tell this story.

[@TigerShady]

LET. HIM. COOK. 👏

[@theojenner1902]

Am surprised Disney hasn’t asked gilroy to do more or supervise other shows for quality control

[@JoshuaBarbato]

@@theojenner1902he’s taking a break from Star Wars after s2 he’s been doing Andor for like 5+ years

[@charlie7mason]

@@JoshuaBarbato Well deserved I'd say. And also, it's good that the creativity doesn't get wringed out the artist as it is something that takes its own time and energy and cannot be forced with a schedule and a paycheck. Both Rogue One and Andor prove that. These are stories that know when and how to wrap up and end.

[@theterminaldave]

It's the first installment since Empire Strikes Back that I enjoyed every aspect of.

[@DzinkyDzink]

You didn't like the ewokes? What the hell is wrong with you?

[@waxwars9183]

The only thing missing was the wars in the stars except for the one awesome scene.

[@windowguylol]

Mandalorian season 1 and 2 say hello.

[@theterminaldave]

@@windowguylol unfortunately the cutesy aspect of yoda eating the "fish" lady's offspring was just too cheesy for me,. I stopped watching after that point.

[@arnavnigam9259]

​@@theterminaldave oh come on it was fun 😂

[@MrBlooDeck]

The change to Fight the Empire was actually a good change tbh, a call to action sounds better given the themes of the show.

[@eosborne6495]

Yeah, I’m so desensitized to people saying fuck this politician or fuck that party and then not doing anything about it that saying fuck something sounds more like lazy resignation than a call to arms.

[@thezplayer3002]

This is one of the rare occasions when Disney actually did the right thing, sometimes a writer needs oversight

[@MrBlooDeck]

​@@thezplayer3002 Yeah, that's the extent of the meddling you really want.

[@andruidos13]

Having her suddenly say "Fuck the Empire" would have been unintentionally funny at the end of that powerful speech and might have undermined the scene.

[@ArK047]

If they want to cuss, invent Star Wars cusses instead.

[@Lucas-ek2uc]

Kriff is a word in Star Wars canon that’s seemingly a replacement for the f word

[@kungalexander829]

Nerf herder

[@terrylong8894]

To be fair to Star Wars, inventing fake swear words is hard for some reason. The only show I can think of that successfully pulled that off in recent memory was Battlestar Galactica.

[@TTSP907]

The reason is hard is probably because it often sounds awkward or unnatural to the audience. I read a lot of books that use modified swear words and I’m not a big fan of their function.

[@FutureMartian97]

Dank ferrick

[@allanjstark]

For Years i looked back at TESB, as the Peak of Star Wars. With Andor i have scenes i can watch over and over again, because they are awesome

[@june-ls1hw]

Andor was the best Star Wars I have ever watched by far. It was also some of the best TV in general.

[@jackzfun]

Let us not forget the brilliance of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

[@shogun2215]

What brilliance? It was a completely redundant film, with completely pointless characters and creepy CGI Leia and Tarkin.

[@dokjung3]

​@@shogun2215 if you think the plot of sabotaging and stealing the death star plans is redundant, then you dont know shit about Star Wars or just plain stupid. Either way, you shouldnt be talking.

[@fundhund62]

Rogue One was terrible 🙈

[@joelawry1064]

This sounded like a good thing at first, but bringing up that line from season 1 has me a little worried now. 😅 "Fuck the Empire" would have been cringe as hell; it was the right choice to change that.

[@RedcoatTrooper]

Agreed definitely an example of censorship being beneficial, I get that it would have been shocking to the audience but it would have sounded crude and undermined Marva's speech

[@kirkdarling4120]

Agreed. "Fight the Empire" is a direct and unmistakable call to rebellion...it's much more in line with what Maarva would have said.

[@HamletTwin]

Agreed Star Wars should have its own curse words, and thankfully it already does. Dank ferrik, poodoo, etc. We should never hear the words fuck or shit in the Star Wars universe imo. It would've been cringe and immersion breaking.

[@shadowtrooper3764]

I think a much better example of what "creative freedom and no notes" meant for season one is stuff like them being able to have mirrors and knives, which they were prohibited from having in Rogue One. Dumb rules like that were not forced on them.

[@claypoly]

It’s interesting that so many comments think “f*** the empire” would’ve been too crude. I wonder how much of this is US sensibilities vs European. While it’s considered very rude to swear in the UK and Ireland it’s also seen by many to be an appropriate way to express a very strong feeling and that sometimes there’s no better or stronger word. Personally I like both versions but when I watch the finale, my head canon is that Marva does indeed say “f***”. She’s so angry and so upset at what they have taken.

[@lindsaybruce1396]

The ONLY metric that Disney cares about is the bottom line. They don't care about the stories, the characters, or the universe in the way that Lucas did. They only care about how many lunchboxes they can shift. Now obviously one can draw a line between a quality production like Andor and commercial success, but this is not always evident (see the MCU for example) and really well made productions that get rave support from fans and critics can still be commercial "flops". However, it's really encouraging that, if true, Gilroy received no "notes" (read "edicts") from the Office of Kathleen Kennedy or her white slaver masters, and that can only be seen by fans as A Good Thing and bodes well for Season 2.

[@snowyluna]

Honestly Fight the empire fit better , like why everyone started fighting if not for that last line? Sounds have been really darn cringe and out of place.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Agreed. "Fight" is a genuine and unmistakable call to specific actions of resistance. "F*ck the Empire" could just as well mean "Ignore the Empire."

[@ChrisWEEZ]

Ferrick the Empire!

[@411bvRGiskard]

Keep making shows this good and they will come

[@ChrisWEEZ]

Hearing this is better than any trailer they could show us

[@user-microburst]

You never now. Fight the Empire is stronger

[@alanhindle3149]

I had heard the second season of Andor was to be compacted, with each three episodes covering a years events, bringing it right up to Rogue One and therefore the end of the story. I don't know if this is true, this is simply how I remember something I think I read- so if there's been a change or somebody knows better, I would be delighted to be better informed. Regardless, given the show's present cultural momentum I hope now it will be allowed to breathe freely and run for as long as its creators wish.

[@jaredmerrill]

Reads title Presses X to doubt

[@toby7504]

Only series Disney produced l have ever liked and looking forward to the 2. seson

[@xtrafunk]

High quality storytelling is timeless, and by definition operates in a much less saturated market. Hence why classics remain classics and continue to attract audience members who weren't even born when they first released (Aliens, T2, LOTR..). IMHO Lucasfilm needs to accept that Star Wars isn't always guaranteed a spot in the youth cultural zeitgeist and instead focus on creating a content library that can stand the test of time. Given that, Andor is exactly what they need : something that today's children can grow into. Alternatively I guess the literal boomers who run Lucasfilm can continue deluding themselves into thinking they have their fingers on the cultural pulse... but I honestly can't see that working out for them

[@CamGoldberg3796]

Don’t give me hope Eck

[@justcraziii]

Andor! Woo!

[@3TYKX]

The only thing that will bring me back to Disney+ is Andor 2.

[@ekij133]

Comforting to hear that Disney appear to be resisting the urge to Kenedyise Andor Season 2 as they did with Mandy S03

[@isaac15752]

andor was what star wars should´ve and was all about, fighting against oppression and imperialism, its bizarre how many people had and still have no clue the show was a allegory of the Vietnam invasion, with USA being the empire obviously.

[@TastyScotch]

Andor good. Write more good shows like Andor. I will watch.

[@lukewilliams8548]

They realized if they tried to make it better they'd ultimately make it worse? Hallelujah.

[@PrismverseTales]

Star Wars is best when it is smart and serious. Star Wars doesn't have to be Marvel

[@reeceemms1643]

To be fair you note that since he has not been given any notes basically means that Tony has essentially full creative control or at least most creative control. But still I would have loved to see the original line because it would have been amazing to see the first ever Star Wars F bomb.

[@ICU1337]

Its one of the lowest viewed SW's projects on Disney... I think the only show to be viewed less is Acrolyte. If not for the fact that the show was pre-greenlite for 2 seasons, I dont even know if Disney would've stuck by it. Nice words on the internet from the fandom doesnt pay the bills. People have to actually watch Andor. Hopefully Disney does something about its advertisement for the show to get people interested in this for S2.

[@Martin-di9pp]

I love Andor but I always understood it was underrated and had a low-ish number of viewers. Did word to mouth do it's job eventually to justify the production cost?

[@genopsdir]

I highly doubt Disney is learning. They haven’t taken the blinders off yet. Andor was the stars aligning in a chaotic mess.

[@MrStephenmindo]

Hope the execs and guilroy know what they are doing coz it absolutely backfired for the Joker 2

[@OptimusWombat]

Pretty sure there won't be any musical numbers in Andor S2.

[@BalthasarGelt-x2d]

“Fuck the empire” would have been super cringe. “Fight” is an explicit call to action.

[@Ian-nl9yd]

Andor season 2 will guest-star Ahsoka, Bo-Katan Kryze, Darth Maul and Boba Fett. Andor season 3 will bring back Keris and Kino and they will be Cassian's best friends.

[@Messi1dagoat]

Let’s go

[@canny7x]

It seems completely obvious to me that Andor is the Best Show of the Disney Star Wars Era. Even better than the Mandalorian, though for many I'm sure Mandalorian is their favorite. It's a prime example of stellar script writing and execution. But I'm still skeptical that Disney understands how outstanding it is... They are just too mired in overly simplistic (a.k.a. Childish) storytelling.

[@fundhund62]

To my mind, Andor is by far the worst of the Star Wars TV shows to date. It's run-of-the-mill science-fiction content, and poorly made at that.

[@canny7x]

@@fundhund62 Really!?! I don't even classify Star Wars as 'Sci-Fi' so our viewpoints are widely divergent from the start. And while I accept the fact that you have the right to form an opinion different from my own... I suspect you are just trying to be a 'Troll'.

[@fundhund62]

@@canny7x I didn't say Star Wars is science-fiction. But I suspect you are being a troll, too 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@canny7x]

@@fundhund62 No I wasn't being a Troll. IMHO Star Wars is Fantasy not Sci-Fi. And No other Disney Era Star Wars production has been consistently Entertaining. Now you don't agree with me on that, which is fine, but I have just as much a right to form my own opinions as you do. Have a great day!

[@fundhund62]

@canny7x Sure, go ahead. I agree Star Wars is fantasy, which is one the reasons why Andor was so terrible, because it turned a space fantasy into run-of-the-mill science-fiction, and even added a dystopian slant to it.

[@marckrieger3277]

God i hope we get mor shows like andor and less shows like ashoka.

[@JoshuaHopkins-j9o]

It's definitely one of those... "are these 2 shows taking place in the same universe"... type of things for me. Though SW is honestly full of that even before Disney

[@marckrieger3277]

@JoshuaHopkins-j9o I see it more like a diffrent approach from the people who made this Show. Ashoka is all about fanservice but Andor is trying something New.

[@JoshuaHopkins-j9o]

@@marckrieger3277 ... That's fairplay... I see Ashokas shortcomings as more than just fanservice issues... but I gotcha

[@fundhund62]

I hope the opposite. Andor is absolutely terrible. Ahsoka, while certainly not great, was lightyears better. They should definitely go the Filoni route, not the Gilroy "Rogue One is not a Star Wars movie, it's a Battle of Britain movie" route 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@SomebodywithaYouTubeaccount]

It’s absolutely hilarious that Star Wars, one of the most popular franchises in the world, with nearly half a century of continuous activity, and a wide range of stories spanning every genre and entertainment medium, has not once ever used the F-word or committed to an extreme MA level. And despite all of this, this is still the most toxic fandom by a long shot. Makes one wonder if an official attempt at a “too-adult-to-watch/read/play” gimmick would actually make things better for everyone in the long run. The only concern would be the quality of the execution, assuming such a project ever launches in the next half-century

[@BigJim5754]

I didn't even like Rogue One that much, its just fine to me, not sure I've even watched it more then once. Andor is so damn good! The dialogue, pacing, acting, just abig chefs kiss to the world. Adult Star Wars all day

[@Excalibruh2004]

I really hope season 2 doesn’t turn out like rushed like Arcane season 2 🙏

[@jacobdaileylmao]

Real

[@stephenwassum2460]

I don’t think it will, Arcane was promised 5 seasons and then had the rug pulled out, whereas the writers of Andor seemed to have only wanted 2 seasons from the start.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Andor was written all at once and Gilroy said He just finished writing season 2 as the Andor finale aired on Disney plus. In fact, season 2 is actually the 2nd half of the "Andor novel" according to Tony Gilroy.

[@Foxbusterofficial]

Arcane wasn't rushed at all wtf are you smoking

[@godzilla5742]

​@@stephenwassum2460 From what I've heard Andor was supposed to have 5 seasons as well, but is now going to be only 2.

[@chrisspratlin5656]

Andor is one of the best if not the best series Lucasfilm has ever produced under Disney. Just like Rogue One is the best of the movies that Disney has ever produced since acquiring Star Wars. It is apparent that Disney has an agenda, and it is not about money making nor great story telling with the Star Wars universe.

[@user-microburst]

Starwars fandom is us: the boomers. Not the milenials and todays kids

[@greencardback]

Millennial here to say you're only half right.

[@user-microburst]

@ half? Ok, still quite right. Unless you like the 3 second movies (‘episodes’ 1, 2 and 3). Those were an abomination already

[@VideogameFrames]

Doubt but hopefully

[@KenanKu-so3le]

How can we show Disney how much we love Andor?

[@jaycarn9435]

Andor may have cost 250 million but it was basically like a whole movie trilogy that looked top quality so seems like a bargain to me by today's movie budget standards.

[@eosborne6495]

This might be an unpopular opinion, but even though I love Star Wars, I don’t really think endless franchises are good for storytelling no matter how well done they are. Would I love it if we got a new mainline Star Wars trilogy with good writing and acting? Of course I would. But I would like it even more if we could just have new original stories with their own unique characters and world building. And I think that’s why I like Andor so much. It doesn’t really try that hard to be Star Wars. Shit, if you replace the space ships with trains and the planets with European cities, it could be a WWII era spy thriller with very little reskinning. So I do hope that Disney learns from Andor. But I don’t necessarily think their takeaway should be “we need more hard boiled adult Star Wars media,” because soon enough they’ll just water that down too. Their takeaway should be, “we need to let writers create new stories.”

[@philippe8160]

people's expectations have been lowered to the level that something that is good is seen as something fantastic.

[@mamushi72sai]

Hold on I feel like the negative reaction to nostalgia in ep7 was how we ended up with ep 8 being a disaster and derailing ep9. Nostalgia can be good as long as it's not a complete copy paste. At the same time we don't want them to suddenly derail the entire universe by creating stranger things 2100C.E. Let's not go back to that

[@loadingerror9975]

"frack the empire" would have been pretty good. i think the book swear words are really fun and should make their way into more stuff

[@sztefn]

has anyone actually confirmed marva was ogrinally going to say fuck the empire?

[@aohdan5713]

Andor was good asf im glad darth kathy has no imput

[@Onio_362]

They'll never learn. I accepted this a long time ago. That's why legends is my canon.

[@luminaraunduli2791]

They chose quick cash action spectacle over long lasting quality story making sustainability. Filoni turned SW into watching the nonsensical imaginings from a child playing with his toys.

[@dorrito]

Star Wars doesn't need language. Foul language limits audience and is a cop out for actual good writing. Having said that, that would have been the one appropriate place for it in the SW universe 😂

[@dshock85]

Andor isn't just a good Star Wars show. It's GREAT science fiction and captures the essence of Lucas earlier work THX1138. If on purpose or not.

[@jet_jk]

we should get a new trilogy with new characters

[@paulbooth3953]

Wrong conclusion. The shows that relied on "nostalgia" were bad. No amount of nostalgia "baiting" can fix bad writing. Andor succeeds because it's a good show.

[@RoyStallin]

Andor is in a whole other league - and deep down, the makers of the other crap know it. Teet milkers.

[@JoshuaHopkins-j9o]

I don't really want to hear about the pricetag... Disney drops so much money on absolute trash... this show was epic... and the goodwill and growth in popularity generated by season 1 will make viewership for season 2 worth every penny

[@Obi-WanKenobiTheHighGround]

W

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

Andor is the only good Disney Star Wars property. It's so much more interesting for the Empire to be a cunning, dangerous antagonist and not merely comic relief like 99% of Disney writing.

[@yllbardh]

_Disney is learning from Andor's success_ *Ohhh NO??? It's a trap.*

[@robertpatrick3350]

Quality writing, integrating real scenery, abandoning the shiny utopian cgi feel for a dystopian grimy aesthetic, real actors with stage experience… not the Turkey toothed abominations so beloved by Disney……… all of these things made Andor stand out from the cgi borefest that starwars had become….

[@josemengelez6947]

nature is healing.

[@DerangedHobbit]

Comparing Andor to Acolyte is like comparing diamonds to raw sewerage.

[@fabnapp]

why are certainpeople say "Disney" when they refer to Star Wars when it is made by Lucasfilm. I know they do own that but still folks are able to say Pixar, Marvel Studios,, 20th Century Studios, 20th Century Animation, Searchlight Pictures. ESPN, Freeform, FX, National Geographic and Hulu without calling them Disney-Something-Something?

[@willek1335]

Because the ship under the georgian era was different to Disney. Outside a few main things, like prequel, OT, and tv series, the legends was thrown out the window, and so did their fans. Would you prefer certain people say "KK" rather than "Disney"?

[@kungalexander829]

The censorship ironically made things alot of better Fight the Empire is more powerful, fitting and less cringy to Fuck the Empire where it sounds forced and unnecessary if not stupid In universe cuss words are also more immersive than real world cuss I'm worried that 2nd season will have alot of these unesscary profanity in the dialogue just to make the show seem edgy and adult, 1st season didnt relied 9n profanity and it works very well

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

Even if we set awkwardness of an F-bomb in Star Wars aside, I think “fight the Empire” just works better, since it’s a direct call to action.

[@nichad29]

I totally agree that the word fuck should never be used in star wars. The reason is "fornicate under consent of the king" makes absolutely no sense in a galaxy far far away

[@julesds2516]

Honestly I prefer "Fight the empire". "Fuck the empire" would have felt uncanny. Like the stupid "your mom" joke in Episode 8.

[@AlexSDU]

If KK still running Lucasfilm, then they never learn.

[@navyman8903]

I would love to believe this, but the press around Rey and the products they're producing say the opposite.

[@Maria_Banks]

Me when Disney says they are learning from their mistakes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ2ymImcp9F8b6ssi=qicEjSalAs4G9zL3

[@thelovely1]

Hated Andor Loved Acolyte Not digging Skeleton Crew so far I'm still going to watch all of it but Andor sucks it's so depressing and we know what happens... a war A war happens Andor is like watching the clone wars

[@willumbermarchant5510]

We just want good writing ffs. Stop saving money and time on writing and blowing it on effects.

[@philipp594]

Andor was a commercial failure.

[@chaseeggleston8814]

No Disney are not learning from andor, i don't were your getting this idea from but don't bullshit me.

[@ronanbugber6266]

Honestly, Disneys biggest issue is honestly politically charged shows/movies/hiring.

[@ak102986]

Or it is because Disney is going to cancel it since it was not as big of a success as everything said? Andor is terrible in my opinion.

[@thomasthemtman]

Down with woke

[@Nio744]

Disney only learns the wrong lessons.

[@chasx7062]

is it "from the River to the Sea"? hehe

[@alexdamaceno]

The people involved in “Rogue One” and “Andor” should be in charge of Lucasfilm. Enough with nostalgia-bait and lazy DEI

[@_Dovar_]

Nothing short of a total and outright de-woke-ification of Lucasfilm will suffice.

[@fundhund62]

Andor was the worst Star Wars TV show to date. If they learned something in the process, then hopefully to do it differently next time 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@AnkardTan]

slow learners eh?

[@Elayzee]

No. They really are NOT.

[@froghammer]

No.. they're not. They'll keep making the same mistakes as always.

[@yetifive-oh2242]

Go woke go broke? Good story without pushing a lame agenda?

[@Boc_theSeamster]

there's a lesbian couple in andor

[@christopheromarrah1785]

Until episode 3 then the woke stuff starts

[@196cupcake]

I'm all for Ezra using the world between worlds to save Andor

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

I feel like it would cheapen much and it would kinda be jumping the shark

[@officialmonarchmusic]

Literally the definition of jumping the shark

[@ZenMonkeyGod]

One of the dumbest things I've read in a while.

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

Nostalgia give me a break. The force, sith, Jedi, and lightsaber fights. Are the backbone and soul of the Starwars franchise

[@tk-6967]

Please please be good.

[@JohnSmith-jj2yd]

The most disappointing part is that no matter how good season 2 is, they're cramming the entire remaining showrun into season 2 and that's it, cut to Rogue One and everybody dies.

[@itsjoshh]

Sometimes the best stories are the ones that know how to end. We’ve seen time and time again stories being told that keep running simply for cash grabs. Walking dead or GOT is a great example. I’m really glad Andor is committing to typing their story into Rogue One

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

According to Tony Gilroy "Andor is a novel" via 24 episodes/chapters. Season one was the 1st half & season 2 is the 2nd half of the novel.

[@beachdude0042]

@@itsjoshh Exactly this. A longer show does not inherently mean a better show, and there are too many examples to count of successful shows that overstayed their welcome and lost quality control.

[@JohnSmith-jj2yd]

​@@itsjoshhabsolutely, although I'd disagree on GoT; part of the problem with the last two seasons was exactly that they were trying to speed run the seasons, which completely messed up arcs and flow. I'm hopeful this will be good, but I do worry they're going to try and stuff the proverbial three pounds of sausage into a one pound bag...

[@shadowtrooper3764]

Like someone else said, the 5 season idea was cut before production. They didn't decide to cut the series down after the first season released, it was planned to be this way. I agree 5 seasons would've been amazing, but Gilroy and Diego Luna have both stated it'd be too much for them. They're ending on a high, better to leave you wanting more than to end with disappointment.

[@Platica.Vasile]

This is my last like and view to a Star Wars related content. What Star Wars was is no more, the purpose of it all was perverted and detracted to directions that were never supposed to be associated with Star Wars.

[@scottborham2838]

How the hell did this get a second season ? It was garbage . Slow pace with boring characters. The prison scene was just a remake of THX1138. Best part of the hole series was the last 30 seconds when you seen them building the Death Star.

[@eyespy3001]

*INT. LUCASFILM BOARDROOM - DAY* The sleek and modern boardroom is filled with executives and creatives, seated around a long table *KATHLEEN KENNEDY* (addressing the people in the room) You know, Tony Gilroy has produced some of the best Star Wars content of the past…25 years. He has brought a much-needed maturity to this IP that hasn’t been seen since Empire Strikes Back, and both the critics AND the fans seem to really like it. Should we put him in charge of our next tentpole projects? Let’s take a vote… *EVERYONE IN THE ROOM* (unanimously) NO!!! *KATHLEEN KENNEDY* Agreed! We’ll hire the guy who films Skittles commercials.