Disney's Pixar Problem

Disney is killing everything and we need to stop it before it's too late.

[@ianesgrecia8568]

I love how disney response to their CEO and directors failures is to fire other people instead of the ones responsable for the lack of actual money. Not even lowering their salary

[@ChrisTomson]

That’s how capitalism works

[@netherfreakultima4498]

That's crossing the line, isn't it?

[@Disneyfan82]

​@@ChrisTomson You mean communism and dictatorship.

[@Disneyfan82]

​@Lind Morn This is not the American way to make business decisions

[@ianesgrecia8568]

@@ChrisTomson And yet the head of Nintendo cut his own salary to help the people of the company...

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

Disney needs to allow the creatives run their departments again. Inside Out is a great movie, but even then the whole "____ but with emotions" trope was getting old and Elemental looks like an even more tired take on it. I guarantee if "Up" or "Wall-E" were pitched today, Disney executives would have thrown them out, because they don't have what people like Bob Iger thinks would appeal to people.

[@alexlestat]

Was igner not in charge when those movies released?

[@sky0kast0]

He probably didn't leave his desk back then but now he's running around hoping to trade a dime for a dozen farraris

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

@Alexlestat he was, but John Lasseter was still at Pixar, so he was able to protect Pixar's identity until they found a very feeble excuse to fire him. Iger's head started inflating around 2015 and he started taking the idiots on Twitter seriously (not to mention Kathleen Kennedy's slow and steady destruction of Star Wars), that's why nothing feels authentic anymore, all the stories at Disney have to be approved by committee and have to have a checklist of things in them before they can be made. And I used to like Pete Docter, but he has next to no creative control, he's a sellout. It doesn't matter though, I'd put money on Pixar and Disney Animation merging into one division within the next 5 years, Disney doesn't have infinite resources to spend on 2 separate animation studios if only one of them is making a profit.

[@alexlestat]

@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 I had completely forgotten how Lasseter was the backbone of Pixar until he was outed. But yeah I 100% agree with you. Funny how the only thing keeping Disney afloat is their parks while they're literally burning everything else to the ground..

[@CinnamonGrrlErin1]

​@Alexlestat even the parks are coming apart at the seams (literally, if you look closely at the monorail supports and more than a few rides seem to be in desperate need to maintenance). Plus the billion-dollar Galactic Starcruiser lasting barely a year and a half, and the price of everything going up in general (especially food and electricity), I'd be surprised if the company as a whole was breaking even right now. Plus they're going to eat the cost of Hulu soon, so that's another strike against them.

[@---ut6fk]

Disney had massive layoffs, my father included. They just let him go for no reason after years of hard work. He didn't even work in a part of Disney that was suffering. Of course those in charge don't even receive a paycut.

[@isiah82104]

I’m sorry to here that. I thank him for his contributions to some great films.

[@hunterolaughlin]

I’m sorry to hear that. I hope your father will get back on his feet.

[@Nexus-Flare]

That’s the thing Disney doesn’t look at their problems as ok we didn’t do well so we should try harder and try original solutions. They just blame the people who help them but don’t blame the ones who don’t. I wish your father the best by the way.

[@fairoadiary]

hoping your father finds a better outlet that’s so unfair :(

[@dr.squash4782]

Disney is political organization now and needs to fall for their woke ideals. I'm sorry your dad was in their organization and laid off. I hope he was able to pick up another job quickly

[@shadowleon659]

I feel really bad for what's happened to Pixar in recent years.

[@almightyloaf5434]

Me Too, I hope they have some sort of comeback because I do believe they can make good movies still

[@kootunesscrewy]

Personally, their quailty went downhill after Up. Yes, they did got better with Inside Out and Coco. But even then, they were the only two that were masterpieces.

[@shadowleon659]

@@kootunesscrewy Can't argue with that.

[@almightyloaf5434]

@@kootunesscrewy I mean who do you think is at fault here for the downfall of Pixar?

[@jeffreygao3956]

I wouldn’t!

[@onepresence9460]

The thing that bothered me the most is how Disney just released Pixar’s original films like Soul, Luca and Turning Red straight to Disney Plus without a theatrical release, while Lightyear was the only one that made it, because it’s part of Toy Story. Ironically, Lightyear flopped and the box office, and those 3 original films were more talked about and liked. I’m glad Elementals is getting a theatrical release.

[@fluffywhompus]

I feel like Luca, soul and turning red would probably get more love if they were actually in theaters because everyone would be able to see it

[@PhrenSo768]

In my country I remember Luca got a theatrical release because we didn't have disney+ at the time and it was such a refreshing and heartwarming movie to watch. I loved it so much and it was also beautiful. I'm so sad that a big part of the world couldn't enjoy it on the big screen :( These movies deserved so much more.

[@Halfort57]

​@@fluffywhompusActually NO. In Turning Red's case it would have been an abject box office bomb

[@LiamDeege]

I haven’t even seen Luca or Turning Red but from my personal opinion, I do not like Turning Red’s story because of my own experiences as a middle schooler and 13 year old which did not age well for me. I didn’t mind Lightyear or Soul that much, but they could have been better I will agree.

[@ChicagoMel23]

I’d say give Turning Red a watch before judging it

[@jjju3]

1:30 its disneys fault, actually. disney sabotaged the end of its 2d era on purpose, giving zero advertisement to films like treasure planet and atlantis because they _planned for them to fail._ the reason was because 3d animation wasn't unionized, and hence was substantially cheaper than union 2d animation. (people misunderstand and say 3d itself is cheaper, it was the labor.)

[@lynntaylor9681]

That's interesting. I wish 3D animation was unionized so 2D animation could come back. Personally I love 2D animation a lot more than 3D.

[@ChicagoMel23]

I highly doubt they would intend for something to fail

[@haydenreese2199]

@@ChicagoMel23 the ppl who made Treasure Planet wanted to green-lit around 10yrs before the movie came out

[@itsjayh]

​@@ChicagoMel23 ur so innocent

[@Pharaohstheif]

The reason I'm not excited for Elemental is because it goes for the most cliché type of pairing in these types of stories, the fire/water one. It's been done to death. Can I get like fire/air, air/earth, water/air, fire/earth, or water/earth outside of Avatar? Something unique with how the elements can play off each other? Or is that too much to ask?

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

Water and air would probably be similar to Aang and Katara.

[@inazuma3gou]

sand............ and Anakin Skywalker

[@Tapstherrealone]

I have mixed feelings for elemental. The cliché jokes were expected, but a of course they’re kind of mandatory to have element jokes in a movie about elements. Then there’s the animation. Pretty unique considering there’s a lot of squash and stretch added in and I think it looks amazing. When the movie comes out, I hope the story isn’t TOO predictable and the overall characters are likeable and the movie as a whole should be bearable to watch.

[@TheReZisTLust]

Ones angry easily and the others calm probably is my character guess

[@hassassinator8858]

Imagine if, instead of them living in cities and shi, they were living in ancient times. The fire girl could have been a soldier or something, and the water guy a sailor or farmer. I might be looking too deep, but there's just so much potential for ideas that went wasted.

[@riftshredder5438]

The only reason Pixar avoided using humans in their movies was because back in the early years of CGI they knew they couldn't make human characters look convincing enough so they used other types of characters instead, just look at the human characters in the first Toy Story movie and you can tell lol

[@lukasribin4168]

Blessing in disguise. Some constraints are better for creativity rather than not.

[@LeviDerringer]

I remember watching a behind the scenes of Toy Story, and during the party scene, literally all the kids were Andy's model, they had to use Hair, caps and other things to make it not so obvious!

[@riftshredder5438]

@LeviDerringer I remember that too, heck that's been going up until The Incredibles, if you were wondering why all the background characters in that movie looked so similar to each other, that was why

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I will never not be angry that Pixar created one of the greatest trilogies of all time in Toy Story and they just continue to ruin it and undermining the franchise’s artistic integrity. You already fucked up with the Buzz Lightyear movie. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR HINT TO LET IT GO DISNEY.

[@EmoryIllustrated]

The Toy Story shorts were honestly the perfect compromise. You get more of your favorite characters in low stakes narratives. There's isn't a need to continue the themes of the previous films, which makes sense when Toy Story 3 concluded those themes.

[@terracottagecheese2767]

@@EmoryIllustrated The Toy Story shorts and specials were pretty great. I especially love Toy Story of Terror, to the point where my sister and I watch it every year for Halloween.

[@BrightWulph]

I'm still not happy they turned Buzz into an idiot who thinks his voice box is his "head voice" and Woddy into a cuck who gave up his voice box and decided to become a "lost toy" just so he could be with Bo. Both male characters were butchered to raise up Gabby and Bo, because "ghurl powa!" -_-

[@marcoanaya7123]

@@BrightWulph It's like if Woody literally gave up his soul (the voice box) to be dead.

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

@Lind Morn I do. And I also blame Pixar for the bad execution.

[@aeon87]

Disney peaked in the renaissance and Pixar were the kings of CGI. Now Dreamworks and Sony are reigning supreme. How far the mighty have fallen.

[@zc8673]

They got complacent, someone else stepped up to the plate.

[@hassassinator8858]

Even fucking ILLUMINATION is doing better this year than Disney and Pixar...

[@Nexus-Flare]

The Mario movie and Into the Spider-verse series of movies are examples of how Disney has stop trying and how these movies have changed animation and movies as a whole. It’s sad cause Kingdom Hearts is another thing that disney influences and the worlds quality can go down if Disney doesn’t fix their own movies.

[@machirim2805]

Eh, Dreamworks struck gold with Puss and Boots but floundered with Ruby Gillman.

[@hassansulaiman3848]

@@hassassinator8858 Fr even illumination😂

[@CrimsonFox36]

Pixar: "We want to make a movie!" Disney: "Great! As long as you meet these prerequisites and criteria."

[@Bustermachine]

We talk a lot about audience fatigue. But I also think there's creator fatigue. And the reality is that Pixar has, I think, has burned through a lot of the novelty of their house style and the sort of stories they're famous for telling in that style. But that house style is also something they're incredibly strongly associated with. It's one of the curses of branding. It's only really notable to us BECAUSE of Pixar's reputation for hitting it out of the park for so long. If this were some other studio, we'd just shrug our shoulders. But it's not, it's PIXAR so we assume there must be some reason other than just . . . they've mined out their vein of ideas constrained to their current model. So what do they do? They try different things. They try developing niche or unusual ideas. I mean, I really liked Onward. Turning Red was bold if nothing else. And I thought Lightyear was merely okay, not at all hateable or bad. But I also agree these aren't the sort of movies that turn everyone's heads and get them to plant their butts in theater seats.

[@princesserika9899]

I agree with you on the movies you've mentioned, I like Turning Red and Onward too. I even rewatched Onward and I still cried. Lightyear was good but that's it

[@ethanol1586]

In just a few short years disney managed to destroy itself, marvel, all of lucasfilm, and pixar. That has to be some sort of world record

[@biazacha]

Spiderverse really highlighting how bad Disney is doing; feels like this is the first time people are super pumped to go watch both animation and a superhero movie in several years. All their stuff is so dull and weak that we don’t even see outrage anymore, people just checked out.

[@christopherjones9536]

​@@lindmorn5909 So this is how capitaIism faIIs. By its own hands

[@Dora-xi5ob]

I wouldn’t say itself. Disney animation studio is its own studio, like Pixar. Disney destroyed that too

[@Will_Parker]

It's a fallacy to say that we can't judge Elemental yet. Disney has spent 50 million+ dollars on advertising to show us exactly whether or not we should watch their movie. Based on what they've shown us it doesn't look good and it is perfectly valid to go ahead and judge it based on that.

[@UFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFL]

Judge the trailers and other things, that’s fine But don’t call it a bad film without seeing it

[@PizzaMan879]

@@UFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFL I agree, if I ever start posting Movie reviews on KZbin, I will at least watch the movie before judging and critiquing it.

[@UFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFLUFL]

@@PizzaMan879 that makes you a good critic Actually no, a critic in general People who just call a movie bad before seeing them aren’t critics. Just idiots

[@aff77141]

The whole point of an advertisement is to judge whether it'll be worth watching. That's literally the point. It's like the saying don't judge a book by the cover. Yes, as a metaphor for living things that makes sense, but in a literal sense it's the whole point

[@Stroggoii]

@@aff77141 Disney themselves have purposely made weak ad campaigns for good films, i.e. Treasure Planet.

[@wkeezz]

You give cars a hard time, but cars made Pixar more money than most of their movies via merchandise, As a kid, hotwheels were very popular, so having a lightning McQueen car was the hot thing to have

[@Alucard2091]

Basically Cars serves money marker not story

[@S-Video]

@@Alucard2091watch the scene with the song Our Town.

[@Alucard2091]

@@deepwaterssss Cars 1 in PIXAR standard is subjective but the spin-off & Cars 2 meant for sustainable income 4 Disney.

[@Alucard2091]

@@deepwaterssss Also Car 2 & others brought an identity issue to the IP. Car 1 & 3 were personal stories then 2 was spy + planes (clone of Cars 1)

[@princesserika9899]

@@deepwaterssss What about Cars 3? Any thoughts on that movie?

[@danisdcpdiary]

Disney is playing it too safe with their animated films right now. The whole purpose of Pixar was that it was experimental! Some of the most successful Disney movies to date were movies that they had not assumed would be popular. Sony and DreamWorks are experimenting right now and giving creatives the reigns and it *shows*. Disney isn’t seeing this lack of success for the opportunity that it is, they have a chance to do something very original because the audience is ripe for it, they just keep shooting down great ideas for the sake of playing it safe. Let’s hope that when they start feeling it in their pockets, they do the right thing and hand the torch to the creatives instead of having people like Iger crunch numbers and make their studios suffer more.

[@Asupernaruto1]

I think it's time to return back to the traditional 2D animation Disney can't keep doing this.

[@Asupernaruto1]

@Lind Morn It won't be as bad if they put any effort on what they're doing this is a bad look for Disney.

[@biazacha]

@Lind Morn depends of how they approach it. Maybe it’s time to let the talking animals and princesses rest and use the media for creative and exciting things just like those same talking animals and princesses felt back in their days. Rebuilding their 2D division could be a really good way to go back to form.

[@Dcuniverse60]

Its not gonna happen its cost too much when will understand that its too risky but you guys dont seem to understand that do you

[@roastedrootstew]

Really great video. It's super refreshing to see an in-depth, structured critique of the way Disney/Pixar are currently operating that doesn't just boil down to "modern Disney bad".

[@DrDiabolical000]

I swear if I see one more video with the "go woke go broke" concept, I am gonna puke. Like for fucks sake other criticisms are possible.

[@isolatedirectorofficial]

Pixar feels like a former shell of itself. Back then, they were releasing masterpieces and timeless classics! Nowadays their new movies are just mid af or simply okay. I miss the old Pixar… 😔

[@zc8673]

Pizar movies used to be a MUST WATCH. Now I honestly haven't had any interest in any pizar movies since Inside Out

[@isolatedirectorofficial]

I enjoyed Turning Red tho that was pretty good, not sure I’ll watch it again tho

[@LiamDeege]

I’ll watch any film in recent years except for Brave(my least favorite Pixar film) Good Dinosaur, or Turning Red(this film gives me trauma and PTSD from my experiences as an early teen)

[@BrokeredHeart]

That stemmed from the leadership - Lasseter, Bird, Stanton, and Docter. They were committed to the artistic vision of their projects without getting caught up in the business and politics side of the Disney partnership. They were creating original, heartfelt stories that people had not seen before, and were able to captivate mature audiences as well as children through the portrayal of complex emotions and relatable situations. I personally loved the movies they released over Disney+ during the pandemic - Onward, Luca, Soul, and Turning Red, and I think judging their public reception based on internet release does them a great disservice. Where the studio has faltered has been the cranking out of sequels in order to appease the Disneyfication of their IP, the desire to franchise their characters and make an easy buck off of beloved titles from the late 1990s and early 2000s. The lore of Pixar is that the main directors got together over coffee one day in 1994 and developed story ideas together to get things rolling once Toy Story was in production. Knowing that they had struck gold, they wanted to roll out new ideas to pursue to keep the studio rolling ahead, so they came up with the premises for various titles that would soon follow: A Bug's Life, Monster's Inc, Finding Nemo, and Wall-E resulted from that one sit-down they had together. That sort of long term brainstorming has not really been replicated since, and all those directors involved have moved on. There's a plethora of new additions to the Pixar roster, but that sort of creative freedom to bring new characters to the screen appears to be lacking. Outwardly, there doesn't appear to be team collaboration between the production crews anymore, which may be due to the way their office structure is set up, or the hand Disney execs have in the preliminary stages for greenlighting new titles and setting the release dates, or the shift in the workplace to have staff working remotely due to covid. In any case, that has led to a change in the way these films are being written and animated, and the rise of streaming platforms has cut into the box office draw they once had. Plus, when you have movie property that is family oriented in an age where the cost of buying theatre tickets is prohibitive for many households, and the patience of waiting for these titles to make their way to your subscription services online saves you money, of course the numbers are going to be less impressive than the releases that came in the early 2000s. Pixar isn't the only animation studio struggling in the era of online streaming.

[@Quarckster]

But doesn’t mid mean ok ?

[@KingTea2006]

Anytime I see Disney movies now, it reminds me of Wheezy in Toy Story 2. He used to be a toy that Andy played with all the time, but now his squeaker is messed up and he's been shelved. Hopefully Disney makes a comeback like Wheezy did.

[@sebastiantrias1529]

It started after Disney bought Pixar long ago, also firing John Lassetter as there too animator.

[@Unsweetened8618]

Yes once Lassetter was gone, Pixar was doom.

[@sharkanenoa5928]

You realize he deserved to be fired right...he's a known sexual offender, he made the cars movies, he directed Cars 2, he fired Braves original director Brenda Chapman because she didn't fall in line with his degenerate agenda. As far anyone is concerned Pixar is better off without him

[@shadowleon659]

​@@Unsweetened8618 Not helped by Lassester becoming a total arsehole.

[@Unsweetened8618]

@@sharkanenoa5928 Even what uh few stinkers, Pixar was still at the height of it's game, in terms animation and story telling. Where's Pixar Now↪💩

[@shadowthehedgehog370]

@@Unsweetened8618 yes but he committed SEXUAL HARASSMENT what part of that do you not understand

[@damonlam9145]

Someone on the internet said that if stuff like this keeps happening, Pixar may be merge right into Disney just like Blue sky studio.

[@Astro_seeker1987]

I hate that Disney is basically forcing Pixar to make these films so cliché when it comes to story telling, meaning giving toys, elements, and emotions life. Not that it’s bad or anything, it’s just feels worn out, I love those films with all my heart, it brings me nostalgia. I was excited to see that Pixar tried something new with “Luca” & “Turning Red”, they brought some new story to the table and that has shown potential with Pixar with their new animation which I adore. It reminds of stop motion and clay animation movies like “Coraline” and “Wallace & Gromit. Disney is limiting Pixar’s potential to only film old concept’s that were already used before. I’m gonna watch “Elemental’s” because I know Pixar has a lot to offer. They need the freedom to express their creativity fully, instead of doing the same old thing with the likes of “Lightyear”. Honestly screw Disney for this….Pixar deserves better.

[@movieaxis1455]

On point and somewhat inspiring!

[@spookyshark632]

Elemental seems like it would look amazing in 2D

[@S-Video]

In my opinion, Turning Red should’ve been their first 2D film, especially since the director wanted the film to look like anime.

[@ourfamilyaccount]

​@@S-Video I recently bought my child the Little Golden book of 'Turning Red' and I thought it looked fantastic in the 2D drawing illustrations. I agree seeing the film in 2D would've been a brilliant decision but that ship has sailed unfortunately.

[@laeiraO-O]

I feel bad for the kids who have to grow up with this shit. Unfortunately most of the parents don't care and just put the first thing that's on or what's popular at the moment, and I think this is one of the major downsides of the evergrowing popularity of streaming services that have outperformed television. They are more convenient and all but you have to search, select for yourself what are you gonna watch, while with television you never know what you're going to get, and that makes it exiting, and it makes you discover movies and series you otherwhise wouldn't have known of.

[@jeffreygao3956]

I prefer the system of selective searches; Makes me more in control so I only catch what’s good.

[@damigamermx-us8291]

I agree, I have watched a lot of popular movies because of Cable TV. And with streaming services you have to recommend your kids what to watch

[@Nexus-Flare]

I lived on Cable for a good chunk of my life and also streaming services too. A mix of both are recommended. But with live television I have found shows I can’t watch on streaming channels.

[@LiamDeege]

I grew up watching masterpieces throughout the late 2000s when I was still a toddler and now as an early adult I get nothing but coming of age stories that don’t have the same magic as the old days.

[@laeiraO-O]

@@LiamDeege yeah me too! I grew up watching movies and series from all decades, some of them are still mu favorites, like Heidi, both of the Parent traps… one of the most recent movies I discovered on tv was Donnie Darko, absolute masterpiece

[@writer6557]

2:26 Yeah, but the fact "Raya" did got a theatrical relase, months before, and later that year "Encanto" as well, makes me feel Disney did dirty to Pixar with both "Luca" and "Turning Red" And I think those two would have perfomed better at the box-office than "Lightyear" and probably "Elemental"

[@jorami4838]

They need to take risks. Disney is too scared to lose money, so they only make safe, by the numbers films.

[@mob3p1c]

My guess is that after John Lasseter and Ed Catmull left, the two people who agreed(Steve Jobs was there too) with Bob Iger strictly to never let Pixar and Disney influence each other in terms of production(not letting any Pixar animators and technicians help Disney Animation and vice versa), that old agreement slowly faded away and the two companies began influencing each other big time. Sad.

[@eyedalehim]

Sequels have been Pixar's weak side in recent times, honestly sad that some of these sequel films like Toy Story 4, Cars 2 and Incredibles 2 have been bad because of one reason. If they really wanna expand their stories, they should understand that these kind of sequels are only successful if they either take what the original did and make the execution better, or give them a new direction that still works under the original's direction.

[@amyvasquez4268]

In my opinion, Toy Story 4 had pretty cool original characters, but imo instead of being a major franchise installment, I think it should’ve been a spin-off special, film, or miniseries focused solely around the new characters (and maybe Bo Peep) instead of being another story about Woody and his gang.

[@javierfebronio8907]

If they really wanted to expand the Incredibles, then why not a prequel show called "Mr. Incredible"?. It could take place in the "good old day", show how he met Elastigirl, meet other Supers, learn where their powers came from, etc.

[@biazacha]

Yeah he mocked Frozen 2 but that movie actually understood what was needed to expand in the success of the first one, the story had a proper conclusion and in several aspects was narratively more interesting than the first one. Ironically the fact that was such a solid end means we’re about to see a Toy Story 4 type of unnecessary sequel but hey, gotta pump that merchandising. Other studios have either nothing to lose, or where build with bolder, edgier values like Dreamworks. Disney and Pixar are stuck in their cookie cutter limitations and it shows.

[@zydratehore]

John Lassiter, was the heart and soul of Pixar. Once he left he took Pixar with him

[@crazylife5794]

I was so hoping that Disney Movie Wish would had gone with the Paper Man Art Style 🙏 Just like this video said only Sony Animation is taking risks with there animation art style and story.

[@atawbi]

I can remember the time, when every Disney/Pixar release was such a highlight. Well, that belongs to the past. 😢

[@LiamDeege]

Every film from Toy Story to Cars 2(until I learned the truth about how bad it was) was a highlight in my books except A Bug’s Life.

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

I like how the thumbnail is Woody from the 3rd movie silently telling Andy's mom "that's not trash!"

[@S-Video]

Andy’s mom represents Disney and the trash bag contains Pixar’s first eleven films.

[@BrontoSmilodon1]

@@S-Video no the trash bag contains all of the Pixar bombsfeatured in the thumbnail. Hey Woody is very loyal to the Pixar brand

[@S-Video]

Bonnie’s parents accidentally threw away Totoro ):

[@Gameytarsier62]

I Hope Pixar can return to its golden self and stop being a shell of its former self instead!

[@SquidwardSmellsGOOD734]

I’m a little conflicted on Elemental. On one hand, I actually like the idea of a movie that takes place in a world of sentient elements, but on the other hand, it has a lot holding it back such as the unoriginal plot, the comedy that doesn’t land, and the ugly character designs (ugly to me at least). I’m kinda hoping that the movie will at least be decent, maybe even subvert my expectations and turn out to be amazing, but I won’t be disappointed if it sucks.

[@LiamDeege]

If it turns out to not be great, let’s just hope for one thing next spring, the Oscars don’t get rigged again because they’re so goddamn biased towards Disney and Pixar

[@SquidwardSmellsGOOD734]

@@LiamDeege Oh yeah, totally.

[@LiamDeege]

It’ll be like Brave all over again, Wreck it Ralph was a much better film but they chose Brave because the Academy Awards always goes for the fucking princess films no matter how bad they are. Pixar and princesses do not mix in my opinion.

[@SquidwardSmellsGOOD734]

@@LiamDeege Don’t forget about Big Hero 6 winning over the Lego Movie.

[@Dotical]

Yeah I like the designs of the elements and love the world building, but your right the plot does seem very bland. I’m already guessing the movie’s gonna be something like this Ember and Wade meet and they fall in love, oh but alas their love can not be because of society’s rule that “Elements cannot mix” so now they have to convince their family’s that it’s okay to date a different element and soon the families realize the error of their ways and society slowly does too.

[@The_Greatest_Link]

Disney is ruining everything it buys: Disney's self-destructing! AHAHAHA

[@LiamDeege]

The Greatest Link, I agree with what you mean only in my case I would open the Ark of the Covenant and have my head melted off my skull once Disney and Pixar blow it once again.

[@nellym46664]

I'll never understand the bashing Cars constantly receives. Sure, the sequel was subpar and the third movie was a bit of an improvement, but the original is definitely a classic and deserves its place next to the Wall-Es, Nemos and Toy Stories. And this is coming from someone who was literally raised by these movies.

[@LiamDeege]

I will admit before I learned the truth about Cars 2, it was among my top 10 favorite Pixar movies of all time, but it’s not my least favorite in my heart. The bottom will forever belong to Brave in my books, me watching it is just the same as having your head melted off your skull by the Power of God.

[@kelleyceccato7025]

When this video talks about Pixar's "sequel era" in the 2010s, I still feel as if "Inside Out" has been unfairly erased. Has it become fashionable to hate it now? Is it fated to sink into the surrounding quicksand of the mediocrities around it? "Inside Out" is special to me, not only for its sharp script and outstanding voice cast but for its being the first, and so far the only, Pixar film to focus on a female nonhuman (Joy) as protagonist, and to give a welcome spotlight to her budding friendship with Sadness. How many other American animated films have showcased a friendship between female characters? Ghibli films do it all the time, but here in the US, animated buddy pairs have always been boys, with the exception of "Inside Out" and, to a lesser degree, "Turning Red." Maybe this doesn't matter to everyone, but it matters to me. Nonetheless, I agree with the video's overall points. Sequelitis and Quality almost never coincide. Disney/Pixar will become a joke if they don't course-correct.

[@zc8673]

Wait, people dislike Inside Out?? It's one of their greatest films to date.

[@kelleyceccato7025]

@@zc8673 I hope it isn't that people don't like it. It's more that because it was released in the 2010s, when the company started to struggle -- it was released in the same year as The Good Dinosaur, after all -- people don't often bother to acknowledge it. To me, it's an important film, as it showed you can have a strong story AND good representation; you don't have to give up one for the other.

[@iminumst7827]

Speaking of nonhuman, this video was clearly AI generated, you know that right?

[@wizardoferror9942]

I’ve felt the same way. All of Pixar’s recent films I have always measured against Inside Out. None of them add up.

[@ChicagoMel23]

It’s getting a sequel and I hope it’s good

[@RonquixoteDIII]

Also a major issue is sometimes they just straight up kneecap their own films by not doing promo. Strange worlds is much better than people give it credit for (seeing it as bombing due to “gay agenda”) when that’s such a small part of the movie and probably the reason it was banned (foreign markets). It abandons a lot of the traditional format and could have been a breath of fresh air if not for Disney meddling

[@princembat]

art projects/companies should be run by artists, not business people, at least in my opinion. disney was founded by an artist, after all. putting money above all else is a fatal flaw. if something is good, the money will come, you shouldnt feel the need to worry about it and snatch at whatever crappy money maker. maybe if the disney company cared about telling good stories and not just trying to make money, theyd stop freaking out so much. i mean, theyve definitely come out with a few good movies these past few years, so its not like theyve stopped entirely, but you can definitely feel the shell of the old way it was forming.

[@mrseal662]

I'm not very old, but even I can remember a time when Pixar had a flawless track record Cars 2 might have been the first time they showed any cracks, but since I was 10 at the time I thought spy cars were pretty cool

[@patiencewallace8453]

I don’t remember how old I was, but I was young enough to really enjoy the film and I now as an adult understand where the problems come from. At the time tho, it was awesome 😂 I feel the same about Brave. I was young enough to really enjoy it but I can see how it doesn’t really fit with Pixar’s other movies. I don’t really care tho, I love Brave despite the criticism

[@dreamguardian8320]

First Disney is facing problems, and now Pixar.

[@dreamguardian8320]

@Lind Morn If they try to keep growing, then sooner or later, they will collapse big time. Just like what happened to Humpty Dumpty in a cartoon called Greedy Humpty Dumpty, when he tried to reach the sun because he thought it was made of gold.

[@coachcherokee1488]

The other way around

[@serenitysfirefly]

I would've loved to have seen Turning Red in theatres. I can't imagine how amazing the animation would've looked on the big screen. And the music would've slapped so much harder.

[@LiamDeege]

I wouldn’t have enjoyed it in theaters because at that it would have won the Oscars like Disney always does and thank good Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio won. Anything but Turning Red would’ve been a good choice to win the Oscars.

[@ChicagoMel23]

@@LiamDeege why?

[@isaiahgloriosus7238]

I was fortunate enough to catch Turning Red (first viewing) on the big screen while visiting NYC for spring break last year

[@LiamDeege]

BlueBraviaryGirl, because the Oscars are too damn biased towards Disney and Pixar no matter how bad or how good they turn out, I didn’t see Pinocchio, but anything would have been better than Turning Red regardless in my opinion.

[@herosam1390]

People: Why doesn't Pixar make original movies anymore? I'm tired of these sequels! Also people: I'll just wait for (insert upcoming original Pixar movie) to come out on Disney+. This is the problem with moviegoers nowadays. They complain about wanting more original movies, but yet when we get those movies they refuse to support them where it matters, but will instead go to see the next Toy Story movie or whatever sequel they put out. I'm honestly glad that Pixar is making another Toy Story and Inside Out movie because I'm genuinely scared that unless they start making money soon, they'll be forced to shut down. If getting a few more sequels means that we'll be able to keep Pixar, I would gladly accept and support anything they put out, both their original movies and their sequels.

[@jorami4838]

Can you blame us? The good dinosaur sucked, Onward was mid, and elementals looks generic. I want them to make original INTERESTING movies, not just original movies.

[@alexlestat]

Your argument falls apart when you take into consideration the appeal (or lack thereof) of these original movies. Why would someone decide to spend their hard earned cash on a movie that doesn't catch their attention just to support "originality". Pixar needs to create films that don't feel like a waste of time and money.

[@gravityfalls1826]

A lot of people wait until Disney+ the price for seeing films at the cinema is too costly for some people, especially to families who the films are aimed at. Instead of going the cinema they could spend it on more worthwhile things, such as Disney+, because they are able to get all the films, plus new ones 3 months after release.

[@alexlestat]

@@gravityfalls1826 that's 100% true, my argument only applied for moviegoers

[@dragonscales1080]

They need to unionize. Theres no other way forward

[@ChicagoMel23]

It won’t collapse. Free enterprise is much better than any other system

[@makavoxel]

There already is an animation union lmao.

[@briansmith1623]

The one thing that I really do like about pixar is that when they release the movie on blu ray there are great special features they even include deleted scenes from a totally different version of the movie

[@kingagrabowska9366]

Elemental looks nice but the story is a complete mess and the world-building doesn't make any sense. I know this because books spoiling the movie are already out. I don't want to spoil anything but I can answer any questions about the plot of the movie.

[@amyvasquez4268]

The story is bad? Sigh, I miss the time when we only had the concept art and premise for the movie and I was very excited for it and what a world of element made people would be like. :/ I had such high hopes….

[@anaphchan6783]

Is it a basic plot where the,” young kids can follow along to” kind of movie?

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@anaphchan6783 Yes.

[@anaphchan6783]

@@kingagrabowska9366 ah okay, now I’m bored of it already

[@kingagrabowska9366]

@@anaphchan6783 It's pretty boring. Except for the times when something stupid happens. There is a moment which is supposed to be sad but it's so unnatural that they might as well hold a sign ''This is the part where you cry.'' .

[@sufyaankhan4686]

Very proud of ur work bro, you’ve been getting more confident in your voice throughout the last few months. I’ve been here since u released that review on Puss in Boots and man, each video u drop gets better and better.

[@jtodd0221]

You know what’s going to come next? Pixarverse. Syndrome comes up with a new device that he thinks will enable inter dimensional travel, but accidentally opens a rift allowing enemies from every Disney/Pixar movie to flood into his current reality. The Incredibles will have to team up with Lightning McQueen, Buzz and Woody, Coco, Mike and Sully, and Carl to stop them.

[@thedudewhomadethisvideo]

Coco? So Miguel's Great Grandma Coco

[@StarlightNkyra]

I haven't been going to see any movie associated with disney since Encanto, but I have seen lightyear with a friend. Seeing lightyear left such a bad taste in my mouth and secured both Disney and Pixar as modern modiocres in my mind. Thry were already on a decline in my mind, but it just cemented that status. I love going back and rewatching the fantastic classics to remeber the pixar I love, and I do like, somtimes love some newer original films like inside out, coco and soul to name standouts, but I think i'm just done. Neither can create intresting fantastical worlds anymore, and a lot of the films (frozen 2, Lightyear, and all of the live action remakes for bottom of the barrel movies) feel like ripoffs that I somtimes feel like i'm actively losing braincells watching.

[@senoreljoynes6442]

I don't want to watch Elemental for the story. It looks to me like it's all about the animation. PIxar spent decades developing the ability to animate things like that, and it feels like someone noticed what they're capable of and decided they wanted to show it off. I want to watch Elemental, but for the animation, because the story looks like it's just an excuse for the animation, and that's fine.

[@NC_LH_SEA]

Their problem is a lack of good stories being told and pointless sequels that take precedence over new good stories

[@wmv8996]

I really liked that Tron tv show. I watched it at work during the slow season and was bummed that it got dropped for a second season because of poor watch retention when it was on tv. It was an interesting story, but disney gave up on it because it and tron kegacy weren't some big huge mega sensation that they wanted.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Every company hits a dark age; this is just Pixar's (if you wanna call it that).

[@PizzaMan879]

See this happen to not just Pixar, but also once great studios like Lucasfilm and Marvel makes me only wish that Disney finally dies as a company so that a more competent company can by them up instead.

[@PizzaMan879]

@Lind Morn In a way, you’re right. It’s just that Disney in particular has become incredibly greedy over the past few years, and are willing to go to disgusting lengths just for a quick but. They keep hiring people that don’t have a dang clue on how to make good stories, or continue pre existing stories in a meaningful way. They have basically become the Movie studios equivalent of a fast food restaurant, except to a large, more despicable extent due to not just how much they own of the Movie industry, but also due to their actions outside of the company.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

These companies should just have the guts to say no to the deal and stay independent. It's not like they HAVE to take the money, unless they've already sold their soul in becoming a publicly traded company

[@natewatson6962]

disney doesn't have a pixar problem, pixar has a disney problem. you spit so many facts.

[@ggamer77]

Can't wait for Toy Story 34, Star Wars 56, and The Little Mermaid Remake Remake.

[@gaiusfulmen]

But don't let these points distract you from the fact that Wade the water boy looks goofy as Heck 😬

[@tanishambrowne1137]

Problem with Elementals the plot looks too basic and I saw potential they should have done concept similar Raya the last dragon not to mention the assets looked recycled from zootopia also just looks like generic love story and thats been over done to death. Another issue I have Luca and Turning Red they did play it safe with their movies they were just medicore since the story so basic and was disappointed since Pixar did better storytelling like Coco, Up, Inside out etc. Thats problem with Modern Disney/Pixar they just care about cash grabs with live action remakes and squeals and writing has gone downhill not feeling for Toy story 5, inside out 2 and Frozen 3.

[@LiamDeege]

WALL•E also had great story telling throughout with the near lack of dialogue, body language and communication between the robots, which is why it’s my favorite of them all.

[@tanishambrowne1137]

@@LiamDeege Wall e is fantastic film i agree its beautifully told story i wish Pixar did this quality did.

[@LiamDeege]

I also like the soundtrack that WALL•E has, I love the Hello Dolly scenes, and the music throughout the movie is perfect in my opinion

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

The downturn at Pixar started when Iger got rid of the creative team that started the studio. From there it started to become an extension of Disney animation studios when Disney is clearly back in their direct to DVD sequel phase again

[@d_trich]

Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was good. I will die on this hill

[@birthdayfruitecake8158]

*Me:* Hears that Frozen 3 is going to be a thing. *My Mind:* Off-key screeching of Let It Go

[@LiamDeege]

Me: Hearing that Frozen will come back again. My Mind: My face melting off my skull from my dislike of the franchise.

[@movieaxis1455]

Elemental is for all audiences. In case you guys had not noticed, the ratings form critics has improved by a lot. I would recommend watching Elemental in Theaters.

[@LiamDeege]

I definitely plan on watching it in theaters with the hopes that it will receive a good rating in my books unlike my modern Pixar films considering this ain't no coming of age story at least.

[@Nexus-Flare]

Disney has had a bad era before but then it ended and had such amazing animation changing films. Let’s hope after this Disney we’ll be great again(along with Pixar)

[@OpEditorial]

Disney and Pixar animation styles are identical, and both are copying the CalArts character design theory (it's particularly noticeable in Luca)

[@TheAyeAye1]

Nothing Disney owns deserves money.

[@DuxaluxaLOL]

its sad cause pixar has talked how a lot of their movies are so rich in story but after theyre sent to higher ups in disney theyre returned as shells of what they used to be

[@bsnetwork4982]

My problem is elementals doesn’t aesthetically look like a Pixar movie.

[@eshel9886]

Business is business no matter what. And often times businesses can go sour. Instead of getting mad at that business for doing something you don’t agree with, try living with the way things are now.

[@geggy310]

2:31 in Turning Red’s credits it says optimized for imax so it was intended for theaters

[@LiamDeege]

By which that point the film would've given me more trauma and PTSD of my own early teen experiences myself.

[@cyan.cephalopod]

Elemental has such a cool world design and they decided to do yet another romeo and juliet 😭

[@smugfrog1041]

I don't envy western creators, they have to make a good story while checking all the ideological boxes that directly prevents creativity

[@maxamukuan]

You explained this extremely well. Kudos

[@g4rpl3i]

I love animated movies but the cliché story ruins it. I always love movies who you can't expect what will happen. Movie which are unique. That doesn't mean I don't like franchises or sequels. I enjoyed how Cars ended with "Not everything will be the same. At some point someone will be better" with the fact that McQueen is outdated racer. Inside Out was unique movie and would work on it's own and we will have sequel from what I read. But what about it? Same thing but with older Riley or something? Toy Story too. I liked the ending of 3rd movie showing that people grow up and toys just don't get thrown away and find different owner. It depends on a movie if it's franchise liike or single movie like. I personally think that Pixar is single movie like type where you can think of a story that doesn't need to continue. You get everything in one movie and it's enough

[@normalgirlcvco]

I hate this because Elemental is actually good 😢

[@Zthewise]

Disney doesn't have to try anymore. Despite the fact the reviews on the recent movies being in the gutter. It doesn't matter. People keep going to go see their movies, so Disney will continue to hash out sequels because it's been proven to be safe and works. Side note, i feel with elemental. Disney might be pulling a Treasure Planet, only with theatrical releases to promote Disney +instead f sabotaging 2d animation.

[@lillordakira9752]

John Ratzenberger could've stayed for the films after Onward.

[@adammichna5175]

What? WHAT Inside Out is getting a sequel? And there will be a Toy Story 5?

[@nightwatch3889]

OMFG. YOU BROUGHT UP THE PIXAR THEORY and now I need to see you make a video on it lol! You said it isn't true and I'd really really love to hear why you think so, now that you've put the idea in my head 😂

[@ladypool1404]

Toy story 5 is coming, i won't watch it! 4 movies are enough to fully developped the story and the characters. Not sure it will be made by the producers who made Toy story 3. If yes, i'll give it a chance. If not, i will watch Ruby Gilman instead. Yes it's a bit like Luca BUT mermaids are finally evil and the animation is pretty. It's not super creative but looks fun 😃There's effrots to create a new story and not just ruining a franchise like with Ice age. The 4 was ok then Collision course came and destroyed everything. Buck's wild show too especially the ugly animation. I'm gonna watch Shrek 5 IF it's made by the same team who give us Puss in Boot 2. It will be cool to see Shrek, Fiona and Donkey animated like the cat in his second film. I'm curious to see who the villain will be. Farquad is dead, he can't come back and Charming too. His mother is gone as well. I'm positive this film will be better than what Pixar is doing.

[@LiamDeege]

I’ll watch anything over memey, relatable, coming of age stories about teenagers because my early teen experiences still haunt me and give me trauma even to this day.

[@BabyGirlTiny]

4 movies wasn’t needed because 3 movies fully developed the story. You can’t say you won’t watch because there’s 5 movies if you liked the 4th movie

[@MikeOChannelMIKEOGAMESDUB]

In other words: They need John Lasseter

[@LiamDeege]

Bob Iger should realize that he will never have the same success as Lasseter and that he has done nothing but push their films backwards and the company as a whole, even firing Angus MacLane also hurts them.

[@tierghan5433]

No clue why they don’t try to return to 2D. You would think with the boom of popularity in anime would hint that maybe there’s something to explore there.

[@clarkbobsein7364]

Can you do a review on monsters university

[@dragon3dnet]

Good video. I am new to your channel so I don't know if this is typical for your videos; but I would suggest not editing out all the pauses in your voice recording. Allow your scripts to breathe a little; I found myself holding my breath through the entire thing.

[@oceanman7652]

I feel like everyone assumes that earlier Pixar films were more appealing to broader audiences. But I think that’s not actually the case with every one of them. Ever since I was a little kid, movies like the Incredibles sometimes felt too…American, and I seriously did not identify with most of it. Maybe movies like turning red and Luca are more niche, but they struck a deeper chard within me than Toy Story 1 or the Incredibles because they were showing aspects of other cultures. That’s just my own experience though.

[@danielgaming2223]

The *only* DreamWorks film I wouldn't mind seeing in Live action is Spirit: Stallion of the Cimmarron. The timeless story of a Kiger Mustang trying to find his way home, while getting caught up in the building of the Transcontinental Railroad and the American Indian wars in the mid 1860's is absolutely one I'd watch in Live Action

[@fangirldreamer748]

It would be similar to Black Beauty

[@bloxycrew7697]

I thunk it’s just that ideas are becoming harder and harder to come up with because of how most ideas are used

[@ladyhawk7408]

It's not the name. It's the people. All the original creators from Pixar golden days are gone. Same goes for gaming. Bethesda bioware arcane Rockstar North. All the developers that made thier best games moved on.... and thier replacements suck.

[@makavoxel]

It's The Bob Iger company now. How could it have Disney's values anymore? When the people leave and mission changes the company changes. I hope Bob enjoys his legacy collapsing. Walt Disney was never about legacy it was a side effect to his vision and dreams.

[@LiamDeege]

Someday(not), Bon Igner will realize he’ll never have the same level of success as John Lasseter and that he’s nothing but a dumb bastard for ruining one of the greatest animation studios of all time

[@alexgill313]

To be honest, if I don't do any research I can't tell a disney and Pixar movie apart anymore and haven't been able to tell since the mid 2010s

[@imranfazal6495]

We are also going through a recession. People could just be so done w spending money they would rather just wait for these movies to come out on streaming platforms they are already paying for.

[@yomama211]

Animation colleagues dont fall for the corporate loyalty trap in the naughts we called it geeksploitation. The quote that stands out most in my mind was: "We got a half pipe and a soccer pitch, but dont ever get caught using it."

[@LittleMan27]

No more fear of missing out thanks to streaming

[@MrGabeanator]

Pixar is definitely a mixed bag

[@snapslingpeavine1371]

Disnar’s Pixie Problem

[@declancolwell5443]

In my own professional opinion, one of the reasons Pixar's failling is because they stopped using John Ratzenberger's voice in their movies. Pixar just ain't what it used to be without him and still will never, ever be the same without him, whatever way it is!

[@chasformer3091]

All in favor of bringing back John Lasseter?

[@darkdudironaji]

That producer didn't really save Toy Story 2. They basically scrapped the version she saved and redid the whole thing. So, in the end, it wasn't that important.

[@HighWayGaming64]

Pixar sequels today is basically the direct to DVD sequels of Disney. Loosing the character arc they have on the first movie and ruining the story by adding unrelated plots.

[@lexus8018]

At least we know when all hope is lost for Pixar at least we can still fully expect Toy Story 95 posters to litter bus stops around the globe.

[@DougTheVent]

Why is Pixar falling flat on their faces right now?