Disney’s Ruining Movies

Disney will no longer sell DVDs or Blu-ray (physical media) in Australia and New Zealand
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[@Dirtyz1234]

No physical ownership makes me feel even less bad about acquiring media in creative ways.

[@drabberfrog]

Same, I will accept nothing less than the complete and total ownership of my movies and TV shows. Whether that ownership comes from unofficial sources or a DVD rip is irrelevant.

[@agc2801]

Yes, the problem is trying to milk the cow 24hrs a day. And then try to make more out of it. Eventually the cow will go to India.

[@SirNarax]

Not a fan of streaming services not just because I don't like paying a bill to have the option to watch something but when it comes to watching movies when I want to watch something I want to watch that something. With all these companies spreading their libraries across different platforms buying one just seems stupid and the one was already a tough sell. I don't need to have the object in my hands though. I will continue to use something like Steam for games even if physical media existed. I'd need a bookshelf or two to hold the games otherwise and I simply do not have that kind of space.

[@kartikwatts2641]

Exactly it feels like ripping a yt video

[@gumundur1721]

I never did like streaming but I liked having disks less but I love having a digital copy of the stuff arranged on to my multiple hard drives so nothing is really changing other than I watch a lot less from America since it has sucked for the past few years.

[@TJBarnes-f9z]

I feel that if a corporation takes a tax write off to remove a piece of content, that piece should INSTANTLY loose all copyright protection and become part of the public domain.

[@OriginalPiMan]

A fair point. The business has just declared the media as without commercial value, after all.

[@waynej747]

It would make for an interesting court case if anyone were to be sued for piracy over content that the studio themselves had declared worthless.

[@staywhite8325]

They need that ESG score

[@switchdeck9164]

You act like you're somehow entitled to someone else's property. The content may have been determined to cause reputation damage to the company and written off.

[@OdinHagen]

@@switchdeck9164 If a company deems it valueless then I would say that content is no longer an asset of that company. Additionally if the only way to acquire a copy is via a digital storefront and the company running that store decides to remove the content that you paid for should you not be able to acquire that content?

[@NevrEnds]

Piracy or preserving old movies from streaming services should be legal imo, Cuz they're like burning down the library on purpose while your favorite books are still in it

[@p24p14]

Literally! This is like Disney setting the library on fire, and you get arrested for "stealing" because you wanted to preserve your favourite book from the fire

[@Tatoruzu]

This would make sense if you were actually subscribed to the service at one point. But why should it be legal for someone who never subscribed to the service to pirate removed content and receive it for free? It was removed precisely because it caused the company a loss and people didn't subscribe to view it. This creates an unfair incentive where consumers are incentivized to not subscribe because the fewer subscribers there are, the more free content there is. I say all of this as an avid and shameless pirate.

[@TheRealEclipse1]

Well, people burn books now lol

[@rynobehnke8289]

I really think the price for the tax write-off should include having to give up all copy right to it as well to both insure that they can't profit off it later and to preserve the art.

[@pileofstuff]

Linus asks "what kind of TV shows are we going to watch?" My answer: I watch youtube for 90+% of my viewing time.

[@Jessev741]

Only 90+?

[@Spazza42]

And Google knows it. Watch ads get more aggressive and premium go up in price again

[@minerminecrafter464]

KZbin and harharhar methods (especially for Disney things)

[@Jessev741]

@@Spazza42 premium is worth every penny

[@mikkelbreiler8916]

I stopped watching TV entirely in 2008. I only turned on the TV for the text news pages on a few channels. So when I was carrying my 28'' CRT tv to my basement I stopped and changed direction and dumped in with the other electronic garbage from our building complex. I have not bought TV channels for consumption, I made do with over the air free tv and I do not have any digital subscriptions of any kind and never did. Never will either. When I visit my parents I might watch something - but it is their tv and I do not select what we watch. I do not follow any tv shows there as I am not there every weekend. It pleases my parents to watch tv so sometimes I watch with them. 99.99% of my consumption in the last many years is internet. The quality of entertainment today I cannot tell, or if it is engagning or not, or my parents pick the best shows to follow, I certainly saw they knwe about some shows that I did not find interesting. I simply do not have the joy of watching tv shows like I did in the 70s and 80s when I was growing up, I am from 1970. But I do own a couple of thousand videotitles, mostly on DVD, because the format demands less space per title than VHS. I can imagine that now there more shows than ever and that some fo good, but I really don't find it more intereting than clicking around on the internet, especially KZbin and pick up something new all the time, or watch a bit of something and decide to watch something else.

[@svpracer98]

Biggest source of piracy I see incoming? Schools... Why? Because the DVD is officially dead. And if the DVD is dead, the next logical step for a teacher is streaming... Guess what, all those streaming services are non-commercial, so the schools block them (usually citing lack of bandwidth). Soo what's a teacher to do? Well either a fellow college brings a "totally legit" copy on a thumb drive or, the quiet kid in the back conveniently has a hard drive with every class movie for the school year.

[@mrn234]

Iam out of school for quite some time and already during my time it was 9 out of 10 times a good ol copy of a VHS Tape, on a thumb drive or a copied DVD

[@finadoggie]

I don’t see it, schools/any companies are much more likely to face consequences than any individual is for piracy

[@MatthiewMarks]

Schools will continue to use the educational streaming services they are already using.

[@mrn234]

@@venimx *nobody you know ;)

[@Frankenslide]

Realistically the next step is that there are smaller companies that remain, as the soul distributor for these educational DVD’s and since they’re so niche they control their market and sell required media to schools for exorbitant prices. Further taking earning potential from our teachers, who are far more important.

[@DSZI.ShyHunterBB]

It sucks that this is the direction studios like Disney are heading.

[@janchristianursuaaguilar7434]

Ddos disney is the only option discontinuing dvds for aussies and new zealanders is a foolish move

[@jimaldo7715]

Fundamental truth since the start of mankind: You reap what you sow

[@agc2801]

They bought everything and couldn’t handle it…the magical Disney traded their magic for political agendas. 👋🏼 good riddance!

[@Saturn2888]

It's been 20 years, but I've gone back to piracy after having so much trouble buying movies. 99.99% of my movies and shows are purchased, but for that 0.001% that aren't, I'm gladly pirating. It's a reasonable means of acquiring something for historical purposes. A lot of these I see as educational content for my kids. I want to show them things that had a cultural impact, and not all of them are available at the store. In fact, many of the best versions aren't available at all. They were printed in limited quantities and don't exist anymore. I used to care, but these days? I care more about educating my kids and archiving history than I do about making sure I pay. Again, I buy if available, but if not? Yeah, I'll pirate the crap out of it now. Too many things disappear for me to say "no way".

[@fffrrraannkk]

Watching Disney crash and burn is more entertaining that anything they've released in quite a while.

[@dragon1130]

I dunno, The Owl House was really good. As was Amphibia. Actually, their animated shows (ya know, what Disney is known for) has actually been pretty good, albeit mishandled in certain places.

[@stinky2202]

LoL

[@agc2801]

Imagine a world where no one wants to go to your park cause you ruined all your ip and deleted the good old stuff.

[@buda3d2007]

Train wreck watching is a thing for sure, critical drinker and his ilk play into some of my fave content, do do not even consume what they review, I fall into “I watched it so you don’t have to”.

[@globalist1990]

Them and loads of other services act like mobsters inflating the price of stupid crap kids love to watch/do.

[@kaarel545]

The reason why music piracy is minimal is that all the major music streaming services have almost a of the available music in their catalogue. Movie/TV show streaming is however a fragmented mess. If I get an itch to watch a specific movie/TV show the odds are it's not available in my region and even if it is I would still have to search through multiple services. Thinking of setting up a Jellyfin server for that very reason...

[@michaelmonstar4276]

And also a LOT of music is simply available on some kind of physical media. If not more than just years ago. It seems like they push out everything on Vinyl, even over CDs sometimes. Of course that's a trend and people buy it as "merch" or collectible in a "FOMO" kind of way, but a lot of new and old music has come out physically, albeit a bit more limited because vinyl records are simply more difficult and expensive to make. - Plus, CDs kind of linger at least and don't go out of production as quickly. - On top of that, there's the used market, with platforms like Discogs and of course ebay and the like, which make it way easier to find copies than even DVDs and Blu-rays. But then, for the streaming part, just like with streamed movies and shows, the big issue is that the artists get paid next to nothing, especially if you're not among the biggest ones. It's merely a marketing-tool to the artists (which is honestly how I use it, to find them and try their music). And while some platforms, like Spotify, do make an effort to show physical media and merch on the artist-pages, linking to stores, I wonder how many people really bother with it. - And it's not enough, because streaming-companies are still just taking all the money from the subscriptions. - The only thing you can do is pull your music from the platform, IF you have any control over that, and the heads at Spotify and other companies might just shrug at it, unless enough artists do it that people end their subscriptions or something.

[@ccoder4953]

I've got one. Pretty easy to setup. And it's not like stuff like Jellyfin is automatically piracy - I have lots of DVDs and Blu Rays I acquired at thrift stores/garage sales/eBay for cheap that I ripped and keep on my NAS. Still have the physical media, but it's in a box in storage somewhere. Who needs Netflix when I have a homelab? I even have dedicated Jellyfin apps on all my streaming devices (Roku and FireStick). And it's not like you need some really fancy setup. Just about any old desktop will do just fine (does it have an Intel Core I-series? Probably fine then, as long as you don't insist on realtime transcodes.). If it has room for a few hard drives, you can probably even run Truenas scale and ZFS with RAID on it. Then Jellyfin can run as a container under Truenas Scale (check out the truecharts repository - if they don't have it, you probably don't want it).

[@dreamsdeep1076]

Every movie and show is available on Apple TV and Amazon and vudu

[@steveqi9309]

@@ccoder4953 wait, but isn’t ripping a protected DVD still illegal? Most movies on DVD have a FBI warning for a reason right?

[@Shallowleaf]

This is why I purchase physical media for shows and movies that I love. Additionally, I'm not too torn up about the writer's strike, since that means we're going to be getting less garbage for a while.

[@blindfire3167]

I mean...Disney hasn't made anything worth watching in a while. They hire these horrible blog writers (to save money) that write horrible characters and very bad plot that relies on dumb actions from the character(s) to make the plot even happen...even the MCU has been horrible since phase 3 because they don't care, they just want the "Safe" option where if they fail, they blame it on people being sexist/racist/ableist (which there is don't get me wrong, but if they made good stories and likeable characters, half the angry people would disappear and be okay with it).

[@Jafar-dr6to]

You will be surprised how much John Lassiter did before he left in 2017 and you can see the decline on Disney storytelling imo Lassiter should have taken over when Iger left the first time it would be a total different company

[@DizzyBusy]

Turning Red, Werewolf By Night, Toy Story 4...?

[@blindfire3167]

@DizzyBusy A.) That's pixar lol And B.) Even though I won't call any of those horrible (except that werewolf one since I've never heard of it), turning red I couldn't finish, but I understand it wasn't a movie made for me; it was extremely cringey and awkward. Toy Story 4 was fine, again not my favorite but I feel like they're just continuing to make more due to them being out of ideas since every other idea they keep trying keeps failing in one way or another. Their stories used to be "made for children to teach important lessons, but enjoyable by anyone" where even if they have a rude/mentally ugly character (like Woody) they still weren't unlikable like how characters are being made today, even though I'd wager Pixar is still doing a better job than Disney where they show who a character is through actions rather than need another character to explain how heroic/intelligent/witty/"girl boss"/leadership rather than show it (like the new Peter Pan or the upcoming Snow White).

[@NeoDemocedes]

Andor was good. But granted, it was by far the exception.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

You mean?... What was this a reiteration from?... Seems I missed the first half of your comment.

[@williamwilliams4391]

It's sad seeing this and then places like Walmart getting layout redesigns and rebranding and it's just makes me realize that things are changing and probably not for the best. Stuff is losing character, substance, and uniqueness. Companies are just too focused on profits and efficiency vs being creative and standing out.

[@Sidecutter]

Companies exist under capitalism to make money, whatever good or service is offered is just the way they found to do that, not their actual business. Anything not contributing to that will be sacrificed, and with only a handful of companies actually left in major retail, uniqueness is less and less valuable since you have no choice about where to go anymore, in many cases.

[@agc2801]

⁠@@SidecutterI read somewhere that capitalism was doomed from it’s conception. I wonder how many years the US companies have left until they become so big that they will crash upon themselves.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​​@@agc2801 While it's true that shit is about to hit the fan, saying capitalism was "conceived" is kind of untrue. The horrible mess that is corporate america wasn't carefully planned out by some hackjob economist - it was a tumor that grew out of control when america got all revolutionary after winning the second world war.

[@Fwoup]

Piracy remains king lol

[@Elit3Blaze]

our net speeds here down-under suck tho, pirating since forever ago using realplayer yt-dlp for youtube vids are solid, but sometimes can be only at 100kbs/sec

[@renderedpixels4300]

My 2.5TB plex library agrees (I dont have the internet to do 4k :/ )

[@JoshuaWilkesR]

Argh hoist the colors me matey

[@nikkabasyuk1]

It's a peer to peer sharing community

[@Soraviel]

Always ha

[@pixels_2124]

It's not like I watch modern Disney movies anyway. A lot of them are written so badly, even before the strike, that I wouldn't even consider the seven seas.

[@WasatchWind]

"are you going to engage in piracy?" "the law requires that I say no."

[@basdfgwe]

Then why are you nodding your head.

[@Illuminationsfromtheattic]

Glad to have LMG clips back! The rule should be that in order to write-off media production you've got to release what you've made to the public domain. They shouldn't be able to just throw it away and destroy it.

[@andybrice2711]

It is absurd and awful that we have tax laws which actually pay companies for destroying creative works.

[@andybrice2711]

​@@devilselbow Exactly. All of those are better options than erasing a creative work from existence. Even if it's a mediocre product. It's demoralizing for the industry and broader culture that thousands of people can spend years working on something, only for it to be deliberately destroyed for accounting reasons.

[@DeadPixel1105]

I'm in no way trying to defend Disney here, but what you described would be seen by some as an example of major government overreach. At the end of the day, the media productions *belong* to Disney. It's *their* property. I hate Disney, but I ultimately have to take the side of freedom. It's *their* property, thus they have the right to do whatever they want with it - even if it's burning it all in a big bonfire. Imagine if you created something yourself. A painting, art piece, or an independent film of your own. It's YOURS. You own the legal rights to it and all. But for whatever reason, you don't want people to see it anymore. You want to throw it away. Now imagine the federal government comes in and TAKES it from you, against your will, and forcibly releases it to the public. Again: against your will. I'm sorry, but that's not right at all. I can't agree with that.

[@Sidecutter]

@@DeadPixel1105 But why should they be able to retain that right by writing it off as a loss? If they are going to get reimbursed in the form of taxpayer dollars covering their loss as a deduction, then the taxpayer should be able to enjoy that media freely. That's not overreach, that's just a fair exchange.

[@andybrice2711]

​@@DeadPixel1105 I'm fairly libertarian, but I don't see how that would be an example of government overreach. Surely it's tax law which incentivizes these companies to erase content? If we change the wording of those laws to require releasing that content rather than erasing it, that's no more authoritarian. And it avoids an absurd waste of time and resources.

[@guard13007]

It's kind of amazing how there was a period of TV with no ability to record it, and basically everything ever produced from then is gone forever because it didn't make money to keep it. (I'm not exaggerating either. Yea, there's a lot you can access from then, but it's nothing compared to what was destroyed.) Then we had a brief period where physical media ruled. Everyone had tapes and then everyone had disks. Nothing could be lost forever because there was always someone who had a copy. Now we're going back to not having copies of anything anymore, and things are lost and will continue to be lost at an increasing rate. We had so much chest-thumping about how the constant reduction in drive space costs was going to make sure nothing was ever lost again - but it's still even cheaper to delete.

[@NicRankin]

Australia and New Zealand share disc region coding with South Amercia for DVD and Europe for Bluray. Literally the two furthest, slowest and most expensive areas to get anything shipped to us from. Not Happy. Get rid of region coding and it maybe be alright for those who really want physical media.

[@Noodles1771]

Blu-rays are increasingly going regionless 4K is regionless by definition.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

@@Noodles1771 Problem is I believe a lot of Disney stuff is locked. Most companies don't use it since Blu-ray, but some are quite adamant. I think Fox was/is also one that was still stubborn about it.

[@TheKazragore]

As a lover of physical media, this makes me immensely sad. One of our local retailers, JB Hifi, sold a limited run of the complete Marvel Infinity Saga and I picked one up. I have a physical copy of all those movies to back up my digital ones. If they stop selling physical media, or even just stop selling it period (no, streaming is not buying), then I'll just stop paying them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Steve30x]

0:42 , 0:56 1:12 that right there is proof why streaming is the future and physical media is irrelevant /s I will always buy my favourite TV shows and movies on DVD , Blu Ray and 4K Blu Ray as long as physical media is available.

[@pair_of_fins]

9:33 Luke's life flashing before his eyes

[@abhinavkuchhal2820]

Underrated comment right here 🤣

[@jsnotlout3312]

XD

[@JoshGinter]

The thing that is really difficult with this writer's strike compared to the lat one is that we just went through 10+ years of "peak TV" production. Anyone who is very interested in TV as an entertainment source has a giant list of shows they'd be interested in but have never gotten around to. Suits is a good example, it's a show that ran for 8(ish) seasons on a basic cable provider and was successful but never especially main-stream. It's now suddenly the biggest show in the world. A lot of this backlog content is just as potentially valuable as "new" content. The last writer's strike people were really noticing the lack of new shows or new seasons of shows. But in a world where Netflix and HBO have gotten us used to waiting 2 or 3 years for new Stranger Things or Game of Thrones, the consumer is not going to notice the effects of this strike nearly as acutely as they did. And this is BEFORE you even consider how much KZbin and video games have eaten into people's disposable entertainment time in the same time-frame. There is probably no world in which there are nearly as many Hollywood writers jobs next year as there was 2 years ago. That industry is going to contract a lot. But hopefully the writers that are still employed will be in a better position to make money from their creations.

[@platinumangel7446]

DVD's have been on a strap decline for a long time. It would be nice if everything was a least available for vod purchase.

[@AshnSilvercorp]

you can't be trusted to not share media. Regardless that convenience would bypass the issue, just like Steam accomplished. Steam still has DRM, but it can be bypassed. DVDs do to, but it can be bypassed. Companies on crusades to add the highest levels of DRM usually don't make as good of content.

[@mikep8080]

Smallville watcher in the US and one of the neat bits of trivia is Clarks mom in that series was lana lane in the original Superman movies when he went to Smallville.

[@classicrockonly]

I've been the victim to this with Netflix. Their Adventures of Sinbad spin off of the anime Magi was really good. It's gone forever. Can't even stream it

[@mrmoosetachio]

Wait. That is gone? Rip. I liked that anime

[@blamingfish432]

damn I remember watching that when i was younger, that sucks

[@classicrockonly]

@@mrmoosetachio sadly :( only Magi is left now

[@FoshizMe]

In response to Linus saying that he doesn’t believe there are cash reserves, it is my understanding that the Writer’s Union does have a strike fund to help its members pay their bills while on strike, however this fund can only get them so far before the money is gone.

[@matthewseckman2049]

This is why physical media will always be superior. You don’t have to pay monthly, and you don’t have to worry about someone else controlling it and removing it. It does get expensive when you get into foreign media (like anime) but it’s still way better than the show being removed with no where to watch it.

[@Sylkis89]

I remember how back in the day people were saying that they are happy to pay a piracy tax to legally download whatever they want from the internet, and for the govts of the world to be paying to the IP holders. Of course that proposition was having the downside of the small niche artists probably having trouble getting any money from that, and especially niche artists from abroad in relation to where the person downloading is. People were saying they don't want subscriptions to a specific service because they don't want to be limited to what they have access to. Then Netflix and Spotify and happened, having a near-monopoly with most of the stuff out there available on them, and so it got mainstream after all, with the mentality "if it's not on Netflix/Spotify, it's okay to pirate it". And in time people even got unused to pirating at all, torrents have died out for the most part. But now there's tons of content pulled from Netflix in favour of competing platforms so now you need to have several paid subscriptions to have access to what just Netflix alone could give back in the day, and on top of it content is getting thrown into the void like in the topic of this video. So I know the existence of streaming services will make a "piracy tax" even harder to push than back in the day as there will be lobby saying "just pay for the streaming services", but the sentiment is probably going to resurface now because of the fragmentation of the market and the disappearing content, that people just want a piracy tax instead :D

[@Hirens.]

Correction for Linus: Anime is a medium not a genre. I've seen many people start watching animation and/or anime just because some stories are so amazing and compelling. Arcane, Invincible, The Legend of Vox Machina, Vinland Saga, Dr. Stone, Chainsaw Man, Spiderman into and across the spider verse, DC animated TV series and movies (which are many times better than the live action stuff) and many many more. Of course I just gave some great examples of recent great anime. There are many more great ones that are even older.

[@LoganChristianson]

Anime is *specifically* animation originating in Japan. You listed majority examples of animation originating outside of Japan. Arcane is not anime. Spiderman is not anime.

[@Hirens.]

@@LoganChristianson I said anime and animation. Obviously I know the difference man... I also said I just gave some examples of great anime, I didn't want to post a humongous list of "must watch anime". Three out of my seven examples are anime. I expected ppl to dislike the fact that I recommend great animation and anime in the same centence but I specified that I'm talking about both and both are worth your while. Jeez.

[@majorfallacy5926]

There's a difference in connotation between anime and animation. E.g. whenever a self proclaimed anime fan asked me if i watch anime and i answered "do ghibli movies count?" they said no, even though we obviously both know that ghibli is technically anime. But it's not anime-anime.

[@Hirens.]

@@majorfallacy5926 I'm sorry but only mainstream anime fans don't consider Ghibli movies real anime. Actually, many people would argue that you are not a "real" anime fan if you didn't watch any of the Ghibli movies. Ghibli movies sit at the foundation of the culture of the anime medium and great anime masterpieces. Saying that Ghibli movies are not real anime anime, it's like saying that Arnold Schwarzenegger was not the father of bodybuilding and one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time, just because he didn't use steroids like everyone does nowadays.

[@majorfallacy5926]

@@Hirens. Yeah and the mainstream represents the majority/default, that's my point. Don't well ackshually words shifting connotations when they become mainstream. At best you're an old man yelling at clouds, but more likely you come off as trying so desperately to sound smart stating something that everyone already knows that you have to actively misinterpret the thing to get an opportunity to chime in.

[@WilliamTaylor-h4r]

They used to publish "voyager series" books, way better than smallville, never could find one except on a table somewhere, lots more fun plots, bigger trades, more defined retoricks, less bally-hoe and butt-sniff-tag, which was often a joke. Like the "liveship Traders & The invisible library" sort of run a conciousness like chatGPT, but without owning a direction or directive, more of a " _behold great earth child_ "

[@ajwzeitgeist]

I remember the 07-08 writer's strike and did a little google search to find it was 100 days. I remember films, shows, late night TV all had a serious dip in quality near that time as a direct consequence. The fact this strike is already longer with no end in sight than that one is definitely concerning. Everyone already missed out on a lot of stuff and dealt with huge delays because of the pandemic. These greedy massive coporations will never care about actual people, it seems...

[@astrahcat1212]

Sign in to do anything. Please think about what that future could be like. Think of what could happen if things turn full dystopia.

[@RobotnikPlays]

Australian here: they make absolutely zero effort to dub/localise content here. We get US English subtitles not UK English, and that is all that would be "needed", which is mostly z's->s's and color -> colour

[@TruePREDATOR2001]

Tbh the writing and production has been terrible as of late most stuff churned out is garbage and they go on strike expecting more money this might be a blessing in disguise reset

[@marine6680]

There is not enough production capacity to put out enough new content of good enough quality, to sustain all the different streaming services. To keep subscribers you need fresh content people want to see, often enough, that dropping their subscription between must see shows is less feasible. Disney is trying, but has milked a limited number of franchises too much, and viewers have content fatigue. All the studios saw the big pie Netflix had. (And Hulu & Prime) and wanted their own pie all to themselves rather than share. There was enough production capacity before to sustain two or three streaming services… Now everyone has their own pie, and they are missing half the ingredients and filling.

[@pieterrossouw8596]

Get your stuff while you can... between Disney removing ownership and Google wanting to DRM the internet, I'm thinking I want to preserve some of those older Disney movies for when I have kids and they need to watch stuff that isn't trash.

[@brendanrobertson5966]

most of the major chains in Australia have dropped their DVD sections last year anyway (and several chains that primarily did DVDs have also closed). Out of 5 chains I used to be able to get DVDs, there is only one now.

[@buda3d2007]

I go to op shops and get the $1 deals, I love DVD menus from the 2000’s when they incorporated it as part of the movie going experience, zoolander mugato dancing in place ring any bells from Zoolander, or Donkey begging to be picked on Shreck?

[@ShadowTheLight]

no more physical movies is gonna really hurt because it just doesn't feel like there is something to fill the void digitally. there is no platform im aware of that streams at a bitrate strong enough to replicate the quality of a disc copy and no one is willing to jump into allowing people to download movies legally because their scared of losing sales, even if the spreading will happen anyways.

[@drabberfrog]

There's no way any streaming service is going to match the 128 mbps of a 4k Blu-ray disc, many people's internet or wifi connection would struggle to even sustain a single stream of that and there's no way streaming services would pay the outrageous amount of money to stream that much data. Streaming simply does not match the 4K Blu-ray experience in terms of quality because of video compression.

[@Transfurred]

Theres only one streaming platform that i know allows downloads, and thats netflix

[@ShadowTheLight]

exactly, this is much of the reason im so concerned about the loss of 4K Blu-Ray. Appreciating art is one of my favorite things and I feel like you lose some of that with all the inevitable concessions of streaming.@@drabberfrog

[@ShadowTheLight]

Unfortunately from what I understand its not on TV or PC where it would be easiest to appreciate the difference between a less compressed file and a more compressed stream. Vudu used to provide PC downloads of movies but ceased which is sad.@@Transfurred

[@keancv]

love the video. 100 days is not long for a strike. Here in UK the Miners went on strike for a whole year, more recently Royal Mail came close to that

[@Reegareth]

I do wonder if this is gonna go the way video games are going right now where small studios kind of indie style are the only ones making the really exciting content but good things come out far less often and these massive studios are going to start having to cut overhead and shrink.

[@SharknadoSantista]

The apettite for foreign movies has been increasing quite a lot in the past five years. I recall watching a bunch of movies from Poland, Turkey, India, Latin America and South Korea while Hollywood was flowing through the content sludge. Even though most of them didn't have the budget nor the production value to surpass anything from Hollywood, they still had a lot of heart and soul and were able to deliver good quality.

[@FARBerserker]

Also, this has happened with games allready, see STEAM at least . . And even though they save the money on physical media, prices have only gone up!

[@Play-On7]

As a DVD collector I hope other studios don't get on the band wagon. I love collecting DVDs as they remind me of video rental stores.

[@FelanLP]

My value curve of content goes like this: 1: physical copies 2: downloadable digital copies of each released version you can actually safe on your system and play from any third party media player. (Looking at you, George Lucas and Disney+ and your tendency to alter your stuff.) 3: pirated content (basically the same as above but just not legal.) 4: content you can download but only play through their websites or apps. (looking at you, Steam) 5: stream content where you are limited by Bitrate and not by real frame-by-frame-quality. (looking at you, YT, Netflix and all others.)

[@Voltaic_Fire]

Don't feel bad for the WGA strikers, they rejected a deal that included everything they wanted except a minimum number of writers for any given project.

[@renegade637]

0:58 Luke: "The film is now unavailable anywhere on the internet." Linus: "Uh...I beg to differ. But, okay." Luke: "Except for *some* places on the internet." Only the tech geeks and nerds will understand why the guys are being coy about this so as to avoid demonetization.

[@panopticemu]

it's probably the PAL v NTSC thing.... plus so long as physical copies exist we can't be tied into whatever price hikes come into Disney +... and they have the added benefit of choosing what edits/censors become the only version available

[@RelakS__]

Streaming is good, because you can reach content easily. Streaming is bad, because: if you don't have internet for some reason, you don't have content. Streamer companies not necessarily put online the version of the movie you want to watch (e.g.: Aliens on Disney+ is not the director's cut). Streamer companies just remove content they decide it does not worth streaming anymore. Even though streamer companies advertise 4K surround, they not deliver, at least when you watch on a computer. I don't know if it works well on televisions, but sometimes I would guess that on a computer you have maybe 720p maximum.

[@CircuitReborn]

Streaming was dinsye stupidty. Their vault system was genius that worked...disney films were available for limited times producing artificial scarcity and people didnt get bored of them because of it.(Honestly game companies maybe should have done this with older games too)

[@InfernosReaper]

Disney's mistake was over-investing in streaming, which they have to maintain, instead of letting other companies eat the cost of video hosting and paying Disney for media access Once too many streaming services got into the game, it just became just like cable in terms of having to pay too much for just one or 2 shows.

[@kurvin2719]

man they're taking down shows that I watch as reruns, the office was removed from netflix and I was busy with only my third rerun. as well as the IT crowd

[@lu-gp4ld]

I have a similar problem with audio books, I can't get the physical ones anymore and when I get the digital ones my nearly only option is audible and they are remaking them all into originals, meaning I can't listen to specific narrator anymore, because you literally can't get the audio book.

[@Necatuss]

Honestly I've just been buying dvds lately and digitizing vhs tapes and upscaling them

[@michaelmonstar4276]

Okay, weird flex.

[@Necatuss]

@@michaelmonstar4276 It's not a flex, I just would rather own my media and have my own library. Plus you can get dvds and vhs tapes super cheap used.

[@FrenchyMcToast]

The anime industry has it's own problems but at least they're still allowed to be creative over there. Some of the shows that aired last season are one about a guy that turns into a vending machine, one where the devil gets a job at McDonalds and one where a severed head solves crimes.

[@originaldarkwater]

"People won't jump genres" Linus obviously hasn't watched a lot of anime or he'd know that every genre under the sun is pretty much represented in anime. I think the problem with people switching to anime for entertainment is that a large majority of North Americans just can't conceive of animation that's not only suitable for children.

[@GammaRayven]

With all that media now not being available legally online, I feel like the piracy of it feels different. Like downloading content that i could pay for makes me feel like a thieving pirate, but content thats been disapeared makes me feel like a historian searching through an old library for a lost text.

[@xcistens]

I have gone back to acquire Movie and TV via alternativ ways, after 10 years of streaming services, the entire industry have gone to shit again, after the golden days of early streaming.

[@t1m3f0x]

The studios basically offered them everything but the required minimum number of writers. For the studios that is the one thing that's nonnegotiable. The strike will only end when the WGA gives up on getting their required minimum number of writers, because the studios will never give it to them.

[@MyxeQ]

Thinking about the Piles of Disney VHSs that are at my parents house and wondering how many of those are not on D+ and will never be.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

I'm also trying to think of that and realize how many were actually copied tapes back then already. I think my dad knew someone who did it for about 5 USD a pop and you'd even get a fancy monochrome copymachined cover with it!

[@colin2623]

For me, the consolation is that so many lables like Kino Lorber, Arrow Video and Criterion still care deeply about the preservation and physical release of both popular and lesser known movies. And they're not stopping anytime soon :)

[@Qwackin604]

Notice how music isnt having this issue? All the music streaming platforms all have basically the same content and they need to sell you on features. If movie streaming went back to the old netflix model of everything being on one place then I would gladly pay for it but every fragmentation of movie/tv show avaliability makes it harder and harder to justify paying for it

[@ethan_bronzi]

Gotta love the Dr. Evil reference.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

Maybe they shouldn't make their Blu-rays like 25-30 Dollars for a basic edition... Normal price of a BD would be somewhere from 10-20, depending. And sure, they might release them only periodically, as they have this "vault" principle, and their releases are quite full of content and at high quality as I understand it, but still, they're pretentious about it and probably don't make as many sales as they could because of it.

[@johnbod]

"I will do what I can to legally acquire the content" Stick that on a t-shirt

[@michaelmonstar4276]

13:11 - This... This is the reason I care about physical media for things like movies. Or... well, yea, almost just movies. Cause audio isn't hard to stream at good quality, and video is a different story. - Although, I have to say, I'm really impressed with how little you can spot at even 1080p on Netflix, and I think Apple TV is even more impressive in terms of quality, that I could see. - Still, it's lossy. And yea, it depends how good the Blu-ray itself is, like the compression and all of that, cause you have/had terrible Blu-rays that were basically the old DVD-masters just moved to Blu-ray Disc for example. Though that was mostly when it was still new and companies were just trying to make a quick buck. But still, there have been mediocre transfers later on, for even movies that were produced when HD and Blu-ray were already a thing. - Anyway, it's still a reason that you should have it on a disc, to get the "lossless" quality, or at least the highest and most consistent quality possible. - It's like having "the reference" (even though it's often still not as good as the original, especially if it's on the best FILM), and not some lossy stream. - Though, again... again... it has become very impressive. And it's a matter of time before even video can be cost-realistically be streamed "losslessly".

[@Jman116Films]

You’d be hard pressed to find people to sympathize with the writers considering they’re the ones who ruined so many films and reboots.

[@Neojhun]

LOL until very recently it was difficult to get access to legitimate paid streaming sites in here in Aus. Disney is realy jumping the gun here expecting us to quickly be familiar with these paid services.

[@moshmosh26]

The internet caused the democratization of content creation - now hollywood needs to compete over our time and attention with youtube, steam and social media, alongside the korean and indian tv industries

[@aweirdwombat]

I've never heard of non-Australian movies being dubbed into Australian. But I've heard the reverse. Mad Max was dubbed in the US version. Though it's not Australian, Hellraiser was also famously dubbed for the US as well.

[@tonycamp4514]

What is the justification for allowing studios to write off poorly made content?

[@chad_levy]

You can generally write off things that are unprofitable.

[@tonycamp4514]

@@chad_levy yes, and how do they justify that? The incentive to waste money is perverse.

[@darkedgex]

And for places where Disney does still release physical media (USA, etc) they hobble their 4K Blu-ray Discs by only including HDR10 and holding back Dolby Vision for Disney+ (and AFAIK I've never seen them do HDR10+ which would at least be an option that would be close to DV)...

[@supervegito2277]

3:00 Hell even my "Watching stuff" is primarily listening to it, whilst i play a game (this video included), or something else. Not sure that counts as i have a multitasking addiction anyways...

[@AllelineNguyen]

I'm not sure if they will make less shows because of the strike, but the US has been facing stiffer international competition for years. For example, I don't subscribe to any US streaming platform, but I do subscribe to British streaming, and lots of people I know cancel Netflix so that they can subscribe to anime platforms like Crunchyroll. I don't think British, Indian, Korea, or Japanese anime shows will ever go mainstream, but the problem is that mainstream interest is getting more and more fragmented, so targeting mainstream interests will be less and less profitable anyway. This is simply an effect of a more atomized and socially fragmented late-stage capitalist society, and we will continue to see more "titans" fall because the market demand is no longer concentrated enough to support their weight. Companies will need to be a lot more efficient at identifying niche emerging markets, and streamlining their operations to target those niche markets.

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

I can honestly agree with that. I know i havnt been mainstream for a long time unless scifi stuff is still mainstream

[@ellismccoy]

It's a nightmare trying to find films to stream here in the UK and sometimes it's just not even possible to rent them (as if I'm paying £15 for a digital copy of a film). I'm strongly considered going back to pirating.

[@SamPhoenix_]

People were being put back in the Privacy pipeline when everyone and their mum made their own streaming platform. The original appeal of Netflix is that it was cheaper than cable and was a single place you can access all your media. Now you're paying £/$10 a month for one or two shows on a particular platform 5 times over. Spending the same amount you spent on cable but its way more inconvenient.

[@argleschnarble9441]

On Linus' last question... It's already insane how many different services run the movie/TV industry... In Australia there are Amazon, Netflix, Disney+ and Stan... And I don't really pay attention to the space, there is probably more... The point of Steam being the "one platform against piracy" barely works here because of how TV/Movies are delivered... You want 4k? Pay more... You want HDR? Pay (x) more... You want more than 1 screen to use the service (per household)? Pay more. Game Pass (PC) is the only sub service I pay for because I get it all for one price. No extra faffing about

[@ericmci]

Pouty face Linus thumbnail for the first video back is a bad choice right now for LTT

[@brazenbunnies]

I think writers deserve decent wages, but I can’t imagine this strike having an impact on my life.

[@Gremlack13]

Small ville was pretty big in America. CW network used to be the WB (Warner brothers) network before it changed in early 2000s.

[@AlasdairGR]

When companies don't provide easy or affordable access to content in many regions of the world, prioritize profits, and don't allow physical ownership, then piracy becomes one of the best tools for both providing access to content to the masses, and also preserving media that would get locked away or changed by those same companies.

[@scottbitz5222]

Everything made by the networks will reality TV except for the big names (think Nathan Fillion, Keifer Suherland, etc) who can draw viewers and crowdfunded stuff. Like, I mean, seriously, you just look at the success of The Chosen and realize that likely anything that's unique is likely going to not go through the big studios and instead will be made with money from crowdfunding!

[@NoblePineapples]

I have a private tracker, and once I got it I almost never use my streaming service accounts. I just keep them going because others rely on them lol.

[@LFwitch_hunter]

as an australian who actively collects disney movies as they come in and out of the vault. i hate this. did even know it was going on. the reason i like physical media, is physical isnt a license, physical cant be revoked, cant be deleted (unless you delete it yourself), it cant be lost (except physically lost) and it doesnt need an internet connection which we struggle with at the best of times i would not be surprised if our ACCC consumer watchdog gets involved with this because this is incredibly anti consumer

[@chad_levy]

I've generally been opposed to piracy and generally employ the Linus route of buying physical media and ripping into Plex. But lately I've been skirting that line with content from the Internet Archive. There's a lot of content on there that are generally unavailable otherwise, including things like the original Star Wars movies on Laserdisc (pre-"special editions") and TV shows from the 80s and 90s that I grew up with but cannot find anywhere. Some in the Plex community have even been putting together literal TV stations including era-specific commercials for a nice bit of nostalgia. These things have value and should be preserved but are legally dubious at best, life-altering illegal at worst.

[@Apheleion]

just found out FB is now using your FB posts and profile information for generative ai, the form to opt out doesn't work not sure if this is by design. Might be worth looking into.

[@EddieTee77]

Why remove the content in general? Just leave it on the platform for the few people who might want to watch it. It can't be that expensive (for someone like Disney) to store it?

I wanted to watch old tv show "Northern Exposure". It is not available in my region at all in any digital form. I have all streaming subscriptions, I pay a lot for them and even then only source left is torrent. That's just stupid.

[@IOUaUsername]

Humans are creative, some so much they can't stop themselves from creating things. Hollywood's business model will have no effect on this. The creations will still be made, but they won't be mad with high budgets in Hollywood any more. Some of the best shows came from small budgets though, so maybe there will be a new golden age of TV, but online.

[@jamesgarvey2090]

What happens to purchased digital content from these services? Do you loose access to them? I have always been warry of digital content purchases because you have no control to access.

[@Jafar-dr6to]

I have all 10 seasons of smallville on dvd and I’m still a fan Tom and Micheal do a podcast together now

[@basdfgwe]

My "friends" have stopped the streaming and have gone back to downloading.

[@jsnotlout3312]

Physical media is dying, and my soul along with it (When I started writing post apocalyptic stuff, I never thought I would actually live in it, but here we are) For me, its not even the quality. I just literally cannot afford to pay for streaming + internet +etc. Im also concerned, because the locall public library is where I get a lot of movies to watch, so idk what to do anymore

[@Jacarroll417]

Well, there are metric shit tons of books out there. Your local Library is a great place to find them.

[@LCaddyStudios]

Australia's film Industry is likely to rocket very soon due to this strike, netflix and other streaming services have been increasingly utilising Australia for filming

[@Tecnoc22]

I stopped pirating for a while when netflix was really good. But then they started losing content and a dozen other services popped up. Trying to figure out where I can stream what is too much of a hassle. I want everything in it's original format in one convenient place. Spotify is a great example, their catalog is extensive and fairly consistent, so I do not pirate music. If movies and tv shows could do the same for a reasonable price I would consider stopping pirating things.

[@gamin9wizard945]

I'd be watching Crater right now just to spite Disney, but honestly, I can't be bothered to watch a Disney movie anyway so I won't.

[@Turnabout]

This strike and the resulting studio actions make me awfully glad for my Plex server. Way too many stories floating around right now about titles pulled from services like Prime Video for my liking, and I don't watch a lot of moneymaking blockbusters.

[@harrkev]

If it was worth watching then they wouldn't have pulled it.

[@InfernosReaper]

Sadly, by them gradually phasing out physical media, eventually, there will be no *legal* way to do personal media servers.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@harrkev You're confusing something like Disney dropping Disney programming from their service with something like Amazon no longer having the rights to stream a particular show or movie

[@Turnabout]

@@InfernosReaper You're assuming I only want the latest and newest shows and movies coming out of Hollywood. Most of it is dross. I'm more worried about not being able to watch classic HK movies or other obscure titles after purchasing them on Amazon or iTunes because they lost the license. This has already happened more than a few times.

[@InfernosReaper]

@@Turnabout I don't even vaguely get how you are making that assumption. That aside, it is a shame that licensing deals let people suddenly lose access to what they specifically paid for. In those cases, downloading stuff from piracy sites isn't even piracy, but getting what you paid for

[@jamez6398]

Disney's rising disdain for DVDs and Blu-ray discs is a personal affront to me whenever I look at the hundreds of DVDs and dozens of Blu-ray discs I own. I'm, like, "You trynna diss me bro?" Also 4K streaming will never be as good as 4K Blu-ray in terms of quality. Sure, Disney's making mostly fairly mid tier and lower movies, apart from Spiderman No Way Home and Guardians of the Galaxy 3, and much worse than that streaming shows at the minute, but they made some bangers in the past and I guarantee they will make some good quality movies again at some point in the future. Streaming shows, not so much the only time was good was the first half of WandaVision. Rather they kill off Disney+ with the garbage shows so they keep supporting DVDs and Blu-ray discs even though it's ultra convenient to watch their old movies like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, Pinochio (the good one, well the animated one), Little Mermaid, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc and The Incredibles 1. Sure, they're only killing off DVDs and Blu-ray discs in Australia and New Zealand for now, but that is just the beginning of the end. It starts off there and slowly spreads to the rest of the world. I need something to pass the time if my internet goes down for a bit, apparently they don't want to let me have new movies and shows on DVD anymore I hope it's only Disney but I have a feeling once they set the trend, others will follow suit. I get sick of watching the same stuff I can't read a book I can't maintain focus I will be even more fed up when the internet goes down in the future at this rate I got no mobile data signal in my room I can't even hotspot despite having unlimited data which sucks.

[@jsnotlout3312]

For me, its not even the quality. I just literally cannot afford to pay for streaming + internet +etc

[@williamrogers4917]

Starting out in Hollywood writing is gig work. Many writers are paid better than average workers. Plus the Union has turn down pretty good deals. The hold up is being the writers want to have more writers in the writers room than what the project calls for. The reason is the Union want more writers worker to collect the union dues. It is the Union that are being greedy.

[@I.____.....__...__]

0:58 Maybe in this case you can find it on the high seas, but you'd be surprised how much stuff is gone forever. They say "the Internet never forgets", but just because something might physically exist on a storage-device somewhere in the world, doesn't mean it's still available, there are plenty of things that are just _gone_ and can't be found anywhere. (Also, it doesn't reflect well on something if people didn't even bother to pirate it, which applies to things that might be surprising.) 2:01 Clearly, Ed forgot about AI. The studios won't concede anything. … 3:45 The AI copyright ruling means nothing because: (1) The media companies have been influencing/controlling laws, especially copyright laws forever, did you forget about Disney? The anti-AI-copyright law will NOT stand long. 😒 (2) So what? Once companies are able to streamline their AI pipeline to pump out content even faster than they already do (like how once they streamlined making animated movies, they suddenly came out metric boatloads 😒), they won't care about copyright. They'll just keep spewing out movies left and right, milking it for whatever they can for as long as they can then moving onto the next AI-generated content, just like how scammers know their scams won't last long, but they don't care, they hit-and-run and move onto the next thing. (3) The selling point of media will no longer be the characters or content, but the actors, they'll own the image-rights to actors and bank on those instead of the characters and stories. Why do you think they're forcing actors to sell them eternal rights to their images and 3D-scanning them all already? 🤨 So they can own people's faces and AI-generate everything else. (Yes, they could generate artificial people and they definitely will. _S1M0NE_ was the future, studios will eventually generate bespoke super-attractive people for their content, but for now, while people still simp for existing people, they'll use those until they can start getting people to simp for fake people (which is 100% possible, look at Hatsune Miku or vtubers). That's the future of media: a constant stream of AI-generated garbage. 4:50 They have nobody to blame but themselves. Maybe they shouldn't have moved to Hollywood to be a moeveysta. 🤷 It's not like it's a secret that it's hard and there's an imperial f-ton of competition, that's been a known quantity for decades. They CHOSE to not pursue other careers and risk everything to go get faymous. Nobody owes them anything. 🤷 5:06 That's not new, studios have been doing that forever. Besides the several high-profile examples of completed shows and movies being canned and written off, studios have been doing stuff like that forever. Do you have any idea how many completed movies are sitting in a vault, unreleased? Granted, most of them aren't Batwoman, most of them are low-budget b-/c-movies, but still, those are the work of many people who were hoping they'd get a foot in the door and grow and improve and get a break some day Instead, their one movie is sitting in a vault, collecting dust, waiting for MAYBE some day, a big movie will come out that's sort of similar, and the studio will re-title the movie and market it as the blockbuster to try to trick people into renting it instead (like what they did with whatever the original title of _Transmorphers_ was that caused the director to have to defend himself on the old IMDB message-boards when people said he was trying to rip off _Transformers_ that came out years later). 5:55 No, CW was a merger of UPN and WB. _Buffy_ was originally on UPN then "moved" to CW, while Angel started on CW. 6:00 Lots of studios film in Canada. Sometimes they don't even film in Canada but "partner" (wtf that means) with Canada to get those tax-credits. And by sometimes, I mean FREQUENTLY. Ever look at the end-credits of movies? "Filmed on location in Prague/Sydney/here/there, with the participation of the Ontario/Québec film board" 😒 11:13 China's "movies" are just CCP propaganda. And even the ones that aren't (*cough*Meg2*cough*) are just regular China propaganda. 🙄

[@seankkg]

That no company ever uses a print on demand type of service blows my mind. Even if it costs a bit more to the consumer the option existing is worthwhile.

[@Lukiel666]

Watching the old Star Trek OS. Which are about 52 minutes long. So would have ~8 minutes of the show cut so they could cram more commercials into it. 44 minutes now. So 15% of the show you were paying for if you were on cable was outright stolen and replaced with ads to sell you crap you had no interest in.