Disney SUED $10B Over Claims Moana Was Stolen!

[@nathanschwartz6693]

This already happened with Zootopia, and from what I can tell, nothing came from it.

[@Jonathanest90s]

Exactly!

[@mayracordero382]

That is awful

[@kameronbiggs5495]

He's like all the others, he's just making a fool of himself. Besides, we have not seen any evidence except claims

[@cfruge444]

I was hoping somebody else remembered that.

[@ryanratchford2530]

I know that in the UK dvd, Zootopia is sold as Zootropolis. Maybe Zootopia copyrighted name that was related?

[@CaptainCat101]

People sue Disney over stolen ideas all the time, I don't think much will come from this lawsuit

[@Jangobadass]

No man hath ever been able to withstand their *ARMY* of lawyers...😨

[@NostalgiaKing90]

First the Warner Animation Decimation, then Shrek 5 gets pushed back, now this. Why can't we have nice things?!

[@Woobuggy848]

You have no idea…if it ain’t one thing, it’s certainly is another. Look what happened with the lion king, and somebody said it's a bit of a rip off of kimba, the white lion. And yet they said the former is its own thing.

[@BrennySpain]

This sort of drama always happens at the start of the year too!

[@looneytrainsdinosaurs]

This year is not at a great start

[@BrennySpain]

@ definitely not at all! It can’t get any worse right?

[@buster5661]

Because money

[@tigerlord9302]

Why do they always wait until several years after the said project is relevant again?

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

Because he attempted to sue before and was told he was too late. He waited for a sequel, at which point he was legally allowed to sue again.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

​@@DaveLeeDownUnderNow that would make for a good movie plot someone waiting to sue because of a sequel.

[@benmalsky9834]

This seems very ridiculous, there’s a big chance nobody has even heard of this Bucky project before this.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

Important to note that the script exists and was registered with the copyright office at the time it was written.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ But still, the teams who worked on both Moana’s have plenty of evidence to support their sides.

[@Drace90]

Pretty much every similarity listed is just a basic understanding of polynesian culture and mythology. Even if there is a script that drew inspiration from them, that doesn't mean nobody else can ever again.

[@fightingdreamers5599]

Nobody doesnt have to know who or what Bucky is once it was copyrighted then in a U.S. court his lawyers can prove it was his script Moana was created from. Thats why in the USA it is widely accepted to copyright all of your literary works etc when the copyright office.

[@Drace90]

@@fightingdreamers5599 That is not at all how that works.

[@KyleJBAwesomeness-OfficialChan]

Nah I’m pretty sure Disney is gonna win in a landslide because they don’t give a Steamboat Willie if they get sued and it almost always ends up with the plaintiff paying the charges for a false alarm lawsuit. The same situation happened with the Disney Junior 2018 reboot of Jim Henson’s Muppets Babies created by Jeffrey Scott where he filed a lawsuit claiming they ripped off his creation but the plaintiff was declared guilty because Disney never heard about his production bible from the original 1980s series.

[@Jonathanest90s]

Oh God another one? This is not going anywhere since ideas can’t really be sued. This happened the same thing with Zootopia.

[@fightingdreamers5599]

Not the same thing. Its not an idea if you have a copyrighted script.

[@helenbrydon1113]

Not to Mention that it’s Happened with Pixar’s finding Nemo with a French book

[@RespectTheLogos3]

Remember, if it weren’t for someone copying The Honeymooners, we wouldn’t have The Flintstones. And if someone didn’t copy Sergeant Bilko, there would be no Top Cat!

[@LorenIpsum75]

"Jackie Gleason, creator of The Honeymooners, considered suing Hanna-Barbera Productions, but decided not to since he did not want to be known as "the guy who yanked Fred Flintstone off the air". - Wikipedia

[@williamdoyle1108]

Huckleberry Hound, Chief Wiggum, Yogi Bear. Andy Griffith, Edward G. Robinson, Art Carney

[@charliepugh6049]

“Who the hell’s Bucky?” 😂

[@fightingdreamers5599]

The script he wrote in 2003

[@hectormanuel8360]

The concepts are too generic and generally public domain any similarities are pure coincidence.

[@PhantomHarlock78]

They asking for 10B makes the case less serious.

[@fightingdreamers5599]

No thats how it is done. If they win they will not get 10 billion but will get enough to never work again in life.

[@FinnHutcherson]

This should've happened years ago when the first movie was released.

[@CreditsBean17]

@@FinnHutcherson don't you mean original

[@benmalsky9834]

I gotta be honest, it’s kind of hilarious how Woodall claims many specific details in Moana and its sequel just happened to be in his pitch. This is a big red flag that Disney will win this case as a lot of what he’s alleging just can’t be a coincidence and is clearly the work of the creativity of the WDAS teams in both Burbank and Vancouver.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

Not entirely a red flag. If the script exists and these elements exist in it, and it was registered with copyright 17 years ago (as is the case here), this could be very tricky. This also would’ve been dismissed from court very quickly if he didn’t have a legitimate case.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ What do you think Dave, do you think Disney has a strong case in their favor?

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

Hard to know without seeing the alleged script, really. Worst case scenario - this gets settled out of court like the Pirates case.

[@benmalsky9834]

@@DaveLeeDownUnder Yeah, like Pirates, Moana is such a huge deal for Disney that they would want to get this settled if it were to drag for a while.

[@EthanChan-gs9ze]

Disney will win. Claiming that the Moana idea was stolen when other companies have copied others, is completely nonsense. Also, 10 billion dollars is really overkill. P.S: I don't think have ever heard of Bucky until this video came out.

[@fightingdreamers5599]

You dont have to know Bucky or ever read it etc. So many of you dont understand copyright law. He copyrighted Bucky from 2004. As long as the storylines are similar etc then he can win.

[@danielgudinojuarez6729]

Disney will win the court case

[@mayracordero382]

I hope so

[@benmalsky9834]

@@mayracordero382Me too

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

I Hope too.. 10 Billion IS Just over the top! Thats more than any Frozen and Hannah Montana Set that got sold!

[@disneyngooglesuckatvideogames]

Hope they lose.

[@abdulchahrouk]

Yeah nah they will win

[@PurpleTwink]

This Lawsuit Isn't Going Anywhere

[@benmalsky9834]

Yep

[@francythearackulele6275]

You are both blunt about it

[@RespectTheLogos3]

The phrase “Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery” has no meaning today.

[@nickdorenkamp959]

I think Disney is in the clear on this. While Mr. Woodall has every right to claim copyright infringement however simply stating basic facts of what inspired his idea that he claims Disney "ripped off" aren't really strong legs. Plus studios get alot of scripts that either collect dust and get lost overtime or get tossed in the trash because someone probably thought that it wasn't going to be a money maker.

[@mikayelalikhanyan1587]

This dude needs a reality check those themes aren't invented by him

[@benmalsky9834]

$10 billion? That’s a whole lot. I hope this gets settled quickly.

[@alexbonilla4655]

They should be sued for bullying theaters as they cheated from Sonic 3.

[@BoyNamedSue4]

If he was ripped off I hope he’s compensated. That being said, a lot of the points highlighted just feel like natural story elements you would include if you’re telling a story in this setting.

[@toTheWatcher]

I would need to know more about this Bucky project that makes it unique. So far all I heard is they both used Polynesian culture and generic story tropes.

[@fightingdreamers5599]

But Moana is not generic and neither is Bucky. Do you know the meaning of generic? Do you understand copyright law is different in USA than other countries? If he did not have a realistic case the judge would have dismissed his case it would not go anywhere. A judge first has to analyse if a case should go to trial based on the evidence

[@toTheWatcher]

@fightingdreamers5599 lol do you even know what the heroes journey is? It has been used to death and Moana is no different. Also for the uneducated it's the judge's job to act as referee, ruling on issues of law before and during the trial. A jury's decision is based on the evidence presented and the judge's instructions on the law. A judge basically says it isn't frivolous, but nothing about the viability of the case. That's for a jury to decide. Kimba the white lion had a better case on the lion king. Based on the information shared here.

[@kitsonicko]

10 Billion? Let's Hope Disney Wins!

[@SketchBud]

Ten Billion Dollars? That's a major yikes there!

[@KlingonCaptain]

He lost me at "the most in all history." Nintendo should sue him for plagiarizing The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker.

[@highflyfishing]

Disney has been doing this since I was born and probably way before that. First thing that comes to mind is lion king

[@magnetoonproductions9541]

Nothing is truly new under the sun.

[@bullmonty764]

The only problem with this case is the fact that the plaintiffs forgot the tiny, insignificant, little fact that Disney has the best lawyers in the Godforsaken world. And for 10 *billion* dollars? What are we, to believe that they are the reincarnation of Dr. Evil or something? Yeah, they’re gonna lose in about three seconds - if they get lucky

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

I think, if the Pirates case is anything to go by - this could potentially wind up behind settled out of court (if it’s looking like the guy has a real case here). No chance the guy is getting anywhere near $10b.

[@Taydar]

​@@DaveLeeDownUnderno he doesn't. It was already dismissed with a mountain of evidence.

[@Kio954b]

To any artist working for a company: they own your creativity now. Thats literally why they pay you a salary. They purchase your thoughts and ideas and they couldnt give a damn how attached you are to a character or story you invented. Its theirs now.

[@fabianmoye7919]

No wonder why Disney had such a big it outof nowhere

[@toTheWatcher]

Speaking of, i wrote a fanfic with Chris-chan's cousin in 1999, 2 years before Shadows debut, about a black brooding hedgehog that no one understands and wants revenge for a lost loved one. It had over 20k views on fanfic. Clearly Paramount stole it to make Sonic 3. I'm willing to settle for a mere 200M obo

[@sirxanthor]

Something people need to know. You write something, you copyright it immediately. Even if in sections. Countless books and movies have been stolen from their original writers when they are submitted to publishers. Publishers post addresses that have small print that anything sent to them, is their property. Writers get turned down then years later end up seeing their book in a store or film. I have no doubts about the article.

[@NathanSpies]

The only Bucky we know is the one that runs the gas stations

[@toTheWatcher]

Lol i thought the same thing

[@CreditsBean17]

John Musker and Ron Clements are not gonna like this.

[@mayracordero382]

This is so unfair and disney needs to be treated well.

[@disneyngooglesuckatvideogames]

Unfair for a mega corporation with billions in profits. 😂 Someone hand me the small violin.

[@Drace90]

Okay... but we all know this is bullshit right? Unless this guy owns polynesian culture and mythology, basic storytelling techniques and common Disney tropes, he got nothing. Disney's attorneys will read that and yawn.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

He’s got a screenplay that he wrote nearly 20-years ago that he filed with the copyright office in the early-2000s. He’s clearly got something if the judge has ordered the case be handed over to the jury.

[@Drace90]

​​@@DaveLeeDownUnderThat doesn't matter. Every similarity listed is ridiculous. Most are just a basic understanding of polynesian culture and mythology. Even if there is a script that drew inspiration from them, that doesn't mean nobody else can ever again. "Starts with a flying shot towards an island"? He wants to argue that he owns the concept of an establishing shot? "Protagonist returns home a hero" So he came up with the Heroes Journey, the most basic of storytelling templates, before Aristotle did? Okay. Good luck in court, buddy.

[@lexramstudios1386]

Didn't something happen like this with Finding Nemo and Kung Fu Panda?

[@zingkoinko1231]

Wait second i herd bucky beefore isn't that name of the ship from Jake and the Nederland pirates?

[@ArendAlphaEagle]

Oh my god, I thought this vid was coming from those grifter-type channels such as Clownfish TV, based on that thumbnail 💀

[@waltsapartment-105]

So Bucky “borrows” from the same Polynesian culture, stories and symbology that Disney did and wants to cash in how many years later?

[@maggiegray9307]

It’s always something

[@MilasMixMedia]

SO, it’s like saying like all of the Disney fairytales story that they made, were by Han’s Christian Andersen like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Beauty And The Beast, The Little Mermaid and Frozen, so you know it’s not new, but i always thought Moana was like an original story that Disney came up with like i think they’re out of there league going up against Disney cause Disney can be quiet aggressive with theses legal cases, there was another case evolving around another I.P but i can’t remember what it was.

[@JoeAdams-c4p]

OH JUST TURN THOSE DISNEY G RATED FRANCHISES INTO R RATED!

[@theggamer2824]

Some crazy women tried to sue for saying frozen was based on her life.

[@barneyerror4561]

What does it cost for people to be kind to one another?!

[@CamdynMcBryde]

Why would they do that?

[@BR-jw7pm]

Why would someone sue Disney or Disney stealing someone’s ideas?

[@Jonathanest90s]

They didn’t.

[@BR-jw7pm]

@@Jonathanest90s I’m a tad skeptical as well (on Disney stealing the idea) as Moana references Polynesian culture as a whole so not something “copyright-able”. However, I’ll wait until more info is out to make an informed opinion

[@FinnHutcherson]

BR-jw7pm the same thing they say of the lion king

[@BR-jw7pm]

@ I watched a vid explaining how Lion King was NOT a rip-off of Kimba and I was convinced

[@zingkoinko1231]

It could also bee the parents complaints beecause they'd do not want their children on the screens all time 😑 🙄 😒 😐 😳 😕 😑 🙄 😒 😐 😳 😕 😑

[@kendjicornely6401]

And I thought the lion King copy right business was ridiculous now this you have got to be kidding me

[@MatthewK122]

Why now creator sue them during sequel

[@russellvawter5604]

Good grief!

[@endore050]

Feels like an odd choice to have Antz and A Bug's Life as the example of people having similar ideas when it's one of the most famous examples of plagiarism in the animation industry. Jeffrey Katzenberg stealing the idea from John Lasseter around the time Toy Story was in theaters.

[@olleselin]

IMPOSSIBLE!!!! These people are just imagening that thry stole it😭😭😭😭

[@MoonStudio95]

Seriously!? This is not very common since the company is very powerful…

[@ClassicSonicManiac]

2025 is not a good start for Disney.

[@Jonathanest90s]

🙄

[@JaviSocas2My2ndChannel]

No year is safe for Disney.

[@lesterwilliamsjr649]

Donkey Kong is looking at the mouse and is saying you wish you had my kind of luck isn't that right King Kong. 😂

[@TramiNguyen-oi3kp]

Oh no!

[@Disneyactionvideos]

oh no 😥…

[@JustinGrant-jf5gv]

That is a lot of similarities, but it's probably just a coincidence. Moana is partly based on the legend of Maui and I guess there's only so much you'll want to do with it or there's just that one story that should go with it.

[@BR-jw7pm]

I wanna say Disney wouldn’t do this, given how dystopian they’ve become the past few years (arbitration anyone?), this could be possible…

[@benmalsky9834]

Very overdramatic.

[@Lemuel928]

Wait..They’re not welcome?🤔

[@Taydar]

Why is this being covered. Everytime they make something successful, someone cones out saying it was there idea. Judge should throw him out of court.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

The biggest media company gets sued for an astronomic amount of money - it's a big story and worth covering. It hasn't been thrown out of court because there's obviously something to it. Worth noting the writer has the script, and it was registered with the copyright office in the early-2000s. The judge has handed the decision over to the jury.

[@Taydar]

@DaveLeeDownUnder Disney provided buckets of development material back then to prove the contrary. And everyone in Hollywood has a script. Means nothing. As stated by multiple people, this happens everytime something is successful. Ron Clements even said he had never heard of the script. Just call the guy a greedy buttmunch and be done with it.

[@Metalisalearning77]

As with ANY case involving copyright infringement; you're going to need to know concrete facts on BOTH sides of the argument. As with ANY accusation of wrongdoing; it's all too tempting to believe in whoever is wronged on face-value which can be dangerous. I'm not a fan of the Draconian levels of copyright protection that corporations have over their Intellect Properties (IP) which consequently can/will result in Zombie franchises & more worryingly creative stagnation. I can also see how protecting one's work from plagiarists is important but there's a danger this can be exploited maliciously (referred to the Marvin Gaye family suing Robin-Thicc for "Blurred Lines or The Rolling Stones with The Verve for 'Bittersweet Symphony') & with grifters looking to plagiarise with impunity via AI; it's going to be bleak days for individual creatives leaving their personal stamp on the work.

[@mightyfilm]

I call bullcrap. This happens ALL the time in Hollywood. All the scripts that pass through producers' offices, they're all bound to be similar, and I doubt every single one even so much as grazes against someone's eyeball. The facts are, this is a big company that has big money coming off of a big hit movie. A lot of the other things on the list art just petty. A character transforms into a bug? Really? That said, Antz was a game of chicken between Dreamworks and Disney. There's a great story there that I forgot the specifics of. If anything, the karma lies in the fact that Madagascar is a beloved franchise with memorable characters and I only barely get reminders that "The Wild" exists.

[@matthewherrera6188]

Woah that is just whoa ❤

[@bryanvelazquez2836]

I literally just wanted to avoid this and the others that happened in the early new year, that’s all.

[@JustinFrazier_360]

This is so bad for Disney

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

Yeah this is horse crap as soon as you said this lady works at Dreamworks it's obvious what this is. Because if this person's claims are true why did they wait twenty damn years to speak up about it? Why did it take them until the SEQUEL to their supposed story idea was released to say something? Also her beef would've been with Eisner not anyone currently at Disney now and certainly not the team that made the first Moana. This all just reeks of someone desperate to take advantage of someone else's success, and the fact that it's someone from Dreamworks is really disappointing. At a time where Animation really needs to shut doubters up this is the last thing Dreamworks should be worried about right now.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

You've got this all wrong. It's not the person fron DreamWorks that suing at all. The person from DreamWorks had a first-look deal with disney _at the time_ and allegedly told the writer he would be able to get it made at Disney.

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

@@DaveLeeDownUnder Right I got that he did'nt work for dreamworks at the time, but the fact that he is NOW is why I'm suspicious of his motive. Again if this is all true why did it take him so long to do anything about it?

[@eerieeric834]

Why is all this happening now instead of when the original movie came out I wonder

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

From what I understand, he attempted to sue them after it was released and it became a big hit, but it was thrown out of court because it wasn’t within the statute of limitations - with the release of the second film, it is again.

[@devinsauls3568]

This is karma for what Disney did to Sonic Movie 3!

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

What did Disney do to Sonic Movie 3?

[@devinsauls3568]

@DaveLeeDownUnder Sabotage

[@benmalsky9834]

@@DaveLeeDownUnderNothing. People are just comparing two movies that were released the same day. Happens all the time.

[@lexramstudios1386]

You're trying to get attention

[@mightyfilm]

@@benmalsky9834 Yet, there were so many movies that were released the same day, and we all forgot every single one of them, and no one said a word. If anything, the biggest loser is Sony for screwing up het another Spider-Man villain universe movie.

[@buster5661]

Billion? 10 billion?

[@RespectTheLogos3]

I hope this does not cause severe damage to Disney. I really want to see Elio and Zootopia 2. 😢

[@looneytrainsdinosaurs]

Oh dear

[@hectormanuel8360]

This will get nowhere

[@manoftheusajones5147]

Have you also heard about The Simpsons Tapped Out going offline?!

[@LarrySBM]

this sounds very fake

[@Willchannel90]

Uh oh.

[@TUM_Toons]

Eh, idrc. Internet based shows are in, so screw Disney, Paramount and WB... except for Smiling friends and primal

[@SamanthaAdaireYoung]

Is this true?

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

I do not report on fake news, or make up fake news. Yes, it's true.

[@SamanthaAdaireYoung]

@DaveLeeDownUnder thank you

[@SamanthaAdaireYoung]

@DaveLeeDownUnder I'm so upset and mad at disney at this point they keep messing things up and stuff

[@mgrvr]

Another reason Disney is falling off.

[@Jonathanest90s]

What does this have to do with Moana 2?! 🙄

[@devinsauls3568]

Sonic is winning

[@DaveysWonderfulWorld]

What!?!?

[@Jonathanest90s]

@@devinsauls3568this has nothing to do with Moana!

[@DaveysWonderfulWorld]

This is not a good year for Disney so far 😳

[@Jonathanest90s]

What?

[@Pizzapizzapeterpeter-zg6hd]

Oh yeah you started with Disney zootopia is total ripoff of his design Goldman zootopia creation that’s a real cringe I want stay away from me copy cat

[@Pizzapizzapeterpeter-zg6hd]

Disney will be in jail stealing idea you can’t escape the law because look movies and park is closed

[@awesomeraf7851]

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE SONIC SPEED!!

[@Jonathanest90s]

Are you high?

[@awesomeraf7851]

Nope, just quoting cheesy Sonic quotes

[@LorenIpsum75]

This is karma for what DisneyCorp did to Osamu Tezuka's "Kimba the White Lion".

[@jaredgarcia8638]

"Osamu"

[@LorenIpsum75]

​@@jaredgarcia8638 Much appreciated 😎👍

[@benmalsky9834]

That was also just a coincidence.

[@benceszarvas5464]

​@@benmalsky9834It was not and there are a tons of proof The Lion King originally meant to be a Kimba/Leo adaptation but the contract was over the moment Osamu Tezuka died. And funny thing that Disney was in Japan and saw their project that was finished in 1997. They just rushed the hell out of The Lion King before the JP studio could finish their version. The guy that made cheap Disney knock offs in the 90's and had a guy that always informed him what Disney is working right now...well just take a look at that 1994 Leo white lion movie...Disney wanted to sue the guy after he delivered the cheap Aladdin 2 weeks before Disney but lost the case because all of Disney's movies were nothing more but public domain materials....They got what they deserve in the 90s and even now.

[@benmalsky9834]

@ BUT, unlike Kimba/Leo there are no humans in The Lion King.

[@callmethecommentcountess9329]

Ok

[@justinperry2520]

Disney's in trouble again

[@msteele5665]

🤷🏼‍♀️ 🤷🏾‍♂️ No one cares. Bigger BS in the world than this.

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

You cared enough to click and comment.

[@msteele5665]

@DaveLeeDownUnder true story 🤔 🤣

[@msteele5665]

@DaveLeeDownUnder but.... still do not care if Disney loses millions lol.

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@JaviSocas2My2ndChannel]

California is on fire you know while this was happening. Also who's Bucky?

[@DaveLeeDownUnder]

The fires are devestating, and I know first hand how awful and frightening the situation can be. However, this doesn’t mean an entire industry has to shut down and other news doesn’t exist. I’m just doing my job reporting on the news.

[@icecreamhero2375]

I love Moana but disney might be cooked.

[@shadoward1051]

AAUUUUGGGHHH!!!

[@Wolfduo-Productions]

First

[@volzschlittseyxavierkoopa9287]

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