Null Sec Better Than Wormhole Exploration? | EVE Online

Null Sec Better Than Wormhole Exploration? | EVE Online
After having a disappointing time searching for data and relic sites in Wormhole (WH) space; I decided to take my exploration fit astero and needlejack filament into Null sec and see what its like there.
Without giving the video away it went well and I even managed to find a ghost site and a contested/besieged covert research facility (I think lol).
The real question though is which is better, Wormhole Space or Null Sec Space? Where can you make the most money (ISK)?
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[@calebe1566]

Ah yes, I love random fleet invites, would've been really funny if I joined. Great video as always!

[@DisownedHero]

thanks man :) and don't, worry I would have found you and unsuspectingly jumped you to null if you did lol

[@rkrb3112]

Seriously exploration is one of the most intense and fun activity to watch...hope you make more such videos

[@granthellmann3678]

Data sites in certain regions in NS are the most profitable sites in the entire game, certain sites can earn u 7 bil from a single can

[@fenriders7008]

@@granthellmann3678 if you don’t mind… what are these 7bil a can data sites? I got a few accounts to plex and explo is my jam.

[@notdaz706]

@@fenriders7008 wondering the same thing

[@jacobtb1]

I wasted 3+ hours on WH space, came back empty handed. In rare event I found site, they were all protected. Gonna gives this a shot.

[@sadvlad1015]

I got 50 mil yesterday in an hour from WH space

[@audiblebites553]

You were looking in the wrong holes

[@audiblebites553]

C1-C3 will have data relics with no defenders. Anything “unsecured “ or “forgotten” will have rats and the hackable cans are almost always worthless

[@sadvlad1015]

@@audiblebites553 thats what she said

[@fenriders7008]

@@audiblebites553 c1-3 also still spawn sleeper data and relic sites, I often have unlucky hours where I can spend it all in c3s and never see a single pirate site.

[@Shrooblord]

Hey! I love your vids. However, I would have preferred if you showed the deepscan on-screen so we can see what you're talking about when you make comments like "oh it's just a " and "still at 14... not at 5..." it's easier to follow your thinking process if we can see what you're talking about. You don't even have to say what you're thinking in these random moments (although, that would be _even_ better!). Just helps to have the visual aid. Great stuff though -- you're getting me into the parts of EVE that I've always shied away from before.

[@grahamdixon1699]

the 14 and 5 reference is distance from himself. The D-Scan has several settings for distances it can scan to, 1 5 10 and 14 AU are some examples. So he's speaking about how far away other players or npcs are usually because he can detect them on the 14 setting but not the 10.

[@whitechocolate017]

I'm just starting to get into eve and you make the best content by far. I don't ever comment on videos but your deserve it! Keep up the good work!

[@DisownedHero]

:) Im glad you like the videos matey. having people tell me im helping them or just interesting to watch is more than enough to keep me uploading :)

[@ujulspins]

so... how it's going?

[@DeagleJJChannel]

Totally agree about not bringing cargo scanner since I'm an alpha my virus strength and coherence is low and seeing alot of isk in loot makes me nervous and way more disappointed with loss. 🤣🤣🤣

[@grahamdixon1699]

Fair early on; though when you get skills up and get used to the mini game it can be a huge time saver. Time = ISK

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

Always bring a mobile depot with you. If you get into a sticky situation anchor the mobile depot, put the loot in and bookmark then come back in an interceptor to pick it up.

[@kyawzayya3877]

26:15 Astero vibin to the beat. Lol

[@Shamino100]

Just a quick side note when hacking search for the rule of six it will help u a lot

[@fjmerriam]

Cloaking is an Omega skill. So, if you want it, you need to pay.

[@zapszki6977]

True but atm it costs around 1,4 bil isk to go omega. You can easily farm it out with wh explo in 10-15 days 2-3 hours a day. Probably much faster if you're not a newbie like I am.

[@hoggerqt]

Ur my favorite eve KZbinr, you seem to love exploration as much as I do, subbed!

[@aleksastankovic2446]

Seems like i've found new channel to binge!!

[@DisownedHero]

sounds good to me watch away :P

[@keithmyers6435]

Thank you for the video it was a very good instructional video until the end, when ok we got loot but you did not show us how to get out safely. Maybe I'm mistaken but what I saw was a step by step instruction on how to get to null sec and colllect loot, but a just go here and try this to get out...

[@audiblebites553]

Scan out through wormhole space

[@BerraLJ]

I just click everything in the game :) works ok when in HS, but low and null is bit rougher.

[@af1ershock139]

I have no clue if the sites you did with the toxic gas are all the same, but I JUST did that EXACT one last night lol undocked the gate and everything. The place where you warped to for the crates even looks exactly the same. But I doubt it was the same place in space, right? Lol

[@arnislapsa1619]

made my first null-sec runs yesterday. 70mil+

[@theyellowfury]

I mostly do wormholes and found them better than the nullsec systems in my area but there has been a change very recently. I pulled out around 60m per day for the last few days in lowsec wormholes diving up to 3 holes from the lowsec entrance. I should give null another try.

[@calebe1566]

Honestly, I think its more of a luck/chance scenario rather than one being better than the other. I've been in worm space and found 4 pirate named data/relic sites and make it out with 60 mil in an hour, but I've also had times where I chill in worm space, scanning it down, finding nothing, and then having a worm whole close behind me, and then have to take a 20 jump detour back to home. The same thing with null really, you go into a null system and you can find 3 sites per jump, or you can search for 2 hours, find nothing, then get gate camped and get podded immediately.

[@theyellowfury]

@@calebe1566 I just found my way out of wormhole space this minute, 29 jumps home. And I agree with you. Have you noticed an improvement in the number of sites recently? I definitely have.

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

Nullsec exploration sites pay out more or less based on the NPCs in the region. Sansha has the highest drops, the rest are pretty much on par with each other. 250mil isk cans regularly spawn in relic sites in Sansha space. I find it best to use Needlejack filaments every 15 minutes (scanning a few systems in whatever region I end up in) then doing a real exploration run when I eventually end up in Sansha space. Use another filament once you want to leave and enter highsec somewhere thats not Sansha space, the gates leading back to highsec are quite heavily camped. Good luck and fly safe.

[@theyellowfury]

@@OkieDokieSmokie dangit I can't handle the npc guarded sites yet, I don't have the skills needed to fly something that can solo kill all the rats and can fit a covops cloak but thanks for the tips o7

[@grahamdixon1699]

@@theyellowfury something the other guy didn't mention is that the sites aren't guarded by the NPC factions, the loot is just dependent on what the local NPC faction is.

[@burnouttx2415]

Come to Delve. We say hi with bullets, missles, and lasers. No longer able to use filaments in wormholes now also.

[@varanzmaj]

How do you get back from Null Sec? Is there a filament that will "jump" you back to High Sec?

[@ImVeryOriginal]

There are filaments that can get you to the isolated Pochven region (which is NPC nullsec), and then out of Pochven into a nearby lowsec or hisec system. So you can use three filaments to get around: 1. Needlejack into null (make sure it's a Noise type and not Signal!), do your exploring 2. Pochven inbound filament (Cladistic, Border or Home), hide and wait out the 15 minutes timer 3. Pochven outbound filament (Glorification or Proximity) into k-space This is called the "Pochven Express". Otherwise, you have to find your way back through wormholes, as DH says at the end. Sometimes during events (like the Winter Nexus going on right now) you can get temporary filaments that go directly to hisec or lowsec, which simplifies things for a while.

[@elleee2638]

Pls do another HyperNet video, love your channel!

[@DisownedHero]

Next video is a hypernet video :) Glad you like them

[@jacobkallenberger8903]

Do you make carebear videos? I’m still skilling to an orca for my main

[@DisownedHero]

Hay man. Yeah another of my videos are aimed at brand new players and will explain how to get into eve and the different aspects of the game :

[@Seb_T]

You can make a video how to make afk isk with research and copies of Blueprints?

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

There are much more reliable and profitable ways to make ISK, exploration is just the most fun because it comes with a great minigame.

[@yes55504]

Any reason for the warp scrammer?

[@FuaConsternation]

oh freaking cool, you're using needlejacks! yeah, i'm stockpiling those from redeem stuff

[@hamzah.7317]

sorry new to this , how do I get back to High sec after this lol ??

[@dangerstranger4412]

It's null sec so you have a few options. You can just find a route back to High Sec which could be 30+ jumps or you can scan a Worm hole to High or Low which could shorten your trip.

[@khanhao9040]

the sleeper site is much better than relic site if you can do it. newbie just spend 1 month do do limited or standard sleeper site. fly safe !

[@zero_day_xsploit]

Which has more loot killing sleepers in WH or relic in WH

[@coreywuertz715]

Do you have a home area or do you just live where you go?

[@solitude9875]

Can we just all admit that we like Disowned Hero’s videos *before* we actually watch it

[@DisownedHero]

I am awesome XD ha ha Seriously though, thanks matey :) Appreciate the support

[@solitude9875]

@@DisownedHero also Independence is a lvl I site, not lvl III

[@iamaloneinammorpg]

I Play Eve for 2 mouths now, and i come out of wormholes with 100 to 150 mil and Im just an alpha in a Imicus, why don't you use a mobile depo for better and faster scanning and after that refit for data or relic hack, and put a cargo scanner so you know what value cans have before you hack them.

[@DisownedHero]

The scanning isnt the problem tbh. It is very very rare I come across a signature I cant scan down 100% in that ship. Scanning the cans themselfs is something I should do but IDK ive just never really seen the need to I typically just hack everything lol :P

[@leviweyna1124]

is null like super dangerous?

[@AlvinMcManus]

Good thing I'm not a new player. I have an Astero. Fine ship fine ship

[@PMester024]

very lucky with that ghost site, I jumped in this one the other day: Superior Serpentis Covert Research Facility I scanned all cans with T2 scanner (like 12sec), did the first can under like 20 sec, and on my way to a second one rats warped in and blew me up I'm never even going for 2 cans next time, just 1 and out

[@alexcat7034]

damn this run was kinda unlucky, hope next time its better, personaly mine give more ISK faster

[@a1919akelbo]

Short answer: yes Long answer: no

[@firestarterxox69]

Makes no sense to have the D-Scan off screen (monitor) when you're recording a video

[@chrisward5043]

put afterburners in instead of a warp-drive, your dealing with bubbles more.pls let me no if i got this wrong null sec is no joke

[@DisownedHero]

when dealing with bubbles I tend to want to get out of them as fast as possible and burn back to the gate (or just away). Microwarp makes you faster :)

[@chrisward5043]

@@DisownedHero in null, bubbles nock out your abillity to use microwarp drives,so are after burners not better.sorry my english not great.ty for getting back

[@DisownedHero]

@@chrisward5043 How have I gone this far into EVE and never known that??? lol thanks for the heads up :)

[@AndreasRObius]

@@DisownedHero There are different kind of bubbles. Intedrictors (Sabers and such) usualy use bubbles which only prevents warp. Anchored bubbles act the same. However Heavy Interdictors (not sure if this applies to normal Interdicotrs as well) can use a bubble which prevents the use of MWDs. So yes some bubbles can stop ur MWD but most don't. I would as sugested always use an MWD for crashing gates. Null-secer here :P I do relic sites runes in the area I live in about almost every day. Leave the data sites (bad isk).

[@tomsmith48]

Pretty sure MWD still works in bubbles, as do MJDs and of course ABs. MWDing back to a gate through a bubble is a viable tactic. I think you might be thinking about scramblers which do shut down MWDs

[@jcsivelli]

WH most sites are guarded by rats, and you cant know if someone is about to jump on you...

[@BIGSUCCC]

wErmhole

[@Officer_Vinne]

The Wormhole Police are watching you......

[@DisownedHero]

I feel like I need to find these Wormhole police lol

[@Officer_Vinne]

@@DisownedHero Are you confident that we won't find you first? :)

[@DisownedHero]

@@Officer_Vinne Stealth Mode Activated :P

[@DisownedHero]

@@Officer_Vinne honestly that wouldn't be hard. I think I have put our HQ and systems I like to hang around in on a fair number of my videos sooooo yeah, im hiding in plain sighte I know what WH's you like to hang around in aswell. Zkil is a nice tool :P

[@Devildoginvu]

Online explo guides suck and need a huge rework. I cant seem to find any accurate ones.