Dispelling The 11 BIGGEST MISCONCEPTIONS About Guild Wars 2!

There is a whole lot of confusion about Guild Wars 2 since it isn't often in the spotlight these days! This video aims to clear all of that up!
00:00 - Intro
01:51 - 'Guild Wars 2 is a dead game'
03:06 - 'There is no endgame'
06:45 - 'There is no progression or grinding'
09:31 - 'There are no well-defined roles'
11:07 - 'Guild Wars 2 is for casuals only'
12:57 - 'There are no prestige rewards'
15:41 - 'The game is in maintenance mode'
17:51 - 'The game is PvP-oriented'
18:44 - 'Everything is in the cash shop'
25:01 - 'The game is pay to win'
30:07 - 'The game is not an MMO'
31:33 - Outro
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[@MikaaWoo]

After playing LoL for 5 years, I got emotional when I asked for help in map chat bout stuff and 5 players answered me, one whispered me. And 2 mailed me items without me asking. It’s amazing after being bullied everyday in a game like LoL to see a community like this. Proud to be a member.

[@dradamov]

Same. Washed out top laner being junglediffed often ;) now I play scrapper and I couldn't be happier about scratching the itch :)

[@joaopinheiro4396]

THIS i also came from league played it since 2012 quit a few months ago. And about random acts of kindness, once i went to buy the Jackal with my 20g but somehow it was now 30g. I asked the map and turns out it is more expensive if you havent completed the renown heart that day. And then i got 2 mails giving me 10gold, which I denied and proceeded to filling the yellow heart again :)

[@joeh858]

Don't be fooled.

[@tvrdy3]

Welcome bro. Friendships are the reason i stayed in gw2, i just felt the need to become good player and return the favor to new players. :)

[@thodojo8588]

omg as a LoL player about to download guild wars i felt this

[@twitchdailies3982]

gw 2 was the game i thought i would never like, but after 1 day of trying it out, it's just fits 100% what u want from a mmo. hard to explain it just feels better.

[@ayatheflat7966]

Believe me, i've heard this more times then i would expect, and i feel the same way too.

[@markezc7932]

Its criminal how other mmo players talk about the game. As a wow fanboy of many years I understand loving a game you invest YEARS into and don't wanna hear "this other things great!" I guess that's why wow & ff14 fans trash talk gw2 so much, but the fact is gw2 kinda dose alot of stuff better then both and in 2021 might just be the best mmo on the market.

[@GayLPer]

@@markezc7932 i don't see a lot of ff14 players bashing gw2, mostly just bashing wow. Then again I don't use novice chat so that's probably where it is.

[@johnwong5317]

I only do dailies now to wait for expansion, but it is a place where I come to enjoy and recover by sanity and avoid toxic from other games...

[@fredxu99]

@@GayLPer This tbh. There's a lot of co-mingling between FF14 and GW2 players honestly, I've met a lot of players in FF14 in the past few years who were either are playing GW2 on the side or migrated over due to the perception that the game was on a backburner (I myself being one of them). I think it's partly because neither game demands a severe time sink for vertical progression, unlike WoW or Black Desert. You can cap out pretty rapidly on vertical progression in FF14 due to weekly limits, and then the rest of the time you can spend however you like, including grinding other activities in the game or simply playing other games, while GW2 has purely horizontal progression so it's much more chill.

[@orangeglow57Official]

I've never had a negative experience in GW2. But one thing that will always remind me that it has one of the best communities out there, was when I purchased a guild hall expedition. None of my friends play it, and I dont really have any in-game, so actually claiming the guild hall was virtually impossible for me to do solo. I was a little embarrased that I bought a guild hall even though I had no active players in my guild so it took me a long time to ask for help. As soon as I did, the leader of a large guild whispered me and asked what time I was avaliable, and shortly after we had arranged a time for myself and a group of his own guild members to claim it. We got it on our first try and everyone was wonderful to play with. I tipped them afterwards even though they never asked for any kind of compensation, and its stuck with me ever since that all these random people would take time out of their day to help someone that they might never even see again, just because they wanted to.

[@FirstIsa]

Mostly the same. I was in a larger guild that was super helpful (running raids and tutorials for new members) and two friends joined. I started a separate guild and as soon as I mentioned it my first guild had members that jumped in and donated the gold and asked if we needed help winning the raid to unlock our guild hall. no "how dare you have your own guild" or any bs like that and at this point both guilds will do events and runs together.

[@wafflingmean4477]

"the reports of GW2's death of have been greatly exaggerated" I believe you meant to say "The rumours of GW2's immortality have been drastically... *understated* "

[@Dirili]

Praise Joko.

[@seaofbloodredroses9940]

PRAISE JOKO!!! I was exceedingly disappointed he didn't say this.

[@cauhscrymdorn2132]

Braised Joko!

[@UndercoverGodzilla]

Praise Joko!

[@myth6863]

PRAISE JOKO!

[@Setnja92]

Guild Wars 2 is the mmo, where you can come back after year and you still feels like you are coming home. Quality goes up, story goes on, people aren't toxic (only a bit in pvp) and you will find something to do at least for few months again. Just details like character birth days rewards are nice touch.

[@fwabble]

I absolutely adore GW1 and 2 but unless it comes to console/seriesX/ps5 ..... I won't be playing. I love both GW and ESO, I play exclusively ESO because it's perfect on Series X.

[@Nitidus]

​@@fwabbleThat's never, ever going to happen. But what I think is feasible from cost-effectiveness point of view is controller support for PC. I'm sure it's already possible through manual button mapping and integrating this into the game itself can't be hard. GW2 runs on any sort of vegetable PC nowadays so those few who REALLY want a console style experience can plug their laptop into their PC and that's close enough.

[@romann921]

The marketing of the game is pretty much non existent. This is why people haven't heard about the game, and if they have they think its dead because they've stopped hearing about it years ago.

[@AntonMochalin]

Sites like MassivelyOP write about GW2 all the time and it's on most "best MMORPGs to play now" lists I've ever seen on KZbin and even IGN or PC Gamer post news about GW2 from time to time so at least PR guys at ANet do some promotion. And to think of it have I ever seen a banner ad on Internet for WoW Classic (or vanilla) for example? As far as I remember I haven't.

[@xecor4450]

@@AntonMochalin its on those list cause its actually at those positions. Anet dont do shit to be there.

[@oleksiikartamyshev3919]

true

[@SacredDaturana]

Dead silence from Anet honestly might be better than their early attempts at marketing GW2. Those horribly edgy "we're not like those other MMOs, we're COOL" ads from GW2's early days still make me cringe with second-hand embarrassment.

[@Goremize]

Need more word of mouth, btw all I see on New world comments is GW2 and FF14, so GW2 is out there a lot! which is great, lot of people are talking about it!

[@NoxiousWhat]

Person with 3k hours logged in primarily doing Fractals & Raids: "wow this game has no content & no endgame, what the fuck are new players supposed to do? also it's way too easy" Person with 3k hours spent just running around & doing meta events, exploring, collecting: "im not sure i can clear T3 fractals but let's try? i can heal if it helps" My experience with the game is that for every person that can farm T4/CM dailies, there are 5000 that still struggle to time dodges properly and shouldn't be using Zerker gear. The game is far from easy; we've just played its hard content too much.

[@Drascylla]

Bare in mind that dodging as an integral game mechanic is heavily reliant on player latency and no amount of timing on the players behalf will mean dick, its just the sad reality of MMO gaming and unless you live in one of the two dominant countries where those types of games are made like America or China your totally screwed because you will always be in access of 200+ms.

[@eestaga9318]

@@Drascylla EU OMEGALUL QUESTION MARK

[@Drascylla]

@@eestaga9318 You know there are countries outside EU and NA right ? I also mentioned China as a generalization with respect to MMO's outrightly and not just specifically GW2 thus your not making any constructive point here with your response other than to laugh at something you obviously don't understand.

[@Ultraelectromagnetic]

​@@Drascylla I feel this as a SEA player lmao my ping is average 250 which is completely fine in most PvE but can be an absolute nightmare in WvW. When it comes to high-skill group fights, I just can't dodge past AoE bombs consistently as I tend to get hit before seeing the damage circles.

[@Drascylla]

@@Ultraelectromagnetic Exactly! I to am a SEA player and with GW2 I average 300ms minimum, thus I guess my underlying point from my original comment is that simply put skilled play in terms of timely dodges and the likes are meaningless to players like us because of those horrendous levels of latency and this is primarily in response to Noxious comment quoted here "My experience with the game is that for every person that can farm T4/CM dailies, there are 5000 that still struggle to time dodges properly and shouldn't be using Zerker gear. The game is far from easy; we've just played its hard content too much"

[@Gamearkdotcom]

I purchased the game at released but didn't play much. Recently I started playing and omg it's one of the best MMORPG out there.

[@oleksiikartamyshev3919]

same here, glad to back and having a blast!

[@Jembaited]

Same here, but I struggled to "re-enter" the game so I basically started from scratch with a new character. I really hope that after reaching level 80 the content will be more accessible than when I played in the past. Back in the day it did not feel welcoming to start endgame content due to too high expections of skill, which is not really a too big problem for me, but rather the high bar for having the right/perfect gear. How is that today? I was never really sure what to do or where to start. Fractals, Raids, Dungeons, WvW, PvP, it all seems relevant, but I do not feel like committing to one of those. A good mix keeps up the fun of the game for me.

[@oleksiikartamyshev3919]

@@Jembaited so I give you one hella cool advice I think. First of start path of fire and get mounts, its on a new level and much better afterwards(Hot can be explored much faster). Then go lvl 80 and elite specialization, cuz you will need it and it can change gameplay drastically. Then farm some gold and go to market and buy exotic gear for your build(please be smart and filter gear by stats that you need then by price and pick cheapest with stats similar to high priced ones, saves you tonn of gold) then you are ready to anything. Exotic, ascended\legendary diff in stats for 5% for weapon, jew, and armor so total 15% power in legendary and ascended comapared to exotic. Then just do what you want, go explore and farm cooler gear or mounts or story or gold or pvp\wvw. Have fun explore the game, after those steps you will have much less struggle!

[@Jembaited]

@@oleksiikartamyshev3919 thank you for taking the time to write this, I really appreciate it and will definitely go for your advice. Have a great day!

[@LM43243]

I just realized the same about 3 weeks ago, 200h in since and a griffon richer lol.

[@michagruzewski5592]

Playing other MMO's made me realise how much i love Guild Wars 2 just for not punching me in the Shlong for trying to have fun.

[@vee1766]

If your idea of fun is to watch your character auto-play for dozens of hours then i feel kinda bad for you.

[@michagruzewski5592]

@@vee1766 Quite the opposite my dear random internet pearson who unknowingly misunderstood my unporpousefully ambigious comment.

[@joshaqy]

HoT mobs say hi

[@fes4861]

@@joshaqy the tendrils….

[@secretname2670]

@@vee1766 have thine hands ever played the fine song of a warrior called "hulk uses chainsaw"? And I promise thee, every class plays just as finely. You probably messed GW up with RSL

[@caffeinette]

One additional note regarding the Black Lion Chests: there is something of a mercy system in place. You get BL statuettes with every chest. Save up enough and you can eventually trade them to a BL merchant for the item from the chests you want when it comes up in the rotation. It still sucks but not as bad as most other lootbox systems.

[@Thakrulll]

Yeah. The keys can be farmed and they are rewarded in the story. You can even get them from random foes in the open world. So just save up the keys for when you really want something from the chests. But you must also be ready for the possibility that even if you have 30 keys you might not get that rare thing you had your eyes on. Then you have to wait a couple months for it to show up at the statuette vendor.

[@guardiangibbs2663]

Also save your wardrobe unlocks till you get most of the skins and dyes available in game.

[@azammunir4837]

Mostly skin. So it's not punishing for casual player

[@Nitidus]

​@@ThakrulllThe keys cannot be farmed in an adequate way, one per week and having to delete the character afterwards is stupid. 30 keys aren't even close to being enough to get ANY rare Black Lion Chest drop, never mind getting a specific one. Look at people opening hundreds of chests for thousands of dollars and how many actually rare drops they get. It's a scam.

[@trenchcoatkendo]

⁠@@Nitidusroundbreaking take with “lootboxes are a scam” hard to believe anyone could be so aware that random chance might not yield the 1 thing you’re looking for. Am I really supposed to have sympathy for someone who bought 100s of lootboxes? It’s called a rare drop for a reason. The point being made here is that at the least there is a statuette shop that you can use a guranteed chest drop to buy something you want if you don’t get it. Among every other lootbox system that is non existent. Maybe when you get out of the first grade you’ll find something else to whine about

[@gianc2226]

I've just started playing this game and i love the fact that you are free to choose if you want to give up your life for it or not, and you can fully enjoy the game both ways! It has the potential to appeal to so many different people and you can clearly see it by the number of players you find at any time. Plus the community has been great so far. I truly believe it is a fantastic game and this is demonstrated by the fact that it is very well populated without having great marketing exposure: the game markets itself.

[@evaundele123]

I completely agree! I play the game occasionally and honestly just don't WANT to spend more time using my computer. But every time I play GW2, it's always fun and I don't feel like I'm falling behind, also, my guild still supports me after all these years of just playing once a month or so. It's a great community, it's fun for people like me. I mean, I've played GW1 as well and got GW2 immediately after its release, but I just don't spend much time on gaming in general, but I still thoroughly enjoy it every time I get to play it.

[@mebrandonb]

To this day I can't believe how many people refuse to try gw2. It's hands down the best feeling combat mmo I've ever experienced. FF14 has a longstanding franchise behind it so it makes sense that it is so popular, but I think more people that would like a game that is a better middle ground between that and WoW would love gw2. It's so good, can't wait for the new expansion!

[@JesusmagPonys]

A friend of mine thinks neverwinter is a masterpiece of mmo , and calls gw2 trash besides never informing himself about the game. Yes hes a stubborn son of a bitch

[@Justacheese]

@@JesusmagPonys I say let him be stubborn. And I don't mean this in a malicious way either. I could be considered stubborn, because I don't want to have go at final fantasy 14. A friend of mine told some stuff about how the game just wasn't worth it for them, so now I'm put off the game. In other words I could be counted as one of those stubborn players. Also, one odd thing I noticed is that being stubborn can actually be enjoyable/fun. As odd as that sounds. In fact I still have a sense of pride over my continued boycot over EA games. Haven't bought anything off them in years. However, I understand if you are getting sick of your friend constantly trashing guild wars 2 in front of you. I feel like its fair to ask him to tone down his negative statements about the game. At least when you are around.

[@archiekins901]

I feel this. I have a lot of friends who are longtime WoW players that stopped playing recently due to their drama and lack of good content in Shadowlands. I tried FFXIV with one, and it just seemed so... basic. No depth to the jobs, gameplay was very lackluster. And yet, no matter how much I tell them how good of a game GW2 is, they just wanna believe it's trash without actually trying it out. Anet needs to push their marketing for EoD, that's def been a shortcoming of theirs.

[@ROCKNROLL947]

Totally agree, FF14 is massivley played because of brand recognition, but as a MMO is really mediocre.

[@Keeperoffyre]

been trying to get some WoW players to come join me in GW2, but they are either content with going down the burning ship, or they prefer FFIV (not to blame them, FFIV is a pretty cool game...i just can't afford the monthly sub). hell, i consider it an accomplishment that my dad started playing GW2. it's not all the time, but boy does he love engineer! (as i knew he would!)

[@Poroner]

I think you skipped over probably the most important part about the "not an mmo" is that there is no server gating. Barring continents, whichever servers you join you are always going to play with your friends. Something the vast majority of mmo's are still struggling with today. For me games that lock you into one server are not really mmo's since there is nothing massive about them.

[@Palomitero666]

Once yo reach max level, all the game becomes end game. It can be as casual or hard core as you want. Amazing game.

[@SoundBubble]

I've only started actively playing about a week or two ago and I'm honestly loving it. Some of these preconceptions and general lack of advertising made it hard for me to pick it up again. But I'm very glad I did. Exploration and world bosses have always been one of my favourite parts in MMOs and GW2 nails that part. I seriously hope they start advertising more/better with the coming expansion because I think that GW2 deserves a much better treatment in that area.

[@markrombla7102]

same for me. started some days ago. my accoutn was created 2013, but I remember other games kept me away in that time. today I realized, this game has everything I am looking for.I like to grind and farm, many achievements, working marketsystem, unique items/skins you can earn by playing, not paying and much more I didn't figure out now :). Active playerbase rising, upcoming add-on will bring players back,too and it is announced on steam ( which will bring a lot new players). I only met helpful players, explaining me smth when I got stuck.

[@FriedFx]

MightTeapot, I heard you saying in a stream that if you play the game for the rewards then you truly don't like the game. I play GW2 because of the combat loop, environments, and cool events. Rewards are 2nd for me. Slowly working towards my 3rd legendary and working on PvP legendary trinket and backpiece. SOOO MUCH TO DO. It's crazy and I love it. I recently fell in love with PvP after not playing it since 2015. Been a player since beta (took a break here and there) and also played GW1. WvW is next on my list to dive deep into... Guardian is my main for PvE and fractals. DPS and healbrand builds.

[@MightyTeapot]

I love to see it

[@Jaigarful]

I've said something like this before, and its easy to say that the reward for doing an activity in a game should be intrinsic, but that's easier said than done. Its nearly impossible in an MMO due to how content works, and even in sandbox MMOs like EVE Online, people create extrinsic rewards to things like PvP via killboards. It actually often a combination of the two. Combat feels smooth and it feeling great to properly execute an opener in a fight, or dodge an ability, etc. are examples of intrinsic rewards. But people need reasons to go through the effort of organizing players, and some people really do need that carrot on a stick to motivate them. Its why some people can enjoy playing Poker with 0 stakes while others need something to be on the line.

[@TNTspaz]

As a basically full time minion master. Playing groups is for chumps. I love when new players come over and think I'm like an entire group running around lmao

[@brenobarbosa3489]

Gw2 best mmo, started January this year and today I'm making my first legendary pieces, I have 1k+ hours and it's the best game I've played in my life (coming out of steam where I have 500+ games and 5k plus hours there)

[@ok_listen]

I swear this man has such aggressive-positive energy and i love it, plus its one of the reasons i came back to the game a few months ago. Keep up the great work!

[@MightyTeapot]

e n e r g y

[@ok_listen]

@@MightyTeapot Y E S

[@nivi3418]

Great video, I really hope that Gw2 gets more exposure with the expac. Has so much potential.

[@Salamandr0]

Yes! I hope that ANet starts focusing more on improving their advertising practices and get the game out there more.

[@touchlebutt3807]

I think you did a great job with this video. I was expecting it to be good, but this surpasses those expectations. Ive always had a hard time explaining the idea of p2w in gw2, but I think how you have formatted it is exceptional.

[@AlwaysForwardRunning]

Should be mentioned that every "skin", wether it be for weapon, armor or mounts. Can be dyed with an insane amount of different dyes, you get from in-game

[@simonjay9758]

Apart from the weapons?

[@Thakrulll]

@@simonjay9758 You can't dye weapons due to some engine/coding limitations. But they have started releasing more and more weapon variants. Like in wow when you can get the same gearset skin but in different colors and/or with more flame effects depending on what difficulty you do the raids/dungeons on. They have the same in Guild Wars 2 with Fractals, WvW and story weapons for example.

[@sleepjimmy9836]

I love the game and GW2 community. They are so kind and you will see “thankyou” word everywhere you go.

[@bluekitsvne]

I remember my first time playing [I'm 4 years in deep lol] and i was confused as to why people were thanking others, and that it was weird to see people so helpful! But I love it and especially encourage rezzing in my squads too.

[@CyanWyrmie]

Videos like these really point out how many of the gw2 exclusive features I've taken for granted as standard mmo features. Like does wow and ff really not have collections, achievements and world bosses?

[@Bukac987]

wow has these things

[@Architechtus]

FF has achievements, and a very tiny amount of "collections", but definitely no world bosses that's the same scale as GW2. Most maps are completely dead 1-2 months, so even if they have riveting content, you won't find many players to play them after initial release.

[@Renemu]

"The base difficutly of the story is so easy that some of it absolutely unfaillable" good to know considering that once I started the very 1st exp I went from feeling strong to wet tissue paper and I still do in all the expansion zones.... >.>

[@guardiangibbs2663]

The expansions are definitely harder. He kinda glosses over that big time. A new player isn't likely to beat the last HoT mission without a repair canister or spare set of gear in their inventory.

[@dyegsitsw954]

@@guardiangibbs2663 I needed help my first time on the last HoT mission. Now I'm the help that clutches while the other new players down or die. It's a learning curve that gets easily overcome once one begins to understand raids or strikes.

[@Sunari]

I feel that lol I think each time I hardcore had my butt kicked I took a break from the expansion map in HoT, then when I was less salty I made a new plan and retackled it XD Getting progress in the masteries also helped so things like those stupid invisible enemies could still be hit and getting rid of chak goop also helped my life expectancy. I did appreciate though that each unlocked mastery seemed to further help me unlock more points for 'em as time went on.

[@maniacal1870]

The key is to not roll engineer, I've found.

[@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams]

As a long time player the learning curve is probably my biggest criticism since it goes from so forgiving that people don't learn basic mechanics like dodging and setting up a good build, to expecting those things and punishing those who don't without very clear tutorialization in-between. I was pleasantly surprised to see they finally implemented more clear instructions and tutorials in End of Dragons. There also seems to be more of a push toward using the same consistent mechanics rather than reinventing the wheel as often as the rest of the game has. My recommendation for anyone struggling is to ask for help in a starter map or put up a message in lfg. If you're trying to learn from scratch in endgame content, people who just want to farm and not teach may be pretty impatient with you. There are however tons of veteran players eager to help people and hold your hand through the learning curve.

[@ffsake1361]

Iv played a fair few MMOs. I swear about 90% of the ones Iv played Iv heard "GaMe Is DeAd" in chat atleast once. While in the middle of a bustling city hub to XD. IDK, my idea of a dead game is one were the servers have been shut down (shrug). GW2 happens to be on of the more active MMOs Iv played. It even 'felt' more active than WoW when I played a few years ago, as an example. I always see fair few people running around on every map in GW2. WoWs areas felt mostly empty and it was a pleasant surprise to see someone around. (May also have been the server I was on to). Also GW2s community is by far one of least toxic I have come across. I think GW2 is one of the more underestimated/underrated MMOs Iv played and in my opinion arguably the best mount system Iv come across.

[@ZianaSue]

I feel the same way, every once in a while I go back to WoW and I rarely see other players outside the city hubs, raids, or dungeons. When I first played WoW over 10+ years ago, people were everywhere, but now I rarely see anyone actually engaging with the various map contents. Need help with a fight, well unless you have guildies or friends online then you're on your own cuz there's no one around in your time of need. With GW2 other players can be found everywhere at any given time you'll see people running around doing their story, hunting down hero points, world bosses, hearts, vistas, mastery points, conquering jump puzzles, and mini-dungeons. Someone other than your own character is always nearby. Need a rez? No worries another player is nearby to help you out. Got a particularly tough veteran monster to take down? Oh, look there's a player over there ask in chat and help you shall receive. For a supposedly "dead" game there's a lot of people everywhere. Unlike WoW that is supposedly an "alive" game where you can't find anyone unless you go into town. I have come across a situation many time of ask for help in WoW and get roasted for needing help. Also, I think the buy the game (WoW, Elder Scrolls, etc.) and then have to pay a second time in order to play the game you just bought is highway robbery.

[@Arrow333]

I think in other MMOs, and especially WoW, the focus on raids, dungeons and maybe PvP as sole endgame content leads to making the open world so irrelevant that you barely see anyone having finished the questing going there. And I don't get that design choice, as there are beutiful open world areas in these games as well. But maybe this also has to do with vertical vs. horizontal progression, because once you progress further vertically (rise level cap for new expansion) the older maps still get irrelevant and open world content designed for groups of players become unbeatable alone. So Anet has made some good design choices so that the open world and therefore the game feels very alive. I really don't know where the "dead game" originates from. All I can assume is either because of some phases of content draught or because the one time Anet had some massive lay offs.

[@BloodshedRomance]

Wow starter areas were always dead whenever i played it a long time ago.. literal ghost towns… Theres always people in queensdale and the other starter areas in gw2… always…

[@JoaoMarcos-wb7bq]

The game keeps all maps alive. There is always events/achievs/collections occuring on all maps.

[@kuronaialtani]

I’d never even considered playing GW2 until twitch prime decided “psst bro you want a 50% off coupon on the standard edition plus a level 80 boost? Yeah I thought you did” and so here I am Edit: no I haven’t used the boost, it’s just sitting in my inventory until I’m confident to use it, I’m grateful for the ability to “test run” the boosted character before accepting it entirely For what little I’ve played I’m definitely enjoying it, but I know I’ve barely scratched the surface considering how many tabs upon tabs of things there are So this was a good video to see for a newcomer like me

[@Thakrulll]

It is good that you are saving the boost as it is really is not meant for your first character. You level fast enough as it is. You can do 1-80 in a couple of days. And there is really no reason to rush it. Unless the only thing you want to do is farm meta events or play some raids. But even then, that is not a good reason to skip to 80. The content will be there when you reach 80. Some people give the advise to play it like Skyrim. Unlock new skills, Test every weapon you can, explore the world and my favorite thing. Listen to all NPC dialog. They will talk about the world or events that are happening in the zone. And often you will hear if a dynamic event is about to start. Even long before the orange event marker shows up on the map. I really love the open world voice acting in this game :D

[@kuronaialtani]

@@Thakrulll oh I’ve been absolutely in love with the fact that I can change my skills with a different weapon, coming off of FFXIV (as a thing to do until Endwalker) where the class is tied to a single weapon “type” And yeah I’ve been mostly messing around with the character creator and the various races to see what kind of “stories” are available, which having a voiced MC is really cool, like I’m living out a story that’s already happened

[@bosunbones.8815]

I.must have started a few weeks before you. Now I did boost... but only to get the mount. I'm actually playing non-boosted characters more frequently to just explore and learn the game. :)

[@costanick]

Thanks for championing the exposure of our game and community Mighty! On another note, grabbed the X-Pac with your link. Hope it worked, didn't see any notification so I did it a second time to be sure o clicked the right link :)

[@eleosiluvatar7828]

I've been playing New World, but I keep thinking about GW2. So far in about 4 hours of New World's starter zone, I got an aggro train of wolves dumped on me, I had another player jump in and skin an animal I just killed before I could skin it, and I've had to compete over resource nodes (iron). Those incidents and the horrid cesspool that New World global chat really make me want to be in Tyria. And the names selections also tell you a lot about the player base.

[@GoogleSpiesTooMuch]

Gw2 is easy mode if you want to be mediocre and actually pretty hard if you actually want to be good. And compared to WoW as that's what i played before, Gw2 requires more skill because you actually need to pay attention.

[@Jaigarful]

Its one of the reasons why I hate whats happened to WoW over the years with add ons. They just do too much. You spend more time watching timers for boss abilties, having Weak Auras still icons over people's heads to tell them where they need to go and when, its just a huge mess.

[@user-xo2og8kv1o]

really? i cant speak for wow, but i play gw2 since release and all ive been doing these days is clearing raids, fracs and all their cms. i think gw2 has a pretty high barrier to overcome bc of the combat system, but after that... its just easy and boring. maybe i played it too much, but i wouldnt say gw2 requires a ton of skill to be good at. i think most ppl who say gw2 is hard, are ppl who still didnt overcome that somehwat steep learning curve that gw2 has. after that its just kind braindead.

[@momintim]

@@user-xo2og8kv1o Then try PvP or WvW can sometimes help the game not be boring as you say.

[@Vidiri]

@@user-xo2og8kv1o It's not that you've played too much, it's that you are looking to get too little out of the game vs all that it offers. If you only play 2-3 types of content are you surprised that those categories are seeming stale? Why don't you try out other game modes like PvP or WvW? You could also engage in the more social aspects of the MMO through open world events and Guilds? Play around in open world with newer players, or go achievement hunting for certain rewards that seem pretty neat? Honestly the game offers a lot more than what you seem to have exclusively focused on based on what you're saying. Then again I could be totally misreading what you're saying so correct me if I'm wrong.

[@user-xo2og8kv1o]

@@Vidiri i did try pvp, wvw and open world event farms. they are just bad... like, really fucking bad. might help to fall asleep at night tho, so thats one positive.

[@Artinusxxi]

I just started 2 weeks ago. I’ve never played GW2 before. I’m a veteran of Wow playing off and on since vanilla 2005, hardcore raider back then. I’ve played ff14 off and on for about 3 years. I main a reaper and do some savage content. That being said. I play berserker in GW2. Warrior felt like, well… a warrior. Having a great sword is exactly what I wanted. I’ve enjoyed the mounts not all just being skins, but actual functionality. All the different mounts have different physics you feel when riding, and that is just so cool. I’ve done some fractals - really love how the actual “instance” as I’ll call it is a giant puzzle. Unlike the before mentioned MMO’s where the dungeons are linear, trash pull, trash pull,boss,trash pull, trash pull,boss. GW2 really added something amazing by making puzzles inside the fractal. So fun to solve. Last night I did my first hero train in HoT. It was a lot of fun running through each map with 40 people on all different kind of mounts, portalling all around for us newbs, hopping in people’s 2 seated turtle mounts to keep up, and just obliterating some of the elites in each zone. It actually reminded me of chest runs in New World, which early on was some fun content. All and all, I really enjoy the game so far. World bosses spawning in my newb zone when I was level 12, and me being able to help although I died 5-6 times, but still got loot was a massive hook for me in this game.

[@ttnszid5761]

I've been only playing pvp and WvW for the last few years, just this month I started playing the pve story and I'm in love with it and its given me so much more to do

[@JosephSaintClair]

My fave mmorpg by far. Took me ages to realise this. Having levelled without boosting or anything and having multiple L80s as a casual-ish player. The content is there. It’s fun. No need to gem-shop anything at all. It’s different to other mmorpg formats. Where I feel the game shines most is being part of an active community focused guild. I feel you’ll learn a lot about the game and have more fun than most other mmorpgs can offer. I feel that you can’t out level or out gear something and you always get rewards of some sort for whatever you do. This is huge. Especially when composited with so much of what you do on one character being available or unlocked on other characters too.

[@shogenx]

guild wars 2 is the only game ive consistently played and come back to everytime , its the one mmo that offers so much more then just the mmo experience

[@Vidiri]

And unlike a lot of other MMOs that rely on vertical progression, I don't feel intimidated about coming back to GW2. Sure there will be a lot to learn about the new content, but all the old content I loved before is still well populated and usually just as difficult/rewarding as I remember. Don't even feel a need to play "catch up" after a break.

[@shogenx]

@@Vidiri aye

[@OniZai]

"There is no grinding" *looks at my skyscale progression* To be fair tho there is so much stuff I tend to get distracted lol

[@thenerdbeast7375]

After Blizzard and WoW have maliciously put me through the wringer many times trying to squeeze a few more pennies out of me, I will never EVER complain about GW2's gem store. The prices are fair and Anet isn't holding my account hostage with a sub fee _just to play the game._ After finally burning the bridge with WoW recently I tallied up how much they've gotten from me over the years from expansions and sub fees to character transfers, race changes, etc and they have milked me for over $3,500 I am NEVER going to get back and that doesn't even include the cash shop like mounts and pets because any I had ever obtained were gifts. GW2 may have its own version of the cash shop but it will never bleed you like WoW did especially if you have self control to not frivolously spend. You might buy a couple mount skins, some dye, a glider or two, etc but that is all perfectly reasonable.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

I’m being gated by mystic coins and clovers atm which is a way gw2 tries to get cash out of players but it’s definitely optional. Gw2 would have done better with a similar styled pay system to eso IMO. It’s not bad in gw2 but I prefer to receive awards after completing achievements, not after paying for materials and crafting it.

[@lizajansone7877]

​@@monalisa-bs4zs ESO optional sub system is a really neat addition to flexibility how can you be about game DLCs.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

@@lizajansone7877 they have a fairly safe way to pay for dlc’s via gold on discord’s as well now which I got into a position to do after about 2nyears. Pity a lot of other things about eso deter me from playing more.

[@lunerlilly]

@@monalisa-bs4zs you can get mystic clovers and coins in various ways. :) make sure to check the wiki for information. You could also do daily fractals (zero agony runs basically.)) for 5g a day , ontop of you three regular dailies for 2g a day. Mystic coins go for like 2.5 on the market currently. So you could buy 1 a day and still make a profit. :) hope that helps.

[@monalisa-bs4zs]

@@lunerlilly I do everything possible for mystic clovers except gamble and throw cash at the game and there is not enough.

[@Someone-dl8qx]

"There is no grinding" killed me... Just the collections bruh.... The jumping puzzles bruh... The legendaries bruh!!!!!!!

[@Ounouh]

I think the "no grinding" refers to some awesomely unique gear with extra rare stats or leveling to max level. There's insane amount of grinding if you do all the achievements and try to collect all the skins.

[@Thakrulll]

But those things are not grinding O.o You do the things and you get the thing. That is just playing the content. Grinding is when you are playing the same content 20-50 times in hopes that a legendary upgrade component drops so you can upgrade your gear and be allowed in raids...

[@Nokterian]

As a WoW veteran my self for 17 years, i bought the game and every expansion every since but didn't touch it that much. Like i made a class went into the game got to level 2 and just stopped, idk why i did that but my mind was still on a WoW tunnel vision for so long. After what we see now happening at blizzard itself and the game for me it was enough i wanted to try other mmo's for once and stopped my sub with all the shit we saw at blizzard the game isn't fun anymore. So yeah i'm currently in a much happier state than i was before! Also the community is very welcoming in game as well!

[@ghostapi874]

Welcome to the community. :)

[@Nokterian]

@@ghostapi874 Thank you!! :D

[@QuentinBrutus]

why do I read the same comment over and over ist this the same guy?

[@valkyrie3929]

Welcome on your new home bro

[@reqq47]

31:40 Man, I had totally forgot that message! Great stuff! Nuanced and fair dissection, great video as always!

[@navaneethan8597]

A Fluid combat system,amazing lore,Fashion wars,jumping puzzles, ability to convert in-game gold to gems,Palawa Joko and not to mention the collections and legendaries speaks volumes about GW2 as a great game with so much things to do!

[@thomasdean9744]

Praise Joko!

[@BrorUszasty]

I'm not the biggest fan of your streams, but I enjoy all your videos of this format, great explanation and clarification of gw2 state, great video overall

[@sleepypotato123]

The last three points were the funniest misconception of this game that I have ever seen lmao

[@NCvicsfriend]

And don't forget that Black Lion keys can be somewhat easily gained by completing maps and playing the main storyline and sometimes even through drops. These give you Black Lion Stattuettes that you can use to unlock many of the Gemstore-only skins...

[@idrum2loud]

I started this recently after trying to find a MMO to get into. I played and played until finally.....I remembered this gem. I am so glad to be back. This is the best MMO on the market for me!

[@kahnjugaming]

GW2 is highly underrated. I admit quitting 2 years in, only to come back on the 6th year of the game though. Back then, there was just something that was missing, and a big portion of the player population shared the same sentiment. I was surprised that it felt completely different when I came back. Now, 9 years in, a lot of changes have happened, and it's now more enjoyable than ever. I do, however, feel like the game can be confused as to what it really wants to be. It can be all over the place at times, a bit chaotic (I do like the underlying chaos though). I guess they want to appeal to a big audience, and they want the game to market itself (We all know how terrible they marketed this game). But, best believe that this is such a valuable game with limitless possibilities. And what makes it better is the fact that it's sooooo easy to get into. I highly recommend GW2 to everyone. It really is a gem. Nevermind the shitty advertising. Just play it already!

[@hairypotter5402]

base gw2 was missing a lot of stuff, yeah. it was the best experience getting to max level i ever had in any mmo, but endgame didnt have much to do. there was little reason to go to most maps after clearing them. few achievements to grind. farming gold through orr meta trains, dungeons or fractals was boring af. fractals were so basic back then... and even if you grinded gold, there was not much you could buy with it. like... bag/bank slots and legendaries. it felt like there was no purpose playing the game. this started to change with the addition of dry tops and got better and better after HoT launched. now the stuff that we can do is >>>> the time we have. the best thing is, that old content doesnt become useless. in most mmos you farm for better and better gear, so all old dungeons/raids become a joke. if only anet learned proper advertising. this game could be huge.

[@kahnjugaming]

@@hairypotter5402 I agree. This is one of the rare cases wherein I admit something needs proper advertising. The game desperately needs one. It's such a shame it doesn't get the recognition it deserves.

[@gruntid2762]

This is a very well made and helpful video, especially for someone who hasn't played the game since pre-HoT.

[@itsjustmeBryan]

I recently came back to GW2 and surprised that were are quiet a lot of new players playing in the starting zones which was surprising to see for an old game that doesn't get talked about alot but also really nice to see.

[@Fredtheevil]

i will say that when u hit level 80 (and you have done the basic pve in expansions) it does feel like a fractals or nothing since legendaries arent that obvious how to get and raids seem like a jump. Even in fractals ive never been sure when i need agony resistance or how much and i know i could google this but it puts me off. After discovering more about the achievement system only now do i realise there are other things you can do but i think gw2 is the least user friendly mmo at end game and loses a lot of people there. Saying that i love the game! I love the living story especially season 4 and heart of thorns stuff and getting the griffon and skyscale will be an experience that feels very special to me just wish things were a bit more obvious

[@imamountainheadtoo]

Totally agree!

[@irispounsberry7917]

Very thorough video, good stuff!

[@EmirKilicaslan]

Whoever said "no progression, no grinding" has no idea about Vision. lmao

[@beanstheclown]

As someone working toward full legendary gear so I don't have to worry about buying all new gear every time the meta changes....yeah, the grind is real.

[@heyfell4301]

The real endgame in Gw2 is becoming an expert at jumping puzzles.

[@Gruggo]

This is great video, I got a Level 80 Elementalist back in feirst year of release, and did some world PvE endgame stuff, but having been away for quite some time, I just got a new Ranger to level 40 after about a month of playing, and really getting back into it.

[@venompaco]

360p gamers

[@skorgex9118]

while this is validating for current Gw2 players - people are stuck in their ways. They want antiquated MMO systems similar to WoW. This is why FF14 is the current trend. Its WoW with catgirls. GW2 is built different and its a game people have to discover on their own. They want to be guided and follow a treadmill. People complain about raids and gear grind, but they're addicted to it because its simple and linear progression. They don't understand that GW2 is as fun as you make it.

[@valhatv8505]

"FF XIV is WoW with catgirls?" you're insane if you think that lol.

[@skorgex9118]

@@valhatv8505 relax brother. It's a innocent joke

[@EpsilonKnight2]

I feel this intensely. I see other people complain about no progression or no "prestige" for doing different content in the game but then I look at WoW where the only thing people talk about is raids or dungeons for PvE and zero serious mention of PvP. Virtually 90% of the open content in WoW is completely ignored because it's so old and dry in execution. Countless quests of just killing 15 bandits etc. with static NPCs and completely empty zones come to mind. FF14 has some of the same issues but just juiced on pain killers because of modern polish.

[@insertname6143]

For the gem store skins: you can get them in the game, I have gotten some through random drops of keys and black lion chest where I got a guarantied wardrobe unlock.

[@hunterdixon1694]

You structured this video very well! Nice work

[@warchant59]

GW2 is definitely one of the best mmos of all time. Amazing variety, amazing mechanics, amazing art and much more!

[@Queen-dl5ju]

the game is still revolutionary till this day.. the dynamic open world.. the hearts, the platforming jumping puzzles.. i can't believe no other game copied it, instead all copied WOW.. i wish FFXIV had its open world system.. and yes im sick and tired of people saying the same BS about this game over and over thinking everything should be WOW.. that being said theres like a billion currencies in this game and is quite confusing to me

[@danielbrown8812]

Truly being able to do whatever you want is what i love about gw2. There is no feeling of pressure to do dailies every day or to do end game raiding if you don't want to. I treat the game like the open world sandbox game i have been wanting to play forever. I probably spend most of my time just exploring, hunting and gathering in whatever zone i feel like that day and i don't feel like I am losing out because im not doing the meta way to make gold or obtain rare things. I can literally think of dozens of projects to work towards that could keep me playing for 10 years and I would never feel like im grinding or forced to do things other than what i want to be doing.

[@tbone9474]

I was just finishing up an achievement to get my precursor shield in the fractals, I decided to go T1 as I thought... had enough of T4s for a while. 1 person obviously was new but he was so scared of admitting he was new he didn't say anything. I helped him out after the run to understand how to run fractals. The importance of agony resistance for example, how to farm the infusions etc... poor guy was surprised I took the time to guide him. I'm proud to be part of the community that's welcoming to help

[@nerdy_dav]

Easily one of the most engaging MMO's Out there.. I've played everything from WoW to SWOTOR and played MUD's way back when. GW2 has one of the best blends of actions, difficulty, story, progression of any game let alone MMO. If it wasn't for titles like the Witcher and playing games with my son ( like Minecraft ) and nerdy endeavours (like KSP) It would be only game I play outside of race sims.

[@Rizon1985]

It's an MMO but it's not an MMORPG. It's a MMOARPG. All classes are hybrids being able to damage, tank and heal. There are a limited amount of buttons at once on the screen and you have to play them much faster. Your skills also completely vary depending on your build and weapon so you get completely different play styles instead of a few core spells changing. Since there are no healers that need to be kept busy, the game relies on evasion of damage such as the standard running out of red circle but also evading attacks by dodging or jumping, watching the movement of enemies and using the terrain to climb on it or hide behind it.

[@xecor4450]

there are dedicated healer roles.

[@themooniscoming]

This may be just for open world

[@niclastname]

I would say the gem investment you mention is super inflated for way more convenience than you need. You can easily cut several thousand out of that. 1 You get a shared inventory slot with each expansion. 2 You can get up to 160 bag slots without ever buying bag expanders, let alone 4 of them. 3 you definitely don't need a vip pass since you can TP to any main city at any time, especially now with Arborstone and Wizard's Tower TP scrolls (and main cities work just fine. Rata Sum is super convenient as well). Hell I only have two because they were gifted and I very rarely use them. 4 Salvage o matics are convenient, but far from even strongly recommended imo. I played for like 8 years before I ever got one and never felt a need. I'd agree on really only the material storage and a couple bank tabs, maybe not even 4. The gathering tools are really only good for the glyphs imo. And then they add the inconvenience of having to swap them from characters. They've never felt necessary since tools are cheap and everywhere. Same with salvage kits. I'd say almost every player would be happy spending about 2k-3k of that 12k list. Great video though!

[@proklet4694]

Good video Teapot. I would like to emphasize 2 things that you said. 1) You can not outgear or outscale hard content in gw2. If you can not beat it, you need to improve and practice more. 2) in WoW cache shop you can buy items only for real money, in GW2 you can buy them by playing the game, the difference is huge.

[@mmendes]

Wicked teapot unchained

[@chrisphoenix2825]

Well "technically" every skin and item is 100% available ingame, because of the fact that you can change ingame gold for gems. So just play your favorite gamemode until you have the gold, change it into gems and buy your heckin overpriced mount skin... That is actually my favorite thing about guild wars. If you have the time and dedication you can get absolutely everything without paying a single dollar. And i have absolutetely no idea who ever came up with the idea that the game is "pay to win" It only ever had cosmetics and such things in the gem shop since release and that never changed.

[@dagbroad]

well, without paying a single dollar other than buying the expansion packs itself, and saying that they're well worth the price is a big understatement

[@drakkonusfrostburn4038]

This video was so well done I immediately subbed. I've not seen any of MightyTeapot's other vids. After this though, I am sure they are going to be good.

[@MightyTeapot]

NICE

[@durpbawlwelf4269]

I have to say to amount of "idiot" things you can do and somehow they still work is one of the main reasons I play GW2, regarding the lack of "holy trinity" I think the fact the game doesn't have set roles is what makes it so great. Not to mention you don't have skill points like systems that locks you to one path, no, one minute you're full dps and the other you are a immortal beast that still does quite considerable damage and right next you're playing support, all with the same character! As someone who loves to experiment and see what I can get away with, even when others say "that's stupid", this feature alone is just perfect.

[@Shalodar]

Great video, now they might just further step up their marketing game (as in - move past the starting line...) and who knows how the game will look like in a year from now! :)

[@bevanh.6068]

I really hope they put some effort into marketing End Of Dragons, cause I feel it's a good moment for a resurgence in players

[@peasouphobo6285]

I think an easy win would be them finding a way to add to your home instance characters relevant to where you are in the story and have unique dialogue to comment on where you are in the story. It would make new players so much more vested in going all of the content, I don't think there's really enough carrots to encourage people to play multiple playthroughs as different characters, and that would allow them to bypass the other route which would be far cooler, but unrealistic, which is revisiting the alignment feature that they abandoned, re-recording lots of lines to make the dialogue difference feel more like Star Wars Old Republic. They really do need to figure out a better way to reduce the barrier into crafting, that system isn't easy to adopt, specifically to reduce the barrier to endgame crafting I started playing WoW again after years of not playing any online games, got bored and ended my subscription (news stuff happened soon after). Tried Star Wars the Old Republic, The questing experience felt so good, but it scratched more of a single player game itch, came back to guild wars 2 after not playing for 7 years, and I just genuinely love the combat, build crafting, and the general openness to hop into different game modes. I went through all of the expansions in sequential order (stopped at South Sun), unlocking each mount has felt amazing and completely changed how enjoyable it is to level alts, but the outdated systems really stick out. Old broken dialogue lines that still exist in core, or getting stuck in an animation during the last leg of a quest that you need to start over. I hate achievements as quests, that interface does not make it a smooth experience. And the moment anything requires me to look up a wiki that I truly know shouldn't need one, that there should be a better cleaner in-game solution because every time you push someone out of your product they're more likely to not go back, and that's anything to do with crafting towards a big goal item. I really don't know how they could make end game crafting easier, but I do know it's not enjoyable to try to figure out. Whoever's idea it was for downstates is a genius, all that does is encourage the player base to be more thoughtful in helping out other players, and it's just reinforced with map wide meta events, and their rewards. I really believe this is a core part of reinforcing the genuine good nature of the players that I usually experience. They should also half gem store prices, I do view it as purchasing artwork, but the price scaling is not correct. Each expansion should have a decent amount of gems spread across achievements, just enough to buy a couple of cosmetic items at least. Long time that would probably drive more purchases and greater financial gain than what they have today, Gem Store is definitely a bit of a milk fest if you want the convenience benefits. PS: I deleted all the boosts I got, painstakingly writing the stupid item names in that stupid confirm delete box because I already had six characters. But it's the only way I can properly learn the classes and have fun in that process, I know for me jumping towards the end and needing to sift through all those skills and abilities at once would have made me stop playing the game pretty fast.

[@Keeperoffyre]

casual player here with some hours clocked in WvW. love the different options one has at "end game". like exploring and, maybe, crafting? go for it and take in the beautiful scenery while you're at it (and world bosses)! want to do fractals/raids? there are folks that can help you learn the mechanics of each fractal and raid boss! want to beat the crap out of other players? boy, do you have options! want the best gear ever? well, have fun with that grind! (still working on parts for Aurora...) like jumping around and seeing how far you can go to get a chest of loot at the top of an area (or a clock tower during October)? jumping puzzles, my friends!

[@emilyblanche2449]

My character recently celebrated her 1 year aniversary, complete with a birthday gift from the game, and i can't say enough how much i enjoy playing Guild Wars 2. I started playing it mostly because of the graphics and story and quickly fell in love with the game. I tried out all the classes by now, but stuck with the mesmer i started with, because she suits me the most. I'm really grateful my friend decided to introduce this game to me, because he's been right about me "possibly liking it" :D

[@Drascylla]

I really appreciate this video primarily because its not just your own opinion you actually provided hard numbers on some of the more important questions and that is as unbias as one can ask for these days.

[@lordofthereins7270]

WoW cost $15 x12 for a year = $180. One of my favorite things about GW2 is the gem shop. If I spend $15/month in the gem shop I get BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL mount skins or fancy QOL items. For example, you can buy this thing that will summon your friend to you, no matter where you are. I love spending money in the gem shop as a way to support the game. With WoW for $15 I get nothing

[@BisonAffinity]

WoW costs $15 dollars. But you get raid updates throughout the expansion faster, you get a whole VARIETY of mounts you can earn in game that have INFINITELY more prestige given their selective applications on how to get them instead of the intertwined real money/gold method of gw2, and pretty much all the armour is earned through game play, whether its dull of flashy. I can earn 10 mount skins in a month in WoW with a whole variety of applications on how to earn them, while in gw2 I can pay the same price for ONE SKIN with no prestige because they're no distinction between me and the kid with his parents credit card playing IMVU

[@MightyTeapot]

Nah that's not the point, the problem with cash shop cosmetics is that they mean absolutely nothing in the context of the game. They are totally disconnected from the game, if you get a rare skin or prestige skin in wow there is no buying it, only playing will get you there - that is not the case in GW2 for most items and all but one mount skin. This is the core criticism of the reward structure of GW2. Not liking a sub fee is 100% fair, but I think you have to call out the downsides of the system even if they don't directly affect you. For example the downsides in GW2 don't affect me either, I really don't care about rewards whatsoever but that doesn't mean I can't be objective about the systemic design and empathize with the large amount of players who do care for rewards.

[@manuelsilva6244]

@@BisonAffinity can't you buy wow tokens? Your whole argument falls flat when you can use money to get in game currency. And let's not pretend that even if the game itself doesn't allow you to buy in game currency you can't just go to a "shady" website or discord and just pay someone to farm in-game gold for you. There's always a kid with a credit card that is going to get things that you had to grind for, players just like the illusion that that's not the case and like it when this rich kids aren't the big portion of the players.

[@BisonAffinity]

@@manuelsilva6244 It would be an argument that falls flat on its face.... if the mounts weren''t still rare in WoW. Despite this option existing very few people actually do it given how expensive it is and its clear by how few end raid boss mount, gladiator mounts, archaeology mounts you actually see in-game. Plus this is entirely dependent on arena nets implementation of the mount skin collection isn't it? If there was an achievement mode living world, not only would I actually play living world again but I would be solely contingent on earning the mount.

[@xecor4450]

@@BisonAffinity for wow players mount skins = prestige rewards. Thats just not the case with this game. Mount skins are cosmetics in gw2 hence there is no prestige attached to it.

[@TangoFormica]

Many of us are clearly very biased because we've been playing for 9 years, but the relevance of gw2 after all that time is remarkable. Even with the rough patches through the journey, this is the biggest, most complete game I've played in my life, and the amount of players you run into in EVERY MAP AND MODE in the game is the proof of that. Also, Teapot your videos are seriously awesome. You're a very talented content creator.

[@OiZoProduct]

Your style of explanation is super clear and nicely crafted storytelling, awesome job!

[@Druuj]

Strikes being introduced from the start of the xpac is not evidence of the dedication on anet in that pve direction, it is evidence of anet's inability to consistently produce quality group-pve activities. Dungeons have been dead for years, fractals only got the sunqua peak (from which only the last boss on CM is enjoyable) as a teaser for asian-themed expansion, raids are considered as too heavy an investment for the production team, so they went on with itty bitty strikes (a few and hard modes of them) as an excuse so as to not be stuck with the same old no-endgame "slander". Honestly I enjoy the game and will get the xpac to be able to play with my friends, but if it wasn't for the peer pressure, I wouldn't hurry to buy it untill they released some decent instanced content. Btw MTeapot do you know if this is just the latest or the last expansion of GW2?

[@leigheros1003]

I don't have most of the QOL items that you list purchased from the gem store and honestly, I think my QOL is fine. Sure, things could be a bit more convenient but I never find anything overly inconvenient, iykwim. So just to say, that you can get away with spending a lot less that $120 on QOL items and still have a great time and not really miss them. I wouldn't want the idea that if you don't spend $120 then the game will be annoyingly inconvenient to play, to put ppl off playing the game, cause I don't believe that is the case. Also, you can often get those QOL items on sale if you are patient, so you can amass them over time for less than $120

[@guardiangibbs2663]

The only Quality of Life items I am willing to pay for and have paid for are the account wide stuff. Bank expansions, shared inventory slots(where you store your salvage o matics) maybe some build storage, ect. That would be my recommendation to anyone whos serious about the game. Its almost $10 for a shared inventory slot, but sticking a salvage o matic in it is sooo worth it.

[@Rythera]

I think its worth noting on the obtainability of items, is that you can get the items to unlock random cosmetics from the black lion chests, which you can quasi farm. 1 a week for little effort, more with a more significant time investment.

[@boonytoons7968]

amazing video! thanks a lot man :D love the content

[@colpamia8213]

This vid gave me the motivation to play again

[@R_SENAL]

Well done!! Finely crafted, I can see the level of work put into this and I appreciate it, we need to leech all those disgruntled FF & WoW players over here for a more .... Gruntled experience! :)

[@reihwan]

Imagine having friends in the game to do the endgame stuff. =/ As an introvert it's really hard to open up and re-learn to trust people after so many let downs. Not to mention sometimes even reaching the end game just feels like a steep hill that I just look up and wave at the people there, because I get pummeled by simple everyday mobs in the overworld. Getting better gear is an option, but after spending just about everything I had to get the Griffin in PoF I mentally just gave up trying to keep up. With no one to chat with or to read idle-chatter it's a very lonesome game.

[@SupahPancho]

Brilliant video. Congratulations! Your contributions to Guild Wars 2 as a whole are immeasurably positive. You're underrated mr. MightyTeapot.

[@agoonist]

Nothing to see here, just chiming in by for some algorithm pump! also, 360p gang

[@Fydron]

I never understood the there is no endgame moaning. To me GW2 has the best endgame there is and always has had nothing feels mandatory when i get my character to 80 and after that i can do whatever the hell i want. GW2 has always felt like it respects my time.

[@manuelsilva6244]

It comes from people that are used to games that tell them what they have to do in end game and for it usually being gear farming. Because GW2 gear is easy to obtain and because the game doesn't tell you what to do some people just get lost, leave and say there's no content instead of exploring what there is in the game.

[@Fydron]

@@manuelsilva6244 And at the same time they moan that stuff is mandatory to do...

[@eolendes6432]

I tried to get into GW2 comming from other MMOs like WoW, FFXIV or SWTOR and I just couldn't- I like to play supports, classes that thrive in team based content, and there was nowhere for me to go. I tried fractals- It took forever for me to get a group and once inside it felt like my abilities did absolutely nothing. I played a Chronomancer to buff up allies and slow and stun enemies. CC with buffs and some heals but no, nothing. Everybody else was so overleved and overgeard anything I did felt like it had no impact. I tried other builds but it was essentially a "just do damage" thing. I hate PVP in all its forms so I'd stick to PVE. It also didn't help the way AoEs are portrayed. In open world content the telegraphs become a clusterfuck and you never know what hurts you or what actually hits you. Some people like chaotic fights, but after my experience in FFXIV where AoEs are so clearly defined, I just couldn't deal with GW2's system. I did like the variety of builds though. And loved the concepts for the Engineer and Mesmer classes.

[@Seezonn]

This is a great video. I loved the list and explanations you put together!

[@lordofthereins7270]

God I hope asmongold watches this!!

[@supervaderwars]

Quality content 😍

[@xMant1k]

30:16 "the important part to me is that you won't have any less fun if you don't spend any money" Yet you HAVE TO SPEND some money to get expansion because without it you CANNOT: Whisper to player in another map Chat in map (limited communation) Trade with another players (send stuffs and golds via mails) Sell any item in trading post (auction/market) to earn golds, limited by item selected list Join raids Etc. etc. etc.

[@swanofnutella4734]

Thanks for the favorable video about GW2. The worlds most under-rated MMO. For a game that's "not in development" or "Dead" it runs smoother and feels more contemporary than almost all the other MMOs I've tried. I've tried all the majors except ESO.

[@Erelyn1]

it's also honestly a great game to take a break from. I very often stop playing for 6 months at a time, come back and my gear and what I've worked towards so far is all still 100% valid, so it never feels like I'm missing out on anything. On top of that, like teapot said, endgame is whatever you make it to be, sometimes I do fractals, sometimes for months on end I just do open world events. Although I will say that the raids seem a bit "gatekeep-y" by the community and I wish it was a bit easier to get into without committing to a raiding guild. They have been out for so long that seems you either have to subject to bad groups or have people ask for hundreds of proof of kill of a certain boss

[@0UTSIDER]

I wish my friends gave GW2 a try but they don't want to "learn" this game because it's been out for so long already and veteran players have huge advantage over newbies.

[@frankthedsigner558]

This is not entirely true. Yeah you will need to learn the game and the class you are playing but simply playing alongside players, doing world boss trains and especially playing through your personal story, there shouldn't be any reason you can't also be as good as the 9yr old veteran player. Some 'vetrans' are still bad at the game 9yrs later. GW2 is a skill based game which anyone can get good at.

[@xecor4450]

Aside from people getting better at the game over the years there is no advantage veteran has over new players. But the advantage from skill could be much higher than some mmo player's ego can take.

[@wojtski97]

15:00 in Black Desert Online there are 1v1 and 3v3 tournaments organized by the devs and if you win the best in class, you get rewarded with a costume (not obtainable anywhere else), it's the only one that has moving components in it, it's very cool to see those rewards in mmos :D

[@CaffeineInjected]

Great Video and very informative. Thank you Teapot.

[@stefanoanta3189]

It is in bad quality most likely because the video is freshly uploaded and it takes a bit for the full HD to load

[@taelius]

The time of false truths is over. Now is the time of light. The winds of change are blowing!

[@ianclarke4945]

Not to forget the seasonal events like Halloween, Xmas, Adventure Box etc. Plus all those special events that randomly come up like the player designed weapons quest, the shinny weapons events - in a way if you are casual you're really gonna have to manage your time effectively. Like crafting (yep you need to go online and use GW2efficientcy.) Cost effective levelling for tailoring & weapon smith look it up online, getting the most from the forge (AKA toilet) Also finding out where to get recipes - also what events are up using the ingame typed in at prompt /wiki ET. Yep GW2 has a MASSIVE learning curve when you look at it from a beginners stand point, actually even after playing for a long time you'll still find those (I never knew that moments.) And yep all those special items that will transport you to a specific place or give once daily items and home instances and what to put in them - yep lots and lots and lots.

[@nesurame]

Most of the people I see calling GW2 a dead game are my teammates in WvW matchs, despite them showing up every day