Dissolving Gold in Poor Man's Aqua Regia

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Boris Petrov

Boris Petrov

8 жыл бұрын

The whole proccess of dissolving gold in poor man's aqua regia and futher precipitation with SMB

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@StezeeRider
@StezeeRider 6 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed the simplicity and presentation..
@MRBOOCH526
@MRBOOCH526 8 жыл бұрын
The video about proper methods of gold precipitation was just as entertaining as it was informative. Also I would love to see a video demonstrating fractional distillation. Thanks!
@sreetips
@sreetips 5 жыл бұрын
Useful video, thank you.
@hithereart
@hithereart 6 жыл бұрын
Great helpful video!!!! Thank you very much!!!
@MRBOOCH526
@MRBOOCH526 8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. This one was also quite good.
@borispetrov6575
@borispetrov6575 8 жыл бұрын
+Everett Beatty Thanks I really apreciate you like my videos
@sniffinjoe7140
@sniffinjoe7140 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained great video thank you.
@ivsongold322
@ivsongold322 5 жыл бұрын
very good my friend, great work, success, we, your projects
@wngchnKid
@wngchnKid 8 жыл бұрын
i will be looking forward to that! thanks a lot.
@mohmadborhan4388
@mohmadborhan4388 8 жыл бұрын
hi , really all your videos are great and full of knowledge .
@phuongthach1290
@phuongthach1290 5 жыл бұрын
Cong thuc khong ro trong hoa hoc
@daljitslabdsr3185
@daljitslabdsr3185 4 жыл бұрын
Ur channel is so interesting i like ur all concept
@saraancell4636
@saraancell4636 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video making this proscess easier, however can you please talk about how to extract gold from gold filled and heavy plated jewelry the easiest way possible?
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tomstirniman3370
@tomstirniman3370 5 жыл бұрын
I've gotten some good info from your videos. You explain things well and you go at a nice pace for taking notes. I was excited to try this poor Man's AR method on some concentrates that I have. But I had to laugh at myself when I realized I was just going to end up with a beaker full of white mushy salts. Hopefully you can give me a couple tips and I can try again. First, I washed my cons in some HCl thinking this would be a good way to get rid of some base metals - then filter and wash Second, I added a couple teaspoons of Sodium Nitrate (Hi-Yield 16-0-0) with about 100ml of HCL - had to heat a bit after an hour because it didn't look like much was happening - then started getting bubbles Let sit overnight Third, filter into beaker and slowly add Sulfamic to de-NOX - very visible roiling on surface and lots of white gas released. This goes on for a long time.....every time I add another 1/2 teaspoon it takes off again. Finally it calms down and no heavy reaction. It does change color from that deep golden to more of a pale yellow. Pale Yellow salts collecting in the bottom of beaker. Fourth, I filter, let set and slowly add SMB. Big reaction with lots of bubbling and fumes. Keeps getting lighter and lighter in color. I think I could keep adding SMB all day. The only thing collecting on the bottom of beakers is light, white fluffy stuff. I am going to keep experimenting with different combinations and steps but wanted to ask a knowledgeable person what the obvious mistake is that I'm making.
@user-ht5ii6lr1m
@user-ht5ii6lr1m 2 жыл бұрын
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@Muaaand
@Muaaand 6 ай бұрын
i got the same behavior ... white mushy salts seperating to the bottom...maybe this caused by Tap Water? Did you manage to purify your Gold and how you did it?
@Tigeristiger
@Tigeristiger 3 жыл бұрын
A few years late, but that plastic you have on your table, I pulled the same one out of a monitor. Just wild I was able to notice that.
@AquaRegia-419
@AquaRegia-419 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise. As well the other sheets are great for random projects/art.
@wngchnKid
@wngchnKid 8 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing your knowledge. i learned a lot. hope in the future, you could share your knowledge in gold leaching process using safe chemicals like iodine.
@borispetrov6575
@borispetrov6575 8 жыл бұрын
+wngchnKid Yes I can make such a video one day provided I will have enough gold bearing material suitable for iodine leaching
@1hardman161
@1hardman161 5 жыл бұрын
My cons have sulfur, prevents SMB from working. Will this process work? Cons in AR warm, increments nitric and HCl till no reaction, filter rinse, back in pot hot to denox add HCl twice then water, stir in zinc filter precip rinse, dry then take precip put in hot HCl 24 hrs, filter rinse real good, then put precip into nitric/water hot 24 hrs filter and melt with oxy/acet torch. Not worried about silver loss, I am after the gold and pgm's. Zinc drops all metals, then HCl soak and Nitric soak to remove all junk metals, but gold and pgm's. Is this process correct?
@alllove1754
@alllove1754 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, and I've been wasting my nitrates trying to make nitric acid and only getting a weak solution... Good to know!
@jakebaldwin1308
@jakebaldwin1308 3 жыл бұрын
Angel All Love sulfuric acid, nitrate salt, copper, bubbled through either water or hydrogen peroxide - gotta love nurdrage!
@Butterfly-fb3jk
@Butterfly-fb3jk 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have any idea how high must be pH level before adding SMB? Is it 5 pH? I´m having a panic now. I lost my gold in aqua regia, just dissolving it with water + I added hydrazine hydrate 98% solution a bit after all. First occured brownish snot in it what dissolved after 15 min. I tested my AR with SnCl2 after "accident "any sign of gold... What do you think, should I correct pH level first (water/HCl) and repeat it again with Hydrazine hydrate 60% or I can use sulfamic acid and try SMB in my AR? It has nice color , clear dark yellow.
@prospectorpete
@prospectorpete 4 жыл бұрын
please tell me how to use iron sulfate , i bought some and i dont know how much to use
@tjsonic11
@tjsonic11 8 жыл бұрын
one of the best video I have seen thank you. If you can be bothered I would love one on refining Catalytic converters and possibly using peroxide. I like in Australian and alot of the chemicals and hard to buy. cheers Tj
@borispetrov6575
@borispetrov6575 8 жыл бұрын
+tjsonic11 Thanks I really apreciate you liked my video. Unfurtunatelly I will not make any video about automotive catalytic converters. At least not any soon. The trouble with aoutomotive cats they may contain ZERO Platinum Group Metals. I'm not saying all of them are worhtless, but quite many. So unless somebody is willing to donate me some ammount of automotive cats I will not be bothered with them, becaue I'm afraid I just waste my money (I would have to buy them, since I do not own scrapyard)
@AwakeningEnthusiast
@AwakeningEnthusiast 4 жыл бұрын
So can I take all the placer gold that I have panned and refine it to a pure state this way?
@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821
@rodneysrepurposingrecyclin3821 7 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for new videos. Have you been doing well my friend?
@Milkman12114
@Milkman12114 5 ай бұрын
The water bottle that you put the glove fingers. Can you add some baking soda to help dilute any aqua regia residue? Or is it not needed.
@MrCcfly
@MrCcfly 7 жыл бұрын
nice video..can u write what chemicals u use in process ?? what is s m b on end ? ,what salt u use on beginning ? magnesium chloride ? thanks
@SomervilleBob
@SomervilleBob 7 жыл бұрын
Any chance of making a fizzer cell video for gold? Thanks.
@BullProspecting
@BullProspecting 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use sodium nitrate? Instead of magnesium nitrate?
@TacticalPeace
@TacticalPeace 3 жыл бұрын
So I can melt down gold 10k-18k jewelry turn into cornflakes and use this method to purify it?
@adilmehafoos.c3993
@adilmehafoos.c3993 2 жыл бұрын
Can I convert the aqua Regis color into a clear as water with glycerine
@sponyz
@sponyz Жыл бұрын
after adding smb my solution turned dark red then light green after 10 minutes. yours turned black. i was wondering if my solution had any problem, why it turned dark red? i made test on some rocks to check if they have gold.
@healthbeauty7853
@healthbeauty7853 6 жыл бұрын
i dissolved gold laptop ram connectors in acid peroxide, and its now liquid gold in acid peroxide. how do i get it out of acid peroxide, do i use smb.
@FollowMe2aMillion
@FollowMe2aMillion 4 жыл бұрын
Boris, here I am watching your old videos again. Would love to see what you are working on these days old friend.
@larryshively1790
@larryshively1790 2 жыл бұрын
Yes hi so I have ran about 6 batches of gold on circuit board s so I have 6 jars of green solution now I know there's gold in the solution now do I put the sodium metabisulfite and how much do I use and do I use hot water please get back to me thank you
@belchev77
@belchev77 4 жыл бұрын
Hi,where are you from, i very much hope you are bulgarian.I need help, I live in London, and the materials are not easy to find here.
@joshwallace2183
@joshwallace2183 Жыл бұрын
Does it turn green at the beginning because it is dissolving base metals?
@Auroral_Anomaly
@Auroral_Anomaly 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t know you could use other nitrates.
@dalalbanijaber3893
@dalalbanijaber3893 7 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend I work as an amateur in collecting scrap you beyond the mistakes of leaving my solutions containing all the minerals and deposits all contain recycled What is the best way to re-repeating the process successfully and easy ways uncomplicated and thank you for your wonderful videos and information
@seannyc88
@seannyc88 3 жыл бұрын
hey sir what did mean watch out for carbon? i think thats my situation i cant precipitate gold out
@marcoapimentel8096
@marcoapimentel8096 3 жыл бұрын
Thenks l marco and l think is the perfc tu cualiri ilike wather regia ?wat is the daste watcany youset
@justdejv2946
@justdejv2946 3 жыл бұрын
can i use 31% hydrochloric acid?
@everydaynews33
@everydaynews33 5 жыл бұрын
Thank's for video's. My question is: can I use caustic soda to neutralize nitric acid? And can I use kalium meta bi sulfate to precipitate gold? Thank you for your answer.
@uxleumas
@uxleumas 3 жыл бұрын
yes, but it's easy to over-shoot the ph with naoh and that might turn some of the gold salt into gold hydroxide.
@gilfrd
@gilfrd 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Boris. I tried your instructions, very good video. After the initial reaction the contents turned very dark green, almost black not tea colored. I have not de-nitrified it yet and it's been 3 days. Did I do anything wrong or should I just continue the process? I used HCl 35% and potassium nitrate. Please help.
@94981745
@94981745 7 жыл бұрын
It's probably dissolved a lot of copper as well as gold.... Thats where the green colour comes from...... Notice at the end of the video the gold has settled at the bottom and the liquid solution is blue?? It''s blue because of the copper left in the solution. It shouldn't affect you too much... Keep going.
@1hardman161
@1hardman161 5 жыл бұрын
@@94981745 Hopefully you get back to me soon. I have ore thats very heavy in sulfur. I first done AR then zinc, then remove the zinc and got 1 gram of gold from 5 lbs of cons. I was told to do AR, filter, then add copper to the liquid leave sit and the precious metals will precipitate, then take this and go back to AR. I have a white sticking to the pipe looks like calcium. I cant find any help on this and am in the middle of doing this. I understand I need to do this to get the metals away from the sulfur first. Will this way of process work? Thanks
@numatechprototypes222
@numatechprototypes222 5 жыл бұрын
What about potassium nitrate?
@nativeflight7079
@nativeflight7079 2 ай бұрын
What is the material you’re using as table top?
@crazykitchenswatijais6563
@crazykitchenswatijais6563 Ай бұрын
In 100 ml HCl how much kno3 will be good
@david2ljdavid2lj56
@david2ljdavid2lj56 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a nitrate salt then why wouldn't you just synthesize nitric acid with it?
@philrant2408
@philrant2408 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, can I use this to recover gold from terminals? I have a lot from my blood test monitor.
@roywhipple7340
@roywhipple7340 4 жыл бұрын
If doing terminals from blood test its easier to use actual nitric acid/ muriatic acid combinations and watch sreetips youtube videos on refining circuit board fingers. Been nerding out on this stuff for months,
@nickhouck4309
@nickhouck4309 4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm confused because I have watched bunch of refining videos and they all use nitric acid to dissolve copper and base metal. So wouldn't this still be a mixture of whatever it was to begin with? They use hydrochloric and claim the hydrochloric will only dissolve the gold and not copper..
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could do a video on how to make (karat) gold electroplating solution in the neighborhood of 10k-18k but without potassium cyanide or any form of cyanide preferably. I need to do some electroplating but I definitely don't want to do it in 24k and it would be awesome if it could be done without leveraging an impregnated solution as much as using donor gold as soluble anode because I have the donor gold (and it could become an anode in less than 10 minutes). I could make a donation to your Channel or something like that for incentive or be eternally grateful as I'm unemployed and on a very tight budget but I can easily handle a 10 or 20 dollar donation if need be.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
I'm curious why you characterized it as "the most elegant way to do it" was to use sulfamic acid?
@seannyc88
@seannyc88 3 жыл бұрын
how do you avoid carbon issue
@jessewenger1004
@jessewenger1004 3 жыл бұрын
Silver nitrate or copper nitrate with the hydrochloric
@kevinauld4367
@kevinauld4367 3 жыл бұрын
Like your style except when you are adding , 1to 1 or 1 to 3 is that bye wate or by vallum . I know you have not made a video for a few years 🤔
@excelyousef8968
@excelyousef8968 Жыл бұрын
Hi Boris, great vodeos, hoping you can help. I managed to dissolve the gold in poor mans ar with magnesium nitrate. Looked good. I then tried sodium matabisulPHATE, which reacted but did not precipitate anything. I tried other amounts, no good. I then tried with sodium metabisulPHITE, but there is no reaction at all. Should I try again with sulphate or sulphite and do something different?
@toomuchdebt5669
@toomuchdebt5669 8 ай бұрын
When all else fails add copper or zinc and stat all over again.
@hillbilly4998
@hillbilly4998 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video if you had no idea how much gold to expect could you add smb a little at a time and keep doing stannous test in solution thanks for the video
@malcolmcliff-du8qp
@malcolmcliff-du8qp 4 жыл бұрын
I'd also like to know this, I'd prefer SMB rather... Only reason I haven't done my gold refining is cause I don't know how much is in my small raw bar.
@eyupgoker5169
@eyupgoker5169 8 жыл бұрын
Hallo habe eine frage mit was haben Sie es gemischt denn Sulfamic acid mit heißem wasser danke
@borispetrov6575
@borispetrov6575 8 жыл бұрын
+Eyüp Göker Sprichst du Deutsch? :)
@mrgreenswelding2853
@mrgreenswelding2853 5 жыл бұрын
Ammonium nitrate can go boooom!
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 4 жыл бұрын
Good reason to not use it unless you absolutely have to.
@AceBullion
@AceBullion 6 жыл бұрын
How do you get any silver out of solution if its there?
@joshuarhodes338
@joshuarhodes338 4 жыл бұрын
jonrms use ammonia
@jamesburriss1086
@jamesburriss1086 4 жыл бұрын
Add copper and aerate and it cement out of the solution onto the copper
@abrahamlincoln6102
@abrahamlincoln6102 5 жыл бұрын
> has gold >cant afford aqua regia
@AlexEiken24
@AlexEiken24 8 жыл бұрын
I like the video. Very informative. Thank you for the information. You said any type of nitrate would work? What about Potassium Nitrate? Same concept?
@borispetrov6575
@borispetrov6575 8 жыл бұрын
Potassium and Sodium nitrates are among the best ones. So yes, it will work like charm
@AlexEiken24
@AlexEiken24 8 жыл бұрын
+Boris Petrov You're awesome. Thank you. I really enjoy processing, purifying, dissolving and refining precious metals.
@Micro-Miner
@Micro-Miner 7 жыл бұрын
And what is with ammonium nitrate will it work to ?
@gilfrd
@gilfrd 7 жыл бұрын
Boris Petrov
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
So is poor man's nitric the same as poor man's aqua regia?
@scottadams3586
@scottadams3586 6 жыл бұрын
what is SMB and where do I purchase it?????????????????????
@jamesburriss1086
@jamesburriss1086 4 жыл бұрын
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@ponkiebonk
@ponkiebonk 6 жыл бұрын
It would be zinc
@allenhammer7923
@allenhammer7923 3 жыл бұрын
SMB?
3 жыл бұрын
Boris, what is SMB?
5 жыл бұрын
Voice despair
@AwakeningEnthusiast
@AwakeningEnthusiast 4 жыл бұрын
Can somebody please give me a list of things that I could get at local stores to do this? I have so much gold and all of it is different. He's I have 10K 14k 18K 24K. But I would like to make it all as close to the same and highest Purity possible. And then I have an idea for a mold I would like to make my own gold plaque with our family name on it and frame it. I have about 10 oz totaled. I am okay with losing some of the weight in refining this but I cannot seem to find any clear videos that tell me exactly what I need and where I can get it. Once I find out I might even make a video so that there is a clear video out there on this so other people can find it easier. Thank you in advance
@nurettingencturk1124
@nurettingencturk1124 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't understand anything because there is no subtitles in the video you made.ıam so sorry
@ainschuntayleuhn1147
@ainschuntayleuhn1147 6 жыл бұрын
Hello... Thank you very much for producing what appears to be the most practical and economically methods in the fine art of Gold Recovery. Question I have is: May I use Baking Soda to Neutralize this acid solution?
@kieranodea771
@kieranodea771 4 жыл бұрын
If you mean neutralize extra nitric acid before precipitating the gold then no. This will cause base metals to fall out of solution in the form of carbonates and hydroxides and would contaminate your gold. You could try to filter these out then precipitate the gold but this is not advised. If you mean to neutralize the waste solution after any precious metals have been recovered then sure. I usually a good idea to removed all dissolved metals before dumping out any waste solution.
@kieranodea771
@kieranodea771 4 жыл бұрын
Also to precipitate gold with sodium metabisulfite you need HCL in the solution. SMB reacts with hydrochloric acid to make SO2 gas, this gas is what then causes gold to precipitate out. As baking soda will neutralize both hydrochloric acid and nitric acid it can't be used to neutralize extra nitric acid present before dropping out gold.
@Hossak
@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын
You can dissolve it with glycine.
@naughtiusmaximus830
@naughtiusmaximus830 Жыл бұрын
Boris is Dutch?
@YoRichh
@YoRichh 6 жыл бұрын
Weneed to talk
@jamestruax9716
@jamestruax9716 5 жыл бұрын
is there anything you can replace for the salfamic acid
@sreetips
@sreetips 5 жыл бұрын
Evaporate to syrup and rehydrate with hydrochloric acid will rid the solution of excess nitric acid. Or you can just add extra sodium metabisulfite (SMB) until all the gold comes down and stays down.
@theterribleanimator1793
@theterribleanimator1793 4 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips just a question, would bubbling so2 work?
@shrikamakshi5984
@shrikamakshi5984 5 жыл бұрын
Pl.precscribe contents
@rameshchaursiya2102
@rameshchaursiya2102 3 жыл бұрын
main Indian ho UP ka rahane wala hun aapka English language samajh mein Nahin aata hai kripya Karke Hindi language mein bataen kaun kaun liquid Dal kar taiyar Kiya jata hai gold
@gcrecords1731
@gcrecords1731 4 жыл бұрын
this guy is speak very whell english
@markvietti
@markvietti 6 жыл бұрын
I dont think your freak
@isaacclark9825
@isaacclark9825 4 жыл бұрын
Silver dissolves just fine in aqua regia. In fact, it will dissolve in just nitric acid. You need to rethink what you are doing here.
@rkb6783
@rkb6783 2 жыл бұрын
60 seconds of info... 15:30 of ME ME ME ME ME ME... NO THANKS ! I NEED information !
@jonross377
@jonross377 3 жыл бұрын
you are wrong. I can easily buy nitric acid here in the states. shit is expensive though. 60 bucks a liter. it is much cheaper to make your own.
@RLScheurman
@RLScheurman 4 жыл бұрын
jeez, for fucks sake dude, neoprene gloves
@allenhammer7923
@allenhammer7923 3 жыл бұрын
2.05 into it I don't know what you said at all. You have an accent, you can not just make a sound that has no resemblance to a word and expect me to know what you said. You got to try harder. MIstakes in Chemistry can kill you, I need to know the word?
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