Disturbing Stories of Teachers Quitting

[@sugakookie6303]

When you mentioned about kids not getting in trouble, I thought about my oldest getting in serious trouble over a lie a girl told( her father and mother were both on the school board). She said she liked my son, he didn’t reciprocate so she and a group of friends told a teacher that my son threatened to bring a gun to school and shoot a bunch of kids. First, he was a quiet kid that didn’t have more than a core group of friends. Second, we didn’t own a gun. He got a three day suspension for no reason, I had to stay home from work ( also teacher). NOTHING was done to those other kids, even after she admitted she lied.

[@inthevault9603]

Sue the parents and district.

[@claudiamcnal187]

Incredible!! Too bad you could not easily take girl, family, admin to court!

[@KellyTheReiss]

I’m so sorry to hear that.

[@beckiej.morris8471]

That is horrible. 😢 Power corrupts

[@Peter-mj6lz]

Yeah I think in schools there are social politics with teachers. My unpopular opinion is that teachers think students and parents are unruly but social politics can add to unruly behaviour because being good doesn’t always pay. I’m working in a college currently and just notice all the social politics.

[@CraigLarner-h5t]

I quit at the end of the school year 2022 after I had suicidal ideations in November of 2021. I checked myself into the ER in 2021. I had 1 year of crisis counseling. I quit in 2022 ot a complete nervous breakdown. I did try to seek help from mental health services provided by our district but they kept dropping the ball and never got back to me. I have been on meds for depression and anxiety since November of 2021. To this day I do not have a job due to the levels of anxiety I experience daily. Anyone I run into that talks about wanting to be a teacher I strongly discourage them. A little bit about me; I was a 4th grade teacher who had strong classroom management in an inner-city school. After the quarantine days my work load tripled. I was working 92hrs/week. 7hrs was writing lesson plans that I had to turn into the school each week that accounted for every minute of teaching (list all standards, list every hour and minutes along with what was occurring at that given time). If someone came in to observe my classroom and I was not within 5 minutes of where my lesson plan said I was I would get reprimanded. The year I quit I was observed 38 times. I had a classroom of 29 students. 7 of the students had extreme behavior issues (e.g. explosive anger, runners, and thieves). I don't really feel that society as a whole gets what a teacher deals with on a daily basis. Frankly, even though I left the profession I would love to see a nationwide strike in the hopes that it would slap politicians into reality.

[@garyloss2878]

That us horrible! No human should be forced to endure such stress and humiliation. I hope you heal and take the time to reconnect with your inner self. I bet you have skills and talents that can be applied outside of public education and you can make a living that doesn't destroy your health. Best wishes.

[@ETBlair]

I don’t know how you made it to the end of the year! I’m glad you are out and I hope your anxiety gets better. ❤️

[@maritamuras8978]

I really hope you’re doing okay now. There have been times in teaching when I’ve struggled with mental health issues. I feel you.

[@thetruthwillsetyoufree891]

Great move ♟️May God be with you on whatever path you take.

[@CraigLarner-h5t]

Thank you all for the well wishes. I have just now started therapy after looking for 2 years. Still unemployed and psychiatrist states I am in no condition to go back to work. It was stated that I should be able to after meds get situated and therapy. I will say again... AVOID TEACHING AT ALL COST!

[@jessykaiser6373]

25 year veteran teacher here - That teacher that got moved from 6th to 1st and asked to hand over lesson plans she so arduously created, was moved because a relative was suddenly hired “to teach” 6th grade. Nepotism at its ugliest. Acts like that should not be legal in the school system. Faculty need to be protected from that. No admin should be allowed to legally move a teacher by 5 grade levels overnight right before school start. What school was that?!

[@laglendareed8086]

Yes and I would have burned the lesson plans let the relative create their own lesson plans. That is so wrong.

[@pennjazz]

"I'm sorry. I lost my lesson plans in a tragic boating accident."

[@cameronadkins]

“My dog ate my lesson plans.”

[@frankjohnson150]

I would have just said “No. this is my intellectual property and I will not turn it over. If you wish to discuss this further you can speak with my legal representative.”

[@grzegorzach3891]

Something I find bizzarre about the US school system in comparison to my country (Poland) is the existence of the "administrator" caste. Here every decision making person in every school is also a teacher (at higher positions their teaching load is reduced but they still do teach). Having a group of people who make the decisions, but do not suffer the consequences of these decisions is a recipe for disaster. Obviously they will make the decisions which are good for them and bad for the teachers - why should'nt they? What puzzles me in the cases of direct violence from the kids (or threats to use violence, eg. "I will burn your house when you and your kids are sleeping") - why nobody (teacher, administrator, sh*t - even other kids) calls the police? WTF?

[@EJ1443]

Because it sounds like parents are overly sensitive when anyone tries to warn them about their child’s behavior. And I personally feel like those parents see any negative consequences for terrible behavior as a trauma. Literally. Obviously I do not condone any kind of abuse towards kids (spanking is also abuse btw) but they do need serious repercussions for their behavior and maybe mental support if they have such severe issues.

[@carnage2332]

I may be wrong but I believe that administration caste has grown significantly in the US over the years as additional mandates and standardized goals have been mandated by law for these schools to follow. As the schools are strictly monitored for these standardized results and the schools can potentially lose additional funding if they are not hitting their "numbers." As a result people are brought on to make sure the schools hit their goals. This is also why the students are not suspended or expelled for misbehavior because it damages these same statistics for the school.

[@cameronadkins]

Administrators here in the US also make significantly higher salaries than teachers. The national average annual salary for teachers is $64,133 (59.123,96€). For administrators it’s $118,889 (109.603,29€). It’s insane.

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

A lot of us teachers DO think administrators should also continue to teach. The best principal I ever had did teach a while class a whole year. That was an oddity though. Most admins get into that job because they want to get OUT of the classroom. Not a good sign.

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

I did call the police when a student in my class went nuts and said she was going to "kill all the White bitches on the 3rd floor." Quite clearly I was in that targeted group. I told admin I wanted to at least file a police report on that violent student, to at least be sure they wouldn't put her back in my class. Was told I'd have to do that on my own. I called the police and officer came to my house to take my statement. I wish more teachers would do that, but I understand why they don't. Many principals would go nuts if a teacher did that. We were told to not "tell tales out of school."

[@gregjames9875]

Unruly, incorrigible, delinquent students should be suspended/expelled, without the school being held accountable for those student's schooling while they're out of school.

[@NeveauRock]

What??!!

[@gregjames9875]

@@NeveauRock It doesn't make sense, but it's true.

[@NeveauRock]

@@gregjames9875 If you believe that bullshit, stay out of education.

[@cherrlynnmurray]

Parents are the problem...Cut off those "crazy checks " if your child got enough sense to tell teachers "f**k you"; call them b***hes; threatening to f**k them up"...They are enabled to learn and conduct themselves properly...Not raised by wolves.

[@mario10zeus]

My experience too, terrible students. Still don't know if I want to go back.

[@frankheilingbrunner7852]

American schoolteachers are secular nuns. Think about it: To become a nun, you must swear to be poor, to submit to authority, to obey numerous rules, and to give up family life. You are expected to serve a transcendent cause and to feel guilty for any shortcoming in serving that cause. Isn't that a teacher's life? The difference is that real nuns have free housing, free food (at regular mealtimes!), and the consolations of religion.

[@handtalker2k]

I've always felt that teachers need to be taken off "missionary status" to be taken seriously, given the admin support they need to be successful, paid better, provided the materials needed to teach with & not out of pocket, treated like the professionals they are.

[@andre0baskin]

@@handtalker2k Exactly, teachers are highly trained professionals and deserve to be treated as such. The whole _teaching is a higher calling_ is regularly used to beat teachers over the head when they ask for what they are due.

[@VectorSpector385]

@@andre0baskinyep. Manipulation and gaslighting. It’s terrible what teachers are going through. Same for counselors. Such a sick mind game.

[@elizabethclark8374]

I resigned after 6 weeks at one of my teaching jobs that I had in my 33 year high school career. I left because the principal was nuts and I realized that she had it in for me and was going to make my life miserable. I left about 250-300 dollars worth of decorations in my classroom. I wanted my students to have a lovely classroom even though I was no longer there. BTW- I was so right about the principal a bunch of the teachers clustered around me the day I resigned and they confirmed that the principal’s plan (each year) was to pick 2 teachers each year to make their life MISERABLE. That year, I was one of the 2!!! Elizabeth Goodrich, Texas

[@mpetersonification]

That is sick! I had a similar experience before I left in 2014 after 20 years. I was a great teacher but the joy of teaching was why I left (administration was not very supportive).

[@USDOTATF]

I doubt the last part about purposely picking 2 teachers each year to make their life miserable but I get your point.

[@kayla123ism]

If you don’t believe admin would be vindictive like that, keep your innocence. No matter the group of people there will be someone who is not a good person. I believe fully they would pick someone who they didn’t like and make their life hard on purpose.

[@Melstrife]

I had the same thing happen to me! It was 1-2 teachers every year to show their power. I worked in Special Education and they came after me and pre-k teacher. I had my sped department come and back me up but I still resigned because I couldn't stand it and got sick all the time from the stress. But, I heard that principal got really sick, went into early retirement and got in trouble with higher ups. So karma was good! I am so sorry that also happen to you!

[@stephanienewton6618]

I feel like I was one of those targets with my last principal. It was awful.

[@jenny_loves_stitch]

In my personal opinion behavior starts at home, the parents that always take their child’s side with no questions asked create an environment where children don’t learn to take accountability for wrong behavior. As a child I couldn’t have gotten away with poor behavior I knew better . It saddens me to see how poorly educators are treated .

[@rebekahmontesdeoca565]

I think some of those parents do that because they want to convince themselves that their child is perfect because otherwise they would have to do something about their behavior, and they just don't want to deal with it.

[@odel2177]

Or it would be a direct attack on their terrible Genetics.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

a big part of the problem too is, we now have people who have mental health and severe emotional/behavior disorders in mainstream schools and classes, when in reality they need to be in a special program, not shoved into regular schools and classes ! food for thought, as we know, so many people think they need to bring back corporal punishment, i disagree, because we have many countries who outlawed that completely: Sweden, Finland, Holland, Cyprus, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden, and more: they do not use physical punishment, not parents, or teachers; and yet the students/ youth, and adults for that matter are much better behaved than they are as a whole here in the US. over all crime rates and jail / prison population is much much lower, violence and other crime is much lower than it is here. school performance(grades, attendance), is much higher than here. I think we need to research what they are doing to make things more effective . these students as well as adult need more stability, they need positive stimulation and yes they do need t be held accountable. do the research, look it up: yes, these countries and more do not use any corporal punishment and they do not have the problems we are having here.

[@kathyotoole4608]

Before my retirement, I was blessed to be able to work in the school district I had grown up in. The first few years were amazing. From the superintendent to the vice Principal, they always had our backs. Then the superintendent retired and her replacement was a demon! All of our principals retired or moved on. One of our fabulous history teachers/football coach who never had to send a student to the office got his admin. He became the new principal. Within two years, he had a heart attack and is retiring in January! Good admin is everything!!

[@kimlengning8859]

28 year veteran here, currently on stress leave. I really don’t know what to do.

[@jeansherwood2428]

Quit. You will be so much better off. Even if the only job you find is Starbucks.

[@WhatEver-u5j]

Quitters gotta quit yo like who you think you are be that

[@ronin2794]

Quit and allow these shitty parents to teach their own kids

[@Inkironnrum]

Have you considered filing for a worker’s compensation claim? They cover mental stress healthcare equally as much as a physical injury. Your employer must also include with your leave, WC to cover any appointments with a mental care health professional. Also, WC benefits, approximately 2/3 of your monthly income. I imagine your leave includes pay. If they deny you access to WC care, contact a WC attorney. Thereafter, your employer has no choice but to follow through with their WC insurance. The attorney will keep the gate open for all of the psychiatric care you need. Thereafter, compensation for your future therapy. If you are in California, the WC attorney will also include pain and suffering compensation with a settlement. People do not realize how serious cases like yours are. I know because I have two pending settlements. One is closing soon with a five digit settlement. Second closing thereafter with a six digit settlement. Please get worker’s compensation insurance, and follow up with a WC attorney.

[@WhatEver-u5j]

@@sparklight0964 triggered much bruh *BackItUpAndDumpIt*

[@ashleyduckworthyt3224]

We had a lockdown drill today and one my students said “knock knock” after the police tried our door. I was horrified at how careless she was about the lives of her fellow students and her teachers. We have been making it clear that lockdown drill practice may save their lives and that it’s serious what we do. She is in major trouble- no juice and chips are coming her way.

[@bassandbullies]

When I was a high school SPED para, I had a student do almost exactly this during a lockdown drill. The student was reprimanded, but I don't know to the extent. It was scary to see how little they cared about everyone's safety.

[@ashleyduckworthyt3224]

@@bassandbullies i was shocked. I still think about it all the time. It’s hard not to fully express how selfish and dangerous their actions are. I know they’re 9 years old in my class but most of them understand the weight of the situation- but others really don’t get it.

[@genzi78514]

What is a lockdown drill?

[@ashleyduckworthyt3224]

@@genzi78514 a drill ,similar to a fire drill, where staff and students shelter in place due to a threat on campus. Could be a rabid bobcat on the school grounds that wandered in from the forest or, at worse, an active shooter

[@Imbatmn57]

One time the teacher actually opened the door to the classroom during a drill like that, like lady really. Glad I wasn't in her room during an actual situation.

[@nancywilliams6777]

I remember a time in elementary school when our principal, Mr. Cagle, took our class when a teacher needed to leave early. I was completely amazed that he could be the teacher!

[@cpbower]

As someone who is looking to become a future teacher, I listen to this podcast to get a more personal inside of what happens on the other side of the desk. Most people can only see the student's perspective because that is all they have ever viewed it from, but hopefully listening to the podcast can show people what teachers constantly have to think about on a daily basis. Love everything that y'all are doing, so keep it up! #fduedtech

[@userthatcanthang]

I'm a 2nd year teacher and I'm quitting in a month. My only job option that pays well is to be a day-to-day sub until I find another school I can teach in. I will lose my health insurance for a time and I literally think it's worth it for me to leave anyway. I'm a 2nd year teacher. My first year, I was hired as a teacher in the field I studied for. They lied to me and have the resources I needed, so I had to replan a lot of my lessons. It was a hard first year for me but at least I got to teach content I loved and knew well. At the end of the summer, they told me I'd be working with another teacher in my content and I'd have some new classes with them and some of the same classes I taught my first year. Now, during the teacher week where we're back before the kids, I found out OFFICIALLY, 2 DAYS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED that they switched my content completely. Like, from arts to computer science. I wanted to throw up. Those last 2 days, I couldn't even lesson plan because they kicked me out of my computer lab with brand new macs (that aren't being used by ANYONE?) and put me in a disgusting classroom with mouse droppings, so I had to move all of my stuff across the building and clean in preparation for school. Then, I had (and still have to til I leave) have to learn as I go and make every lesson myself. On top of that, I have freshmen which in general can be a hard class to teach behavior wise. Why they thought this was a good idea I don't know. But I struggled BAD, they just didnt and still don't respect me, even ones that like me on a personal level. I'm not intimidating, I'm a young woman with a soft voice and laughs when she's nervous so I can't just demand a quiet space. They literally laugh at me! I have to send them out of the room, call home, talk to coaches, get other people involved that they may actually listen to. I work before I go to work (wake up at 4-5) and work when I get home. I have meetings every lunch except Fridays so it's class, meeting, then 3 of my worst classes in a row. It's exhausting. This is my 2ND year!!! And for the first time I'm crying in front of the students, having full blown panic attacks where I have to walk out of the room and more. I'm physically sick. My hair is falling out. And this is with me trying to have the best attitude and put my best foot forward when I found out about the switch and no prep time. I've already talked to the union, I'm in a city so we don't have as many things in place to back us for situations like this. My only option is to leave before anything gets even worse. I really hope I can find another school that's at least 10% better than this because I think this experience has made it so I can handle a lot of things lol, but this level or worse will destroy me. There's a lot contributing to these stories, but for me the biggest one is admin. We can't control a broken system that impacts parent involvement, but schools have changed a lot in the past several years. Admin doesn't know how to discipline kids. Last year we wanted to do tardy detentions and US TEACHERS had to run it and coordinate it! We had to use our lunch to do it. They still haven't implemented school wide detentions with other staff. It's just too much for us! I think people forget that teachers are human too, and there really is only so much we can handle.

[@dalej.1751]

If you’re afraid of everything, you’re screwed.

[@dalej.1751]

If you’re afraid of everything, you’re screwed.

[@dalej.1751]

If you’re afraid of everything, you’re screwed.

[@dalej.1751]

If you’re afraid of everything, you’re screwed.

[@dalej.1751]

If you’re afraid of everything, you’re screwed.

[@halbop3370]

It sucks because the reality is that the kids need consequences in elementary school so that they dont face worse in the future. Some learn the hard way by going to jail as entitled adults.

[@amylee8969]

Yup, todays kids are in for a RUDE awakening. As an adult, they’ll have to learn the hard way that nobody is obligated to hold their hand. They will be held accountable in the real world.

[@mikensullivan]

I believe this series is very important. To read and then discuss what actually goes on in classrooms and the obstacles that teachers have to try to overcome should be a wake-up call for everyone. I had a very short term of teaching art to high school students, many with special needs. I knew my craft but was sorely unprepared for the wide-range of ideas and emotions I was exposed to from my students. If anyone thinks this is easy, they are mistaken.

[@mehmustache]

There is something wrong with whats happening with our society and our acceptance of behavioral tolerance. At my school, this year alone, we have experienced unprovoked biting, urinating in classrooms/ hallways to feces spread on bathroom stalls. This is a regular public school, our SPED students do not have access to these areas. These are every day kiddos who are going to be able to vote very soon commiting these acts. 10 years and I have never seen anything like this.

[@anastazjamalczyk7683]

Horrifying ..

[@genzi78514]

Weak people with no values, vote for strong people with twisted values.

[@sbielec30]

Omg! I had a urinator once! She would just urinate all over whenever she didn’t want to do something. Like fire drills.. pee. Going to specials… pee. I would have to evacuate the classroom for custodial staff to enter and clean before we could go back in. Talk about lost time in learning! It was not a medical condition or anything even close with this urinator. It was simply to get out of following instructions.

[@XXLSSBBW]

@@sbielec30 Imagine when she gets into the working world. Her boss tells her to do something she just pees all over the floor. She'll be fired in 3 seconds. Her next job will be begging on the streets. No one gives her any money she'll just pee

[@XXLSSBBW]

@@sbielec30 Imagine what she's gonna be like when she gets a job. Boss/supervisor/manager: I need you to get this order ready for shipping or for the customer. The Urinator: I DON'T WANT TO! *proceeds to pee on the floor.* YOU'RE FIRED! Pee's again.

[@joshdominguez6324]

Speaking of CaspriSun, as a 90s kid I always wished they were bigger. Also, I agree. There should be a ZERO TOLERANCE policy with serious offenses such as threats. We need to value our teachers like gold. They do more than what is required. I was blessed to have several teacher that had a positive impact on me with their dedication and encouragement.

[@claudiamcnal187]

Counseling g should be part of this student who causes big problems. Specially if it still escalating! Parents should then pay for good counseling for their family n use their own $$$. S hos cannot be everything to every child.

[@daintykeisha9787]

As a mother who had great teachers I appreciate you all. My son knows not to mess around in school. He knows he’s not there for comedy he’s there to learn and to be respectful and he is. But he knows……. I will EMBARRASS HIM if he is disrespectful and embarrasses me and his dad. We play no games! Love y’all.

[@roxanne1092]

When I was in first grade way back in 1982. My bus driver on the last day of school stopped at the grocery store to buy popsicles for all of us kids,while we all waited patiently on the bus. This was in a very small town.❤❤

[@heidikickhouse-]

Today, the driver would need a signed parent permission slip, a doctor's note saying sugar and red dye's not fatal and watch out that no one uses the sticks to Mutiny and poke out his eye.

[@amylee8969]

Wow things have changed 😶. As a teacher, we have to be mindful during pizza parties b/c of allergies.

[@melaniemeza5849]

Omg! This show is making me hit the panic button too much.

[@aaliyhafennimore9942]

32:52 As a teacher, that is the reason I will NEVER leave my drink unattended. If my drink was out of my sight, its contaminated and its getting tossed!

[@ohwow3738]

When I was a student I had the same thought process. You’re around strangers all day its the same rules of a party .

[@StarDustMoonRocket]

You're not an English teacher, I assume?

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

Yep. I had a student try to poison me (he thought) by putting Wite-Out in my coffee. Immediately obvious, and snother kid told me about it. Idiot. I never ate or drank (except water) during class anyway. Coffee was leftover I had not had a chance to get rid of.

[@danielbiddle5941]

Teacher and comedian who saw the Bored Teachers Casey in Gainesville, Fl. Really cool because as a teacher comedian, a lot of the other comedians act like that style of stand up isn’t successful so y’all really help legitimize what I was doing internally so THANK YOU!!!

[@mariekatherine5238]

The teacher who almost died after being shot at point blank range by a disturbed first grade boy comes to mind. I think it’s still in court, but the district said all she’s entitled to is pay for her unused sick days.

[@maritamuras8978]

Are you serious? That’s awful!

[@laglendareed8086]

Wow❤

[@Iwenttothewoods1379]

I was moved from 5th to pre k… the first day of school. Same deal with the lesson plans. And they took all my decor, class books, and supplies, etc. This has happened twice. I now take the time to write my name on everything, books, pencils, glue sticks, colored pencils, everything.

[@amandayoder2085]

You’re trusted with the color copier AND the laminator?! Haha

[@abacusnat]

Can't believe that a public school even has a color copier and a laminating machine, never mind that they allow the teachers to use those machines. Next, you'll tell me that they have sufficient amounts of copy paper.

[@XXLSSBBW]

Just out of curiosity here. Why don't teachers, nationwide, call for the BIGGEST strike to EVER hit the country? All teachers across America (and Canada as well.) plan a day when they walk off demanding action be done in regards to not just their safety, but the rest of the students who want to get an education.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

9:58 My desk was always unorganized. I had a team of good students who would help me organize it periodically. I love it! It’s not my strong point but they loved organizing.

[@Aee163]

I wouuld really love you you guys to invite preschool teachers on the show. Our job is to establish the basics for their transition to elementary school. I was a preschool teacher a short period....what we were expected to tolerate without punishment was ridiculous and a safety issue. Admins also half assed aptitude testing.

[@maritamuras8978]

Oh man, if only aptitude testing was done right along with monitoring the kids’ interactions with their peers, some of these issues would be avoided. Students deserve inclusion time, but some of them are not properly placed to the detriment of them and other children. I’m speaking as someone who has worked with children with special needs before.

[@aaronsnell1727]

I work as a sub in my district while studying elementary education. Not poison in my drink but still... I was subbing in a 4K classroom, and one of the little tykes took a drink out of my water bottle while I was taking something to the office for the co-teacher. Thankfully she saw it happen so I didn't drink after him, kids in that age group are little germ factories! Love the new guys on here, but do still miss the OG cast!

[@Dablkwid0w2008]

Amen

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

The one where they moved her grade level is very typical of unorganized, urban schools. This is why I am glad I teach high school and not elementary. This does happen at the high school level though. I hope she did not hand over her lesson plans.

[@Whereartthourome0]

I just graduated and i had a few teachers that werent great but i know how students can be and they can be atrocious i witnessed it and felt embarrassed anytime they would but you speak out you get bullied relentlessly school is rough and i wish teachers got the support they need in every way id love to talk with you guys

[@ronwashington1013]

Love the show. Can't wait to share my story. You will crack ALL the way up. Thank you. This is good therapy for me.

[@laurieanne3007]

Thank you so much for mentioning the subs and the wages. I'm my state, you need a Bachelor's degree to be a sub, yet most places are not paying a Bachelor's degree wage. In some cases it's not even a LIVING wage. (one district pays $90 a day. Ninety. Dollars.)

[@robinrainmaker7232]

Subbing is not meant to be a job where you get a living wage.

[@Da_bear-ij9gm]

@@robinrainmaker7232why should any job exist that cannot allow someone to live while they labor for you? How is someone supposed to do this job well if they can’t afford food and rent?

[@robinrainmaker7232]

There are many jobs not meant to be a living wage. Fast food at one time…those were part time, learn how to be an employee jobs…wages were raised, prices went up, people stopped buying, stores closed. Basic economics. Sorry. Not every job meant to be a full living. Get a roommate, live with parents et al. Real estate is another topic. Once most working Americans could rent or own something…not now. Just investors.@@Da_bear-ij9gm

[@robinrainmaker7232]

Millions of part time jobs exist. Just having one, but no other is not meant to provide a full time living. Two or three part time jobs might provide that. Subbing is part time. Summers and a lot of holidays off.@@Da_bear-ij9gm

[@pistoffpussycat5778]

​@@robinrainmaker7232WHY not? Subs are teachers too. Shows how little you value educators

[@ejo4squared01]

I got docked on my observation once because I didn’t decorate enough. ….? Crazy.

[@ElinWinblad]

As someone with adhd I’m glad I went through school with non decorative classrooms outside generic boring posters . I would not have been able to pay attention if it was clustered with items/colors. Decor doesn’t make a good teacher

[@amylee8969]

I did too actually. I had cutesy things on the wall here and there, but I guess when wanted things that aligned with my intervention group. Like overall observation was satisfactory as my lesson was good. My thing is, it would be nice if the admin communicated their expectations at the beginning of the year to prepare for observation. Had this been done, i would’ve decorated the “right” way too.

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

I absolutely believe all these stories! I have experienced very similar instances of all of them. Guy on the end is now talking about middle schoolers deliberately trying to make a teacher cry; that is so true. I taught high school and most of my students had been together all through middle school and loved to tell me about teachers they got fired or forced to quit. They were proud of it.

[@j.d.waterhouse4197]

I made it through to retirement, but sometimes I think quitting would have been better for me. My 13th year I had a terrible bunch of kids and developed insomnia which led to anxiety problems which never fully went away.

[@melanyxace]

Great conversations happening here!

[@jennyhammond9261]

I got moved classes two weeks AFTER school started. I was so stressed that I couldn't sleep for about a month. (from stress alone, not because of needed to redo everything) They kept telling me to just take it day by day and just put together whatever I could to survive, as if what I put together didn't need to flow together for the kids to understand.

[@lindalichtenstein8163]

I loved your podcast. I wanted to know if any of your guys are still teachers. You had so many great stories! I was first in a preschool classroom in the late 80s. Took time to raise my kids and I substitute taught. Now Im back in Preschool and things have really changed. Thanks for the great stories.

[@audreyyates2688]

I used to teach ESL to kids who came from Spain every July. I planned the lesson plans for me and other teachers for the morning, and preplanned excursions to museums, beaches, and more, months in advance. I did this for seven years. The owner of the non-profit who managed it sided with the whiny teenagers who didn’t want to do the excursion of the day more often than not. These were kids who never heard the word “no”. They tried to light each other on fire, they were kicked out of parks and off of beaches. Finally, one day, I told her that was it after she sided with them. I never went back nor even called her since. And I planned the whole program. It’s been 11 years.

[@Calcifurr]

Here’s my story: I got hired as an intern teacher halfway through the year. The classroom was infested with rat droppings and old classroom books and materials. I spent $700-1000 cleaning the classroom and making it a safe, clean, and a welcoming environment. I quit after 2.5 months of working, because the behaviors were so horrendous. I did not have admin support and was told by other teachers to expect NOT to teach. The only way they got through the school year was by babysitting and forcing students to be quiet and be on their laptops all day. It was the worst experience I’ve ever had in a job, even worse than a fast food job.

[@merjo82]

I think it's cool that they're gonna have a rotating cast. There are a TON of awesome, funny teachers out there that deserve recognition. I think this is a great concept 😊

[@byeteaching]

Your video provides valuable guidance and encouragement. Keep up the excellent work!

[@vinnieloverme5845]

Did you know that music teachers in NYC can legally have up to 53 students per class in a DOE school with only one teacher in the room?

[@panther782]

That is insanity.

[@KathrynTanner-t8f]

I do appreciate you guys publicizing these stories. I am so grateful I made it to retirement in more or less one piece. These stories are absolutely true. Why in the world are any teachers left?

[@gkauto1959]

I taught school for over 30 years, middle in south central LA and even though the kids did act up, they do it to test your reaction, see what you'll do. I saw the mistake of over reacting to kids just being rowdy and letting off steam which is where most of the awful behavior is coming from so I threw out everything the district said about discipline and decided to teach science by bringing in my automotive repair skills and taught chemistry through how gasoline burns and powers vehicles, physics through performance cars accelerating faster than other cars and detailing common mods. For labs I let the kids use old tools to dissasemble junk alternators and reassembling them, then having other kids grade their work. It was such a different reality based teaching model they ate it up and they made me a mentor teacher and dept chair. I made grading competitive, and assigned kids on a rotating basis as their graders, so the kids had to perform for their classmates. My students loved how I related to them, like an older brother not an authority figure. I also gave them small perks, little favors like calling their parents in front of the class complimenting them to their parents and praising their accomplishments. So my kids understood how science really works through using artifacts, tried hard to beat out their classmates when they graded each other and liked seeing me around since they knew I always brought them treats and their parents wound up loving calls from me. So when the odd idiot tried making problems for me they ran into a hornets nest of other kids stupid shaming them. Discipline problems come when the kids hate boring subjects taught by robots chanting the party line. So of course the other teachers and administrators hated me and made my life hell any way they could since I refused to reveal my methods knowing they would twist it up trying to cover for their inadequate classroom control as they had no common sense! I finally retired after 34 years of this not because the kids ran me out but jealous co workers induced me to look somewhere else, so I did. The common core is a big waste and the testing culture killed the joy of learning, thats your real issue, but nobody will bring it up since the kids hate robots (boring teachers chanting common core horse shit) and those robots secretly hate themselves! but they cant help themselves so its game over until they wake up and smell the coffee, scrap the common core and go back to common sense basics!

[@monizalez]

This is so awesome that you were able to impact the students the way that you did! Having great teachers are a rarity these days. But also, don’t you think that sharing your “secrets” with other staff members would have benefitted them in being better teachers? There could have been more camaraderie between staff… idk just a thought. I obviously don’t know the details of your overall experience there. If I was doing something that was clearly benefitting the students in my class, I’d want to share those ideas with other teachers and let them figure out if it works for them. Also, harsh discipline never works with children who already experience hostility at home, but kids still need to learn discipline and self-responsibility. The way schools are ran now are way too lenient and it’s gotten out of control.

[@gkauto1959]

@@monizalez My methods would not work with other teachers since they never worked on cars nor understood how to use tools and their applications on cars. But it goes further than that, other teachers ask and want to know what your methods are not because they want to be better teachers, they want your inner secrets to tell the principal or vice principal what you are doing and cast you in a bad light. I had only to go through that experience once before learning never to trust other teachers again, its a dog eat dog world out there, and other teachers can be like little kids, and will tell on you if they think it will put them in a good light. So I learned early on to look out for no 1, and not be so eager to share my methods.

[@mirandasmith6856]

⁠​⁠@@monizalezduplication & imitation never works when trying to copy someone’s personal touch and unique approach. Everything about this story was from a unique point of view & how it was incorporated into teaching, not something to be copied & pasted.

[@BlueStarFire70]

Our union protects us from that last-minute change BS. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen, but technically we can refuse. Hell no to giving all of my plans to another teacher. F that!

[@maryschaefer5691]

I've been thinking about the fact that we get the KZbin videos about how rude people are to even judges. I wonder that you could argue the schools are helping to perpetuate this rudeness even when they technically become an adult!

[@Sageddegas]

People definitely aren’t as worried about how they look if they think they can get their way or protect their ego. My boss is 40 and he’s definitely the most rude person I’ve ever met and he is very proud of it 💀

[@AbeBrown-r3q]

I quit because my admin told me they would support me with my graduate school clinical hours and they started complaining about it when they came up with the schedule no regrets

[@michellebatchelder]

Raising my hand!!!! I left after the year was over

[@SharonFitzgerald]

Love this podcast! I went to the Dollar Store and spent about $50 on Halloween and about $60 the holidays. I also brought in a 7ft Christmas tree. 🎄

[@jaminschmitt]

Had a student who was caught bring knives to school but ended up in a classroom with just me looking after him with two other EBD students and a teacher who was very lax. Let’s just say a pair of scissors became a weapon and the student being threatened took this boy down in seconds. A war zone. This student was finally removed from the school. This policy where Admin wait until a student is threatened before considering removing them is sheer madness.

[@DeChengscientificeducati-fs1wg]

What a real conversation

[@kayla123ism]

47:17 that’s a good idea! My school acted like once it left the lunch line it was poisoned. Students weren’t even allowed to share their food.

[@caramel4jamesdean]

The bus driver story was too relatable. My dad was a school bus driver. An elementary school student stabbed him in the neck with a pencil WHILE he was driving. This was before the district started having a secondary non-driving adult as a monitor (which honestly should be more of a thing...). He has since worked as a city bus driver for the last decade...been in situations with adult drug addicts and people high beyond heaven and still hasn't experienced anything as physically terrifying as that moment.

[@christinecrow4251]

In between my first and second year, I spent my entire summer revamping my lesson plans and modifying them for ELL and Spec. Ed. There was a teacher who was a year from retirement. He was that teacher, you know the one that always showed movies. He had received multiple warnings and was about to let go. I don't think he had ever actually taught. He saw me at school doing all this planning and requested my classes and was given them. I was told to give all my lesson plans to him and moved to a different class the first week ofschool.

[@jamiegoldsby1163]

When you’re talking about the teacher who got bullied, I can only imagine! As a student, I was bullied literally every single day of middle and high school because I was fat. The way admin handled it, when I actually told once? They called me, and the person bullying me, into a room together with the principal. He asked what was going on, I explained, then basically was like “you can’t do that” and sent us to class. Later when we had class together, him and the other boys he sat with, started making fun of me for “tattling.” You know when admin won’t even help a student, they sure as hell aren’t going to help a teacher getting bullied. I think bullying is the biggest issue in schools today.

[@318rjj]

My mom always sided with the teachers because she know her child. Everything the teacher said I did was true, but I lied.

[@amylee8969]

Lmfao so now a bag of chips and capri sun is the magic solution to everyone’s problem 🤣🤣🤣

[@jennyjones1770]

I would be like I have not done my lesson plans yet. They would have to take me to court to get those babies…go get rocked…

[@shake_shells11]

Thank you guys for all the valuable information about lives of teachers. I ll rethink if I want to be a teacher in the future

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

i agree with being held accountable, however i dont always agree with siding with the teacher, because there are plenty of teachers or other people who started or caused the issue, so dont just automatically side with the student, or the teacher, gather all the info from all sides, ten make that judgment, there has to be a middle ground,we dont need to punish a student who didnt do anything wrong just because the teacher or someone accused him or her, and we also dont need to always take the students side because '' hes your little angel'', no. find out from BOTH parties, what happened. also find out what was going on, and if the issue was a result of a teacher or someone not intervening before things escalated to that boiling point.

[@cynthiaconner8601]

I quit after a little angel kicked a flaming trashcan at my head. It hit the chalkboard. The others blocked the doors so help couldnt get inside the classroom. The students told one of my 17 year old 7th grade student to kill me. These little angels had pictures of my kids,my apartment. They knew were we lived. They knew the daycare my baby was attending. After I quit, one if my 17 year old 7th graders r'ed one of my 12 yo old students in the stairwell. I'd been gone for months and they questioned me. WtF. Now when I turn on the TV, I see my students. (Murder/Rape/Drugs/theft).

[@maritamuras8978]

What was a 17 year old doing in a 7th grade classroom!?! Clearly, they had a learning disability and should have been put on a plan. 12 year olds and dangerous 17 year olds should NEVER be together! I’m so sorry you had to deal with that. It makes me wonder what has to happen for someone to do anything and who is running the show. It seems like something bigger and sinister is running the the show behind the scenes because why are all of these administrators just allowing this? Are their paychecks/jobs being threatened if they do something?

[@xpeacemaster]

@@maritamuras8978my buddy was 16 1/2 in the 8th grade and drove to school. We went to one of the best charter schools in California.

[@Shannonbarnesdr1]

jay yoder's voice sound so much like Patton Oswald !

[@Savage11-b7e]

Yes, I agree that children whose parents teach them, I will always protect you and there's no consequences for lying,bully tactics and the children will take it into adulthood attitude.

[@bevie8089]

I have so much respect for teachers. Granted, some are overly tough or lazy and boring - but 90% of teachers are wonderful and caring. I wish parents would remember that teachers are professionals with degrees. If you get a complaint about your child, get on your child! When your child is unruly the entire class suffers! Take your blinders off, your child is not sweet as pie so give the teacher some credit!

[@Katyyates12]

Whyyyyy. I neeeeed Gabe, Bri, Lauren, and Tel back. I cannot go any longer with out them. I used to love this channel but now I do not. They change everything like the profile pic, the intro, the background, and the cast.

[@scottibrown3274]

My mom graduated from high school in 1983, and even teachers back then weren’t being respected and got the short end of the stick. There was this one English teacher who failed one of the football players and she had the student, the coach, and I think even the principal asked if she could bump the students grade or give extra credit because he was one of the good players; the teacher declined. So there was a time, where the teachers car got egged, someone put sugar in her gas tank, and the teachers middle school age daughter was being followed home and taunted by some of the football players because her mom wouldn’t pass the student. I would have to ask my mom if the teacher ended up either giving the student extra credit or stuck to her guns.

[@davidarmstrong1617]

This was me. I worked like crazy to get through college later in life, then get certified, then jumped through hoops to get into a reputable school district. And I wound up teaching for about three weeks before I had to Nope right out of that. Kids today are TERRIBLE!! I hate to be that guy, but "when I was their age" if I was playing with toys in class, the teacher grabbed it and I didn't get it back till the end of the school year. Nowadays, they've all got a phone, they're all playing games or looking up porn in class, and you can't touch it. You are actually not allowed to take their phone! Once I realized that it was me against the students AND the administration, I was done.

[@alexking6058]

23:35 "don't yuck someone's yum"?!? That's quite a charitable way to describe disgusting animal cruelty.

[@jennifercochrane181]

My school doesn’t have a color copier or a laminating machine. We have to pay for anything we need.

[@marcmeinzer8859]

Any time you’re teaching it’s going to be crazy time. The theme song for teachers ought to be Crazy Train by Ozzie Osbourne. I worked in education for 8 years covering everything from the sublime to the ridiculous or suburban public substituting, parochial school both Catholic and Lutheran, ghetto public high school regular contract, and GED tutoring at both Job Corps and a large urban community college. Then finally I tried being a Benedictine postulant at one of their high schools while living in this huge cloister with 75 monks. During this period I was either assaulted or threatened with violence including death threats at least ten times. The bottom line is that the administrators blame everything on the teachers, there is no disciplinary control of the kids, and half of the kids are too stupid to do the assigned work owing to the widespread corrupt practice of social promotion. In essence, social promotion is the delusion that learning is a group activity rather than what it actually is, which is a personal accomplishment. I quit teaching to ship out with the merchant marine for 8 years being an ex submariner with a mariner’s document issued by the Coast Guard, serving in the Gulf War on military sealift ships in the Middle East. Then finally I became a barber for 20 years. Barbering is a far more dignified and reasonable job than teaching even if it does only require an eighth grade education to gain entry to barber college. At least as a barber you’re self employed and can refuse service to crazy people.

[@garyloss2878]

One of the best feelings ever is getting a haircut. Honestly, it almost always puts me in a good mood, so we need good barbers!

[@marcmeinzer8859]

There really aren’t that many barbers. When I became a barber in 1995 there were only about 85,000 barbers in the entire country.@@garyloss2878

[@Guardmuscian2013]

13:45 I can relate to that story so much....

[@mosaicowlstudios]

"These C's will get you A's", in that ultra-deep raspy voice 😅😂🤣☠️

[@emilyann4549]

The way yall just went by the candy cane shank like it was nothin 😮😂

[@jamesdeagle]

Excellent presentation of sad realities, unfortunately ... James Deagle

[@angelaqiy]

Thanks!

[@Inkironnrum]

Parents who are not teaching accountability to their children, are unknowingly developing narcissistic traits that will worsen when they enter adulthood.

[@EarfMuva]

I knew i wasn’t trippin when i waited on you tonight 😭😭 like duh i know who you are lmaooo

[@mysadlife1771]

I would say no pets in the classroom unless it’s a really really good class. Get a plant instead maybe.

[@amylee8969]

True. B/c whose going to feed and care for the pet on weekends and holiday breaks?

[@whitway12]

When I was in high school (about 21 years ago) yikes.. there were ‘bad kids’, disruptive, late, rude, etc, and I remember that though some other kids would laugh, they were largely looked upon as just that - the bad kids. We would think they weren’t very smart, we would think they were trouble to be around, we didn’t want to be like them. Some portion of society has simply forgot about shame, like feeling embarrassed, or feeling guilty, having a conscience - of course you don’t want to hold onto those feelings for long but they do discourage a person from doing the same thing that made them feel that way again. I think some children are being raised to believe that they are never meant to feel uncomfortable, that they can say or do whatever they want without consequence, and though a parents children are typically ‘THE most special’ thing in their world to the parent, somehow it’s being translated to THE most special PERSON in the world. I have great respect for all teachers, I cannot fathom having to deal with what many deal with on an average day.

[@conniejohnson1552]

Behavior Interventionist in SpEd. Retiring in May. You bet I'm counting the days.

[@shirleenapachito5451]

It’s good to know that not all teachers have that creative vision on decorating the classroom because I’m on my second year and still I don’t have it 😂

[@madelinekassab1683]

Not even a year into my freshman year, my 8th science teacher was poisoned very similar. Was he a nice teacher, not really, but that doesn’t make it right to do that. He and his wife had just had a baby with that time too and he had to get stomach surgery. I’m 27 now and a teacher at private school so I am nervous about stuff like this everyday. And I work at what some that don’t know would call a “hippie” school( Montessori)

[@lizgreer6888]

This was such a good episode! You all are funny and so relatable

[@jamiegoldsby1163]

Any time you’re reading these about teachers getting disrespected by students, you can see how pissed Jay’s face gets. Too bad more people don’t teach their children that words hurt.

[@KazeShikamaru]

The bus driver's letter is fucking savage.

[@carolbiegungooding]

Thanks for helping reduce the stress by finding a funny in some sad situations. This struggle is real...We need better adult-to-student ratios to help with the behaviors- How can a bus driver supervise 70 kids and safely manage the vehicle- add more adults?? Something has to give.

[@arkboi2145]

Hi. Thank you for the video. I fully believe everything these teachers are saying and I completely understand why educators are leaving in droves. Education is not a great sector to work in anymore. I've worked for a large R2 State University in Georgia for the last 10 years. Granted, no, it's not K-12, and Higher Education doesn't face many of the same issues K-12 does. However, I can attest to many of the issues these Texas teachers have. 1) [PAY]: Educators everywhere are underpaid, understaffed, underappreciated, and severely overworked. I'm one of the few who has the "lucky" role of carrying a staff, faculty, and admin hat. My MPA and 10 years of knowledge, skills, and experience grant me a "comfy" salary of $50,000 annually. And yet, my friend from high school who dropped out of college makes $75,000 a year being a night manager at Quicktrip. The interesting fact is that most educators could make double what they make if they switched careers and worked in the corporate world. 2) [RETIREMENT]: The Teacher's Retirement System (TRS) - 401(a) is kinda b.s., but at least it's something. To even be considered, you must put in a minimum of 10 years of full-time benefited service to be eligible for retirement pay. But even that isn't really worth it as at 10 years of service, you'll only earn 20% of your highest earning salary every year until your death. You only get the full 100% of your highest earning salary if you put in 45 years. You can't even begin to get your TRS money until you hit age 67. Lastly, most schools/colleges/universities don't do anything special for their retirees. At my university, retirees get a cheap pin, a $5 gift card to our university bookstore, and a paper certificate. That's it. 3) [BUREAUCRACY]: The Education System in the United States is tightly controlled and moderated. The simple truth of the matter is that educators, or Subject Matter Experts (SMEs), have very little say or power over how they run their classes and what they are allowed to teach. It's a common joke that oftentimes in education, you need to get approval to get approval for an approval. In the same light, in education, we often have committees for committees on creating committees. Education is extremely rigid and archaic. What I mean by that, is that you, as an individual or an educator, could have numerous doctorate degrees, have 35+ years of experience under your belt, you could have written and published numerous research articles and books, and you could also be widely considered the defacto expert in your field. It doesn't mean shit. If it's not explicitly in your job description, or it's not in your title for which you were hired for, the education system doesn't care. You are ONLY to do the assigned tasks and provide knowledge and insight for the job you were assigned. This is why it's common knowledge in education that you should NEVER take a step backward and accept any position of lesser or equal responsibility/authority/work than your current one. 4) [THE STUDENTS]: I'm not in K-12, so I can't speak on what Generation Alpha students are like. However, as a Millennial (Generation Y), I can already see generational differences and issues with the Zoomers (Generation Z) who are in college/university right now. These students tend to be less social and interpersonal with people. I have often noticed avoidant and anti-social behaviors. In public places and classrooms, I have often noticed that students will leave lights on, never push in their chairs, never put back educational materials and resources, will often leave trash on their desks or on the floors, and will deface or destroy university property. The students either don't know how to read, or they lack the attention span to read. There have been frequent times when students have asked general or directional questions about topics for which we had clearly visible and labeled signage (Ex: Student: "How do I connect to Wi-Fi?" ... * Staff Member stares at the student and then quietly looks over to the wall on their immediate right and points to the large sign on the wall that reads: "How to Connect to Campus Wi-Fi" *). With Student Assistants/Student Workers, I and my fellow colleagues have often noted that these students don't care about professionalism or quality -- they show up to work in a t-shirt shorts, and flip-flops and simply do the absolutely minimum required of them to get the job done in whatever way requires the least amount of effort and work. ^^^ The four (4) topics I detailed are merely a few of the issues currently going on in the Education System.

[@ElinWinblad]

Get rid of the union and teachers can negotiate their own pay based on experience

[@lilyblue5583]

Schools need behavior therapists on school grounds. No more capri sun vacations at the front office! I spent thousands on my class this year already and it’s only November! I’m expected to provide a cooking class, art supplies, snacks and reinforcers for my students in a self contained classroom. On top of all this, I get it hit and kicked all day long because it’s a manifestation of their disability. Gen ed is Cush in comparison. Contemplating quitting every hour in the day!

[@xpeacemaster]

They do but the pay is terrible lmao

[@tiarrajohnson8500]

I actually liked decorating my home room as a student in high school.

[@amylee8969]

I have a few decorations in my room to make to look like a welcoming typical room. I especially like putting up a few small Halloween and Christmas decorations. But I’m a afraid to go all out as I’m forced to share my room with the after school program. Every decoration is stuff I can put on the walls and board. I don’t have much movable loose things.

[@Aluapay]

My friend taught in Juvenile Hall. She never felt so safe. Then again there were gun carrying guards in the classroom and if the students acted out they were stuck back in their cells, no tv, no nothing....just saying.

[@laglendareed8086]

Yes and that is what these kids been discipline ❤

[@otisblue30]

I was with u until u brought the admin in as far as the respect. She took the words out of my mouth about admin that doesn't remove themselves from the classroom experience as they transition to admin deserving the respect. I haven't had many admin that have stayed grounded. Most lose their mind after going into leadership. Also, if they r removed from the classroom, they should lean on, support, & respect their teachers for academic decisions & leadership bcuz the kids change & education changes quite a bit in 2 to 3 yrs. The teachers actually doing it know much more than the admin about being in the classroom. Respect that & support them with what they need.

[@JFalcony]

I quit public school and now I teach music at a university and play 12 concerts a month. Im starting to think that it might be a good time to get back into teaching if it keeps getting worse. The bar will be so low that anyone that can regulate their own emotions and a simple majority (51%) of ones thoughts and actions are common sense, that person will be heads above the average person in that environment. People will be begging for good, sensible people to teach, but they all left because they had good sense!

[@pattydemont6759]

Ingesting hand sanitizer is no joke! I worked at a hospital where a young 20-something year old stuck his head under the wall mounted hand sanitizer and drank some as an attempt to end himself. He ended up in ICU for about a week in bad condition, we weren't sure if he would make it or not. He finally got well enough to be moved to a regular hospital room. As soon as he was able to get up without help, he did it AGAIN. This time he didn't make it. I remember the people from transplant coming to harvest his organs. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it was awful. These kids probably have no idea what can really happen!

[@jabberwocky3688]

This man said "EVERCLEAR?"

[@P2020pudding1]

A cholo child broke my labtop and it took me threatening the school district to sue to be reimbursed.

[@bunny12989]

Admin don't support, they act like it's a bran new movie. Admin acts like they never taught in the classroom. One principle told a teacher that the parents are are clients. The teaching profession is the only profession where you have to be mom, Dad, Nurse, Physiologist, Correction Officer's, and Police. All this while mom sits at home and dictates what Teachers should and shouldn't do to their kids. Can't wait to get out.

[@TeacherKellyTag]

36:15 They’re jealous that they haven’t left yet.