Diving Into Pizza Tower's Old Demos

[@Self-Referential]

3:07 "I don't even know how this song goes" *Immediately belts out perfect recreation of the flute* Only at Grayfruit's

[@honk_the_troll_man849]

lol

[@GuitarOfTime0116]

After the whole fiasco about Portal and Half-Life's shared universe. I don't trust Gray when he says he doesn't know something.

[@astronights]

Reminds me of an Isaac clip in Twitch Scraps where a chat member asks what Grayfruit thinks of Pokemon music and he immediately breaks out into a recreation of one of the city themes from Pokemon Black(?)

[@peppinospagoots]

lol

[@switchimicheal_]

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[@solidvoid]

i was one of the winners of the noise hardoween art contest (i made the toilet, pizza torture rack, coffin, and tombstone). i remember back in highschool i considered it my greatest achievement in life. what i find funny about it is that several popular pizza tower mods have reused my props in the years since making it by far the most widely known art i've ever made so in a way it still is my greatest achievement.

[@curlybrace4984]

Dude that's so cool.

[@erfaniom9576]

show me a more iconic duo than minors and pizza tower

[@s0try2]

Awesome!

[@classicjimiy]

@@erfaniom9576minors and friday night funkin

[@Ronicalter]

@@erfaniom9576what

[@Poondaedalin]

31:40 - Fun fact: These four taunts are all references to YTPMVs by iteachvader! Snick in a pot is a reference to Hedgehog Stew, Snick in a submarine is a reference to Getaway Submarine, Snick with a parachute is a reference to Skydiving, and Snick in a racecar is a reference to Win the Race!

[@kmaximum8857]

I'm glad someone noticed it as well, these are cool references

[@Charmlie.R]

The funny is that that is how I found iteachvader, and I loved the rest of their stuff haha

[@thebandanadee8265]

Off of an obelisk! I caught the hedgehog stew one, but not the others. Good eye

[@beaniewearingbastard3125]

There's also Snick on a go-kart, referecing Win The Race.

[@Ambipie]

Where are you taking me? Beats me!

[@MarkusIfquil]

I'm convinced at this point that at random points some random ghost of an insanely talented musician just possesses grayfruit for a minute and belches out the most insane beats ever, the man's a living synthesizer

[@Kummahndough]

Grayfruit went from not knowing this game to becoming an omegafan and I'm here for it

[@runktheruler]

This is the 8th time this cycle has happened

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

@@runktheruleri know rhythm heaven and street fighter(?) what else is there

[@aeteno703]

@@runktheruler all of this has happened before, and will happen again

[@martinszymanski2607]

i wanna know too now 8 sounds like a lot@@yggdrasilsaltar

[@whoisanarnb]

Like thattravguy and doom

[@poppyseeds3290]

The fucking grinch’s ultimatum section made me shit myself. It’s one of my favorite videos on the whole platform and it was genuinely a huge shock to see it referenced here of all places.

[@morgue1484]

give me redpilotsun or give me death

[@PorkpieJohnny]

​@@morgue1484those are you two options, so choose wisely

[@guyrocketram9698]

13:15 the fact that mcpig seemed disgusted by the idea of the grinch demo being here is funny because a friend playing the grinch demo in vc was my first exposure to pizza tower. i was familiar with it before it was released and became huge, so a lot of these beta elements which you find really weird look more "right" to me (even if i think the final version of most of them look much much better lol.)

[@taraktaras7327]

was it mcpig?

[@treo640]

@@taraktaras7327 Probably, there's like a 25% chance of it

[@T_S_M_G]

​@@taraktaras7327"(dev showed up in chat)"

[@milesfoster8190]

@@taraktaras7327 Mcpig is one of the developers of Pizza Tower.

[@taraktaras7327]

@@milesfoster8190 One of the four

[@The_schboinger]

32:39 as a death grips fan this actually sounds pretty good

[@eyemotif]

as a non death grips fan i agree

[@nicolasrededeo805]

Funny to note that the blue outfit in the final game is called "Sage Blue", and is unlocked for beating all the levels in the first floor under an hour, which are all the levels featured in the SAGE demo

[@viewing845]

Apart from John gutter

[@Soufonsynth]

the last room in snick's challenge uses john gutter's tiles, it counts

[@lilFluffy_Rexiane]

@@viewing845 I think it was planned to be in that demo as I heard the files for the level Entrance was in that build. If so my guess is, is that mcpig ran out of time and couldn't add it.

[@viewing845]

yea it was in the files and could be played with scripting @@lilFluffy_Rexiane

[@viewing845]

that kinda makes no sense but john gutte r was in the files@@Soufonsynth

[@vasas2.025]

Fun fact: John was meant to be the original villain of the game He would trick us into feeding him with the toppins to make him stronger At the end of the game, he would reveal his true form, that being the Pizza Tower itself and his boss battle would be similar to the boss fight with Rudy the Clown

[@Comeonfhqwhgads95]

That would be cool but I’m glad they didn’t go with it, I like john

[@mysticmemer4887]

He really became the pizza tower

[@SonicToons383]

Jeez pizza tower was really gonna be like Wario land with the amount of references added to it back in the day

[@GammaGamer711]

Instantly clicked, can't get enough of Grayfruit Pizza Tower vids

[@vapor404]

Can't get enough pizza tower by itself I need one more box

[@FioreFire]

Quite inspiring to see the timeline of devs discovering exactly what's fun about their game and makes it stand out, then further developing on that until they come up with something special

[@RadJordy]

19:27 Peppino standing there while not holding anything gives those vibes of when you fail to catch something and you just have to stand there, prepared to catch something that's already crashed to the ground.

[@13deadbugs]

20:28 i love how he casually ignored peppino VOMITING

[@hami5655]

I thought I was the only one who spotted that 😅

[@connordarvall8482]

Because the dev cycle of this game was so transparent, you can pretty much see every idea that ended up on the cutting room floor: 5:58 Originally, The Noise was meant to be the main antagonist. 19:58 Pizza time was meant to corrupt the levels. It was even meant to have an original escape track for every level alongside a B-section track for each level (which still exists for Pizzascape, The Ancient Cheese, Gnome Forest by technicality and The Pig City) but that all proved to be too much work for the composers. 20:37 Also, there were plans for all the current bosses (except the final) to be player characters, but having unique movesets would have meant that the level design would have had to have been way looser. 28:58 there was a death scream competition with the best screams being added to the game, but the screams were deemed too annoying. 40:05 The Noise would fight an alternate version of himself called "Mr. Orange" There's a ton more in this video that grayfruit didn't pull attention to, but I don't feel like regurgitating half a wiki in a KZbin comment.

[@darksparkyshark430]

5:03 "Millions dead" I think he severely overestimates the capacity of modern aircrafts/the damages of a plane crash haha

[@RADkate]

millions dead is a vinesauce reference

[@Wack910]

i mean he crashed 3 planes so

[@numberseven4972]

30:32 LEANING NIGHTMARE, the one played during this demo, is not in the final build, but a remix of it called LEANING DREAM is in the final build, and it serves as the pause theme (you may hear the similarities)

[@_Mr.Alien_]

Leaning Dream was originally Deep-Dish 9's theme, so Leaning Nightmare was the escape theme version of it (since every level had a unique escape theme).

[@kellymountain]

​@@_Mr.Alien_no, space wasn't a thing when unique escape themes were being considered, leaning nightmare was for spooky apartment (not to be confused with mansion)

[@thenoisester]

​@@kellymountainYou're thinking of a different track. Space DID partially exist but as a very small concept it seems that didn't get far until early 2021. The track you're thinking of is Spooky Apartment Escape AKA Snick Is Coming.

[@lrgogo1517]

Leaning? Leaning into what?

[@AMnotQ]

My absolute favorite thing about Fruitman is that when he’s on a kick with a game he likes, he does absolutely everything to completion.

[@pikajade]

i love how even the first demo had the amazingly fluid and cartoony sprite animation pizza tower is known for. tour de pizza knew where their priorities were best put

[@SwankemasterSupreme]

35:22 inhuman sound.

[@gd_guy_who_does_stuff]

WAAAUUMPP

[@kirkolain]

The grinch race being basically a huge tribute to pilotredsun might be the funniest shit ive seen in a long time

[@maffoo9775]

7:53 You have permanently influenced how I say "The Noise" with how you said it in this clip and I love you for that

[@virtualdash]

Didn't expect you to make a video on these streams, but it's cool that you did. Time to watch this again because I am a Pizza Tower addict

[@Youtubeguy543]

1:29 I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS SOUND EFFECT MY ENTIRE LIFE. IT'S IN FUTURAMA, IT'S IN HALF-LIFE 2, IT'S EVERYWHERE BUT YOU CANNOT SEARCH FOR IT. HOW DID YOU FIND THIS HOLY SHIT

[@wigglaustin]

it's part of the Hollywoodedge series of sound effects, if you listen you can hear it in tons of movies and it drives me crazy

[@vargasmartin7143]

This is the type of shit i get obsessed with. So im just leaving this comment in case someone leaves a link to that sound effect

[@Youtubeguy543]

@@vargasmartin7143 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ_WnKOilptkea8 Eight seconds in

[@wigglaustin]

i found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH3QeaWPq9p6q5I @@vargasmartin7143

[@eyemotif]

theres also a specific door sound from hl2 thats burned into my brain bc of many hours on gmod, and ive heard it in so many shows and movies its insane

[@maxfecteau]

22:07 wow i didnt expect to see my own footage in a grayfruit video

[@kiricappuchin]

33:55 How the hell is Gray so good at replicating that British TTS cadence

[@Cooldude22145]

Time stamps: Intro 0:00 Early Test Build 0:21 Halloween Demo 4:40 Petter Griffin 9:39 Demo 2 10:39 Grinch Race 13:50 Golf 17:10 Watching the Grinch Race ending 22:02 SAGE 2019 22:50 Noise’s Hardoween 33:37 Peppino’s Xmas Break 35:22 End Screen 40:33

[@JuiceNexus7]

The amount of people who haven’t seen pilotredsun’s Grinch’s Ultimatum is surprising

[@ibagiousvii4458]

I've seen that video all over the place and I could never find the actual video or name. Thanks for actually naming it lmao

[@skrandelg]

It’s suprising to see a entire demo themed around it. It’s my Christmas tradition ever since it came out

[@Zugrwow]

This straight up sounds like an ironic jab at people who think their experiences are universal

[@JuiceNexus7]

@@Zugrwow bruh, only on the internet do people misconstrue surprise as prejudice. It’s KZbin, there’s weird stuff, and people love it, just trying to bring attention to other creators

[@felix56p]

33:02 i love how snick has sonic's impatient idle animation

[@Star.6739]

6:00 Fun Fact! Pillar John was actually the main villian, he would eat the Toppins to become stronger and stronger, and at the end of the game you would fight him

[@Don_Monstro]

Grayfruit is like a crack dealer, except the only thing he's making me crack is a smile. Now listen, I know what you're gonna say, "dude, that's not even fucking close to being a real joke" but please, you have to agree with me, there's something there, it's so close to being funny.

[@BennyWasNotFound]

With this logic, Lark is a friendly addiction

[@julianzarco6403]

I respect the commitment

[@sporg5437]

Your Pizza Tower content gives off a lot of pre-full release PT fandom vibes, and that’s something that’s been missing from the community for a while now, thank you.

[@amberspacedf1792]

''Just millions dead! (laughs hysterically)'' classic grayfruit!

[@KimiOmega]

Fun piece of trivia, the escape theme from Snick's challenge is called "Leaning Nightmare". The first 4 notes of that song are reused in the pause screen theme in the final game called "Leaning Dream"

[@NeonSonOfXenon]

I like to think that, in universe, every demo is a tower that Peppino has conquered

[@gd_guy_who_does_stuff]

apart from sage where instead of a tower it's a game expo

[@ButtonMasherReal]

@@gd_guy_who_does_stuff What is a game expo but a one-story tower?

[@gd_guy_who_does_stuff]

​@@ButtonMasherRealit doesn't look like a tower

[@colbywalsh4193]

god i could watch grayfruit deeply explore niche games until the day i die

[@moosesues8887]

He should play mr gimmick and get obsessed with the amount of niche details

[@JSterling812]

I remember one of my old friends showing me a lot of these. Like this was way before Pizza Tower was really on anyone's radar so this is all fairly nostalgic to me. Weird to say cos these are only a few years old but I was like still in high school when this was happening, and now I'm holding a full time job after a trade school graduation.

[@Vernafveik]

It's kinda funny how people complained about it taking too long for the full game to come out now that every other game on the market is being released in an unfinished state and everyone is sick of it

[@ahmadmalaki8364]

The difference between a game that used it's long years of development vs a game that lies about it taking 6 years of development like overwatch 2

[@genericname2747]

​@@ahmadmalaki8364Don't bring up that wretched game in this sacred Pizza Tower comment section

[@bigmacc4782]

This is why I sort of see sugary spire lazy, they took like the base game and repainted not really putting much effort to like how many years it took for pizza tower to come out Fun fact the “bottle” transformation from sugary spire is actually just stolen from pizza tower was they redid it (also because in the unfinished state that is of the next sugary spire demo the turn animation for the bottle transformation IS ACTUALLY JUST THE ROCKET PEPPINO ANIMATION) in conclusion this really grinds my gears

[@girlmeat-beth]

​@bigmacc4782 the alternative universe game plays like the original game. who would've thought?

[@dastardlydingus]

​@@girlmeat-beth That's no excuse for the lack of change in gameplay

[@NunofYerbizness]

The specific part of the second stream wasn't included here, but the reason Vinny's video of the Peppino's Xmas Break demo was half an hour long wasn't because he played it twice, rather he just played it once and stunk at it. He got stuck at a lot of places, retried The Noise miniboss a handful of times, and beat the level with 0 points. Considering Strongcold's harder difficulty and how Vinny had played Pizza Tower's 2018 Halloween and SAGE demos, I wouldn't put Vinny at any strong faults, though.

[@caped6453]

iirc pizza tower guy actually made snick equivalents for all the other sonic characters. it was just a fun little doodle he did and I always thought it was neat

[@BlitzoITA]

4:53 "sir, Peppino has hit the second plane"

[@littlemonkeygamez3895]

AND THE THRID

[@ros9764]

My favourite Noise taunt is the one that refrences Tom being in a giant suit in that one Tom and Jerry episode

[@Cece-Cece]

always presumed that one was a talking heads reference

[@Glory2Snowstar]

I'm making a GameMaker Studio game myself, and pogged outta my mind once I first heard that Pizza Tower was a GameMaker game! Usually people just mention Undertale or Nuclear Throne- now we've got a third star! Are these demos available for decompiling? I'd love to just kinda dig through it and see how they did certain things.

[@Roverdrive_X]

Don't forget AM2R too!

[@tokenslol]

there's a server with decompilations that's also a database for mods zAMAXbvxB8 is the invite link if you'd like to join

[@henrynelson9301]

Also both Hotline Miamis

[@GamerScottYT]

2:56 kinda funny to see that like frog move and then think about fake peppino when he does the frog jump... wonder if thats where that came from :) 21:05 also was crazy seeing that animation brought back in the noise update heh

[@GiorgioAnton-cf8cf]

36:14 Fake Peppino: Excuse me Sir, Can You Spare Me some money please?

[@ZesTofthelemon]

31:40 All of Snick's taunts are references to YTPMVs by iteachvader: Hedgehog Stew, Getaway Submarine and Skydiving

[@Thebdippy]

There are a wide variety of different bell peppers but the kind you buy at the store are, in fact, from the same plant at different stages of ripeness.

[@epiccodemage2947]

The pale colors of some of these demos look like the colors you see in the pilot episode of a TV show

[@T0PH3T.]

"I don't even know how this song go-" (Perfectly recreates the song)

[@PwrMiner]

Glad to see more pizza tower, I know it's been tough since the incident

[@beaniewearingbastard3125]

pardon my naivity but... *what incident?*

[@catmacopter8545]

​@@beaniewearingbastard3125 grayfruit died

[@beaniewearingbastard3125]

@@catmacopter8545 oh, i see.

[@cactuscoyote9881]

What incident?

[@Cece-Cece]

huh?

[@btfamily3842]

Fun fact: just like the Grinch Race build being an early version of Oregano Desert, the level featured in the Peppino’s Xmas Break build is called Strongcold and was an early version of Bloodsauce Dungeon!

[@gd_guy_who_does_stuff]

Peppino's Xmas Break was made after SAGE 2019, And also Strongcold rooms are separate from Bloodsauce Dungeon rooms.

[@therealflamey]

​@@gd_guy_who_does_stuffstrongcold was possibly made when bloodsauce dungeon was in development

[@burnv06]

That is literally inaccurate

[@Sarnahanfi]

green, yellow, and red bell peppers all come from the same plant species

[@olivia7782]

Wait so is it like a hydrangeas thing where differences in PH or other variables change their color, or are they like, subspecies/cultivars

[@gamingtime9716]

​Just different cultivars, same as a lot of other crops like onions

[@linzie1096]

27:25 the parry was first added in "beach and forest", as well as the breakdance, but it was an attack move then.

[@enricomonster]

The fact that the idea of The Noise being playable started all the way to the demos amazes me, I'm glad this idea was fully implemented in the new Noise update that came out a few morhs ago

[@Dravenick]

4:43 Sir, we got a code flying Italian man- MAYDAY MAYDAY WE ARE GOING DOWN. MAY DAY!

[@Dravenick]

39:10 Uh... Sir we got a- MAYDAY! MAYDAY! WE ARE GONNA DIE! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

[@lucasrhys5507]

There are still a lot to experience in terms of Pizza Tower cut content like the Boss Fight agents Mr. Stick or the other Noise Move set but otherwise this was a nice video going over most of all the “Lore” of PT. Great video%

[@genericname2747]

Glad to see P.T was finally released, even if it changed from a silent hill game to a platformer about pizza

[@Flygoniaks]

[31:40] OK, I know I sound like a maniac for saying this, but all of Snick's taunts are a reference to _KZbin poops_ of all things. To be more specific, they are references to videos by "iteachvader," who has made several original songs out of clips from "The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog" (also known as the Sonic Saturday Morning Cartoon, or "Sonic SATAM"). The three specific songs that are referenced in Snick's taunts are "Hedgehog Stew," "Getaway Submarine," and "Skydiving!"

[@invalid_user_handle]

Fun fact: In the Early Test Build, there's a bunch of data from the builds that predated it which were originally only seen through videos specifically uploaded by Pizza Tower's creator. Said data, including maps, enemies, and a bunch of other stuff, can be accessed pretty easily, although since some things have changed between said builds and the Early Test Build, some things are broken due to objects/rooms being changed around (e.g. locked doors used to warp to different levels but they don't do that anymore, pillar johns had different unlocking mechanics (and you sometimes had to feed them to _stop_ Pizza Time), some rooms have broken camera movement, some doors don't lead anywhere and crash the game).

[@parrotgamesgg]

4:53 *WHEEZE*

[@Gobblin_Goblin]

10:39 is probably the first demo I’ve seen of this game plaid and I don’t remember when it was but it instantly made me excited to see someone trying to make a wario land-like game cause 4 was a childhood favorite

[@maslnaa]

YESSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EVER SINCE TOWER OF PIZZA LETS GOOOOOO

[@kytkeyboardsyoureterrific439]

0:53 a man of culture I see

[@thegoldenhat301]

Fun fact: the victory music for the first demo is actually the victory music for wario world for the Nintendo GameCube

[@thepeeps1]

19:21 Teacher: make it VERY DETAILED grayfruit:*the video*

[@LovablePWNER]

The PilotRedSun grinch level is a real treat

[@edgegrapesmiling]

I'm glad someone recognized Frog's theme from Chrono Trigger.

[@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450]

My experience with pizza tower was the opposite where I played these demos back then, laptop fucking died, game came out like, couple months after, finally got to play the game like last week and was like “what the hell happened this is completely different (and better)”

[@ahmadmalaki8364]

32:46 i genuinely did not expect a death grips reference from gray fruit Than again i didn't expect an aphex twin reference ether

[@Linguini_Guy]

8:35 it's interesting that the Fruit-Man says this. "It's like a whole mini-tower they give you" WELL! Around this time, every level of the game was going to be it's OWN tower, as evidenced by, at the end of the 2nd Demo, it says "This is an early version of the first level!" Apparently, concept art shows that the "Clown-mato" enemy from Don't Make a Sound was gonna be it's OWN boss battle entirely, implying that there was most likely gonna be a circus themed tower to go along with him. Pretty neat!

[@DVORakk-cm2ww]

I'm fairly certain the taunts snick does at 31:40 are a reference to @iteachvader , as he made 3 YTP song that correspond to the taunts. Those songs being: Hedgehog Stew, Getaway Submarine and Skydiving!

[@David_276]

Wow

[@an_annoying_cat]

16:53 i think it may be an early version of the ufo part

[@thymecrafter]

32:59 both are wrong it’s Aluminum Snick

[@LoreGunjurer]

27:59 Weird Twitch scream!

[@RareWub1552]

7:52 “uh oh. Here comes the nuueez”

[@proxy1035]

i love how the voice he gave snick sounds exactly that one specific text to speech engine

[@theadorenoise-d5c]

33:23 its possible

[@Cosmic_ditto23]

I'd love to see like extra levels with the noise as an extra character you unlock after beating it

[@susanjeffrey1927]

32:55 NUH UH THATS ALUMINUM SNICK

[@AttacMage]

golf demo is basically tetris plus if you could throw grandpa into the spikes

[@creeperdoesstuff1]

Fun fact: the twitch streamer scream in the sage demo bloodsauce dungeoun is a death aound, because the anchovy died in the lava. At the time, there was odd screams as death screams.

[@Ваня12к-щ3к]

27:06 i only now see that A looks like an... AMOGUS

[@TheSilliestPersonOnTheMilkyWay]

1:53 john knows the concept of love

[@ShreyasKhadka]

What wha wha wha wha wha wha- 10:15

[@RADZIO895]

21:00 "Because *I* didn't make a noise gun animation" Grayfruit is the actual pizza tower dev??????????????

[@griffin1758]

Grayfruit upload my beloved

[@zem_yt]

I love seeing all the old builds, and how it progressed and developed!

[@Uniii.]

36:36 The perfectly timed idles help

[@Trebolt]

Neat seeing how much still got carried over into the final game, especially things like playable Noise's animations

[@Breakfastbuild]

36:35 "look at the nistmas tree"

[@meatloafer2762]

35:04 I just realized this is one of the guys that's a part of the sprite ripping project for Pizza Tower. If you go to Spriter's Resource for Pizza Tower you'll see him credited in ripping a lot of the sprites. He's a cool dude

[@FrostyLOLreal]

I watched this video while my knee was dislocated and waiting for a ambulance. Thanks grayfruit

[@1thousandarrows944]

dude my jaw ACTUALLY DROPPED and my eyes bugged out of my head IRL when ACTUALLY JUST FROGS THEME started playing

[@egg4666]

The text to speech impression got me

[@Pizzatuber]

19:15 peppino must be trying the new sonic move, good job

[@tehcrusher]

4:23 holy shit, they straightup ripped the stage clear theme from wario world! love that game

[@MrJonh_]

did you know that peppino’s voice in demo 0 is the voice from super mario 64 beta

[@kritten264]

grayfruit upload blesses my day every time 🙏

[@jeremybellusci451]

this is the kinda content i love keep it up grayfruit

[@nicolasrededeo805]

I think the block layout at 12:12 is meant to look like Pizzaface

[@platydig]

The fact that the vigilante was peppino’s friend during Peppino’s Xmas Break kinda caught me off guard