DIY - Adjusting the High Point of Impact, Benelli Super Black Eagle 3

[@samoliveira6598]

Wowzers, I just happen to stumble upon your video as it showed up on my suggestions. I never knew this was a thing for people. After watching your video and reading the comments I can't help but think everyone with this problem has fallen down the good ol KZbin rabbit hole. First off I'm no gunsmith but I have been playing with guns for 40 years and I do know that mag tube ring acts as a secondary recoil lug, (as it would on a rifle) and should not be sitting off the barrel ring. I hate to say it but you did mention briefly in the video that you shoot high regardless of what gun you are using and you mentioned you were going to try and fix that with your style of shooting. I'm a pretty good shot and I rarely miss (I mean we all have our bad days), but from the first time I shot at a moving target at the age of 13, the object was always above my gun barrel. This gives you a larger field of view and you're able to anticipate where you need to be and not stuck in "where you're at mode". I mentioned I have my bad days, brain farts and loss of focus, that's usually the result of me putting my object in line with the barrel and not the bead. Get under your target with both eyes open and you will see a massive difference in your success rate. I will add I have always had high viz aftermarket beads on my rails which greatly help in pointing at the belly of my object and not aiming ahead of it. I mean I'm still ahead of my object on a side swing but my starting point is always under the object. Put a truglo glo.dot on there, both eyes open and throw some shot at the cardboard and you'll be where you need to be.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Somehow your comment was held for review and I missed it! Thanks for your input. I've been hunting with a shotgun since I was a kick 40+ years ago...no real training at the shooting arts. I never had this much problem with my Remington 11-87! Clearly a different gun though...I like your idea of an aftermarket truglo sight...others have said the same thing... Honestly a little professional instruction would help as well, I'm sure my form needs work.

[@daleweaver2558]

Thank you i just purchased one I will make this adjustment.

[@toddbunnett640]

If this info was available when I had mine I would have tried it. Loved the gun until I hated it. Mine shot even higher than yours did. Solid 12 inches of the bottom of the pattern at 20 yards. I sold it. Went back to the trust 50/50 shooting maxus.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

daaang! Yeah, I bought a Stoeger, $300 gun that shoots where I point it! Lol. Maybe I will send this SBE3 to Rob Roberts and see what they can do with it...

[@toddbunnett640]

@@SaltWaterSalmon My SBE2 shoots 60/40. I don’t know why they screwed this up so bad with the SBE3.

[@thomasehrhart4461]

Did you try it again after the second adjustment where you gave it more clearance? You should also use some sort of rest, make sure the rib is "flat" (can't see the front or the back), and use the top of the bead centered on you point of aim. My SBE3 12 ga with 3" chamber has .010 clearance with the forearm off and barrel fully seated. When I tighten the magazine cap that gap goes to zero and the gun shoots 60/40. I'd shoot it to see where you are now, but I'd probably redo it by loosening all the way, clean and put new thread locker on, run the ring all the way down, install the barrel and tighten the cap fully, then run the ring up until its just touching. I bet you will be good then. Conversely, on my SBE3 20ga there is no ring, and mine shot 90/10 from the factory. My only way to adjust is to add tension on the barrel ring by tightening the mag cap beyond hand tight. I did this with a piece of leather and channel lock pliers. End result was 1/4 turn beyond hand tight and I now get a 60/40. The downside is I can't take it off without tools but I'd rather that than learn to shoot differently with this retarded idea of "Europeans float the bird"...

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

OMG, what a great right up! Fact is I haven't shot it after I made the video (in the oilfield for 2 weeks) but I'm going to follow your advice, I knew I should have used my Caldwell Lead Sled rest.... Yeah "float the bird" my bung. this is 'Merica Jack!

[@LateSeasonDucks-oi9mv]

This guy has your answer. My SBE3 is about 70/30 off a bench at 40 yards. My 20 gauge is about the same but I also tighten the holy eff out of the mag cap on it, because apparently Benelli can't figure out how to do their tolerance stack up to make sure shit fits together properly. My upper receiver has about a 1/32 inch gap if you tighten it to what one would consider a normal tension. I tighten that SOB super tight to get the barrel to sit flush against the receiver (they aren't permanently connected on the 20 gauge like they are on the 3.5 inch 12 gauge).

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@LateSeasonDucks-oi9mv thanks for the confirmation!

[@benjaminharrmann3401]

take the charging handle out when you take the gun apart, manual calls for it and makes it by far the fastest shotgun to take apart

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Cool! Thanks for the tip.

[@gsp_in_training]

Come on Benelli. For that price point get it right

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Yeah I was pretty disappointed at first...I'll get it figured out though! Turns out I need to adjust the drop/cast on my 828U as well but I have better luck with her shooting like I'm used too. I've been using a Remington 11-87 for the previous ~32 years! Old dog, new tricks...😁

[@paully8794]

I just got a 2023 sbe3. It shoots right where it should. 70-30. Better than the 2017 I have.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@paully8794 that’s great to hear! A few of the guys commenting here have convinced me to have another go at adjusting this gun, using a rest and being a bit more technical about the whole process. I should be able to get it sorted.

[@upinair4990]

I lost a good chunk of change selling mine after sending it in 3 times for poi issues. Benelli said 90/10 is the best pattern they could guarantee.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@upinair4990 OMG! 90/10 SUCKS!

[@Huntingboy0912]

After you move that down did the pattern stay the same?

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

I haven't been able to ascertain that yet! With the end of bird season I've had to move on to other things. I'll be back with that gun in a few weeks and hope to get that figured out...

[@lindonpierce6076]

What year model is it ? And I thank you can send it to rob roberts and they can make it as low. As you want for 150 200 $

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

I've heard Rob Roberts name come up several time! He/His crew must have the program down, I actually called his shop but never heard back. I'm sure their busy as can be though... I just wasn't willing to give up my gun in the middle of the season. As for the model, beyond SBE3 I'm not sure, I'll need to look into that when I get back to the gun (in AK at the moment). I bought her in January of 2023...

[@chrishall745]

The sight plane and the bore of the barrel are not parallel, it will never shoot low sighting down the rib. The mag tube ring has pretty much nothing to do with it. I went down the benelli rabbit hole with a m2 that shot 100 per. High when aiming down the rib. Shimming only works when pointing , not aiming. To shoot 50/50 they need a flat rib, not a high at the rear low at the front. I machined the rib off my barrel ( everything but the bead ) now it points and aims 50/50 . A flat rib is the only fix for a Benelli. There fix is a montefeltro , its a flat rib gun

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

You just take it into a machine shop or did you use a gunsmith?

[@chrishall745]

I'm a machinist, did the machine work myself

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@chrishall745 ahhhh, well done!

[@HALWG51]

The Montefeltro barrel will fit the SBE.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@HALWG51 😲That's cool!

[@user-ds6qk6ks2n]

The Super Black Eagle 3 is a very bad rifle that shoots high and to the left of the target. I bought a unit for $3,200 and now I am trying to fix this problem, but to no avail. Benelli rifles are very bad.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

I missed a nice Tom this spring turkey Sean because of the issue of high POI! 😕 I just bought a $300 Stoeger!

[@matthewbradley3318]

What’s the problem the gun factory shoots high? I shoot the benelli super vinci and want to buy a new gun but if the guns gonna shoot high I’ll probably go to a beretta. I love my vinci but they don’t make them anymore

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

There are many folks that find their SBE3 shooting crazy high. Not everyone though, and not everyone has an issue with it when it does shoot high. I do though. I grew up with a Remington 11-87, I know this gun will shoot different but Geez for $1800 you should be able to hit the broadside of a barn. It is a fixable issue if you care to fiddle with it, honestly we should all be patterning our new guns anyway. So, that’s what I know, yes many shoot 90/10 or higher from the factory.

[@mhertoro]

Moving the collar on the magazine tube, is only a short term answer, and will in long term ruin the gun. The reason it touches the barrel ring is because it is meant to hold it in place from both sides by tightening the magazine tube cap. Now you have play from the back side by moving it lower. Yes, you adjusted the "shoots high" issue , but now you added another problem to the gun which is a loose barrel ring. In time it will crack from the barrel. Now you have a different problem. Good video. Just not the correct solution. just a band aid. not knocking anyone down, just my two cents...

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Man, it doesn't take a genius to realize that you are 100% correct. I didn't even consider the magazine collar being a backstop for the tube cap! It will probably take "a minute" before there is an issue but someday that barrel ring is going to separate from the barrel...dang it! Thanks for the comment! Now I should just send it in for a factory fix....

[@mhertoro]

I believe you are on the right path. However, the correct thing to do would be: Back off the collar until it is away from the barrel ring. Install the barrel and tighten the magazine cap tube. At this point you have the lowest aim point possible. With the magazine tube cap tight, hand snug the collar back to where it is toughing the barrel ring from the back for support and lock tight it in place. Ensuring the support. Again only my two cents@@SaltWaterSalmon

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@mhertoro good idea 👍🏼

[@garywinters663]

tryed that on my benelli still shot high so i sent it in to benelli still waitng on gun been 3 months

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Now that my bird seasons are over (pretty much) I'm considering sending it in as well. I want to do a little more testing though...

[@gunslinger2240]

Mine shot higher than yours. After 16 weeks at the factory they had to replace my entire barrel

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Wow, crazy. I knew it would take too long for me to get mine back. I chose to wait until after the season (still not sure I'm sending it back). Going to attempt to fix my poor shooting habits and see it that helps!

[@chrishall745]

If they made sbe 3 , and M2 flat rib , i would be first in line to by them . They love to say European style of shooting . How well did that work out in 1776. Come on Benelli give us flat ribs.....

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Yeah I’m not impressed…just bought a Stoeger…🤣🤣🤣

[@chrishall745]

I'm a tool maker , so I machined it off myself

[@user-ds6qk6ks2n]

I bought the SBE3 and when I tried it, I discovered that it shoots high above the target and to the left of the target. In your opinion, what is the best solution to this problem?

[@littlemanoutdoors20ga33]

Benelli - pay an arm and a leg for a scattergun you still have to fix out of the box.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Yeah that’s what I’m finding out. A buddy of mine sold his, bought a Stoeger for $650 and really likes it! 🙄

[@littlemanoutdoors20ga33]

@@SaltWaterSalmon I had the SBEIII. Was my first “luxury gun” as I tend to gravitate toward semi-autos for about a $1000 - don’t have to worry about using them in the grouse woods or rainy days on the pond. I was truly disgusted by the POI and quality. Sold it for a Beretta A300 ultima and never looked back. Seems like these days high cost doesn’t mean high quality with firearms anymore!

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

@@littlemanoutdoors20ga33 I hear you! It’s tough out here for lefties though, not a lot of choices… I’ll keep fussing with this one for a bit, I’m not sending it to Benelli though I want to keep trying myself. Hard headed that way…

[@littlemanoutdoors20ga33]

@@SaltWaterSalmon no way! I’m a lefty too (cross dominant). I wish you good luck!!

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Thank you! @@littlemanoutdoors20ga33

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

apple on a stick

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Tordenguden1]

bye shims

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Are you saying I can get some aftermarket shims? I've already placed the most aggressive shims that came with the unit.

[@mohammadshah5738]

No shims don't help a lot. It just fixes the comb and how much of the rib you see when mounted. The best option would be to have an aftermarket rib installed and the comb raised.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Thanks for your comment @@mohammadshah5738. I'm going to keep fiddling with this gun for the moment but honestly I'm a little sour on it right now.

[@browningmaxus5360]

Scrap metal

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

Hahaha, man I should share the meltdown I had on camera while filming this video! Cussing like a sailor just trying to get the thing reassembled!🤬

[@Chukartramp]

Come on, i wanted to watch it heat up! My favorite thing to do is watch paint dry.

[@SaltWaterSalmon]

🤣🤣🤣