DIY BMW E60 Key Programming

BMW E60 Blank Key Programming using HiTag2 V3.1 Clone and BMW Explorer Clone (EF Scanner FULL V2018.12) for under $200 CAD. The key duplicator is a Defu 368a. The keys are virgin/blank keys. Prices on these tools seems to vary widely month to month but if you search enough, you'll find sellers listing the tools at the prices that I mentioned, or close to it.
Please note: The E/F Scanner MUST be used with the included software, provided by the seller. You CANNOT have your laptop connected to the internet while using the tool as there's a risk it will attempt to update the firmware, resulting in a bricked unit (unless you've opened it up and made a copy of the eprom chip).

[@sofuzzywuzzy]

Bought the HITAG and couldn't figure out how to do it once I finally got the software working, but damn you're awesome! Thanks for the video!!

[@souk-tv]

I agree

[@davispaul82]

By far the best and most informative video I seen so far. You need to continue making these kinds of video covering everything you can think of. Cheers

[@djbmw1]

Thanks Paul! I appreciate the kind words. I have a small hobby shop and mostly work on BMWs for fun but can certainly post up more videos. Is there anything in particular you're looking to see/learn?

[@davispaul82]

@@djbmw1 Nothing in particular but your presentation are excellent. BMW content would be wonderful but other things you do as hobbiees would be as well. Its good seeing what people do in their free time.

[@davispaul82]

@@djbmw1 You asked if they were other videos you can possibly make, yes there is. How to make a bench top ecu and reader would be interesting.

[@davispaul82]

You asked me what other video's you can make. would you be able to make a very imformative video on how to retrofit and program a CIC retrofit on the bmw E60, E82, and E9X. Videos are out there but the most important part seems to be missing. I just finish retrofitting the CIC in my NoN CIC e82 and at the moment its not fully functional because I havent programmed it to my VIN and certificates.

[@davispaul82]

whats the link for the drivers?

[@Erik-vv5oy]

Thanks for sharing this video, i learned alot thanks to you. I got everything to work exept i cannot enter to "Key Learning" in the EF Scanner Software. When i click on "Key learning" it asks me for an ECU Update, which i refused to do because i dont want to risk to brick the CAS or anything else, i dont even know what will happend if i allow to do the update, i cannot find any information on the internet about this step. So tryed it on a different Car E60 2004 CAS2, here i get the warning "ignition off" after i pressed "key learning" like in your video, however i get no key data here it only writes 00000. I have the orange full version of the EF Scanner. So i think the Software (2019) is not working. After all tryed already 3 Cars... Some ask me directly for the ECU to update OR i get 0000 and no Data... I gues i need to look for other methods like vvdi2.... Or do you know how i can solve this issue ?

[@BlaqueJezus]

thanks for reviving that old thread lol I still need to program one for my 2010 e60

[@djbmw1]

You're very welcome! It was frustrating to read all of the misinformation out there so I figured I'd share some alternatives that can work without costing an arm and a leg.

[@djbmw1]

I spent hours researching different tools to use in order to CHEAPLY and QUICKLY program E series keys. So many forums were full of incorrect information and scare tactics (generally applying to downgrading the CAS, which I wouldnt do with these Cloned tools either), it was crazy! Of course, there are 'pro-grade' tools like CGDI, VVDI, etc that cost $1,000 + but I didnt want to spend that much money on something that really should be simple. The method above seems to be the quickest, most cost-effective way to make keys for E series vehicles.

[@user-bg9rc1sx1s]

Do you have a link how to do downgrade? I have same problem, but i lost all my keys, so apparently i have no way to get a secret key from old key like you did.

[@djbmw1]

@@user-bg9rc1sx1s EF Explorer can do 'all keys lost' with the 2019 (blue) full version. If it needs to downgrade your CAS then it will prompt you. I personally would only downgrade a CAS on a bench, and not in the car. Also, try to make a backup of it before hand so if something goes wrong you at least have the original files to restore from (though you might need to solder an R270 to your CAS if thats the case)

[@user-bg9rc1sx1s]

@@djbmw1 I got R270 programmer already (it was pretty cheap only $20). Was able to read eeprom from cas and then create a new key and new eeprom with hitag. After that uploaded new eeprom to my car and now it unlock doors, but will not start engine. Not sure what's wrong, i think cas needs to be downgraded. Do you know any forums with information? I was able to find forums that giving you support only if you purchase a $1000 diagnostic tool from them :(

[@djbmw1]

@@user-bg9rc1sx1s It sounds like the key's ISN doesn't match one of the ISN's in the CAS. You need to be able to access the CAS and see which slots are already used and if the ISN of your key matches one of those positions in the CAS. If you have E/F Scanner V2018.12, you can simply do "All keys lost" and write a new key if you dont have an existing key. If a downgrade of the CAS is required, it will prompt you and automatically do it for you. If all you have is the R270 then I cant really help you as I haven't used an R270 for writing keys. Again though, downgrading a CAS should only be done outside of the vehicle, on the bench (meaning you'll need to go to a junk yard and get some parts from a scrapped BMW)

[@josesalinas8516]

@@djbmw1 i am extremely surprised this is 3 days ago.. i just bought an e90 335i clean title but no key. What would be the best approach to get a new one made cheaply? You seem very knowledgeable and honestly reading all of that I understood maybe 30% of it. I've fiddled around with something somewhat similar on my e46 but the e90 is unknown to me. Any tips and tricks wouls be greatly appreciated before I suck it up and go to the dealer for a new key. Thankss

[@kaick8552]

Awesome, it works!! I use this set for copying the key of e92 335i cas3.

[@djbmw1]

Nice! Its good to hear that you were able to DIY your key programming without having to give up your arm and leg to the dealership!

[@NeverDieKnight]

I ordered the kit after your amazing tutorial, in other videos it says take keys out of ignition while flashing the key. Can you flash it without key being in ignition if it's comfort access ?

[@The_North0]

I have a question for you, have you ever tried to use hitag2 key maker using eeprom file to add new key as opposed to e/f scanner to see if the unlock or lock feature from the key remote works on your car? Thanks

[@wombat581]

Just purchased the Hitag and the EF scanner, looking forward to giving this a go for my E87 Going to prep my laptop with a fresh install of windows 7 anything else you'd advise me to do?

Hello, thank you very much for your video. I have bought the EFscan in China, but the software is damaged. Do you know of a place to download it? Thank you very much

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

So you make a keyless go key with hitag2? That’s my question using Bmw explore option in hitag2

[@tinnguyen143]

Thank you. You deserve (at minimum) a like AND subscribe if that's worth anything to you. This is an example of clear/concise info sharing. Thank you thank you!

[@tinnguyen143]

Btw you need to end every video with that celebratory snicker/laugh as your signature lol

[@djbmw1]

I appreciate that Tin! Glad I could help! My laugh was genuine excitement after being told by a number of locksmiths that "you cant program a BMW fob by yourself" .. and then making a working key to prove them wrong (and numerous keys since). I'll periodically upload more content for e60 and e70's so stay tuned!

[@Robzetx]

Hello, this is very impressive job You have done there, only one thing I'd like to ask, as I can see Your soft is for scanner 2013.07, but in description suggestion to use EF scanner Full V2018.12, can I use old version 2013 or it is important to use more expensive 2018.12 TIA

[@djbmw1]

Thank you. I ended up purchasing both and the 2018 version is much more feature rich and supports many more firmware versions. It also was the same price at the time. The most important thing, however, is to make sure your CAS firmware is original and supported by the version of EF Scanner you purchase. If your CAS firmware has been updated at the dealer, for example, you will need to perform a firmware downgrade in order for EF Scanner to work with it. You can use INPA (free) and likely many other tools to check your CAS firmware version before purchasing EF Scanner.

[@Rebecca-is7ne]

What version of cas firmware should I have for the ef scanner to work my cars e60 ?

[@Hryniu169]

Great video! Do the remote control buttons work on the newly paired key?

[@djbmw1]

Thank you! The remote lock/unlock/trunk works after syncing the key - though I haven't been able to get the comfort access to work. Admittedly, I haven't spent much time troubleshooting as I dont really use CA.

[@Habbasio]

VERY CLEAR LOT OTHER DOES SHOW BUT THIS 100 GOOD

[@normangardner2473]

Thank you for this excellent summary. Do you know what tool I would need to use for this to work on a 2012 F30?

[@djbmw1]

I believe v2018.12 offers cas4 and cas4+ F series key programming with F-ISN... But i personally haven't programmed keys for an F series (only on E series) so I suggest researching it further before making any purchases.

[@flyhacking5830]

Did you ever end up trying?

[@JY-pf7bc]

Thank you for sharing this very detailed video. It's awesome! I bought an empty key from Aliexpress and try to prep it for Explorer. But Hitag2 software said 'Transponder is not "empty"'. Did you know how to empty it? Thanks.

[@djbmw1]

If you try to read the key data with hitag, do you see data on the key? If it arrived this way i would contact the seller and ask for a replacement key. You need a different tool to erase transponder chip data

[@BBOYMixFive]

​ @djbmw1 hello! Is only "EF scanner" enought for writing a new empty key for e60 (CAS2) ? Could i put in in ignition lock, going to CAS and add new this one?

[@Erik-vv5oy]

​@@djbmw1 Hi thank for your support for the community. I also have this Problem.... Do you know which software i need to empty the Data from the Transponder of the Key?

[@djbmw1]

@@Erik-vv5oy search for the ' PCF79xx Unlocker' tool on Aliexpress or similar

[@bmwassistsofia]

Hello, im using 2013 ef scanner the clone, cas doesn't read, ELV locks on every try, tried 3 cars with cas3 and it does the same. Not working any advice?

[@paddyladdd9395]

hey man I read my cas module on inpa and its says I have version 5.040 up the top can I code another key to the car with this version? It also says my system is cas 2

[@kevinberry7076]

Thanks for posting this for BMW owners trying to save $$$. So, in order to get "Comfort Plus" (start w key in pocket), you have to add a module/parts to the car?

[@djbmw1]

You're very welcome! If you car is a Comfort Access (CA) car and the CAS can support it, and you've purchased a virgin CA key, then it should work. However, in the two times ive programmed a key with EF scanner for a CA car, i havent been able to get the CA features to work.

[@sono2003yahoo]

thank you. I was able to learn a lot from your video and comments below. I successfully make a clone cas2 module on the bench using r270 as the eprom data was migrated from my original car to clone. I also bought a Chinese ef scanner (2018 ver) to make a clone key. however as the same issue the other people happening, the scanner was unable to recognize the cas2 and not able to read the data from the key learning. I did also tried to downgrade the program of cas2 to a certain ver but did not help. so decided to step the other way which was to use hitag2 to create a key by using the EEPROM from cas2 as the higtag has the function to do so. then I confirmed that cas2 was able to be recognized on the bench as kombi showed the normal sign by inserting the key to the slot. probably all I need is sync with dme when connected to the car. on the other hand, my concern is now that the hitag2 don't show the remote control information (such as key number, secret key high/low..) in the advanced function. probably I believe that it will be required for the remote lock/unlock to the door. do you know why it is missing from higtag2 key maker process? I want to have all clear for my clone preparation in case of the issue happening. sorry for the long text.

[@djbmw1]

Ive only used R270 to backup a CAS and repair a bricked one... ive never used it when programming keys so Im not much help there. Yes, hitag should read key data... if its coming up blank then something went wrong or the transponder chip is faulty. You can buy new transponder chips (PCF7592) from Aliexpress and solder them onto the key's board for a lot less money than buying a virgin key. There's also a tool that can erase data on PCF transponders... but i havent tried that

[@sono2003yahoo]

@@djbmw1 thanks for the useful info. i thought that each blunk key has an unique ID already installed as the chip can not easily be replaced with a new one. do you mean i can keep the same key ID although the transponder is changed to the new one?

[@djbmw1]

@@sono2003yahoo the transponder chip has its own unique ID that cannot be changed as the transponder is supposed to be Read-only (perhaps there IS a way... but im unaware of it). In other words.. you get one chance to write data to the key... if you mess up, the transponder is junk. However, if you know how to solder you can desolder the transponder and solder in a new, virgin, PCF transponder chip so that you can re-attempt another "write" session

[@sono2003yahoo]

@@djbmw1it is a great info, thanks. maybe the latest transponder is either pcf7952 or pcf7953?

[@sono2003yahoo]

​@@djbmw1 my car is E90 and the key based on pcf7944 315MHz LP. Initially I selected a Chinese clone which has 26S0700 (maybe compatible with pcfxxx as it said in the description). I made a clone as I described in the previous comment with hitag2. everything looked ok but the remote control information. I thought that the reason why there was a missing on the remote control information because hitag2 did not support my key type. But I replaced the chip for the used key which I bought previously according to your suggestion. I used the exactly the same chip type as the one used for my original key (pcf7944). then it was successfully cloned by following the hitag2 key maker! I am not able to check remote key function on the bench. but I am sure that it should work on the car as I am able to see the info of the remote control. thankyou for your help!😊

[@thegrassisntgreenertodaytony]

Great video and Canadian! Where did you get the BMW explorer device?

[@djbmw1]

Thanks! Its a clone of BMW Explorer that i purchased from Aliexpress. They call it 'EF Scanner Full'. The seller that I bought it from is 'ECUCar'. There was another guy in the comments that asked for the link to the seller and i think the link is still floating around in the comments somewhere :-)

[@thegrassisntgreenertodaytony]

@@djbmw1 Got it. mine just arrived today :)

[@djbmw1]

@@thegrassisntgreenertodaytony right on! Just be sure to always have a charger on the car when doing any ecu coding. Alternatively.. making a bench setup with scrap car parts is the safer route to avoid any voltage drops/blips

[@xr500t]

I was wondering if instead of BMW Explorer, can you use INPA? which is what I have (I'm not very experienced with it, admittedly) but it looks very familiar.

[@djbmw1]

Inpa cannot program keys into the CAS. It can, however, read key positions

[@souk-tv]

I have had the HiTag for nearly a year and haven't been able to work it out properly as none of the useful videos I've stumbled upon on KZbin have been made in English, your video on the other hand has been more useful. Although it might help more if you had screen shot certain parts of your unedited video in to picture format in parts and then cleanly cropped out certain personal information for your car and then inserted your edited images in to the video where we could have paused it and properly seen all the menu options clearly rather than blur it. That being said your video was still way more useful. 👍 Do you know if that explorer software will work with a standard BMW INPA K+CAN Ediabas K DCAN cable, or will I definitely have to buy that explorer module to complete the coding side ? Thanks man!

[@djbmw1]

Sorry for not responding sooner. Thank you for your comments! A DCAN cable will not allow you to program the CAS this easily. I've seen it being done by manipulating the HEX tables.... but that seemed like far too much effort. Of note: the software that I am using is the clone/cracked version of BMW Explorer that was shipped with my E/F Scanner. They also ship the decryption key as well with everything. If you were to purchase the official BMW Explorer tool its over $1,000. At that price,.. you're better off buying CGDI. PS - HiTag is great for reading/writing key transponder data. It does not, however, interface with the CAS inside the car. The marketing is pretty poor as it really should emphasize that HiTag can only interface with a Key but in order to create a working key, you ALSO need to then write that key into a slot in the CAS module which requires another tool (like E/F Scanner)

[@ChristianK775]

I've got an E90 from 2006 which has comfort access and keyless go. Now I want to program a new key because I only have one. I can find two types of transponders: PCF7953 and PCF7945. As I found out, the PCF7953 is for keyless go, while the PCF7945 has to be put in the ignition shaft. So I want the PCF7935 (to not loose the comoft access and keyless go function), BUT: in the software (HiTag) I can't see that the PCF7953 ist listed, while the PCF7945 is. Is it right, that with the shown tools, it is not possible to program a PCF 7953 key? What do you recommend to me to do? Thank you very much.

[@djbmw1]

Ive now attempted 4 keyless go keys and they all require to be inserted into the key fob slot. I have yet to get they keyless go function to work BUT i also havent really spent any time on it as these are all spare keys and I dont *need* the CA feature.

[@ChristianK775]

@@djbmw1thank you for your answer. Have you programmed PCF7953 or PCF7945?

[@djbmw1]

@@ChristianK775 the virgin keys in the video contained a PCF7952 transponder and fall under FCC ID: KR55WK49186

[@djohnson4211]

Hey, great Video, but looking at Ali, it seems the “full” version of the scanner is almost $500 unless I am missing something. I’m trying to get new keys for an 09 535 that I was only given a single fob without the cut key. Car does have the convenience package so the key does not need to be in the key slot. I’ve done a bunch of keys on my e38/9/53’s but this is a little different.

[@djbmw1]

Thank you. There are a number of sellers on Aliexpress and prices are all over the place. The seller on Ali that I purchased mine from is 'ECUCAR' and they seemed to have the cheaper pricing. If you're also looking to get a key blade cut (in case the cars battery dies and you cant use the fob to unlock the car), you will have to get one cut either by key code, based on your VIN,.. Or you can get your lock tumbler picked with a tumbler pick that will also show you the cut code. You'll then need to get the key cut with a mill cutter that can cut from codes... Most lock smiths should have one.

[@djohnson4211]

@@djbmw1 Thank you. Read through the rest of the posts and I did see you mentioned the seller you bought from and it seems like they are no longer a seller, from what I can see their name doesn’t come up. The other question I have is the cutter you have sitting on your bench, will that cut keys? Also, I see you mention that you’ve never been able to get a key to start the car without putting it into the key slot, am I understanding that correct? Thanks Dave.

[@djbmw1]

@@djohnson4211 ECUCAR is still selling on Aliexpress. Ill link it below. Regarding comfort access... That's correct. I have not been able to get the CA function to work, though I havent spent much time attempting it (its a CA key and was programmed for CA access in the CAS module.. I might need to do the 'pairing ritual' to get it to work one day). Here is ECUCAR's ali page (seller id 223677285) : m.aliexpress.com/store/v3/home.html?shopId=1879396&sellerId=223677285&spm=a2g0n.detail.0.0.809aszODszODiz&pagePath=index.htm&gclid=&extParams=

[@djohnson4211]

@@djbmw1 Yes! Thank you, I don’t know what I was doing wrong. I picked one up, it doesn’t say if it’s the full version however. Now I just need the key reader, I have an ak90 already that won’t work huh?

[@keyherobln]

@@djbmw1 there is no key code by vin... you can read out key code only from cas 1-3

[@akmtvtacik]

Could you please advise is it acceptable to use these tools to program all BMW series, and my next question is what is the best tool to program Mercedes Benz key series, thanks in advance.

[@djbmw1]

Hi Faig. Thank you for watching the video. Each EF Explorer model lists the different types of vehicles that it can work on. Of note, the CAS must have the original firmware installed. If the CAS was updated at a dealership there's a chance that you'll have to reflash the firmware which should only be done on a bench setup, and not in the car.

[@joshfeygin2421]

Hello, do you have a link to the virgin keys you have used in the past with success? Having a hard time figuring out which to buy.

[@djbmw1]

I purchased mine on Aliexpress from "Keysmith Store". There are lots of other sellers though... Just make sure it matches your FCC ID and frequency

[@shanet6039]

Are you able post link to seller who you bought the ef scanner from? There’s few on AliExpress and seems like most have bad reviews

[@djbmw1]

I bought mine from 'ECUCar' on Aliexpress... m.aliexpress.com/store/v3/home.html?shopId=1879396&sellerId=223677285&spm=null&pagePath=index.htm&gclid=null&extParams=

[@djaor]

Hi Mate , is it possible in to change the odometer Km as the keys doesn’t match with it ….thanks

[@djbmw1]

Ef Scanner claims it can change the odometer mileage but i havent tried. Ive seen other people having to remove the eprom chip from the cluster and change the hex data using an eprom reader... But ef scanner claims it can do it over obd. Again, i havent tried so I cant attest to its effectiveness

[@markzuege8641]

Hi, I purchased this exact setup and everything has gone well except the part in bmw explorer when I attempt to click key learning button in "extra options" menu I get the error unknown version ECU. Any idea what might cause this or what might be a solution? I have the vehicle attached to charger, have tried the clicking the key learning button with ignition on and off key in key out, no difference. Thanks!

[@djbmw1]

That means that the version of CAS software likely has been updated at some point by a dealership (you can check the date) and Ef Scanner would need to downgrade it (flash it with older software) in order to write the new key. NOTE: CAS firmware downgrades should only ever be done on a bench and after youve made a copy of your existing CAS. Do not do thos over obd in the car.

[@markzuege8641]

@@djbmw1 That sounds a bit nasty... Might be out of my comfort zone, pity I was excited to make this work :( Is this downgrade relatively safe? Can it be done with these tools or do I need more hardware/software to achieve the CAS downgrade. I wonder if it would be possible to get newer ef scanner software that would recognize my current cas version...

[@djbmw1]

@@markzuege8641 unfortunately downgrading is just par of the course when programming keys with any tool, including vvdi, cgdi, etc. Technically ef scanner can downgrade the cas software over obd but there's a risk that it will get bricked since your voltage level is not stable AND other modules are interacting with it at the same time. To make a bench kit you'll need to visit a junk yard and get some wiring harnesses and a few components. I believe VVDI and Xhorse sell pre made bench kits though.

[@twniyes0911]

Hi thank you for this video ! You explained it very well, however when I click on the Hitag 2 device programmer it says that the hardware isn’t plugged, would you maybe know the solution ?

[@djbmw1]

You're very welcome! Did you go to FTDI's website and download the latest D2XX drivers (64 bit)? You can then open up your "System Manager" and check your USB driver to see if the driver worked. You also need to roll your system clock back to a date between between 12.1.2010 and 1.04.2011 using timeback software such as "runasdate" or "TimeTravel". You might also have to run HiTag in Compatability mode as well, depending on you OS.

[@twniyes0911]

djbmw1 I just did download the latest D2XX drivers and rolled my clock system back but it says that there’s a problem with the drivers… like it says they aren’t any drivers but I’ve downloaded a link that my seller sent me (the cd with the drivers was missing) with the drivers compressed in rar that I decompressed and installed ?? I just don’t know what to do urgh like you said, the drivers are the hardest part of it all

[@djbmw1]

@@twniyes0911 in your System Manager you should be able to see what the USB port sees when you plug in HiTag. Sometimes there's a driver conflict which adds even more frustration. If you have a different laptop/computer to try it on, id give that a shot too. Just keep in mind that these are chinese clones of tools and software from the early 2000's so getting them to run on computers made in this decade is a bit of a challenge

[@twniyes0911]

djbmw1 thank you for being spontaneous in you responses I really appreciate it, I’ve been on it for like 4/5 hours now maybe I need to sit this one out and get to back to it later when I’m more relaxed bc it is really frustrating and consuming !! Have a nice day/or night depends where you at

[@twniyes0911]

djbmw1 have one more question if it’s ok ! The bmw explorer clone is mandatory to make the key work ? (Im sorry to have all of these question but I’m doing this for my dad..) if so, can you send me a link of the one you bought ? Thank you very much

[@oswaldoxaviersolis6596]

How did you get the hitag to read with the software. Any type of driver I add to the device it will not let me add it.

[@djbmw1]

What type of error are you getting? Is Hitag recognized in your Device Manager? Did you also roll your system clock back to a date within the specified range for hitag?

[@richi144]

Which version of Windows are you using windows 10? 32/64 Bit?

[@rickbiggs2966]

I have recently purchased the same setup, but am having difficulty installing the software as I didn't get any instructions. Would you have a installation process? Also, are you running with with Windows 10 pro? Thanks!

[@djbmw1]

Hi Rick - There should be instructions in a ReadMe file on the disc that each of the tools came with. Having said that, I still had to do a bit of extra work... For HiTag I had to go to FTDI's website and download the latest D2XX drivers (64 bit). You can then open up your "System Manager" and check your USB driver to see if the driver worked. I also had to roll my system clock back to a date between between 12.1.2010 and 1.04.2011 using timeback software such as "runasdate" or "TimeTravel". For your E/F Scanner it should have come with software that is pretty straight forward,.. however, you must use "run as administrator" for the BMW Explorer version that your tool came with.

[@Entertainmentinc1]

@@djbmw1 hey i did the d2xx driver thing and the time thing but i just cant get this hitag to work on my windows 10, do you know maybe i could be doing something wrong. also ran the software in windows 7 and xp compatible mode but no luck. it just keep giving me a hardware not ready error

[@djbmw1]

@@Entertainmentinc1 do you have another computer that you can try to install it on? I had a much easier time installing it and getting it to work on one computer vs another -likely due to driver conflicts. You could also go into your device manager and see if there are conflicts on the usb bus. Finally, is your computer date set back appropriately with a date change tool?

[@Entertainmentinc1]

@@djbmw1 thanks for replying man, i got the hitag software working in the virtualbox windows xp but the cant get the bmw scanner software working cause it says it can't run in a virtual machine, so i think i need a dedicated windows xp laptop for these ancient softwares lol. Protip for anyone dealing with these clone bmw softwares just get a dedicated windows xp (32bit) laptop so you don't have to jump thru hoops

[@djbmw1]

@@Entertainmentinc1 i suppose that would work as well :-) i have them running on Windows 10 pro, in compatibility mode with admin access but they did take a couple hours of fiddling with to get them to run properly.

[@bmwassistsofia]

HELLO Is this safe for cas2 cas3 cas3+ im scared of killing the cas over obd? Also is it more safe to bench pins on it?

[@djbmw1]

Using Chinese bootlegged software and cloned hardware is hardly 'Safe'. The 'safe' method is to pay the $300 or so that the dealer charges. However, if you have good electronics knowledge and are looking to learn how the CAS system works and invest in tools... This is one of the many methods to write new keys. Can you brick your CAS? Yes. However... You can back up the eeprom file before hand so that IF you brick your CAS you can use an R270 to restore it with your eeprom file. Again, what i show in my video is simply one of the methods that I use to make BMW keys for the vehicles I own. It comes with risks. But... I own a shop and have decent electronics knowledge and am willing to take the risk and potentially spend more time repairing any corruptions that I might mistakenly make.

[@poggioimperiale]

Any help to get the link to download gambit v2.07 please?

[@flyingyakdeath]

Is there something similar for a bmw F30 which I think has cas4 with FEM/BDC?

[@djbmw1]

According to the specs, the 2018 version works with CAS4 CAS4+ for F-series keyprog module with F-ISN. Having said that, i personally have only used it for CAS3 so I dont know how well it does or doesnt work on CAS4

[@aceweb]

Hi, Do you know if this procedure/equipment would work for a R56 Mini cooper key also?

[@djbmw1]

Hi Martin. According to the spec sheet of the EF Scanner 2018-12 Full, it supports Mini Cooper (R56, R57), 2005+

[@aceweb]

@@djbmw1 great thanks for the reply 😊👍

[@aceweb]

@@djbmw1 I just tried and it works! thanks again for the video 😊

[@Kaiser_Dino]

Hi, do you have a link to any Aliexpress store please? I found Some but they comes only with a cd and no usb stick. Do you Know if the cd replace the usb stick with all the data inside? Thank you

[@djbmw1]

Hi Alaeddine. I bought mine from the seller "ECUCAR" on Aliexpress. Make sure its the "Full version" of E/F Scanner. Also, the newest version is V2018.12 and is typically blue, not Orange. The Orange one that I used in the video is the older model with 2013 firmware on it. Regarding the USB dongle - it's actually CAS Control (it's not a USB Storage stick). Its used for various automated calculations - CAS dump explorer, KEY decrypt, ISN extract from dump, ISN restore from rolling codes etc. You absolutely need this when doing keys.

[@Kaiser_Dino]

@@djbmw1 ah ok!! thank you very much for your help and for your quick answer. I really appreciate 🙏 I ll give you my feedback once I receive mein

[@djbmw1]

@@Kaiser_Dino you're very welcome!

[@simonfei3269]

I got to the “key learning” step 9:07 but all the remote control and immobilized slots are 0’s and all “write new key” buttons are greyed out. Do you know why that might be?

[@djbmw1]

That usually happens when either the tool is the 'scanner' version and not the 'full' version that allows programming, or the CAS has been flashed to a version that ef scanner doesnt work with. Having said that, the 2019 version of ef scanner will tell you if the CAS firmware is incompatible and prompt you to perform a downgrade.

[@simonfei3269]

@@djbmw1 Thank you for the quick reply! So when you mention the 'scanner' version do you refer to the BMW Explorer software or the hardware? And how do I check the CAS firmware version? For reference my car is a 2006 330i

[@djbmw1]

@@simonfei3269 you're very welcome! They sell a few different versions of EF Scanner... And they all visually look the same. The cheaper models are generally just glorified OBD2 diagnostic scanners and the 'full' versions offer programming capabilities (including key programming). The Aliexpress product page will generally specifify which model does what. Regarding CAS firmware version... This is shown when you click into the CAS module after performing the initial scan. Its denoted along with the date of install in the lower window frame once you access the CAS modulr.

[@ALIAK1]

Links for the parts?

[@Erik-vv5oy]

Bro after you prepared the .bek file you load it into your USB. Where is that .bek file located i cannot find it to put it into my usb

[@djbmw1]

Its been a while since i programmed a key but i believe its in one of the hitag folders. Just search your hard drive for a. bek file.

[@xans777]

Do you know if you can edit keys already programmed? I had someone program keyless go keys but they programmed them as regular keys

[@djbmw1]

Is the fob itself a keyless go fob? The internal circuitry is different than a standard key. If it IS correct then the second thing to look at is the key positions. The keys should be in slot 1 and 2. If they are in a later position in the key table then they will not function as keyless go keys. Having said all of that, i believe that you can change the 'type' of key on an already programmed key. I actually think ISTA can do this with an iCAN+ cable (total of $20 and some time downloading and installing ISTA).

[@xans777]

​@djbmw1 yeah they are keyless go (they have the battery opening on the back) I've checked with ista only thing I can do is block keys. And even with my regular keys blocked it still didn't work. I checked with tool32 and all 4 keys are programmed as non keyless go keys. I've ordered the ef scanner to see what I can do hopefully

[@xans777]

​@@djbmw1I've also heard some conflicting statements on the key positions. I've heard that only the first 2 progammed comfort access keys will work as "CA" keys for example if positions 1 and 2 are regular keys and positions 3 4 and 5 are comfort access keys only 3 and 4 will work as such because you can only have 2 comfort access keys programmed. But if also heard what you mentioned as well

[@djbmw1]

@@xans777 thats correct - CA keys have to be in slot 1 and slot 2 of the key list in the CAS in order to function correctly. Ef Scanner (full) allows you to change the keys position within the CAS key table.

[@xans777]

​@djbmw1 thanks for the help I'll check it out once I get it

[@coolbitbmwretrofitgarage8033]

I add key e89. Car start but remote not work 😐🤔. Why? Need coding or synchro?

[@djbmw1]

I would first test to see if the key is transmitting. For myself I use a Nooelec SDR RTL2832 and tune it to listen to the transmitting frequency of the key. I then press any of the fob buttons and see if the SDR picks up the signal. If the key is indeed working, and other keys work too, then I would try one of several "key sync" proceedures (lots of websites post steps). If none of the fobs remote commands are being heard, I would then look at the receiving antenna on the car (at the top of the rear window just under the headliner). If this unit is bad you might also be experiencing degraded fm radio reception. You can attempt to clean the contacts or replace the unit. Best of luck.

[@coolbitbmwretrofitgarage8033]

@@djbmw1 key radio work.

[@anasgharaibeh9997]

Thancks for video. I have ef programmer and when start ecu update it end with error (ecu update error wake him up then try again ) is there any solution for this ?

[@djbmw1]

This means that your CAS has been flashed at some point with newer firmware. Downgrading the CAS needs to be done on the bench. The errors you're getting are from other modules interacting with the CAS while you're attempting an in car downgrade (very risky btw)

[@anasgharaibeh9997]

@@djbmw1 Thancks for your reply. I have done this in the bench . And i try also msd81 isn read and get the same error. I tested another cas3 and i can read isn and make key ( i think this ccas3 has original firmware). I tested in bench with gateway ,and without directly with 120 ohm resistor for msd81 and no luck Do you have any suggestions please?

[@matthewmummert7593]

Great video. Do you or anyone know how to have 2018 e/f scanner software not prompt or get past popup "update ecu?" when clicking "key learning"? CAS info shows 2 versions dated, 25.04.2006 and 02.11.2017 followed by "Update is available" in text. 2014 E84 X1. Thanks!

[@djbmw1]

Hi Matthew, Thank you! The information provided means that your CAS module was updated by a dealership at some point and the original firmware of 25.04.2006 was updated to a newer, more secure 02.11.2017. The "update" is generally a downgrade to your CAS to a version that EF Scanner is able to work with. This should ONLY be done on a bench and NEVER in the vehicle as the risk of 'bricking' the CAS is quite high in-vehicle. I also suggest making a backup of your CAS so that, if the downgrade does fail and bricks your CAS, you will be able to recover it using the backup file and an R270 programmer.

[@matthewmummert7593]

@@djbmw1 Makes sense. I hoped a 2018 EF Scanner could handle a 2 NOV 2017 update. I need to do several e series all with the update so maybe I need to get a tool that can handle them with the updated CAS firmware. Suggestions welcomed.

[@djbmw1]

@@matthewmummert7593 most, if not all of the tools, will require you to downgrade the CAS if the current version has the newer encryption. Having said that, CGDI, VVDI, etc are all tools that have a much larger user base behind them and you can purchase add on 'bench test' kits vs making your own. EF scanner will work just fine but you really need to visit a scrap yard to pull some wires to make a bench test kit. I believe BMW Explorer has details on what cables and parts you need from a scrap car to build your bench kit.

[@kieferste]

I'm tempted to buy that explorer have you had any issues with it

[@djbmw1]

I ended up buying both models.. The 2013 full version (orange) and the 2018 full version (blue). The 2018 version is much better than the 2013 and it allows much easier coding capabilities than using ista-p. Remember to also get the 'full' version which allows programming vs just reading data. If you're using it for key programming make sure to also have HiTag. Its good for coding things like maintenance intervals, changing mileage, changing the VIN, etc. Those things can also be done in Ista and some in inpa... Though its pretty straight forward using EF Scanner. At the end of the day, inpa and ista does 85% of what ef scanner does... The remaining 15% is working with the CAS module for key programming. If you dont need to program keys just buy a DCAN cable and download inpa and ista.

[@kieferste]

@@djbmw1 I have ista and inpa it was for the cas I have hitag too so heard mixed reviews on the explorer just wanted to make sure it's ok

[@djbmw1]

@@kieferste its worked well for me so far. Just be sure to disable your internet before plugging the unit into your laptop.. Otherwise it will try to update the firmware which will brick the unit since its running cracked firmware.

[@kieferste]

@@djbmw1 thank you much appreciated

[@The_North0]

I am wondering if I can use key maker on hitag2 if I have eeprom file to automatically make a new key?

[@djbmw1]

Yes, you can use the eeprom file to prepare the key... But you still need to write it to the CAS with a tool like EF Scanner/BMW Explorer, CGDI, VVDI, etc.

[@The_North0]

@@djbmw1 can I write it from r270? I got the eeprom file from r270 because cas3 is encrypted so I had to soldered to access the encrypted cas. I have hitag, bmw explorer and r270 and cas platform.

[@djbmw1]

@@The_North0 bmw explorer and ef scanner will both decrypt CAS3. If you are a developer and want to waste months trying to interpret hex data and then write your new key to the cas using hex data then you could use the r270. Otherwise just use bmw explorer as they have already spent the time to write the software to interpret and write hex data. Ps.. The r270 is useful to make a backup file of the cas, and to restore a bricked cas module.

[@The_North0]

@@djbmw1 I used r270 and hitag2 to made a new key. It works as can start the car with the new key however I can’t use unlock or lock buttons on the key and comfort access still doesn’t work with my old key or new key. I am still trying to figure out why these things just stop working one day especially when the radio is working perfectly fine. My other Bmw’s keys fob just stopped unlock or lock for some reason. This is why I am looking to see if new key remedy the problem.

[@djbmw1]

@@The_North0 the remote lock and unlock use rolling codes whereas the transponder chip is static. Thats likely why you can start the car but cant remotely lock/unlock... Unless your diversity antenna where the headliner and back glass meet has too much corrosion (from condensation)

[@isitgoodtodo2834]

will it start the car with the new key? or just remove key functions thanks

[@djbmw1]

This video shows how to make working spare keys that will lock/unlock and start the vehicle

[@isitgoodtodo2834]

@@djbmw1 yeah just saw it at the end, i looked a bit at aliexpress it's around 200US w shipping we'll see if i decide to do it not, very good video tho

[@isitgoodtodo2834]

@@djbmw1 i noticed you can download the explorer from the internet is the orange obd2 nessescary?

[@djbmw1]

@@isitgoodtodo2834 the official bmw explorer is like $1000 for the hardware,.. And the software is free. The orange and blue ones are chinese clones of bmw explorer which means the software has been cracked to work with the chinese clone. If you purchase the Chinese clones like i have, nake sure you purchase the 'full' version and not just the scanner capabilities.

[@anasgharaibeh9997]

Hi If laptop conected to internet and start program and adapter conected The adapter will be blocked? Or if i try to make update for software Thancks

[@djbmw1]

You will most likely brick your EF Scanner which will require a firmware flash. I doubt the company would send you the firmware file so you'd need to send your EF Scanner back to the seller for an exchange.

[@anasgharaibeh9997]

@@djbmw1 Thancks

[@danielhuang7403]

Thanks heaps for putting this full Hitag2 & BMW Explorer along with the DEFU usage, greatly appreciate it. totally agree with your the comment about the drivers. Not sure if you can help me, I followed the instruction Hitag2 & BMW Explorer and everything went fine until I went into the car and read the key but all the 8 key slot came up with 000 etc. blank. then I read the .bek file but it gave me an error it can't write the last 3 blocks hence now its showing an error. Lucky my original key still works. the car I'm writing to is a BMW e63 2006. please help.

[@djbmw1]

Hi Daniel. You're very welcome! Which EF Scanner version do you have? The 2013 version is fairly limited in terms of the different CAS modules it can work with. The 2018 version, however, works on more modules/firmware versions. And to confirm, you purchased the 'full' version of ef scanner that allows for programming, not just reading, correct?

[@sono2003yahoo]

@@djbmw1 Thankyou for your useful info. I have the same issue as Daniel above with EF scanner 2018-12 version (Blue one). The shop only replied to me that they had no such claim like me so far and although they sold # of items. but according to your explanation, it imply that the 2018-12 version may not cover newer version of FW in CAS2. so I will try to downgrade FW to a certain level of the old version and try the key learning again to see if it can collect data. Maybe I can use the version the same as HW version.

[@MrClarck100]

Is it possible to download the software for the Hitag2 and the E/F Scanner, if so where?

[@djbmw1]

Yes.. But it should have already come with your hardware when you purchased them. The software is very specific to the model of tool you have as they are all cracked versions since these are clones

[@MrClarck100]

@@djbmw1 My Hitag2 came without the software, only the E/F Scanner has the software.

[@djbmw1]

@@MrClarck100 I just uploaded the RAR file to my MediaFire account www.mediafire.com/file/p9rxfph6x5xdilg/HITGA-2_V3.1.rar/file

[@MrClarck100]

Funny thing is that i got the software for the Hitag2, and i went to a computer store and got the cd onto a stick. When I unzipped the file it was a Trojan horse. So now I'm looking for the software for the EF Scanner. Now i don't know if the software is general or it is unit specific.

[@djbmw1]

@@MrClarck100 there's no trojans in the hitag upload that I provided you the link with. Thats the version that I use. In any event, your ef scanner has specific cracked software for the model you bought. Contact the vendor you purchased from if you need another copy as it has to be the correct match.

[@Dremonster0415]

I'm getting a transponder not empty error in hitag any idea on how to delete the transponder?

[@djbmw1]

That means the transponder has data on it... You can either solder in a new transponder.. Or purchase a PCF79xx Unlocker tool, or similar, to attempt wiping the data

[@Dremonster0415]

@@djbmw1 I got passed that part now when I go to the CAS module on bmw explorer and press key learning with ignition off. It loads for a few seconds and immediately stops and no key data displays. Any idea on why that might be. Thanks for your help.

[@djbmw1]

@@Dremonster0415 hitag is used on the physical key and ef scanner on the cas. Ef explorer cannot read key data from the key,.. Only data that exists on the cas. Regardless, do you get any errors when ef explorer crashes? What version of the cas firmware is it running? Is ef explorer asking you to update/downgrade the cas firmware?

[@Dremonster0415]

@@djbmw1 So now when I press key learning with the ignition off all of key data shows 0s. With no error codes any idea on why that may be?

[@farisnasser298]

Hi please help me .. For bmw x6 e71 2009 i can use same all tools in video to copy the key or i should buy another tools The tools is: HITAG2 V3.1 & E/F 2018.12 Alright ?

[@djbmw1]

If your CAS firmware has not been updated, then it should work. If your CAS firmware has been updated, however, you will need to install older firmware on the bench. If you're not already familiar with CAS and do not already have a bench setup... I would suggest just paying a locksmith to write a new key for $100.

[@farisnasser298]

@@djbmw1 how i can know if my firmware is updated or not .. there is a way to check the firmware ?

[@djbmw1]

@@farisnasser298 yes, you can use INPA

[@farisnasser298]

@@djbmw1 if i bought original used key from eBay and programming it same as the video .. the key will give me same all specifications like the original one ? I mean start/stop engine without plug the key / unlock/lock the doors by door handle and all this specifications will work ?

[@djbmw1]

@@farisnasser298 no. A used key needs to either have the transponder chip erased, or a blank transponder chip soldered onto the key's circuit board. You cannot program a used key without doing this first. To erase a transponder requires yet another tool. New blank keys are less than $20 on Aliexpress so I dont know why you would want a used one from ebay. If you have less than 3 keys to make then it will be in your best interest to get an independent locksmith to write nee keys for you.

[@rilwanuyahaya6930]

Please can you make a video of programming a mercedes benz key

[@mirosaw8754]

Can you add link for shop where you bought your items? I want to buy.

[@djbmw1]

They can all be found on Aliexpress from different sellers. Please note that im using the 'Full' version of EF Scanner that allows programming. Also ensure the virgin key fobs are the correct frequency for your car, and the correct transponder chip for HiTag

[@paddyladdd9395]

Where do u find out the frequency of your old keys to match with your new blank key

[@kristiyansavov703]

Hello I did everything and it worked but I cannot lock and unlock the car with the new key any ideas?

[@djbmw1]

If your transmitter is the same frequency, and actually transmitting (you can verify this with a Nooelec SDR) you might need to initialize/sync your key fob. There are several instructions online that you can try that involve a combination of closing the doors, put the car in ACC mode, out of ACC mode and remove key from slot... etc. Have you verified that the remote buttons on your original fob work, and are transmitting on the correct frequency? Do you have a second key that does work? If your second key isn't unlocking your car then your diversity antenna might be having issues, assuming the keys are transmitting.

[@kristiyansavov703]

@@djbmw1 no only the key that I have clone don’t unlock the car

[@kristiyansavov703]

Hi, another question when at the end with the key I choose keyless could this be the reason why the key can’t lock and unlock the car or could it be from the new key ?

[@pedrofelipe1224]

can I make a face-to-face key with the same tools?

[@djbmw1]

Im not familiar with the term 'face to face' for keys... But the Defu product listing pages tell you all the different key types it can copy, including the 'laser/wave/snake' cut on BMW keys just like in my other video

[@pedrofelipe1224]

@@djbmw1 sorry i'm using the translator and i didn't check, i'm talking about the presence keys

[@The_North0]

When I clicked key learning it’s prompted with update ecu as opposed to what’s shown in the video.

[@djbmw1]

That means your CAS was updated by a dealer at some point to a newer firmware version and, in order for ef scanner to gain access, it needs to flash older firmware. This should only ever be done on a bench, and not over obd as you could brick your cas.

[@The_North0]

@@djbmw1 I updated it. The last updated for my cas was 2006 with older version even though it is a 2010 car and I updated the cas to the newer version in 2018 version 9395656 from 6112233. With BMW explorer, it’s constantly asking to update the ECU when clicked “key learning” or “isn” but with the same software number that the car was already updated with and failed stating to unplug the explorer and let the car rest for up 5 minutes and try again. Do I really need a power stabilizer that’s stable at 14.1 v? Only once it actually prompted similar message that’s shown in the video but was when the car was running. At this point, Bmw explorer is basically INPA with NCS Expert as a package because I can code with Bmw explorer as well but I can’t do anything else other than what INPA or NCS EXPERT could offer as Bmw explorer.

[@djbmw1]

@@The_North0 EF Scanner would have likely worked if you had the original CAS firmware running. Since you updated it, EF Scanner is looking to downgrade it to a version that it can work with. Even though the 'version' numbers might be the same, EF scanner is manipulating the firmware to bypass the security. Its EXTREMELY risky to flash the CAS while it's still plugged into the vehicle as it's communicating with other systems/modules and could easily become bricked. You're playing with fire attempting it over OBD. This is why flashing the CAS should only ever be done on the bench. If you DO brick the CAS module, you'd have to restore the hex data in the CAS by using an R270 and soldering the leads to various points on the CAS circuit board. That's also assuming you've already made a backup of your CAS before bricking it. It seems as though 50% of the people in the comments have had success with EF Scanner and the other 50% run into the issue that you're experiencing, requiring the CAS to be downgraded in order to bypass the security.

[@The_North0]

​@@djbmw1 How do I work on this on the bench? Do i need to get CAS3 Test Platform with OBD plug to do this on bench with Bmw explorer? What tool do you suggest?

[@djbmw1]

@@The_North0 thats correct. The cheapest way is to visit a junk yard to pull parts from. Alternatively there are several companies that have already built and sell bench setups. Essentially they mimmic the electronic starting system - key module and harness, cas harness, dme and harness, obd2 connector and harness, etc. You'll also need a reliable voltage supply source.

[@paddyladdd9395]

Whats the green thing on the key when your in the car ?

[@djbmw1]

Painters tape - so that I know which key is which as I have over a dozen of those keys floating around.

[@paddyladdd9395]

​@djbmw1 thank you will this work for a bmw e60 2008 ? I was going to get the clone bmw explorer v2013 and dis u have to run all the programs in compatibility mode for Windows xp ?

[@djbmw1]

@@paddyladdd9395 it should work so long as your CAS firmware is original and hasnt been updated at the dealer. You can use INPA to check prior to buying EF Scanner. Also,.. the 2018 Full version is a better buy than the 2013 version.

[@paddyladdd9395]

@@djbmw1 did u run the software hitech and bmw explorer on Windows 8 And do I need the laptop to run to inpa to check that cas hasn't been updated amd plug it I to the car ?

[@djbmw1]

@@paddyladdd9395 to clarify, EF Scanner is a clone of BMW Explorer, but it is not identical. Both HiTag and EF Scanner have been installed on multiple systems (Win7, Win 10, and XP)... HiTag is the most troublesome to install and configure, regardless of which Windows version you're running. Yes, you'll need to run it in compatability mode. You dont NEED a laptop... but its easier than putting a full desktop computer in your car ;-)

[@destroyer6867]

Hello! Does it work for the e63? Thanks in advance 🙏

[@djbmw1]

No. The E36 uses EWS and now CAS .. so you'll need to purchase a VXSCAN BMW EWS-4.3 & 4.4 IC Adapter to read the EWS4 data and then a write the new key using an ak90+. All in you're under $100 in tools

[@destroyer6867]

@@djbmw1 not e36, I have an e63. A 6 series. I was wondering if it uses the same as the e60 🙆‍♂️

[@patrum90]

hi, could you please give me a link to your software? i bought such a scanner and i cannot read cas contents

[@djbmw1]

Hi Patrum. Did your ef scanner come with software on a CD? Your scanner firmware is specific to one of 9 cracked software bundles. Its possible that you purchased an ef scanner that was not the "full" version, and therefore can only read data, and not write data. Please send me the url link to the exact model you purchased.

[@patrum90]

@@djbmw1 530,03 zł | Najnowsza wersja V2018.12 skaner E/F II pełna wersja do diagnostyki BMW EF + IMMO + korekta przebiegu + kodowanie a.aliexpress.com/_ve22Wn IS the full version i think, i can read errors, make coding, but when im trying to get key learning my scanner cant read the cas2

[@djbmw1]

@@patrum90 thats the correct version. You cant access the CAS at all? Even to see the version? Or, are you able to access it but when you try to go to key learning it gives you a "Unknown version ECU"?

[@patrum90]

@@djbmw1 i can get the VIN number, i can lock/unlock Keys, make some coding, but when im trying to read cas with key learning option, im gettin only my VIN number and thats all, everyting is 000000

[@djbmw1]

@@patrum90 when you access the CAS, it will start to list all of the faults in the middle upper window. In the lower window it will list "Program, Date, Version..". Thats the CAS version and firmware flash date. Its likely that the car had a firmware update thats too recent for the EF scanner to read (it can read updates to early 2017 i believe), or the specific firmware flash on yours simply isnt recognized. If either of these are the case, downgrading your firmware would work. HOWEVER.. I personally wouldnt use the ef scanner to perform a cas downgrade as its very risky and, if it fails, your cas would then be bricked (you wouldnt be able to start the car) and you'd have to invest in more tools to be able to reflash your entire CAS module.

[@salihgenc3885]

hello I have an impossible problem downgrade modul case I do not have a usb decoder

[@djbmw1]

I dont understand your question. Downgrading the CAS should only be done in the bench, and not over OBD

[@salihgenc3885]

@@djbmw1 impossible downgrade cas 3 modul with Ef scanner full error

[@djbmw1]

@@salihgenc3885 and you attempted this downgrade on a bench, not in the car? I can see how a downgrade in the car could be problematic with all of the other modules, but there shouldnt be an issue if you downgrade on the bench (but this also means you need parts from a junk yard). What was the error that it gave you?

[@salihgenc3885]

@djbmw1 unplug the car 5 min and try again

[@salihgenc3885]

@djbmw1 is it possible that its not working because I do not have a usb decoder?

[@jakkowekema]

where can i get bmw explorer?

[@djbmw1]

The official tool can be purchased directly from their website, just Google BMW Explorer. What im using in the video is a clone, however.

[@BoyBoyBoyBoy-zc2nx]

Hello where did you download the software please and thanks

[@djbmw1]

Hi. It was included in the purchase of E/F Scanner Full from Aliexpress

[@BoyBoyBoyBoy-zc2nx]

@@djbmw1 thanks for the response I got my off Alibaba didn’t com with one mines is software 2013.07 by any chance I can get the software your using

[@BoyBoyBoyBoy-zc2nx]

@@djbmw1 trying to write isn to the cas but it giving me and error message could it but the software is not downloaded write been at this for a while now thanks again

[@djbmw1]

@@BoyBoyBoyBoy-zc2nx what hardware are you trying to program with?

[@BoyBoyBoyBoy-zc2nx]

@@djbmw1 any idea thanks again

[@mb0782]

Sent link whare to buy the devices please 😁😁

[@user-bg9rc1sx1s]

Aliexpress. Just type in search E/F scanner. They changing links pretty often. I paid $139 for mine

[@fair09]

So... I can't clone a key without Bmw explorer? (just hitag 3.1)

[@djbmw1]

Each key has a unique transponder ID. "Cloning" (with hitag) an existing key does not replace the key ID... it just copies the rolling code sequences. You still, therefore, need to program your "copied" key into the cars CAS (which hitag cannot do). EF Scanner (which is a clone of BMW Explorer) is just one of many tools that can write data to your CAS module. I personally found it to be the cheapest... but its also a chinese clone and doesnt have support, nor does it always work. But... it was less than $200... where other tools by Xprog and others are over a grand.

[@fair09]

@@djbmw1 Aliexpress ads are so missleading.... they say hitag can auto-programm a key with just a press of a button...

[@fair09]

@@djbmw1 but what happens if i don't want to replace the key ID...?

[@fair09]

@@djbmw1 can i still use that key?

[@djbmw1]

@@fair09 the transponder ID is embeded into each transponder chip, it cannot be changed. Think of the key as a new phone with a new phone number (that cannot be changed). The phone is able to call numbers but without any contacts or numbers saved its considered "virgin". Cloning your key is like copying your phone directory from one cell pone to another. So now your new phone can "call home"... but your CAS in the car (home) is like someone with caller ID and it will refuse calls unless the callers number is saved in its safe list. Cloning a key just transfered the contact list but did not tell "home" to save its number in its safe list (programming the CAS)

[@Tibay19742]

hello, hitag where do you save this file? (.bek)

[@djbmw1]

Anywhere onto your laptop so that you can access it when using EF Scanner in the car

[@fresherro]

Did the remote buttons work?

[@djbmw1]

Yes, all buttons work... But i havent been able to get the comfort access to work. The key fob needs to be inserted into the receiver to start the car and touching the handle doesnt lock/unlock the car. Im ok with that, however.

[@fresherro]

@@djbmw1 Before you program the remote did you write a page or pages on the new fob.I might be missing that part that's why my remote buttons are not working

[@djbmw1]

@@fresherro after programming it you need to initialize/sync your key fob. There are several instructions online that you can try that involve a combination of closing the doors, put the car in ACC mode, out of ACC mode and remove key from slot... Etc etc.

[@fresherro]

@@djbmw1 I did insert the remote then acc,removed it then pressed lock/unlock 3 times.I also did elv sync but no success

[@djbmw1]

@@fresherro if you have INPA you should be able to see if the key is correctly activated in your CAS

[@mircea-alexandruluncan8566]

Can't you just copy that exact key instead of the car learning a new key?

[@djbmw1]

No. The PCF transponder chip thats soldered onto each board has a unique ID. This key ID needs to be saved into the CAS. Now... if you wanted to gain access to a car with a laptop then you could immitate an existing transponder chip ID... but thats not what my video is about.

[@flippy9133]

the ef scanner thing cost like 3 times much now :/

[@djbmw1]

Its $187 Canadian from the seller 'EcuCar' right now. m.aliexpress.com/item/1005002616079277.html

[@markzuege8641]

If anyone here would like to purchase the equipment in the video, I have them available I'm done with my application and would be happy to pass on gear at face value. I have the Explorer clone tool, Hitag 2 and 3x 315mhz CAS virgin key fobs with blank key.

[@Panama714]

I'm interested, but unclear how to contact you.

[@Sp0rTeX]

Doesnt work on CAS3 and CAS3+

[@djbmw1]

This video shows it working on CAS3. When EF scanner reads the CAS you can see that its version number 6943814, which IS CAS3

[@Sp0rTeX]

@@djbmw1 On all ca cas3 that I tried, it does not show me the keys, and does not allow me to generate a new one. There is no problem in cas2!

[@waldemarfechtel1644]

WE See its 2013 Version And Not 2018.12

[@djbmw1]

I own both versions (blue and orange). In the video im using the orange 2013 one, yes.the blue 2018 one covers more though

[@waldemarfechtel1644]

@@djbmw1 THX

[@Maks1mus777]

Не интересно смотреть видео, где все закрыто👎

[@djbmw1]

Im not sure if i translated your comment correctly but the only blurred information in the video is data on my specific car. If you follow along using the same tools, you will see your own vehicle data coming up on the screen (key id, password, etc.). At the end of the day, if you dont want to experiment and learn how the CAS system works,.. Then just buy a key from the dealer.

[@YC-yw3tj]

Everything you use are clone, yet you seems dislike Chinese clone. Why not go to BMW to buy your none clone stuff? Unfortunately, even the BMW keys were made in China.

[@djbmw1]

Thank you for your comment. The tools that I'm using are clones of other clones of non-licensed tools (the levels of corruption and IP infringement is quite vast!). The difference between ANY non-licensed programming tool and what BMW does is that the aftermarket tools add 'random hex data' to the CAS in order to bypass BMW's security/encryption. Doing this, of course, comes with risk. My comments regarding the drivers were simply that these tools DO work, they just take a bit of time to set up ahead of time. I don't believe I ever once said that I dislike the tools that I've used - after all, I have made duplicate keys and posted a video for all to see :-). As for BMW using Chinese made stuff - their software is made in Germany (and is, in fact, all in German). The OEM keys themselves are made by Siemens (a German company) - though many of the internal components are indeed made in China. The aftermarket keys shown in the video are of the same quality (30% Glass Fiber Reinforced Polyamide 12 (PA12-GF30) for the shell with silicone water ingress protection) and the internal components are of good quality.... but again, I never once said I was dissatisfied with the tools in the video. Regarding 'going to BMW to buy non clone stuff" - what do you mean? You cannot purchase key programming tools from BMW - period. You also cannot purchase blank FOBs from them. So,.. if you want to make YOUR OWN keys... you need to purchase aftermarket tools.

[@mikealkarout9555]

Excellent vid but fyi that car is not a keyless go key. Only E60/E90 with comfort access are keyless go.

[@djbmw1]

Hi Mike - Thanks for watching the video. That car is an e60 530xi so yes, it has Comfort Access (can lock/unlock the door by touching the handle and start the car with the key in the pocket). The virgin key that I programmed is a CA key, but it needs to be 'synced' after being programmed - and I didnt do that in the video

[@mikealkarout9555]

@@djbmw1 Must be a highly optioned car because I have never seen a E60 where it has the key slot in the steering column that had comfort access/keyless go .

[@djbmw1]

@@mikealkarout9555 CA was offered as an option on E60's from September 2005 onward, as Option 322. I work on BMW's and, from the couple hundred that have passed through my shop here in Ontario Canada, over half of them have Comfort Access. I suppose, if you're spending a good chunk of change buying a new car.. what's another couple of grand for a few cool options. Here's some literature for the UK release back in the day: www.meeknet.co.uk/E64/Comfort%20Access.pdf